Hello,
Which one has longer battery life? From what I read, Chronos Froyo has longer battery life and also it's more responsive? Why is that?
Can CM6 use the same code as Chronos Froyo for speed and bat life?
I think it depends on overclocking.
malakipaa said:
Hello,
Which one has longer battery life? From what I read, Chronos Froyo has longer battery life and also it's more responsive? Why is that?
Can CM6 use the same code as Chronos Froyo for speed and bat life?
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I use HO!NO ROM for the CM6 and this weekend i realized that i was 22h without recharge it and was with 80% Battery. No profile set.. no Set CPU... Mobile Data 100% ON!!
I simply can´t understand, why every one has different battery life on same ROM. I know it depends on usage etc. but I´ve heard that HO!NO has huge battery drain
Battery performance is based on how one sets up his phone, overclocking, wifi / 3g usage, media usage etc. But on the same setup , cronos wins.
Ye, why Chronos is better? Isn't base on CM6 too? Or it has it's own modified kernel that's why it's better? Is bat life base on Kernel?
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Battery performance is based on how one sets up his phone, overclocking, wifi / 3g usage, media usage etc. But on the same setup , cronos wins.
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This is based on what exact versions being compared?
I have now tried Cronos for the sake of everyone prasing battery life. I compared every ROM over at least 3 days use and i can say there are no big ddifferences as far as battery life goes between CM 22.11. Froyo 2.0.1 or Cronos 1.6 update1. There is some fluctuation, but nothing too aperent.
Older versions had quite some battery problems, that holds for all ROMs, but now only abaut 20-30% less battery for me on these Froyo ROMs, than on eclair ROMs i had before. For first Froyo ROMs it was like 50% less...
Well, the CM6 on the actual build (0.04) is imho far the best concernig battery-life.
Just a little less good than on SHOLS_U2_36.0 by G.O.T.
Before it was probably Cronos, but nowadays the difference is down to the voltage selected. On Cronos this is lower, so out of the box it should take up less power. However, clock for clock it should essentially the same. The rapid releases of CM6 takes the cake for me
I tried both Cronos 1.6.1 and CM6 25/11, I noticed no great difference.. just a feeling, Cronos runs more smooth at same clock, but they are almost the same!
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In my personal experience, Cronos 1.6.1 is currently the best ROM both in terms of battery life and responsivity/relayability. With everything enabled (3G, wireless location service, gmail sync) , is the only ROM that can give me 18 hours plus of battery.
Lollipop_Lawlipop said:
Before it was probably Cronos, but nowadays the difference is down to the voltage selected. On Cronos this is lower, so out of the box it should take up less power. However, clock for clock it should essentially the same. The rapid releases of CM6 takes the cake for me
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Exactly. I believe both hit battery life with the same tweaks. Then it comes down to the voltage and clock speeds. CM6 should last plenty long too.
Pretty much identical battery life. I use my phone quite heavily so never get more then about 16-18hours. Maybe in long haul there is a difference but not with a well used device.
Well, the CM6 on the actual build (0.04) is imho far the best concernig battery-life.
Just a little less good than on SHOLS_U2_36.0 by G.O.T.
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this. although i haven't updated yet to the latest CM6. my phone once lasts from 2.5-3 days, with minimal mp3 listening and harcore wifi usage.
before the upgrade to cronos 1.6.1 (best froyo to customize) i was using telusV5...
eclair could last even 50 hours without recharge.
froyo is 25 hours at its best.
i use H data always on, gps on, latitude, whatsapp, wireless almost never, i make lots of calls, i read news, play games like angry birds or asphalt5 few minutes.
i tried every combo of mhz and vsel from 1100 74, to 700 46...no significant difference, battery lasts always 24-26 hours.
I use c.m. roms,from about the 10th of november or something,c.m. roms last about twice as much as my stock eclair did,i'm sorry to say that,but if nadlabak didnt exist,cronos wouldnt exist,feeyo is waiting each time for nadlabak to solve each problem and then he will release his own rom.
Whenever nadlabak doesnt publish his work,cronos is stuck...
Nice guy maybe feeyo,but not milestone expert...
I prefer the original thing,wich is more superior in my opinion...
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I use c.m. roms,from about the 10th of november or something,c.m. roms last about twice as much as my stock eclair did,i'm sorry to say that,but if nadlabak didnt exist,cronos wouldnt exist,feeyo is waiting each time for nadlabak to solve each problem and then he will release his own rom.
Whenever nadlabak doesnt publish his work,cronos is stuck...
Nice guy maybe feeyo,but not milestone expert...
I prefer the original thing,wich is more superior in my opinion...
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Right but are you comparing it against a tweaked Froyo?
I used STOCK Telus 2.1 back in the day with the Overclock mod at 1000mhz/60vsel.
I used to push email from 8am to 6pm everyday at work. I had terrible reception at work so I would use 2G a lot during the day, but I would always have 30% AT LEAST by bedtime. I go to work at 8:30am and sleep around 12am.
Now I work at a different place, but I got into work at 11am today and left at 6pm. I took a break in the middle to get lunch, but since I work underground, I turn on airplane mode the whole time. It's now midnight (13 hrs since unplugging) and I'm at 40%. I'd say that if I had 50% of my time on airplane mode that's pretty bad. Other than that the other 6 hrs that I was out int he open I got decent reception. I just pushed gmail, sycned Facebook/Twitter hourly and weather every 3 hrs. Not too bad in terms of heavy use. Also I have the 2G toggle on. I just don't see how I'm draining battery this fast.
So in my case Eclair completely dominates. With HONO or TelusLite mod I probably got a little better battery life throughout the day. I dunno. I only had 1 month of work or so during the summer of using those ROMs before I quit and I stopped pushing exchange mail all day long.
You forget something battery gets worse over time. I had very good batery life on Eclair. Now i use Froyo for quite some while at begining veery bad battery life. Now latest releases quite better, but still not there so i went to try Eclair again for a bit and i found out even eclair doesnt have the battery life for me it used to have, battery is just old and its only half a year since i bought. But take this i charge it everydays ometimes more so in half a year a charged it around 200 times. 300times is the number i think battery gets quite worse.
Maybe one of you battery hawks can help me figure out what the major problem I'm having is.
I see people saying they get 24+ hours on a single charge, yet I have a difficult time maintaining 12 hours with minimal usage.
My provider (Bell Canada) does not have a 2G network I can fall back on, so that's one thing that could be causing major drain.
I am using SuperPower (but haven't noticed any major difference there), SetCPU to set processor to 250 when screen is on, 15sec before screen off, wifi off, GPS off, background data off when screen is off, auto-sync off, and data scheduled to be on for 5 minutes every hour.
I use my phone when I commute to check emails, play Angry Birds, and the like, and generally overclock to 700 or 800 Mhz, with 48 or 50 vsel depending.
Using my phone to play a game, check email, or surf the web for 10 minutes can cause it to drop 10-20%, and even when it's totally turned off overnight, if it's not plugged in it can drop to 20% or lower from a full charge just sitting on my end table.
Any suggestions/ideas?
EDIT: I wanted to add that I tend to use the most up to date CM mod, but have been trying Cronos since the battery life was touted so highly. Unfortunately, I find that Cronos drains the battery slightly faster than the 11.25 mod did. Testing the 11.29 version of CM6 currently.
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I don't know why I'm missing out on all the luck you guys are having. My android is always slow either from the beginning, or after 1 week of use, and my battery is terrible.
I've had Myn's Donut for months, and I've tried Eclair and Froyo. They all eventually get dead slow on my phone, and if I remember correctly, they've all left me with a dead battery in around 12 hours. I've gone through two batteries so far today.
I have 4 spare crappy batteries my wife and I share, in addition to the 2 stock ones, charged via wall plug and with a battery charger.
I'm running on NAND, and I've tried a few different .nbh files, not much difference. I'm running a few apps, including SuperDial, HandCent SMS, JuiceDefender battery saver, TasKiller or ATK, Maps, HarassMe, RealCalc, Zedge... but even when I do a relatively clean install, it slows down.
Questions:
-need I do anything else other than copy the appropriate NHB file to the RUU folder, rename it and flash, then install the androidinstall file?
-What's the zImage file for?
-what Rom is known for being the fastest and have the best battery life?
-Are any apps that I listed above major battery or speed thieves?
-does overclocking help?
-What are the best data/gps settings?
Any help is greatly appreciated. This community has always been awesome.
I'm probably getting around 12 hours with light/moderate use too. Since I never tried WM6.x on my Vogue (friend gave it to me), I don't know how long it's suppose to last for although I'll be suprised if it's significantly more than 12 hours.
As for slowness, I not sure if my froyo gets progressively slower since I've conditioned myself to click on icon and wait for at least 4 seconds before continuing when launching new apps, lol. Way slower than my buddy's new Acer Liquid but then I always remind him that I'm running froyo and he's still only on 2.1 .
The thing that drains the battery with these devices is bad signal strength. Try keeping data disconnected and definitely don't have background data enabled.
Okay, looks like manual email sync is the way to go then.
data disabled I can get 24-36 hours.
Bad signal, no signal I'm lucky to get 6 hours.
I find battery life a little lacking Froyo compared to warm donut especially when I stream. I also find that it really slows down when I start multitasking, it's much worse then in warm donut. It did take warm donut some time to get the bugs worked out and I'm sure Froyo will be the same.
Froyo is so close to getting me to Craigslist my 3GS. I'm starting to bring my Froyo Vogue to work, hiking on walks and going out on the town. The 3GS is spending more and more time sitting on the desk. I'm now constantly looking for a good price on a no contract CDMA Android phone.
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data disabled I can get 24-36 hours.
Bad signal, no signal I'm lucky to get 6 hours.
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That explains it... I've been working in a basement mechanical room. no wonder it's been dead so fast.
*clicks Disable*
dzo said:
The thing that drains the battery with these devices is bad signal strength. Try keeping data disconnected and definitely don't have background data enabled.
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bit of a NOOB question- does data interfere with GPS?
generally under normal to medium heavy use i can easily get 18 hours. heavy use is 9-12 at this point.
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bit of a NOOB question- does data interfere with GPS?
generally under normal to medium heavy use i can easily get 18 hours. heavy use is 9-12 at this point.
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answered my own question- GPS NEEDS data to function
Here's another noob question. I have myn's warm donut, how do you turn off data? theres a data button on the power control widget right beside turning off the phone but when i hit data it doesn't do anything.
One thing I did before trying FroYo: Installed stock rom on the device and I let the battery load all night.
On stock battery I could get aroune a day. Lately I've received a new battery from eBay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320394360706&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
So far, it can hold 2 days, wich is pretty descent! I might try to laod it with StockRom to see if it changes anything!
Also, when you flash, make sure the battery is loaded to the max!
Hey guys,
Since changing firmwares and kernels etc; my battery has been going flat even quicker then at stock. I can understand this seeing as I have my device overclocked to 1.2GHz; but the thing is that it's draining WHILE THE DEVICES IS NOT IN USE. EG. While it's sitting idle with the screen off.
Now, I do have facebook/twitter/weather/news set up to refresh, but only every hour and on Twitter ever 3 hrs, so I don't think this is the case. I also have a profile set up on SetCPU which when the screen turns off, it sets the CPU to Min: 100MHz & Max 100MHz.
On the Battery usage screen it looks as if the screen is using up ~70% of the battery.
Here's my setup:
Samsung Galaxy S GT-I9000
I9000XWJM8
SamSet 1.9f
1.2Ghz OC /w Voodoo 4 & BLN
Hey
I had the same issue with my SGS. My setup was stock JF3 plus voodoo lagfix 3.0. Phone was fast but battery drained very quickly, and didn't stop when it was on standby. I suspected the custom kernel that was included in the voodoo lagfix.
I have since flashed JM8 to my phone and used the lagfix found on xda under
[Voodoo Lagfix] : Play Voodoo with STOCK ECLAIR kernels! - FINAL
which is like voodoo lagfix but with JM8 kernel instead. I'm now enjoying a fast SGS with very good battery life.
Cheers
Thanks for the reply.
It could quite possibly be SamSet 1.9f doing the draining; but I'm not sure.
I don't think I could go back to stock after using SamSet anyway; that thing is just incredible
I might have to give it a try. Although I still stand by voodoo giving you the battery issues.
They say it was Version 3 of Voodoo which was giving the battery problems - wait, that was the OC kernel wasn't it?
Not sure; it should be fairly noticeable to everyone when the screen off function is not putting the phone in stand-by mode!
When I had the issues I used Voodoo lagfix 3.0 which is a part of Voodoo beta 4. They said there were battery issues in Voodoo beta 3 (this contained Voodoo lagfix 2.1). I have read a lot of reports of people winding back to Voodoo beta 2 and not having battery issues.
I think all the Voodoo versions have all used OC kernel.
JM8 and voodoo combined cause battery drain. Use other lag fix or firmware...
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Yeah, I noticed a significant increase in battery drain after installing JM8 + Tayutama's 1.1 ROM w/ Voodoo.
Although I really like the increased speed and Tayutama's add ons, the battery drains almost twice as fast compared to the average during my previous month using the phone with stock I9000DTJG4 firmware, which to me is pretty awful.
there is a very big difference in battery life time. my setup us also JM8+Voodoo4.. I charge my foon every night. and when i'am eating dinner the battery is bleeping.. and there is actualy no active use..
I like the combination of JM8+voodoo.. it really feels great.. so what can we do..?
Well, I use JM8 with RyanZa 2.3 Lagfix and I don't have any problem with battery life.
Using mails (push), Games and MP3 about 2 or 3 hours per day, and battery is at 60% at the and of the day.
Not bad isn't it ?
Same problem here , i have JM8 with Tayutama & Voodoo lagfix , my battery drains like hell ^^
hmmm i noticed yall talked about a fast battery drain using the voodoo lagfix
could it by any way be the latest 1 (V4 beta) ? coz on the website and i quote
" Bugfixes :
The battery life issue introduced in beta3 is resolved. CPU was locked at 1GHz, which some people saw as a feature (snappier Phone!) but in reality this was a bug, sorry guys "
so V4 beta should be a fix and not suck up much battery like V3 beta
as for myself my phone was a First Gen i9000 international version and ever since i got my phone it never lasted a full day of use....
except for when i changed 3g to 2g , disabled the internet apn , disabled the auto sync , pretty much disabled everything and went very low on the screen light and yet ended @ 10-11 pm with 2% battery life with a max talktime of an hour thruout the day and screen was off almost all of the time except when viewing sms's , yes it lasted a full day to me but i sure hate using my phone that way, pretty useless T_T
mazroui said:
hmmm i noticed yall talked about a fast battery drain using the voodoo lagfix
could it by any way be the latest 1 (V4 beta) ? coz on the website and i quote
" Bugfixes :
The battery life issue introduced in beta3 is resolved. CPU was locked at 1GHz, which some people saw as a feature (snappier Phone!) but in reality this was a bug, sorry guys "
so V4 beta should be a fix and not suck up much battery like V3 beta
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Thanks for the suggestion, but Tayutama's 1.1 ROM is supposed to include beta 4.
I've got the international version as well and usually got 2, sometimes 3 full days usage with the stock firmware (with about 2 hours of browsing, 2-3 SMS's, 1-2 phone calls and 1 hr of music a day). I did my best to maximise battery life by switching my background wallpaper to be mostly black, and the phone set to minimum brightness
Ordinarily I'd be down to about 60-65% battery life after a day of usage. Using JM8 and Tayutama's ROM I'm down to 22% after 1 day...
It's really weird. Just a day or two ago, I reported having battery issues with the combination of JM8 + Tayutama + Voodoo b3 lagfix only.
Today, I unplugged my phone in the morning (approx 08:30) after an overnight charge, rebooted it just in case, and have been using it quite heavily. Lots of 3G data and Wi-Fi (I hear Wi-Fi is a culprit in some cases), a few phone calls, SMS, and music. I have brightness set to low, and black backgrounds where possible.
It's now been more than 12 hours of operation, and not once have I had the rapid battery drain and excess heat that I had complained about. Or wakelocks, now that I think about it. Remaining charge is roughly a third. I actually don't mind; I'm of the belief that smartphones need a daily charge anyway.
But the heat problem. It didn't happen today. I don't know why. In fact, I don't even know what caused it. I'm glad it didn't happen, and hope it doesn't again, but it's just very very weird. :?
With JM8 (Tayutama Edition v1.1) voodoo + OC my battery draining very very quik.
I have applied update.zip "[Voodoo Lagfix] : Play Voodoo with STOCK ECLAIR kernels!" and now batery life is very good.
P.S. = to applay update from Tayutama voodoo to STOCK kernel + voodoo LagFix i don't disable lag fix before or other ... just update kernel over it ... of course i lose OC but now my SGS work like a charm and batery life is very very good
I just flashed back to stock from Voodoo 3.0. If you go to the dedicated Voodoo thread, you'll have people complaining about the battery life while others try to dispel the rumor that Voodoo is the cause. I fully believe it's Voodoo. Since flashing back, I have the exact same setup I had before {done from scratch} while using OCLF instead. Battery is fine now.
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as for myself my phone was a First Gen i9000 international version and ever since i got my phone it never lasted a full day of use....
except for when i changed 3g to 2g , disabled the internet apn , disabled the auto sync , pretty much disabled everything and went very low on the screen light and yet ended @ 10-11 pm with 2% battery life with a max talktime of an hour thruout the day and screen was off almost all of the time except when viewing sms's , yes it lasted a full day to me but i sure hate using my phone that way, pretty useless T_T
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man this is almost the same behavior i have with my phone. It can last one day (around 25-26 hours) only when i disable everything, put the brightness to the lowest level and pay attention to the apps running in background, this with low/moderate usage (2-3 hours display on, few calls or sms). My phone drains battery as hell.
I guess there is some Calibration Problem when you are flashing a new firmware. Try to flash a new firmware with full battery.
Just went and disabled my current Voodoo b3 and installed the Stock Kernel Voodoo... (Checking each way with a Quadrant bench.)
My battery suddenly went from 26% (curio's Voodoo) to 65% (stock Voodoo). wtf. :s
I totally need to refresh battery stats...
I've noticed a couple of times that my battery is around 40% and I restart my phone and it jumps to 75% w/c I find strange, also 100 to 70% seems to to drop so fast and it stabilizes at ~60%
Simple Poll.
Have you seen a decrease or increase?
Someone can explain this battery drain?
in a lot of roms based on 2.2.1 there is a big battery drain, in some other there isn't.
nagash91 said:
Someone can explain this battery drain?
in a lot of roms based on 2.2.1 there is a big battery drain, in some other there isn't.
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Reboot after unplugging from USB and battery drain is gone. For further improvement install SetCPU and reduce min/max frequency. I am getting more or less the same lifetime as with donut ROMs.
AndDiSa said:
Reboot after unplugging from USB and battery drain is gone. For further improvement install SetCPU and reduce min/max frequency. I am getting more or less the same lifetime as with donut ROMs.
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OK I have done.. but the problem is that when I use it 3 o 4 minutes (for example I install an application using a file explorer, then I read a message and then I come back to home) m battery get 5% lower...
In standby I lose 10% in 6 - 7 hours (I think this is normal).
AndDiSa said:
Reboot after unplugging from USB and battery drain is gone. For further improvement install SetCPU and reduce min/max frequency. I am getting more or less the same lifetime as with donut ROMs.
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I am currently without a computer therefore immune to this USB bug. I flashed CM6.1 to this and the other g1 and both suffered substaintial amounts of battery drain so I nandroid restored back to CSDIv4 and still the lowest frequencies and settings did little to combat the descending digits. So I tried this...
Recalibrated my battery
Flashed SuperWipe.zip
Reboot
Flashed SparksMod's latest
Reboot
Wiped battery stats
Unplugged...reboot
Battery lasted 23 hours the first day never seen anything like it.
Lifes great.
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I'm using TMUS-G1-Froyo CM6 remix..
and I'm using the new radio with +14mb.
The rom flies but the battery go down too fast.
I'm using setCPU with 256 - 528 mhz while screen is on, 122 - 256 mhz while screen off.
If I go to battery use in settings I see
Cell standby 45%
display 28%
phone idle 22%
android system 3%
I don't think is normal... cell standby is the battery use by cell radio..
I wonder if the new radio give a big battery drain..
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I'm using TMUS-G1-Froyo CM6 remix..
and I'm using the new radio with +14mb.
The rom flies but the battery go down too fast.
I'm using setCPU with 256 - 528 mhz while screen is on, 122 - 256 mhz while screen off.
If I go to battery use in settings I see
Cell standby 45%
display 28%
phone idle 22%
android system 3%
I don't think is normal... cell standby is the battery use by cell radio..
I wonder if the new radio give a big battery drain..
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I got real excited when I heard about the new radio and hboot even thought that its exclusion was the source of the the battery issues. Haven't been able to try it as I'm without a up-to-date PC at the moment.
It would be real nice if I could find a seasoned dev who understands battery consumption. I thought the kernal was the main culprit but I've tried two different roms with the same kernal and one has notably better battery life than the other. So confusing.
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I can't use my phone with this battery drain...
I will come back to official android OTA-AOSP 1.6.. with +14mb.
So I'll test if this kernel with 14mb is a cause of battery drain.
PS: I'm not a lover of rom customizations.. I think the official roms are the best.
The other are all too heavy. I'm not a fan of cm kernel, that is too heavy for g1.
I would see an official OTA 2.2 without customizations, so every one could customize as he want, and if he want.
PS: OK I flashed AOSP 1.6 using ezBiff_kernel to have 15mb (cause I have new radio and spl, so I can flash roms only using this kernel).
Result: my battery life is similar to froyo 2.2 roms... so the problem is:
1) Kernel? (ezBiff_kernel is based on cyanomod kernel... ... ... heavy as death)
2) New radio/spl?
3) My battery (I don't think so.. it's new battery. I buy it 2 weeks ago and in the beginning it works so well.. but then I flashed new radio/spl and new kernel for 15mb..)
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1) Kernel? (ezBiff_kernel is based on cyanomod kernel... ... ... heavy as death)
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Come now.. the cm pershoot kernels are super optimized so they don't collapse under the heavy as death rom that is usually on top of it..
I get mixed results with that kernel between testing and feedback.
A test phone can idle on wifi+2g for days on the stock g1 battery even after a usb unplug.. but on more common use with syncing services its not performing as well as I'd like..
Some of it is fixed with less swap/compcache or changing clock speeds 122/480 for most the speed but lower voltage levels. Also the interactive governor may work better.. I'm testing these ideas if results are good my next kernels defaults will use them.
Cm/pershoot have some interesting new power management code from other htc devices.. So hopefully soon all will be better. (I merged most of it to my kernel but there are some loose ends.. works well untill the phone locks up.. so no public release yet)
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Come now.. the cm pershoot kernels are super optimized so they don't collapse under the heavy as death rom that is usually on top of it..
I get mixed results with that kernel between testing and feedback.
A test phone can idle on wifi+2g for days on the stock g1 battery even after a usb unplug.. but on more common use with syncing services its not performing as well as I'd like..
Some of it is fixed with less swap/compcache or changing clock speeds 122/480 for most the speed but lower voltage levels. Also the interactive governor may work better.. I'm testing these ideas if results are good my next kernels defaults will use them.
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Ok sorry I talk without knowledge. I really don't know the effect of the cm kernel. I only know that all roms based on cm release, with cm kernel, are so heavy and slow.
I like your rom (2.2.1 AOSP) and I love your new way to get 14mb.
But I have this orrible problem. My phone has a lot of battery drain when I use it. With screen off, no problems.
I have never used swap or compcache in this days, and I also try different clock speeds (not over 528mhz).
The result is that when I unlock my phone, I go to settings, I see for example 95% battery. Ok, I return to home, I open a message, I return to home, I open contacts and I scroll some contacts without make calls.
Then I come back to battery settings and I see that is 92-93%..
in 2 minutes of soft use.. I think this is impossible. If I open stupids 2D games... ahah in 5-10 minutes my battery lose 10 - 20%.
I remember 1 year ago, with 1.6 (no cyanomod) my battery was good.
Now it isn't (I have a new battery).
Today I flashed aosp 1.6 with your kernel for 14mb (I have new radio&spl) but nothing... I lose a lot of battery percent as in froyo.
So I think problem is or battery calibration, or something to wipe, or cm kernel, or new radio&spl + your new kernel...
Now I'm recalibrating battery (is at 1% from 2 hours, I'm not using it.. ) then I will recharge for 8 - 9 hours and then wipe battery state, but I have done this process a lot of time without a benefit.
I'll try to remove the new radio+spl (so also using standard kernel) if my battery continue to lose percents so fast.
I'll keep you update on my "story".
PS: Sorry for my bad english!! XD
OK.. after a day of low discharging and a night of 8 hour of recharging, I wiped battery states, I wiped data-cache-ext ecc... I flashed aosp 1.6 and ezbiff kernel..
"battery drain" continue...
I will try tomorrow to reflash death-spl and old radio..
BTW, is normal for hours battery 4v at 90%?
On the back of the battery sais 3.7v... I thought 3.7 was the voltage for 100%
Update
I know this thread is a little old, but I ran into this problem as well. What I found was that the official US radio (2.22.23.02) used considerably more battery than the international one (2.22.19.26i). The other thing I noticed is that switching to "use 2G networks only" in mobile networks settings and disabling data over mobile drastically improved battery life.
I also noticed that wifi used a fair bit of juice so my recommendation is to disable wifi if you're going to be on the go for a bit, and disable data/3g if you're just going to be hanging out in the local webcafe, your/a friend's house, or some other location with wifi access for a while.
If you wanted to be ambitious and cared enough you could write a script to use as a shortcut on the home screen to do the swap automatically (detect which setting(s) are enabled and swap them to the opposite).
With those changes, you should get much better battery life. My thoughts on different Froyo flavors is that possibly different builds have different settings by default. Cyanogen comes with data and 3g enabled by default so this will quickly suck out your battery if you're running your 3g, 2g and wifi antennas all at once.
The stock build (1.6) got about the same battery life as I'm getting now with those settings applied. With either build, having all antennas on all the time will drain your battery very rapidly. Being a little more cognizant of the settings (perhaps you also had it set to 2g only on the stock build) you're using will significantly improve your battery life. And when I say significantly, I mean night and day (but the antenna version definitely does also make a difference... at least in my case).
I have not yet updated my Captivate to 2.2. Reading posts in regard to the update I am very bothered by a common complaint that battery life has just died. My Captivate has excellent battery life using it fairly heavily over a 1 day period. I charge it every nite. Also, my GPS is workng fine in 2.1. So am considering not updating it due to the problems I am hearing about.
Anyone else have input on battery life after the update??
I went from STOCK 2.1 to Cognition 4.1 (built on Froyo 2.2) and my battery life is about the same. My usage varies wildly from day to day, but as best as I can tell, overall battery consumption is about equal.
I wonder if the people complaining about battery life have set up their phone "post-update" with different apps or turned on "apps syncing background data"...
Battery life did reduce on 2.2 but it is obvious in my point of view. But its not too bad either.
it's about the same, i upgraded to stock 2.2, feel no difference on the battery life. moderate usage last mine for about more than 24 hrs, u should update to froyo for you to experience it.
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SnackCracker said:
I went from STOCK 2.1 to Cognition 4.1 (built on Froyo 2.2) and my battery life is about the same. My usage varies wildly from day to day, but as best as I can tell, overall battery consumption is about equal.
I wonder if the people complaining about battery life have set up their phone "post-update" with different apps or turned on "apps syncing background data"...
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I upgraded Stock 2.2 end of Feb and noticed a big drop in my battery life the first week. But just reading above, i did turn on "apps syncing background data" so i think that's my problem. Just turned that off so we shall see...
Let your phone go through a week or so recharging cycle before judging its battery life after a ROM flashing. You just lost all your battery stats when flash a new ROM. Your phone/OS has no clue how your battery will operate until it has time to learn or you manually calibrate it.
For what it is worth, my battery life is about the same or slightly better than leaked 2.2 ROM as well as 2.1 ROM. No big changes.
My battery has been about the same since the 2.2 upgrade. At first it felt like my battery was draining quicker but I also noticed I was playing with more phone more. The screen is the biggest power drain on the phone so just playing with menus and looking at new settings can cause a small dent.
Give it a week or two after upgrading and you'll notice it'll be about the same. Unless of course you have more accounts or programs syncing data in the background.
Why upgrade to 2.2
Thanks everyone for the input. The more I read and hear the more I am leaning toward not upgrading to 2.2. On different forums I am seeing and hearing problems with battery life and some saying about the same battery life. Also, seeing GPS not being fixed or going from working ok or good to not working so good. Right now my phone does everything I want, GPS works really good, email works fine, internet works fine, battery life is outstanding, mp3 works great, screens all are clean and to my liking, I have an easy work around for turning off 3G and one tap returning my volumes to normal after using a USSD code.
REally cannot see any advantage to upgrading and risking introducing a problem I don't need. The list of new features really does not thrill me.
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Thanks everyone for the input. The more I read and hear the more I am leaning toward not upgrading to 2.2. On different forums I am seeing and hearing problems with battery life and some saying about the same battery life. Also, seeing GPS not being fixed or going from working ok or good to not working so good. Right now my phone does everything I want, GPS works really good, email works fine, internet works fine, battery life is outstanding, mp3 works great, screens all are clean and to my liking, I have an easy work around for turning off 3G and one tap returning my volumes to normal after using a USSD code.
REally cannot see any advantage to upgrading and risking introducing a problem I don't need. The list of new features really does not thrill me.
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2.2 ROM is a big step forward, not backward, IMO. Sure it didn't solve GPS issue but it is not making it worse either. GPS issue is purely hardware issue. If you have a good one, it doesn't matter which stock firmware you use.
I just can't see any disadvantage for upgrading (other than slightly more difficult to root or unlock, but not impossible). Battery life thing is as I mentioned above. You will see all kinds of complaints (either dain too fast or too slow) after a new firmware comes out, any firmware. You don't know what you're missing until you upgraded.
I noticed a big improvement in battery life. Sometimes with light use it will last up to four days, whereas before with 2.1 it would putter out after maybe two days.
GPS isn't fixed, but drop one of many GPS fixes in and it will get somewhat normal performance.
Wifi sleep policy
You may also want to check the Wifi sleep policy after the upgrade to Froyo. In my case, the default was "Never sleep". Changing this to "When screen turns off" improves battery life on 2.2, as it does on 2.1.
Just my $.02 worth.
foxbat121 said:
Let your phone go through a week or so recharging cycle before judging its battery life after a ROM flashing. You just lost all your battery stats when flash a new ROM. Your phone/OS has no clue how your battery will operate until it has time to learn or you manually calibrate it.
For what it is worth, my battery life is about the same or slightly better than leaked 2.2 ROM as well as 2.1 ROM. No big changes.
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I'm on stock 2.2 since the day it came out. My battery life is actually trending worse day-by-day. I did a full battery clear/reset this weekend and after 4 days I'm finding battery life is not improving at all. The degradation from stock 2.1 is significantly noticeable to me.
For the first couple of days post-update it seemed actually to be better, but got worse and worse, to where I was lucky to find the phone working 12 hours after disconnecting from the charger @ 100% ... even if I hadn't -touched- the phone during the day. My applications loaded are virtually identical to before.
I did have Background Data on, so I've just disabled it, but was this option not in 2.1? I know that Google Voice, etc, were doing background syncs in 2.1.
It can't be WiFi, as for the last 2-3 days I've kept WiFi turned off. However just for sanity I did adjust the sleep policy.
I'm wondering ... my battery woes seemed to start when I hooked up my Microcell. Could having a strong 3G signal so close to the phone actually be causing problems?
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I did have Background Data on, so I've just disabled it, but was this option not in 2.1?
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it is the same as in 2.1.
I'm wondering ... my battery woes seemed to start when I hooked up my Microcell. Could having a strong 3G signal so close to the phone actually be causing problems?
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That might be your problem. I don't know. I know 2.1 doesn't work very well with microcell either.
Yep. I'm pretty convinced it is the microcell now. Phone works great with it from a call/data/signal standpoint. However after unplugging my microcell last night, charging my phone to 100%, and then letting the phone discharge normally with no microcell ... I'm now 10 hours later and have an almost full battery.
Sad, because our reception here is so spotty that we lose calls and data regularly without the microcell. My wife says her phone charge has been pretty normal, so I'm getting ready to move the cell away from my desk and see if distance helps the story.
So, as far as this thread is concerned, my results for 2.2 and battery life are great ... better than with 2.1 ... just don't use it with a microcell.
Froyao 2.2 Battery Usage Dillema
I see no significant or excess battery drain while riding the KB1 over the JF6.
Just a thought for those experiencing excessive or significant battery drain. KB1 loads some new features and new additional bloatware that loads on boot and runs as a service, process and both.
If you're familiar with poking around your system settings and understand what doesn't need to always be running in the background, or what doesn't need to load on boot, you can simply kill the process and even alter the way a certain application handles on boot.
By killing many unneeded or unwanted processes at boot time, it will significantly save you hours upon hours of battery life in the longer scheme.
Another FYI, Lithium Ion batteries have memory. You need to train or retrain the batteries memory over time in order to sustain a longer life for it.
Tips:
Don't continually through the charger on your device after minimal drainage. Let the battery run down before fully recharging it again.
When flashing to another ROM wipe your battery stats.
When flashing any new code to your device - a few forced charge deaths to purge the battery and reset the memory again prior to recharging may be a good idea...
Hope this helps...
Peace-
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ok so i own the sprint htc hero obviously and i keep switching between plain cm6 and blackmod every few months or so. For my Kernel i use
Decad3nce-DecaFuct #589 691mhz CFS stable
i keep it clocked at 245-691 with collins battery tweak
i charge my phone to 100% and then unplug it. screen off, gps, mobile data, sync, bluetooth, 3g, everything is off. brightness is as low as it can go. so im doing everything i can to save battery power. if i leave it in my pocket all day it CAN last about8 hours....that being said at that point its basically a brick. however if i turn anything on obviously it dies faster. if im online for 45 min my phone will die. a five minute youtube video costs me 32% of my battery. there is no way that my phone should be acting this way and im out of ideas. i have tried switching roms, wiping battery stats, running through battery cycles reverting back to stock via the RUU nothing works.
PLease if you wonderful people have any ideas *PLEASE* help me with this.....
Well you could try running a more current rom like CM7 or Aosp's CM7 GingerBread. Also you could try running your roms without the Collins battery tweak. You could try using dec's battery tweak if you prefer to use one. You could try calibrating your battery. Just a few things you could try that might help.
Edit: Also do you have an on screen off screen profile set with the battery tweak???
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Well you could try running a more current rom like CM7 or Aosp's CM7 GingerBread. Also you could try running your roms without the Collins battery tweak. You could try using dec's battery tweak if you prefer to use one. You could try calibrating your battery. Just a few things you could try that might help.
Edit: Also do you have an on screen off screen profile set with the battery tweak???
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i have tried cm7 and still had the same issue. and i am partial to the battery tweaks because setcpu and ocwidget seem like they would eat up resources wouldnt they?....i dont think ive heard of decs battery tweak tho....unless you mean the DECAmod one and i thought that was only for 2.1 roms.....maybe i got my facts mixed up tho...i calibrate my battery everytime that i flash a new rom to the phone. as far as i know the version i have does not allow for seperate profiles for screen on screen off.
I had the same problem and out of curiosity i dropped my processor speed from 710 to 576. Yeah its slower but on Aosp/CM7 and with sd-ext done its plenty fast. and with everything on and the phone in my pocket i drop about 4% every hour.
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i have tried cm7 and still had the same issue. and i am partial to the battery tweaks because setcpu and ocwidget seem like they would eat up resources wouldnt they?....i dont think ive heard of decs battery tweak tho....unless you mean the DECAmod one and i thought that was only for 2.1 roms.....maybe i got my facts mixed up tho...i calibrate my battery everytime that i flash a new rom to the phone. as far as i know the version i have does not allow for seperate profiles for screen on screen off.
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Deca's BattMod will work on CM7/aospCM7. However with CM7 you really don't need it (or anything else to overclock/underclock) as CPU settings are in the ROM itself. In fact, it is recommended that you don't, as they will/could fight with each other.
If properly calibrating the battery (properly is the key word) doesn't get you at least a solid day with moderate use, I would say it's time to look for a new battery. How old is it? Mine is about two years old and I still get about 2 days, stock aospCM7 ROM and kernel, moderate use with ONDEMAND 176/729
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I had the same problem and out of curiosity i dropped my processor speed from 710 to 576. Yeah its slower but on Aosp/CM7 and with sd-ext done its plenty fast. and with everything on and the phone in my pocket i drop about 4% every hour.
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I'd still say that 4% an hour, without using the phone is way too much. If your battery is still good, you should be able to get better than that by at least half (2% an hour drop).
I have been up for two hours (unplugged at 6AM, it's now 8:56AM) and am still at 99% and that is with moderate usage (a couple texts, sent and received an email, one 3 minute phone call, some Facebook and XDA).
See ^^ for my settings. Give it a try
My brothers hero would die incredibly fast also no matter what we tried. We ended up RUUing and taking it into sprint. They did a battery test said they didn't know why it died so fast and ordered him a brand new one. He had normal batt life again after that.
So if all else fails try taking it into sprint and see what they tell you.
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lycancowboy1989 said:
ok so i own the sprint htc hero obviously and i keep switching between plain cm6 and blackmod every few months or so. For my Kernel i use
Decad3nce-DecaFuct #589 691mhz CFS stable
i keep it clocked at 245-691 with collins battery tweak
i charge my phone to 100% and then unplug it. screen off, gps, mobile data, sync, bluetooth, 3g, everything is off. brightness is as low as it can go. so im doing everything i can to save battery power. if i leave it in my pocket all day it CAN last about8 hours....that being said at that point its basically a brick. however if i turn anything on obviously it dies faster. if im online for 45 min my phone will die. a five minute youtube video costs me 32% of my battery. there is no way that my phone should be acting this way and im out of ideas. i have tried switching roms, wiping battery stats, running through battery cycles reverting back to stock via the RUU nothing works.
PLease if you wonderful people have any ideas *PLEASE* help me with this.....
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When you go to the battery usage stats in Settings--About Phone, what does it show you? That may show/tell what is eating up your battery so much.
What is your signal like? Are you in an area with poor signal? If so that could possibly cause the battery drain -- a phone working hard to keep a decent signal eats battery pretty quickly. Consider upgrading to the newest .29 radio baseband (if you're on Sprint) if you haven't already.
Try to check out the battery usage in your Settings and report back what it shows. We may can help you notice anything out of the norm.
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Deca's BattMod will work on CM7/aospCM7. However with CM7 you really don't need it (or anything else to overclock/underclock) as CPU settings are in the ROM itself. In fact, it is recommended that you don't, as they will/could fight with each other.
If properly calibrating the battery (properly is the key word) doesn't get you at least a solid day with moderate use, I would say it's time to look for a new battery. How old is it? Mine is about two years old and I still get about 2 days, stock aospCM7 ROM and kernel, moderate use with ONDEMAND 176/729
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my phone is about 7 months old. so battery *shouldnt* be crapping out quite yet as battery life on one of these seems to typically be about two years before it starts to crappify.
@MrDowntown12
i thought about that but was worried that the ruu doesnt get it COMPLETELY back to stock. good to know it does and that someone pulled one over on sprint ^_^ if all else fails then ill try this but in all honesty they will prob still charge me $50 and i just dont have it.....
@chromiumleaf
battery usage is:
Display 59%
cell standby 12%
Phone idle 11%
android OS 8%
Media 5%
setcpu 3%
google search 2%
gallery 3d 2%
"top -m 5 -n 1" returns
process id 2337 at 8% and 163 which i believe is the phone itself if im not mistaken is at 5%......everything else is zeros.
also i think my coverage is pretty average. throughout the day i typically have about three bars but my dbm is 80-100 the whole day and im not sure if thats high.
fyi these stats are while doing my battery cycles if it matters. and ive been unplugged for about 25 min and ive dropped from 100 to 91 with doing nothing but checking battery stats and running the terminal for a minute.
Edit: i know that android os is getting more and more popular....do you think its possible that i caught some kind of virus somehow???? the only ones ive seen are in china but is it likely that my phone is infected? also i want to run cm7 but as far as i can tell there really arent any stables out yet just the experimental nightlies and ive tried it and it didnt fix drain *immediately* but maybe after batt cycles? second edit^_^ i apologize i did not know exactly what you meant by signal. after finding THIS
-105 to -100 = Really bad
-99 to -90 = Not great
-89 to -80 = Pretty good
-79 to -65 = Good
Over -65 = Excellent
i now understand and my dbm hovers at about 88 half the time and the other half it shoots to 97
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battery usage is:
Display 59%
cell standby 12%
Phone idle 11%
android OS 8%
Media 5%
setcpu 3%
google search 2%
gallery 3d 2%
"top -m 5 -n 1" returns
process id 2337 at 8% and 163 which i believe is the phone itself if im not mistaken is at 5%......everything else is zeros.
fyi these stats are while doing my battery cycles if it matters. and ive been unplugged for about 25 min and ive dropped from 100 to 91 with doing nothing but checking battery stats and running the terminal for a minute.
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Ok so if all you were doing in 25 mins was checking battery stats and running the terminal for a little bit, it seems strange that Google Search, Gallery 3d, and Media would have some battery pull on them -- did you even open/use them at all? If not, then it seems like maybe you have some programs running non-stop in the background that are eating your battery even when you're not using them. Try clearing data and cache for any of those in your Settings-->Applications-->Manage Applications menu.
Also, just curious...when you change roms, do you wipe everything (data, dalvik, ext) before flashing to a new one?
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I'd still say that 4% an hour, without using the phone is way too much. If your battery is still good, you should be able to get better than that by at least half (2% an hour drop).
I have been up for two hours (unplugged at 6AM, it's now 8:56AM) and am still at 99% and that is with moderate usage (a couple texts, sent and received an email, one 3 minute phone call, some Facebook and XDA).
See ^^ for my settings. Give it a try
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I forgot to say that i have music playing through headphones whenever im awake lol, but yeah ill give that a try.
No I had not used any of those. I tried what you suggested and the battery is draining faster T^T. And I always do a full wipe. I wipe data and dalvik reformat my sd and as soon as I her the rom on my phone I go through three battery cycles.
HAHA Solved! for me anyway.
ok so my guess is that its not reading my batts full capacity because i didnt charge fully before one of my flashes. so what i did was:
*charge to full
*run my ruu to revert back to stock
*with phone -ON- charge til green
*power -OFF-
*charge for another two hours
*boot into recovery
*flash like you normally would
*Run through your Battery cycles like normal
since i have done that my battery has been fine. or as good as a battery on a smartphone can be anyway lol