I am new to this whole rooting thing and have some questions about rom manager and nandroid backup. I have the ROM manager app but have not done the backup yet. My question is if i make a backup with ROM manager is that essentially the same thing as a nandroid backup???
I also have titanium backup and have backed up all my apps and stuff. So if i do load another rom do i use titanium backup to reload the apps that i have after i load the new rom?
my phone was rooted with z4root, i have superuser, have ran titanium backup, and have ROM manager.
EDIT: phone is a moto droid 1
EDIT2:i tried to follow this guide ( im unable to post the link but its on androidpolice forum )
I was able to create an image and then went to make my nandroid backup. i followed the steps and it just booted my phone like normal and didnt create the folder. Do i have to have my phone mounted while doing this? Do i have to do anything to the img files that were created?
EDIT:3 I finally was able to make my nandroid backup. I guess i will look into ROMs now.....
thanks
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I'm a bit confused on what the differences are between the 3 and when you'd want one over the other. I could figure out the 2nd half of the question if it was more clear the first half.
Here is what I think I've gleaned:
ClockWork backs up my ROM ...does it do installed apps too? does it grab user data? Is it the one stop recover from my own stupidity app?
Titanium backs up installed apps and their settings?
nandroid...no clue really
It would be nice to put this into a wiki
Peter
Clockwork is the ROM manager flash to your phone to allow you to get into the restore mod.
Nandroid is the backup of your entire phone at that time.
Titanium backsup your apps and app data.
Backing up your ROM is like a restore point on a computer, you reload that and your phone is back to the way it was at that point. Titanium allows you to back up your apps and reinstall all backups/app data/ or just some. Whatever your preference.
wow, I didn't think I was confused, but i guess I am now.
I understand Titanium app+data backup. No Q's there.
But as for ROM Manager, I've always been under the impression that when I choose the "Backup Current ROM" option within ROM Manager, I was performing a full image backup of the phone. Is this not the case? If not, what exactly am I backing up? As the OP inquired, what is the difference between this and the nandroid b/u?
You are correct - ROM Manager, is the big tool that encompasses the others. It uses NANdroid to do a full backup - everything. It is more of a disk image then a restore point.
You use ROM Manager to boot into a special menu that gives you NANdroid and NANdroid has access to the entire ROM and Data to back everything up.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Howto:_Nandroid_Backup
I have been trying to sort this out in my mind as well. I think this is the case (someone please correct if wrong):
nandroid, whether done from within CWM or Rom Manager, essentially makes an image backup of your whole phone--perhaps not technically as an "image," but the end effect is the same. If you restore a nandroid backup, you get your whole phone back exactly as it was when the backup was made.
LATER: Soccer_Dad said that nandroid does not include the modem and kernel.
TitaniumBackup depends a bit on what you select at the time the backup is made, but mostly is used to backup apps and (apps data???), although it can do more than that. Typically, it is used to restore your apps back onto a phone after flashing a new ROM.
If those are correct, I have a question still--how do you backup and restore your homescreens or desktop icons? I presume they would be included in a nandroid backup, but if you do a ROM and TitaniumBackup restore, is there an easy way to get all your app icons back onto the right screen panels?
movrshakr said:
I have been trying to sort this out in my mind as well. I think this is the case (someone please correct if wrong):
nandroid, whether done from within CWM or Rom Manager, essentially makes an image backup of your whole phone--perhaps not technically as an "image," but the end effect is the same. If you restore a nandroid backup, you get your whole phone back exactly as it was when the backup was made.
TitaniumBackup depends a bit on what you select at the time the backup is made, but mostly is used to backup apps and (apps data???), although it can do more than that. Typically, it is used to restore your apps back onto a phone after flashing a new ROM.
If those are correct, I have a question still--how do you backup and restore your homescreens or desktop icons? I presume they would be included in a nandroid backup, but if you do a ROM and TitaniumBackup restore, is there an easy way to get all your app icons back onto the right screen panels?
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Quick answer would be to backup the data of your launcher. I personaly use ADW Ex and whenever I restore it after a flash, it all comes back the way it was (beside wallpaper which isn't all too hard to change )
movrshakr said:
I have been trying to sort this out in my mind as well. I think this is the case (someone please correct if wrong):
nandroid, whether done from within CWM or Rom Manager, essentially makes an image backup of your whole phone--perhaps not technically as an "image," but the end effect is the same. If you restore a nandroid backup, you get your whole phone back exactly as it was when the backup was made.
TitaniumBackup depends a bit on what you select at the time the backup is made, but mostly is used to backup apps and (apps data???), although it can do more than that. Typically, it is used to restore your apps back onto a phone after flashing a new ROM.
If those are correct, I have a question still--how do you backup and restore your homescreens or desktop icons? I presume they would be included in a nandroid backup, but if you do a ROM and TitaniumBackup restore, is there an easy way to get all your app icons back onto the right screen panels?
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With Titanium backup select your homescreen app and backup app + data. Widgets will have to be reapplied but apps and icons should be all there when you restore.
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movrshakr said:
I have been trying to sort this out in my mind as well. I think this is the case (someone please correct if wrong):
nandroid, whether done from within CWM or Rom Manager, essentially makes an image backup of your whole phone--perhaps not technically as an "image," but the end effect is the same. If you restore a nandroid backup, you get your whole phone back exactly as it was when the backup was made.
TitaniumBackup depends a bit on what you select at the time the backup is made, but mostly is used to backup apps and (apps data???), although it can do more than that. Typically, it is used to restore your apps back onto a phone after flashing a new ROM.
If those are correct, I have a question still--how do you backup and restore your homescreens or desktop icons? I presume they would be included in a nandroid backup, but if you do a ROM and TitaniumBackup restore, is there an easy way to get all your app icons back onto the right screen panels?
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In case you are a flashaholic, the nandroid backup gets everything...except the modem and kernel. If you flash a bunch, and then restore an earlier nandroid backup, you could end up with some incompatibilities. I rename my backups (found in the clockworkmod directory on your sdcard) with date.rom.kernel.modem, so I know how to get a true restore (and I keep a flashable copy of the kernel and modem on my PC so I don't have to search for those in XDA, since the site is always undergoing maintenance at 10 pm PDT).
I use that a bunch, to go back to a perfectly functional Serendipity after testing out other mods/roms/etc. You will want to back up and store current tasks, calendar items, contacts, call logs, sms, etc. before your restore, to update the old rom with your recent calls/texts/etc.
Thanks. Nice additional explanation. I did not know that nandroid did not do modem and kernel. (Is there something that does?)
Will modify my previous post for future readers.
So, here's the deal. I'm still a total noob regarding almost anything Android related. I did search for answers and explanations before opening this thread. I'm really sorry if I annoy anyone with this but I'm getting desperate as any information I find seems to be antinoobproof.
First of all, about busybox.
I found somewhere on the internet that I can check if I have busybox installed by typing busybox in Terminal Emulator and if a list of commands gets returned it's installed. I did it and I got the list of commands, but when I go into busybox installer app it says that busybox is not installed. What's with that?
Then, about nandroid backup.
Some say Titanium backup makes a nandroid backup, some say it doesn't. Which is it?
I found some tutorials on making nandroid backup in Recovery mode, but when I'm trying to make a nandroid backup in Recovery mode there's no option for it. Yes, I have root access. I have the exact same screen as here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/images/f/f8/Ri9000ecovery.jpg
Only these options are available:
reboot
apply update...
wipe data...
wipe cache...
How do I get the nandroid backup option in Recovery mode?
Thirdly.
If I want to make a complete clone of the current state of my phone, to which I can revert if anything goes bad, before flashing different firmware. Which backups should I make... nandroid, efs backup, complete backup in Titanium backup app, backup in ROM manager app?
And lastly, a little help with terminology.
What exactly is nandroid backup - what does nandroid stand for? Why is it different than regular old backup?
What's busybox or better yet what is it used for?
I hope someone will answer these puzzling questions to me for which I'll be forever grateful.
PS: I'll probably have some more questions later.
SO EXCITED! I just rooted my Captivate, set the database for side loading did a backup with ROM Manager and with Titanium and now I AM READY TO GET A CUSTOM ROM!
Before I do though quick question....
Should I unistall all apps before flashing? Not sure how that would work.
Or can I leave them on there? If I do have to uninstall... Can I then just restore them to the new ROM with Titanium?
THANKS!
No need to uninstall apps
When restoring with titanium only restore user apps. Do not restore nandroid made be clockwork
Thanks! Wish me luck!
If you have read, luck is not needed
I know there are a lot of apps for back up/restoring, but does anyone know any working for ICS? I have tried AppExtractor with ROM Manager, didn't work. The Message-app started to behave strange. Tried SMS Backup & Restore, was able to restore the sms but couldn't not open them.
I'm currently using NovaHD's ICS Rom.
You can restore your messages from /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db and mmssms.db-journal in your nandroid backup (just extract and replace)
And your calls from /data/data/com.android.providers.contacts/database/contacts2.db and contacts2.db-journal
(Extract and replace)
Nandroid = CWM?
So, basically your saying that i should extract my backup and the rom, then find these folders extract the backup one to the rom and then zip it again?
Two options
#1 Restore your backup, copy the files to a temp folder on sdcard, flash your new rom and replace them
#2 Extract them from your backup and then replace them
It might be other solutions aswell but these are simple
Nandroid = CWM
HerrKuk said:
Two options
#1 Restore your backup, copy the files to a temp folder on sdcard, flash your new rom and replace them
#2 Extract them from your backup and then replace them
It might be other solutions aswell but these are simple
Nandroid = CWM
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Not gonna have to until friday to test this, but really thanks! Sounds pretty easy!
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HerrKuk said:
Two options
#1 Restore your backup, copy the files to a temp folder on sdcard, flash your new rom and replace them
#2 Extract them from your backup and then replace them
It might be other solutions aswell but these are simple
Nandroid = CWM
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just a small mention....file types from CM7 or Cm 9 are not the same with other GB formats....so are not comaptible....be careful with that.
HerrKuk, i'm kind of new to rooting but i need android sdk to do this?!
Sreeprajay, i'm goding from stock rom to custom, should work right?!
Optimus-ICS said:
HerrKuk, i'm kind of new to rooting but i need android sdk to do this?!
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Nope, just root and and root explorer (or similar)
You dont even need a computer
Or use nandroid browser from the market : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.goddchen.android.nandroidbrowser
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Optimus-ICS said:
HerrKuk, i'm kind of new to rooting but i need android sdk to do this?!
Sreeprajay, i'm goding from stock rom to custom, should work right?!
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from the stock to custom, it will be prefect...just make sure once you are rooted, backup your msgs and call logs by either apps or by backing the ROM totally....
Hope it helps
So, i installed root explorer, copied mmssms.db(no journal-file), flashed owain's rom, installed root explorer, replaced my mmssms.db file in the rom, rebooted and the SMS-client won't start.
Optimus, maybe this will help you:
This is "backup to gmail"
I have got this aplication (paid) but it`s works on ICS (owain 29)
Take a look on my screenshot.
sms backup & restore works perfectly for me, but no idea on that phone call log
Albatros2605, MoFosis, Thanks for your help guys, but managed to restore my SMS by using SMS Backup+, which copies everything to your gmail and then downloads it to restore the SMS.
Hi guys, I recently screwed the pooch on an upgrade to 4.0.4, and I forgot to backup SMS before doing it. I did a nandroid backup, but I can neither restore the backup nor locate the mmssms.db file in the archive. I tried AppExtractor and Titanium Backup, but with no success.
Can someone help me by telling me where to locate my SMS history in a nandroid backup? Thanks!
Hi Guys!
I've just flashed my HTC One to the ViperOne ROM. And since i backed up all my apps beforehand with ADB i was wondering if i could use the backup file that i have on my PC taken with the stock ROM, on my new rom?
Cheers!
What do you mean by 'backed up using adb'? Did you copy files from your phone to your computer?
deeevan said:
What do you mean by 'backed up using adb'? Did you copy files from your phone to your computer?
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Thanks for the fast reply!
I've followed this vid through the root process where it was suggested to do a backup as seen here: http://youtu.be/qpj6dEMn9dw?t=2m45s
So i basically used ADB to backup apps settings etc and it saved a file on my comp. And i was wondering if i could use that even if made on a different ROM.
I'm out and on my phone, don't really want to watch a video to find out what command you ran. I assume it was a whole system backup like a nandroid.
Because you've now installed a different ROM, you only want to restore certain parts of your backup ie. You just want your user apps and data restored. If you restored your whole backup, you'd wipe Viper ROM and be back where you started.
Have a look at TitaniumBackup and Helium which will allow you to just backup and restore apps. I use Titanium and it has options to extract from a nandroid or adb backup.
I ran it and it seems to have worked. Still on the Viper rom atleast!
But thanks for the help!
Just read up about adb backup. Thanks, learnt something new today.
You should look at Titanium as it will give you finer grain control over restoring.