hi all, as you probably know, cell standby (data background while phone is standby) takes ALOTTTT of battery so i want to know if there is an app to auto kill data network when i power off the phone (to avoid cell standby) and power on again auto when power on the phone from standby
juicedefender
You mean Juicedefender and such (if I remember correctly, there is at least 1 more app that does the same thing), and IMO - it completely defeats the whole purpose of modern mobile OS. If I didn't want to be connected to the network wherever I go, I wouldn't be buying a smartphone.
The battery lasts a day easily, with or without data.
frankmust said:
hi all, as you probably know, cell standby (data background while phone is standby) takes ALOTTTT of battery so i want to know if there is an app to auto kill data network when i power off the phone (to avoid cell standby) and power on again auto when power on the phone from standby
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if you want to completely disable data, the app youre looking for IS juicedefender - the free version disables data completely and re-enables it every 15 minutes to get any notifications.
I would also suggest trying:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739530
which switches 3g to edge (and uses less battery) after a specified amount of time in standby
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My phone was 100% battery 4 hours ago - now it's 45%
I haven't even hardly used it this morning.
This is ridiculous. Any ideas ?
Froyo 2.2 (bell i9000m)
Funkadelick said:
My phone was 100% battery 4 hours ago - now it's 45%
I haven't even hardly used it this morning.
This is ridiculous. Any ideas ?
Froyo 2.2 (bell i9000m)
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Maybe sounds silly, but do You have 3G / HSDPA full timeturned on and/or any data eating app(s) running in the background? Usually these drains my I9000 really fast. If I take care to turn stimes 3G off (only 2G allowed) and shutting down the app(s) which run in background make my phone usable for a day.
it's 100% normal to suck so much battery life if you are constantly using 3G or WiFi or long phone calls
I know how to disable HDSPA, but how to disable 3g? :S tnahks
You are using it or something in the background is using it.
Full-on use (gaming) burns about 20% per hour in my experience. Browsing might be a little less but not much because instead of using CPU/GPU power it uses data.
The screen is the major burn, how long does battery usage say the screen has been on?
My battery drain is always pretty much exactly 20%/hour screen time + 1%/hour on time. It will deviate from this if I've played alot of music (especially streaming) since it uses power but not the screen, this drain rate will depend on the player and type of music (built-in player playing from SD card is lean, Tune-in radio streaming over 3G is a hog that heats the phone up, Slacker is in between).
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Maybe sounds silly, but do You have 3G / HSDPA full timeturned on and/or any data eating app(s) running in the background? Usually these drains my I9000 really fast. If I take care to turn stimes 3G off (only 2G allowed) and shutting down the app(s) which run in background make my phone usable for a day.
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I'm sorta new - how do you turn 3G off and turn 2G on ?
I don't have hardly anything running in the background (not that I know of)
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I know how to disable HDSPA, but how to disable 3g? :S tnahks
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I don't know how to disable anything lol
can I still txt with this off ?
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it's 100% normal to suck so much battery life if you are constantly using 3G or WiFi or long phone calls
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didn't use wifi - didn't make 1 phone call today at all
Could be a few reasons for that. If you've recently flashed a new firmware your battery stats may be messed up. Just run down your battery down a few times and it should sort itself out.
Maybe you turned your phone on while it was plugged in. This usually stuffs up the battery stats and can show as much as 30% extra battery when turned on that way. Always remove the charger before booting.
Also, to turn off 3g/hsdpa/data go to settings/wireless & network/network mode and select gsm only (2g). You can also download the widget '2g 3g' which will take you straight there. Also, you can uncheck 'use packet data'. This will kill all data which saves battery. I turn it back on with the widget whenever I need data again. The power button menu also has that option. I'm on 2.2.1 so it may differ if you are on 2.1.
Pretty sure you can still text with data off but may want to test it. If message fails then no. However mms send/receive won't work I think.
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Browsing might be a little less but not much because instead of using CPU/GPU power it uses data.
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i can do 5 to 6 hours straight of 3G browsing with screen on auto before it runs dry
3G + Screen = high power eaters
if i play 3D MMO (pocket craft) then it even less time
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Could be a few reasons for that. If you've recently flashed a new firmware your battery stats may be messed up. Just run down your battery down a few times and it should sort itself out.
Maybe you turned your phone on while it was plugged in. This usually stuffs up the battery stats and can show as much as 30% extra battery when turned on that way. Always remove the charger before booting.
Also, to turn off 3g/hsdpa/data go to settings/wireless & network/network mode and select gsm only (2g). You can also download the widget '2g 3g' which will take you straight there. Also, you can uncheck 'use packet data'. This will kill all data which saves battery. I turn it back on with the widget whenever I need data again. The power button menu also has that option. I'm on 2.2.1 so it may differ if you are on 2.1.
Pretty sure you can still text with data off but may want to test it. If message fails then no. However mms send/receive won't work I think.
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I just recently upgraded to 2.2 froyo
i heard there's a battery stats trick, anyone know it ?
there's no battery stats trick . its just a logfile that's stored. nothing else. the trick you're probably talking about is calibration of the battery.
drain fully, charge to full while powered off. one or two charges like this should sort it.
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Hey I have a bell i9000 and I have to say that I'm extremely happy with my battery life, I've been unplugged since 9 am, its 7:30 now and my battery indicator is reading 37% with above average use (some phone calls, gaming, browsing...) I would advise you to do these things:
1) install darky's rom (9.2)
2) flash speedmod kernel 13b (very good on the battery)
3) use setcpu and set with these values, max:800mhz, min:100mhz (conservative), and add a profile for screen off with min/max @ 100 mhz and 100 priority level (don't worry, your phone will still feel snappy even @ 800mhz)
4) use a black wallpaper, since black is rendered by turning off pixels on an amoled display.
You should see some improvements, hope it helps!
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So, I finally was able to disable "cell standby" by the following procedure (for reference see the following in the Acer Iconia 500 forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063123&highlight=cell+standby )
Using "Bloat Freezer" freeze phone.apk (the instant this is done, it will force close - just hold the power button until it shuts off ) - this will only happen once. Then using "Bloat Freezer" freeze telephony.providers.apk - this doesn't force close. Reboot once more and viola! no more cell standby.
Settings>About>Battery Use only shows "Tablet Idle". Of course, whether this has any effect on battery life is anybody's guess but over on the Iconia forum it's claimed that this does improve battery life. YMMV
Cell Standby - Notification!
Further to the above post, I just noticed in the notification area at the top a new icon - it's 4 bars with an x over the lowest bar. It's like when you turn a cellphone on airplane mode - same type of icon.
Also, I had airplane mode enabled (I always have that) and now the little airplane no longer shows up - I guess it's been replaced by the "bars with x" icon. WiFi still works as well as it did before.
To me, this indicates that mobile data is off but maybe someone more knowledgable can give a better explanation.
If I understand correctly, this is for ALL mobile data, right? I'm wondering if the Android software is looking for mobile data AND cell phone service, and if that's robbing battery life since these are data only. Is that the case, or is cell standby simply 3G/4G/edge?
I've always had my data on in all my phones.. .I got fed up of the gnote's battery life so I decided to turn it off when I was not using it and God I was surprised, I watched a whole movie and played that train game and I lost only about 15 -20% of my juice.....
so today I turned off my data and WiFi before i went to sleep and when I woke up 6 hours later I had only lost 1%
that has never happened before...
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wifi has been known to be a great battery hogger on the note, interestingly enough it should be the other way around
as for the data, the phone works extra hard in lower signal areas to boost reception, hence drinking juice
I always disable wifi and data when I'm not using them.
I use the Go Power Master widget to switch between different profiles I have set up for wifi, mobile data, wifi with autosynch and no data.
There are other widgets that do the same thing. Just saves you having to toggle each setting separately.
If I stay connected with wifi, it's not too bad, but if I move out of a wifi area, and leave it on, it seems to drain battery faster (I'm guessing because it keeps rescanning for connections?).
I have somwhere describe this
Any way you will find this solutione better.
Use phoneweaver, you can describe the time, it will stop data at defned time, as well switch on too at your describe time. So if you set data off time just after your time to sleep, N switch on time just b4 your wake up time, you even need not to bother do do it manually
same way this can be triggered by location too, you can switch on/off data/wifi at perticular place.
And there are lot action you can set.
agree to rechlum if you are connected to wi-fi is consume less battery thn you are connected to net with 3G, N keep wifi open with connected to data is draining battery too fast.
could it all mean that I wasted a lot of time trying to reduce my battery consumption with WiFi on?
so far by disabling the unnecessary apps strartups (Autorun Manager) and turning off non-essential syncs I was able to get down to ca. 7mA (Battery Monitor Widget estimates) in standby mode, BUT only when WiFi is off.
When it's on, the power consumption stays at ca. 60mA in standby mode, which is something I cannot comprehed - using CyanogenMod on my previous device I was able to stay below 15mA regardless of WiFi state.
Turning off data is pretty stupid. I don`t about you but my phone is actively working in the background.
checking email every 5mins
gmail syncing
facebook notifications
twiter syncing
Linkedin updates
ebay notification
3G data monitoring
weather updates every 30mins
Latitude monitoring
stocks updates
sports scores updates every 1min with your choice of espn, score mobile, fox sports...
bottom line is gotta use a smartphone as a smartphone. With data turned off notifications are not happening.
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Turning off data is pretty stupid. I don`t about you but my phone is actively working in the background.
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If I know I'm not going to be looking at my phone for a while, it's not much use wasting battery having wifi or 3G turned on.
I'm a teacher, so I often have 3-4 hour blocks of time that I won't touch my phone.
I just turn wifi or data back on when I'm ready and my updates still come through when I'm ready to view them. Any updates that might have come through if I had left data enabled, I wouldn't have seen any earlier...
If I'm watching a movie I'll often switch off data because I know I won't be looking at my phone for 2 hours.
I don't see how conserving the battery is "stupid".
One could argue that leaving data enabled when you aren't in a position to use it is "stupid"...
Just out of curiosity, is there some pre-made application that allows me to turn data and wifi off after 5-10 minutes after then screen has been turned off and then turn both back on when the screen is turned on? Or should I just code it myself?
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Just out of curiosity, is there some pre-made application that allows me to turn data and wifi off after 5-10 minutes after then screen has been turned off and then turn both back on when the screen is turned on? Or should I just code it myself?
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there's an option in Settings / WiFi Settings / Menu key to turn WiFi off when screen is off,
besides that there was one to do exactly what you need, but cannot remeber it's name, if you don't find anything satisfactory then try Lama - it has quite a large range of location-based triggers
Leaving wifi on when you're not using is awful. It completely prevents the phone from going to deep sleep.
I get awesome battery life simply by leaving wifi on only when the screen is on. My battery ranges from 18 hours to 1 day and 23 hours, depending on my use (temple run )
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Just out of curiosity, is there some pre-made application that allows me to turn data and wifi off after 5-10 minutes after then screen has been turned off and then turn both back on when the screen is turned on? Or should I just code it myself?
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Greenpower will do exactly that. You can set it up so it turns off wifi and 3G/data after a set amount of time after turning off the screen and turn it back on when the screen is turned on. You can have it sync once every n minutes/hours so you still get Whatsapp, emails and other stuff without having to turn on the screen.
It's working like a charm for me, before I used to lose 15 to 20% every night, now with the same usage I've only lost 30% in 67 hours.
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Turning off data is pretty stupid. I don`t about you but my phone is actively working in the background.
checking email every 5mins
gmail syncing
facebook notifications
twiter syncing
Linkedin updates
ebay notification
3G data monitoring
weather updates every 30mins
Latitude monitoring
stocks updates
sports scores updates every 1min with your choice of espn, score mobile, fox sports...
bottom line is gotta use a smartphone as a smartphone. With data turned off notifications are not happening.
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Everybody has different needs. If you need all this and to be aware of what i going on in your no-doubt busy social life, then you can do this.
On the other hand, it is utterly useless if you are not going to pick up the phone and see what the weather is (instead of looking out the window) and who is doing what on Facebook (or writing things in Facebook instead of actually doing things) as soon as it beeps at you. In those situations, turning of data will save battery with no loss of information.
Personally I love a 'pull' digital life, rather than a 'push' one. I have far too much to be getting on with to be constantly hassled.
Of course, in actually writing this, I am proving myself completely wrong, but what the hey?
I only care about my Google+ account and my e-mails, everything else matters only when I personally decide to check it. As such I've set my phone to turn data back on every 30 minutes, sync e-mails and Google+, and then turn data back off again.
I use Timeriffic (free from Market/Play) to disable Wifi/Data etc based on time of day.
I don't really care about emails when I'm sleeping!
A must have application IMO.
Hey Guys -
I've had my AT&T HTC One for 4-5 months now and really like it. By far, the biggest issue is the battery life I get (or don't get.) I run many things on my phone - especially wit Tasker, but based off the stats I've seen the issue is coming from somewhere else. Below is some data from my phone. Please help me determine how to resolve this.
Overview
- AT&T HTC One
- ViperOne 6.2.1 (latest)
- Nova Dashboard
- 25gb of 32gb used /
Average Usage
- 4-5 Calls / day - ~15 texts
- Wi-fi stays on / Bluetooth on only when in car (controlled by tasker)
- Stream bluetooth audio (from local file on phone) when in car but also plugged in & getting 2.4 amps during this time
- ~15 Tasker profiles (2 are location based and use High accuracy)
Misc Notes
- Google Services is usually the top one by a good amount followed by Tasker. The problem is that I can't drill down in Google Services to see which service it is.
- I have the screen set to timeout after 10 seconds. Sometimes this doesn't work, though. Ideas for how to fix?
- I noticed today that in the Power menu, "Cell Usage" (Battery used by cell radio) was at 18%. Time on was 4h 43m and time without signal was 59%! Just started a new job and saw that I get hardly any signal when holding phone so believe it. Have any ideas about this besides turning it off when at work? I still need to be able to receive calls.
If there are any logs or whatever else you know that I may pull, I'll be happy to do so. I'm open to any suggestions you have. Thanks!
I get about the same life in my battery. I would set a profile to drop it to 2g while at work. This may help
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- ViperOne 6.2.1 (latest)
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i guess full of tweaks enabled and full apps running and enabled - than its normal hat the battery runs out after a half day.
Try Juice defender maybe
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.latedroid.juicedefender
Edit: in some cases it works to preserve battery by reconfiguring radio signals.
Also greenify is a must to hibernate those pesky apps that don't want to stop running. That can give improvement to your battery life too.
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Time without signal is killing the battery due to radio scanning for network. If there's no signal you're not going to receive calls, so put it in airplane mode.
Next is Tasker and location based profiles, that's what's causing the Google Play Services drain due to high power GPS location. Also, Tasker is keeping the device awake.
Ditch Tasker, leave WiFi on all the time (it uses almost no power when disconnected) and use it at work instead of mobile data, get Lean Data instead for controlling data, and switch to airplane mode if there's no signal.
Thanks Guys!
Hello, I bought my Oneplus 3T recently and I'm using stick ROMwith ElementalX. The main problem I found is that everytime I look at what consumed the highest percentage of my battery are things like WA, Google Play Services, etc. If I click on the to see what is happening, I always get the Mobile Radio Active working like pretty much all the time.
For example, in a normal use for me which is between 26-30 hours until I decide to charge my phone(between 10-20%), I get a SoT of 4 hours and a half more or less. The problem is that from the total percentage of battery used, these applications which have the Mobile Radio Active problem drain between 10-15% of the total amount of battery, while my screen is like 7% of that total value.
Researching on XDA, I couldn't get any solution to this problem. I call this a problem because, every day I see new photos from people with between 7-9 h of SoT in maybe 20 hours of use. Of course, you can't really call this a bad performance of my phone but I think that this difference of hours with screen on is greater than the amount of time my phone stays with my screen off.
As a consequence, I wanted to know if there is a solution or some tips to reduce that Mobile Radio Active bug in order to extend the time between charges.
Thnk you very much.
Additional information: I cleaned flash stock today + ElementalX kernel + SuperSu to see if this kind of bug dissappears.
To "solve" the Mobile Radio Active bug you must take some extreme steps:
First, Root your device. This MUST be SuperSu unfortunately, as the app I'm going to suggest doesn't allow you to toggle the required settings with Magisk or Phh.
Install LeanDroid.
In settings, allow disabling of Wifi, Cellular Data, Bluetooth, Network Location and GPS Location.
Set to "0 min" after screen off. Click "Except".
Configure this screen to your taste, but I have "Except if tethering", "Except if charging (AC). Under Wifi I have "Except if connected to <my home WIFI>" and I have "Except if active: Limit" set to 100KB/s.
Bluetooth "Except if connected"
Location "Except if GPS in use"
and "Network Mode except if original strength OK."
Go back to the main panel.
Restore "After Screen Unlocked"
"Every 60 MIN after screen off" (Configure this to your liking)
With SuperSU and the above, turning the phone screen off disables the data modem when the transfer rate is low, this effectively shuts down the radio and prevents the Mobile Radio Active bug.
Run this with tools like Greenify and ForceDoze to really pump your battery life.
It's not unusual for me to see 8 hour screen on time with these apps and the above configuration.
and without root?
Just curious, how is the status of this bug ? I followed that Bug for like 1.5Years...since Lollipop i think. I myself tryed several things in Sultans ROMs in a OnePlusOne, but no Solution so far ;-(
Bug is still active. As far as I can tell, it remains active in Oero too.
The only option if you are not rooted is to close all apps and toggle airplane mode before you switch the screen off. This only solves the issue until the next time data is accessed by any app, though
THX for reply. Jepp on Wifi i get 4-5days @3-4h SOT. On Mobile only 2 days
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THX for reply. Jepp on Wifi i get 4-5days @3-4h SOT. On Mobile only 2 days
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Obviously, it takes more power to send/receive signals to a cell tower 10 miles away, versus a WiFi router that is 20 feet away.
Also using WiFi doesn't ensure the modem is Switched off. Modem power doesn't mean data.
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Bug is still active. As far as I can tell, it remains active in Oero too.
The only option if you are not rooted is to close all apps and toggle airplane mode before you switch the screen off. This only solves the issue until the next time data is accessed by any app, though
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This this bugs even remain active in Oreo i will never use android again.
It's existed since Lollipop and I doubt Google will fix it any time soon.
To get 7 hours of on screen time, you will of course have to sacrifice something, the laws of physics are always with us, reminding us from day to day things that can and can't be done. But hey, if you live in a cardboard box next to a cell tower should give you much better battery time without sacrificing the phone-part of your smart device. ? ?