Hi all.
I was running 2.1 Eclair just a few hours ago and was getting constant scores of 2.2K+ on Quadrant with the OCLF. I'm now running a rooted 2.2 Froyo with the same OCLF and scoring 1846. I can barely see a loss of performance... Does anyone know why this is?
Thanks in advance.
Because Quadrant is a SYNTHETIC BENCHMARK! It only tests a single specific workload
I was also under the impression that OCLF didn't work on Froyo unless you first ran the Z4 app and then the OCLF. I also agree though that Quadrant isn't that useful. The best test is whether you're happy with the speed of the phone. I'd be happy with it if it responds to my touch without a pause of a second or more.
Quadrant means nothing really, anyone can get 1k in there and outperform a 2.6k score.
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Hi everyone,
I have question. My result in Quadrant Standard is something about 800. A lot of people have higher result that's mine. There is any method to do SGS faster and get better results or where is problem in my phone ??
if you want higher quadrant scores you need to do a lagfix. the market has one called one click lag fix but it roots your phone. imo quadrant scores arent indicative of real world phone speed. if it feels fast, it is fast. go to the development section and read up on why this pone lags and all the different lag fixes available. but basically samsung uses a slow file system which causes 'lag' but i guess its all relative to what you are used to.
Everything is ok now. Thanks for your help
Coming over from fascinate forums and just wondering how the benchmarks test change when we actually get some froyo. I know they don't matter but it helps show the overall boost in performance so anybody with linpack or quadrant if u don't care please post ur results. Thanks n advance. Don't flame me, this will give u cappy users a chance to brag
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Quadrant scores stay pretty close to the same, mid 900's to low 1000's, linpack clocks in between 13.5 and 15
As has been mentioned in many other threads, Quadrant scores are biased toward Snapdragon processors.
These benchmarks really don't mean anything from one phone to another, but within the same phone model it does give an idea of improvement..
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1842 Quadrant Score after OCLF on Froyo which is great compared to 900 before the fix
This is with RyanZA’s EXT2 Lagfix.
Full Quadrant: 1867 (Saw 67 FPS at one point) This is substantially lower than the 2.1 EXT4 Lagfix, but still twice as high as the stock score of 957. I know Quadrant really doesn’t mean anything.
Benchmark PI: 1445 MS
Linpak:
MFLOPS: 13.809
Time: 6.07 Seconds
Norm Res: 5.68
Precision: 2.22044
The "Billabond1 real life use" benchmark shows performance to be as good or better than 2.1. I went from cognition 2.1 w/ voodoo lagfix to cognition 2.2 w/ oclf. I would say that the performance is about the same, good, and the features in 2.2 make it totally worth the update.
On a fresh install of 2.2 I got 995 on my quadrant score.
When I finished rooting and putting on RyanZA's OCLF, my quadrant went up to 2105.
Never did a linpack
Question: Why Galaxy S seem to run slower in Android 2.2 (Froyo)?
I been google-ing via the net for the answer. But I can't find any answer for it.
I saw in smartphonebenchmarks.com, the quadrant scores drop from 2220 to 980.
While other phones scores seem to improve after the update.
Thanks
The galaxy after froyo update is not slower compared to the eclair version but still has long way to go. Quadrant score earlier probably would have been achieved after applying third party lag fix like voodoo lagfix.
Enspade said:
The galaxy after froyo update is not slower compared to the eclair version but still has long way to go. Quadrant score earlier probably would have been achieved after applying third party lag fix like voodoo lagfix.
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oh ok thx.. but any idea if what would the score like after lagfix is installed?
Forget about benchmark scores, they mean very little if you don't know what they are testing.
Mine is lagging more after official unbranded update as well.. I read that restoring system settings from eclair may be an issue, but there are too many red herrings..
I tried to get information about backup/restore process before updating, but too many opinions and not enough facts..
We need an official guide that traverses smoothly from eclair, including b/r of apps, data and settings..
Samsung seems to forget we used these phones for months and do not want to begin again from factory settings.
XDA has too much info for the average users to make decisions from.
Maybe I will spend the weekend working it out..
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Since you are talking Quadrant-wise.
Applying LagFix on Eclair had a greater effect over the I/O than it does on Froyo.
In Eclair, the I/O with LagFix gets over 7000 score in Quadrant Advanced. Under Froyo, it gets right under 4500.
On the other hand, the CPU score has risen from 900~ to 1300~ from Elcair to Froyo.
Hi Ppl,
I got the official froyo release for Galaxy S India yesterday. Good Good... But wait, is it worth it? I don't know..
Before I upgraded to froyo I had applied the lag fix on 2.1 and the quadrant score showed somewhere at 1700-1800 which is good. Quadrant score on stock showed around 800-900.
Quadrant score on 2.2 stock now shows 925-950. This really pissed me off. I ran another test which is linpack and I got 13 Mflops. I do not understand what's wrong with the froyo update. I read somewhere that 2.2 is not compatible with humming bird processor. Per my understanding 2.2 upgrade should boost the CPU to the next level and the performance should be really good than 2.1.
I was comparing dell streak with galaxy s. I know if I should or not but I just wanted to look at the scores on both. Dell says Streak has a 1 GHz processor and so do Galaxy S. But the linpack score on streak showed 30 Mflops which is way better than Galaxy S which is at 13 Mflops. I really do not understand what the problem here is.
Is there no difference b/w 2.1 and 2.2 on Galaxy S? If yes, 2.2 is a joke I would say.
I am concerned because I still found issues with the froyo update. Its still laggy. I didnt notice much difference b/w 2.1 and 2.2 really
Can anyone help me out with this please?
Thanks,
Ravi
I wouldn't worry too much about quadrant scores, but if your phone is lagging then you probably need to reapply a lag fix. Did you update via Kies? I updated mine a while ago using odin (never had much joy with Kies) and my phone seemed pretty good without a lag fix, I did do a factory reset though before installing. Mines now running spikey's oc rom and oclf and is scoring around 2300 on quadrant, but more importantly the phone is ultra responsive with zero lag
Do a factory reset and reapply a lagfix, you'll get 1600ish quadrant scores again.
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Thanks for the reply, guys. I had read somewhere that the score would be 1600-1800 on stock froyo? Is that not right? Do I still need to apply a lag fix?
And yes. I updated using Kies. I did a factory reset of the phone before and after I update froyo.
Which lag fix do u suggest? Voodoo or OCLF? I guess OCLF uses EXT2 and Voodoo uses EXT4 which is a bit faster than the former right?
who cares about the score, it is all BS
what matter most, is how smooth it runs for you, and when you switch from app to app, and have stuff multitasking in the background
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who cares about the score, it is all BS
what matter most, is how smooth it runs for you, and when you switch from app to app, and have stuff multitasking in the background
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That FACT should be sticky on this forum.
ok.. I am facing a new problem now. I do not know if this is the right thread or not.
After the froyo official update I noticed I could download apps from the market except for the installation process. Some apps get stuck after a complete download and never gets installed
IS there a fix for this?
I had Phoenix rom, decided to go to darkys because it looked better to me. I flashed Darkys, and it looked good and everything, but i entered Quadrant Standard and im getting score of lees than 720, when with phoenix i got 1000 or more, the graphic says that i have less score than a Galaxy S, what went wrong, is this ok, should i not bother myself with this or what?
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I had Phoenix rom, decided to go to darkys because it looked better to me. I flashed Darkys, and it looked good and everything, but i entered Quadrant Standard and im getting score of lees than 720, when with phoenix i got 1000 or more, the graphic says that i have less score than a Galaxy S, what went wrong, is this ok, should i not bother myself with this or what?
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Make sure you flash a good kernel.. SpeedMod K12M or Firebird2..
And check quadrant scores.. Quadrant scores don't mean anything.. DG officially hates it!
I have not tried darkeys but, I would reboot try again. No 2.2.1 rom should be that low.
Quadrants do not really mean anything though
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I had Phoenix rom, decided to go to darkys because it looked better to me. I flashed Darkys, and it looked good and everything, but i entered Quadrant Standard and im getting score of lees than 720, when with phoenix i got 1000 or more, the graphic says that i have less score than a Galaxy S, what went wrong, is this ok, should i not bother myself with this or what?
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While quadrant is not a completely accurate test it can be a useful test to see how the phone performs. A score of 720 probably indicates that something did not take. It's been a while since I have been on Darky's rom but with Cezar's rom and no lagfix I get 1100 quadrant scores which is pretty normal for a 2.2.1 rom without lagfix. Enabling lagfix could bump that to 1300 to 1500 range.
I have gotten 1700 to 1900 scores with overclocking and lagfix before but here's the problem with basing everything off your test score. On 2.2.1 with no lagfix I can't tell a difference in how the phone operates compared to overclocked kernels with lagfix. I can play the same games and watch the same videos and really can't tell a difference. Darky's is a 2.2.1 rom so you should be seeing pretty much the same performance.
Are you noticing any lag? Run the test again to see if the score bumps up?
this will sound stupid, he but i found the problem, with set cpu, i dont know why, but the processor was clocked at 400 mhz, FML!
hernan078 said:
this will sound stupid, he but i found the problem, with set cpu, i dont know why, but the processor was clocked at 400 mhz, FML!
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Hehe nice
As far as Quadrant is concerned, yes in normal cases the quadrant score is pretty meaningless but Im surprised people say that even in this thread. Its meaningless to wonder about getting 1500 instead of 1600, but with scores of 700 clearly something is wrong, and thats exactly what Quadrant *is* useful for, diagnosing performance issues!
Good to see you found the problem already
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I had Phoenix rom, decided to go to darkys because it looked better to me. I flashed Darkys, and it looked good and everything, but i entered Quadrant Standard and im getting score of lees than 720, when with phoenix i got 1000 or more, the graphic says that i have less score than a Galaxy S, what went wrong, is this ok, should i not bother myself with this or what?
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Quadrant doesn't tell the whole story, but I'm running darkys 7.8 and I've got a Quadrant score of 1480+. I was a Cognition junkie until I flashed darkys - I couldn't be more pleased.
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Quadrant doesn't tell the whole story, but I'm running darkys 7.8 and I've got a Quadrant score of 1480+. I was a Cognition junkie until I flashed darkys - I couldn't be more pleased.
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All the 2.2.1-based ROMs are pretty much equally fast.. mostly cause theyre all very close to being stock, the only performance-change is from using a recompiled kernel.
Voodoo seems to be a bit faster than speedmod. 1620 here on DocROM with advanced voodoo, no overclock.