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Rogers Dream vs. HTC Dream (normal?) + noob me.

Alright.
Seriously, whats the deal with the Rogers Dream and the normal Dream? I dont get the difference. Please explain some in detail.
The only thing I've been reading for a while is the DRE2100 or something compared to the normal thing.
seriously. What is rooting?
I have a Rogers Dream and I really want to know where to start playing around with it.
Its sad however that I have to look for threads with "Rogers" tagged on it.
previously, I had an HTC Kaiser, and I played around/flashed it a LOT. and I moved on to a Rogers Dream, I've had it for quite a while, just didn't know where to start.
Thanks

Theres a few minor differences between the 2. The main one is the frequency it runs on. But to get you started understanding everything this is what you need to look at.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519523

Alright. I am so. tired of looking up stuff. I'm not going to do anything yet.
I barely get anything.
What is root for?
what is it used for?
I have used Ubuntu and Fedora a couple of times but, seriously, root was just a command really.
After I root. then what?
Also. I was wondering. can Rogers ever be converted into the DREAM100/DREAM110?. i dont know, just wondering. If that was possible, It would make things very simple for people like me.

I believe that dream100/110 are boards so they could never be converted.
Root is basicly in windows terms- the admin, getting root allows you su like the sudo command in linux. Having root allows you to flash custom roms, nandroid backup, themes, allow deeper hardware access, full privs to the kernel processes of the system, allowing apps to sd, allow you to wipe or activate gps from sms, dentonate nuclear warheads, so on and so on
Have I answer the ? Sufficently enough yet
Oh and root on linux is the same thing and not just a command

da pavinator said:
Alright. I am so. tired of looking up stuff. I'm not going to do anything yet.
I barely get anything.
What is root for?
what is it used for?
I have used Ubuntu and Fedora a couple of times but, seriously, root was just a command really.
After I root. then what?
Also. I was wondering. can Rogers ever be converted into the DREAM100/DREAM110?. i dont know, just wondering. If that was possible, It would make things very simple for people like me.
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Since you're a lazy noob (at least to the G1), check the link in my sig that will answer most of your preliminary questions. Also look in the development forum's stickies, as there is A LOT of information for noobs about rooting (how to do it, and what it's good for, etc.) and flashing SPL, Recovery, and ROMs.

^That noob thread should be stickied. lol
So now, I am following instructions.
and I am a bit confused.
I am right now setting up my pc for rooting
http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/device.html
It says
Setting up a Device for Development said:
Step 1.) Declare your application as "debuggable" in your Android Manifest.
In Eclipse, you can do this from the Application tab when viewing the Manifest (on the right side, set Debuggable to true). Otherwise, in the AndroidManifest.xml file, add android:debuggable="true" to the <application> element.
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What exactly does this mean?
Which application.
I have learned that AndroidManifest.xml is used for every application
I have the AndroidSDK on my computer, and I have also installed the usb driver
And when I searched in there, boy I got lots of results for "AndroidManifest.xml"
A little help?
Thanks a lot.
EDIT-
See, while here, I just had a simple question
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4280573#post4280573
HyeProfile said:
Rooting the Rogers Dream
3.Install the proper drivers for your device, and make sure you can mount the microSD card and access it from your computer
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Does this mean, being able to access the MicroSD card straight from you computer with an adapter/card reader? or though the phone?
I can access it from the phone btw

Follow the simple root link in my signature. Takes you to a thread specific to root on a Roger's dream along with a crowd of other canucks executing the same procedure.

A 1gig swap, way way overkill and completely useless to have anywhere near that much

Do's and Don'ts of rooting?

I'll be rooting tomorrow. Any thing I sure make sure not to do? Any certain apps not to try or stuff that's really successful?

Don't Brick it.
Check the firmware that you have .... if it is 1.4.0 or newer, you need to make sure the root method applies.
I don't have a NC, but want to get one over the Holidays. I was reading this information on NookDevs.com

cal3thousand said:
Check the firmware that you have .... if it is 1.4.0 or newer, you need to make sure the root method applies.
I don't have a NC, but want to get one over the Holidays. I was reading this information on NookDevs.com
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1.4.0?! I think that's for the Nook, not the NC. NC is only 1.0.0 with MAYBE 1.0.1, but that's not confirmed yet.
I followed the Windows 7 guide on the wiki, I think it's the best "complete" guide available and has more information as well as being updated than some of the other posts. Ultimately, you're going to be doing a lot of reading as I don't think there is a definitive guide on what to do post-root. Such as enable superuser, and how to install apps (adb install (appname.apk)

Sirchuk said:
1.4.0?! I think that's for the Nook, not the NC. NC is only 1.0.0 with MAYBE 1.0.1, but that's not confirmed yet.
I followed the Windows 7 guide on the wiki, I think it's the best "complete" guide available and has more information as well as being updated than some of the other posts. Ultimately, you're going to be doing a lot of reading as I don't think there is a definitive guide on what to do post-root. Such as enable superuser, and how to install apps (adb install (appname.apk)
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Thanks for clarifying that...
So the phantom supposed root ruining update is 1.0.1
Does that affect new device root opportunities? I'm trying to get all my gifts in B&N giftcards and want to make sure its not all in vain.

cal3thousand said:
Thanks for clarifying that...
So the phantom supposed root ruining update is 1.0.1
Does that affect new device root opportunities? I'm trying to get all my gifts in B&N giftcards and want to make sure its not all in vain.
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There's only been one report of it so far, so no one's sure about details. 1.0.1 was the reported updated version though.

Yeah we really have no idea, and even if 1.0.1 is real and does unroot, we don't know if it's possible to re-root using a different method.
Honestly, nobody can tell you one way or the other. Risk it, and hope the next release gets rooted (as most usually are) or get something more generic, like bestbuy certificates and buy it from there instead.
That way, if it is made un-rootable, you can still get something besides books.

Sirchuk said:
That way, if it is made un-rootable, you can still get something besides books.
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As far as I can tell, the worst that BN can do is make the stock firmware really unpleasant to root. We should always be able to boot into our own custom fw from SD.

Sirchuk said:
Yeah we really have no idea, and even if 1.0.1 is real and does unroot, we don't know if it's possible to re-root using a different method.
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It will be trivial to re-root an "upgraded" device. Trivial != legal though.
Trivial == taking a dd image from a rooted 1.0.0 device and applying it to a device that has 1.0.0+ (B&N's attempt to stop rooting).
In less that 10 mins, I can take the nooter image that folks are using to root 1.0.0 devices and turn it into a "flash back to 1.0.0 + rooted" image. It's going to go from 40M to ~5G though since I would need to have a dd image of an already rooted device included.
It's as simple as overwriting the partitions that hold the OS with an image that has root enabled.
The problem here is that there are portions of the image that are NOT GPL but are proprietary B&N software. That makes this very doable but also very illegal which is why the original rooters didn't just distribute an image that would turn your phone into a completely rooted device with all kinds of nifty apps installed, tuned and tweaked for you. Its all about not going to jail ya know!

new to this, how to root?

Hello,
i am new to the andriod world (few days) well i decided to get a samsung captivate i used to have an iphone, i was wondering if there is a recent list of the steps on how to root this phone? not assuming that i know a step or more. i researched all day today and found some that were pretty good but some didnt work for some reason. i also didnt know i need it the samsung drivers so this is what i mean by not skipping a step or assuming i know a step. thanks in advance.

droid_07 said:
Hello,
i am new to the andriod world (few days) well i decided to get a samsung captivate i used to have an iphone, i was wondering if there is a recent list of the steps on how to root this phone? not assuming that i know a step or more. i researched all day today and found some that were pretty good but some didnt work for some reason. i also didnt know i need it the samsung drivers so this is what i mean by not skipping a step or assuming i know a step. thanks in advance.
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There are several how to videos you can find. Look for one click root if you only want to root. It is about as easy as you get. It was created by TGA Gunman. Or you can search for the Clockworkmod update.zip and place that in the root of your SD card. Then you would be able to install a Rom without actually needing to root your phone first.
Also please make sure to post questions in the proper section. You will have the wolves after you for posting a general question in dev

Root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739304

You need to spend a few days/weeks/months reading every sticky post, FAQ, and dev thread before you even think about proceeding.

kegobeer said:
You need to spend a few days/weeks/months reading every sticky post, FAQ, and dev thread before you even think about proceeding.
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+1
captivates are difficult to brick, but not impossible

HTC VIVID Super User Problems....

So I am a new person and therefor can not post this in the development thread under the forum where I feel it would belong with the other root related questions.... So i followed the SUPER GUIDE to root my phone (Thank you so much Slapshot and PirateGhost, I was beginning to regret not getting a skyrocket until I found your thread). My super user is running into an issue I can not seem to fix.....
Maybe this is simple or maybe I really messed something up....
Basically none of my apps have root anymore (they did at one point and to my knowledge I change nothing...)
When I go to the Super User app to update my binaries and hopefully get any issues resolved I am greeted by the following error message in the update log: "Failed to find currently installed SU binary. Update cannot continue"
Is there a resolution for this? I have not found anyone even running into the same issue on the Vivid.....
A little nervous.... I didnt have near this many issues rooting my ATRIX and modding the living daylights out of that.

Have you checked with Root Checker Basic to see if you even have Root? If you didn't follow the Super Guide step by step your phone could have relocked after you turned your phone off/on.
If it still fails to update you could try SuperUser Update Fixer.

Yes I have check with root checker.
This may be a dumb question but how do I uninstall Superuser? When I go to the typical application management it does not give me the option. I have done an install again to overwrite the files and nothing changed there.
I followed the instructions step by step (though obviously I messed up somewhere...)
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using XDA App

Kraizk said:
So I am a new person and therefor can not post this in the development thread under the forum where I feel it would belong with the other root related questions.... So i followed the SUPER GUIDE to root my phone (Thank you so much Slapshot and PirateGhost, I was beginning to regret not getting a skyrocket until I found your thread). My super user is running into an issue I can not seem to fix.....
Maybe this is simple or maybe I really messed something up....
Basically none of my apps have root anymore (they did at one point and to my knowledge I change nothing...)
When I go to the Super User app to update my binaries and hopefully get any issues resolved I am greeted by the following error message in the update log: "Failed to find currently installed SU binary. Update cannot continue"
Is there a resolution for this? I have not found anyone even running into the same issue on the Vivid.....
A little nervous.... I didnt have near this many issues rooting my ATRIX and modding the living daylights out of that.
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Interesting... maybe your root didn't stick. We had a little trouble with that before but pirateghost fixed the CWM ROOT zip. You have a working CWM Recovery, correct?
In the superguide, I have a second option for root in case the first doesn't work. In your case, go ahead and try the second option. The one involving the supertool. That should get you perm root. If that doesn't even work, then we might have to put you back to stock and go at it again.
EDIT: BEFORE TRYING THE SUPERTOOL, try flashing the new CWM ROOT VER2 zip from CWM recovery and see if root sticks.

Slapshot, thank you for checking the General Thread, I really do appreciate that. I have tried both methods multiple times since the root failure seeing as so many people said they had to run the methods multiple times to make them stick (this admittedly may be part of the issue). The most recent one has been the CWM ROOT VER2. Still no dice. Is there a method to remove and re install super user? Or am I reading into the error too literally and instead I just basically do not have root.

Kraizk said:
Slapshot, thank you for checking the General Thread, I really do appreciate that. I have tried both methods multiple times since the root failure seeing as so many people said they had to run the methods multiple times to make them stick (this admittedly may be part of the issue). The most recent one has been the CWM ROOT VER2. Still no dice. Is there a method to remove and re install super user? Or am I reading into the error too literally and instead I just basically do not have root.
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No problem. At this point I think you may just not have root... but first, go ahead and go into bootloader (power off, then power on while holding power and vol down). Does your device say unlocked?

*Just a clarification*
You have to unroot your phone to get rid of it Idk why I put uninstall/reinstall earlier...still out there from last night I guess.

slapshot30 said:
No problem. At this point I think you may just not have root... but first, go ahead and go into bootloader (power off, then power on while holding power and vol down). Does your device say unlocked?
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Yes the device still says unlocked. That was one of the first things I checked... Haha....
As I said ive flashed the rooted CWM and it says it went over successfully.
If i use the Zerg exploit it still seems to go over successfully (I realize this has a tenancy to mess with internal storage and only provide a temp root but i do not even get that temp root).
How would I unroot my device? Do you mean flash to stock and relock my boot loader?
As I said I have flashed several devices in the past (Atrix, eee pad transformer, HTC Inspire, HTC DINC, SAMSUNG GALAXY S T-Mobile) but I am not completely up to date on all of the technical terms...

Kraizk said:
Yes the device still says unlocked. That was one of the first things I checked... Haha....
As I said ive flashed the rooted CWM and it says it went over successfully.
If i use the Zerg exploit it still seems to go over successfully (I realize this has a tenancy to mess with internal storage and only provide a temp root but i do not even get that temp root).
How would I unroot my device? Do you mean flash to stock and relock my boot loader?
As I said I have flashed several devices in the past (Atrix, eee pad transformer, HTC Inspire, HTC DINC, SAMSUNG GALAXY S T-Mobile) but I am not completely up to date on all of the technical terms...
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Yes, I mean relock the bootloader and back to stock rom, then try again. Do you know how to get back to stock?

slapshot30 said:
Yes, I mean relock the bootloader and back to stock rom, then try again. Do you know how to get back to stock?
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actually that one I do not know how to do... I realize this is probably somewhat annoying because I am sure you have said how to do it before.... Some help would be greatly appreciated

Kraizk said:
actually that one I do not know how to do... I realize this is probably somewhat annoying because I am sure you have said how to do it before.... Some help would be greatly appreciated
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I haven't told anyone how to do it surprisingly, and I'm more than happy to help . I was honestly thinking about adding reverting back to stock to the superguide, and I think I just may do that. Here is the link. Pirateghost is the man.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20821226&postcount=4

Thank you for this and all of your help, people like you and ghostpirate are why i still feel like I can turn to the XDA community. I will try this firs thing in the morning and give an update on how things went. I would try it tonight but lets be honest, its the 1st of the year and the last thing I need to be doing is messing with technology.....

Kraizk said:
Thank you for this and all of your help, people like you and ghostpirate are why i still feel like I can turn to the XDA community. I will try this firs thing in the morning and give an update on how things went. I would try it tonight but lets be honest, its the 1st of the year and the last thing I need to be doing is messing with technology.....
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It's no problem, this isn't a dumb question or easy issue by any means. If the method I directed to you doesn't work, let me know. There is another way to do it without all the code.

slapshot30 said:
I haven't told anyone how to do it surprisingly, and I'm more than happy to help . I was honestly thinking about adding reverting back to stock to the superguide, and I think I just may do that. Here is the link. Pirateghost is the man.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20821226&postcount=4
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Worked perfectly. I flashed it back to stock using the thread you linked me to. Then I did the CWM Root method and so far so good. I appreciate all of your help

Nice, I'm glad you were able to get everything working.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using xda premium

[Q] Rooting my Captivate Glide

Ok, so, first off, yes, as I keep being told by the forums I read, I am a noob. I understand, and respect that. That's not the issue.
So, I have followed the guide that's found here, and I have the Clockwork mod installed, as when I turn on my phone, and press down, it says I have it.
I -had- my phone rooted in the past, and then -finally- the official 4.0.4 update came out. I upgraded from my old rooted image to the new image, and figured I'd wait to see if someone would post instructions on how to update this version, unless I am doing something wrong.
I am sure that I am, or I missed something somewhere. Again, I have -no- idea what I am talking about. I don't claim I do.
So... I try to install Superuser-3.2-RC2 -and- RC3-ARM-signed.zip, as I was advised that may work via pressing power+down, I get this:
E:failed to verify whole-file signature
E:signature verification failed!
I am not sure what I am doing wrong. I copied the file over to the root of the SD card, and all that jazz.
So, is someone ready to point out the error in my method, or more likely, tell me I am an idiot?
-Haz

Hazarath said:
Ok, so, first off, yes, as I keep being told by the forums I read, I am a noob. I understand, and respect that. That's not the issue.
So, I have followed the guide that's found here, and I have the Clockwork mod installed, as when I turn on my phone, and press down, it says I have it.
I -had- my phone rooted in the past, and then -finally- the official 4.0.4 update came out. I upgraded from my old rooted image to the new image, and figured I'd wait to see if someone would post instructions on how to update this version, unless I am doing something wrong.
I am sure that I am, or I missed something somewhere. Again, I have -no- idea what I am talking about. I don't claim I do.
So... I try to install Superuser-3.2-RC2 -and- RC3-ARM-signed.zip, as I was advised that may work via pressing power+down, I get this:
E:failed to verify whole-file signature
E:signature verification failed!
I am not sure what I am doing wrong. I copied the file over to the root of the SD card, and all that jazz.
So, is someone ready to point out the error in my method, or more likely, tell me I am an idiot?
-Haz
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First time I hear of a Captivate Glide!? I *guess* they use the same firmware.
I'm not sure if superoneclick works for ICS but you could look into that.
EDIT: Look below.

I don't really want to give you any advice because I've never used the captivate glide and I would advise against using any software in this forum. There is a forum for the glide though which would probably be the best place to get your answer. I would link you to it but I'm on my phone at the moment.
The phones are similar but still different enough that rooting methods and custom kernels probably won't work the same.
Sent from my SGH-I897 using xda app-developers app

m1batt1 said:
I don't really want to give you any advice because I've never used the captivate glide and I would advise against using any software in this forum. There is a forum for the glide though which would probably be the best place to get your answer. I would link you to it but I'm on my phone at the moment.
The phones are similar but still different enough that rooting methods and custom kernels probably won't work the same.
Sent from my SGH-I897 using xda app-developers app
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Ah good point, though it was only a deviation of the captivate.

BWolf56 said:
Ah good point, though it was only a deviation of the captivate.
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True but the fact that it has a slide out keyboard concerns me. Any software not made for it would probably render the keyboard unusable.
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m1batt1 said:
True but the fact that it has a slide out keyboard concerns me. Any software not made for it would probably render the keyboard unusable.
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See, things like that is why I posted to start with... I know I am a noob, and I think I ran into a unique situation, so, that's why I posted... I would of just used good 'ol Google, but, I really just prefer to keep it on here... seeing as the guide here is well done, and I think I could trust it.
..that, and I am a bit afraid of some answers I may get elsewhere.
Anywho, any ideas how to get SU to work around this? I remember reading somewhere that there's an option to allow un-signed roms to load.. is that doable here, or better yet, advisable? I.E., might brick something? I love this phone, after all. Just... hate the bloatware that made it's return. x.x
-Haz

Hazarath said:
See, things like that is why I posted to start with... I know I am a noob, and I think I ran into a unique situation, so, that's why I posted... I would of just used good 'ol Google, but, I really just prefer to keep it on here... seeing as the guide here is well done, and I think I could trust it.
..that, and I am a bit afraid of some answers I may get elsewhere.
Anywho, any ideas how to get SU to work around this? I remember reading somewhere that there's an option to allow un-signed roms to load.. is that doable here, or better yet, advisable? I.E., might brick something? I love this phone, after all. Just... hate the bloatware that made it's return. x.x
-Haz
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There is, the thing is that it'S different from phone to phone so you'll only get a real answer over on the Glide side :/

Hazarath,
Here is a good place to start...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25355727
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using xda premium

4-2ndtwin said:
Hazarath,
Here is a good place to start...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25355727
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I followed the instructions from that guide to root the phone, that's where I get that error. It won't accept an un-signed ROM.
..and, I was gonna post on the forum posts that would help with this more directly, but, this is my 3rd post; not allowed to pose in Dev forums yet.
-Haz

UPDATE:
Someone earlier suggested I run Super One Click, I think... well, I run it, and I tell it to 'Root' It says 'Missing driver! Install?' I click 'Yes' A pop up comes up, 'No more data' then another, and I click yes, same thing. Just tossing that in there...
-Haz

Hazarath said:
UPDATE:
Someone earlier suggested I run Super One Click, I think... well, I run it, and I tell it to 'Root' It says 'Missing driver! Install?' I click 'Yes' A pop up comes up, 'No more data' then another, and I click yes, same thing. Just tossing that in there...
-Haz
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Did you check if it was ICS compatible?

BWolf56 said:
Did you check if it was ICS compatible?
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I am not sure... prolly not. Ah, well, back to square one... any other ideas?
-Haz

Hold it, hold it, slow down.
First of all, the Captivate and Captivate Glide have nothing in common besides their name. Different SoC, different NAND, different screen, different board layout. NOTHING is interoperable between them short of, well, flashing tools like Odin.
The Glide has its own section. Come join us, we're fun people and we just got CM10.1 a few weeks ago!
-E- Also, for the Glide you install ClockworkMod first, THEN root. That's just SOP for devices that ship with the bootloader already unlocked.

same problem
Im having the same problem with error codes when i try to use superuser
Has anyone found a solution?
I have the at&t model and factory unlocked if it helps

Mike-88 said:
Im having the same problem with error codes when i try to use superuser
Has anyone found a solution?
I have the at&t model and factory unlocked if it helps
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If you have a Glide, you're in the wrong section.
If you have a Captivate though, be more clear about your issue. What error do you get? What steps did you take? Followed any guide?