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I have been using dutty's rom with cube for the tilt and maybe I just don't get it by why is anyone putting it on their kaiser?
Don't get me wrong, I can see the point of it on the touch but why with the kaiser?
Yes, it is kinda cool to show it off to other people but it is such a waste to use. For example, slide finger over and over till you find the internet button and hit that OR just one quick hit for the internet button on the front of the phone.
Use the same cube moves to get to contacts or just one quick click on the front of the htc rom.
Using the cube is MUCH more time consuming then just using the phone as it was meant to be. Is everyone just so caught up with the "wow factor" of the touch cube or am I missing something?
Wow factor... It's rather retarded IMO
I agree with argo. At some point you still have to whip out the stylus to input information, doesn't matter if you used the cube to get you to contacts or if you used the hardware key to get to contacts. I've installed some of the finger friendly add-ons (not the cube) and it helps with simple taks, but if I'm opening an app, I usually still do it from the stylus. Old habits die hard...
yup, eye candy.
Mostly Eye Candy...
..but also for me, it's an attempt to have a fully functional device with one hand/one finger---without any need for the stylus.
With THE CUBE, FTOUCHFLO, Home Plugin, FFF, OtO, TekSoft FingerTouch and a few others, I don't remember the last time I actually had to whip out the stylus...
...oh WAIT! It was earlier today!!!
Oh well!!
TEC
I am using Touch-Commander simply to multiply the number of contacts I can speed-dial while driving without scrolling down an endless list. I also like the fact that I can SMS my faves as well as call them from their icon.
I was playing with the HTC Photo Album, but it is just not as efficient at finding the pics you want as is the Resco app.
Of all of the "touchy-feely" apps that have come along recently, FFF is, IMHO the one really fantastic one.
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Of all of the "touchy-feely" apps that have come along recently, FFF is, IMHO the one really fantastic one.
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I also agree that the Cube, and the obsession around it, is kinda overkill. Functionally, I don't see the sube as an advancement. Yes, the other parts of TouchFLO are valuable to me, and the recent creations to make the phone more finger-friendly otherwise like FFF are also useful to me. But the cube? I could do without.
I almost think the general obsession with the cube became more of a Mt Everest type of "we have to climb that mountain" quest more than anything else. Yes, its eye candy, but to be honest, its not even that great of eye candy. The iPhone "eye candy-wise" has it topped by far, and believe me, I'm not an Apple fanboy in any way shape or form. So, congrats to those who were able to scale the mountain. I envy your skill and your determination. Really, I do.
As for the recent programs that I like and think are functionally great, and to be honest minimize to very large degree the need for me to use my stylus are:
- FFF (easily the greatest, little, free, simple programs ever IMO)
- HTC Home
- S2U2 (much better at locking and yes its pretty also )
- PCM Keyboard (not the contacts prog, but the keyboard)
- Opera Mini 4
- Google Maps and Live Search
- PocketPlayer 3.5
Just my 2 cents. Honestly, since I installed these apps, I go days without even touching my stylus...Only when I do something non-routine, would I need to do so.
i think it would serve alot more purpose if we were able to customize it, maybe we can, but i know i have no idea how to. half the apps in it i never use. bout all i use it for is for the fav. people side. just a quick flick of the finger and i can free up some space on home screen
I seldom used the cube...on my old device, herald p4350
But I cooked roms, and ofcourse the cube was something ppl would say "wow" to, and then tell me how impressed they are..blahblah.
Some ppl drive stick, some automatic.....a matter of taste I guess.
Well, I think the cube is a cool invention, but the consept has a long road ahead before I will implement it again in my own rom.
But im sure HTC has a plan, and im sure they have many cool apps waiting, or in development that will make our devices more and more independent of the stylus.
HTC is spitting out cool devices faster then my granpa changed underwear....And im pretty sure all the new future features will be quite available for us all as they come.
I heard a rumor they are developing a touch type calendar, operated "similar" to htc album and some part the random access, but dont ask how that will operate, cant picture it exactly, but im sure its fun
Another rumor I heard is that htc are making a new innovative web browser, witch can operate over wifi/bluetooth against activesync/mobile center, zooming like htc album, flicking your finger left-right gestures to move forward and back..there was something about support for streaming many types of fileformats directly in the browser...
But...its just rumors I heard, I have not seen any proof of this anywhere...
Hoping someone has heard similar rumors????
And this is the one thing I like about the iPhone. Is I think it was sort of a wake up call for software developers to think of new programs and new ways to interact with existing functionality. So I thank them for spawning alot of disucssion and ideas about how to make a convergence device better and more practical/usable!
Now, if we can just get HTC to implement a screen as nice and sensitive as the one on that other thing...
I installed the cube successfully and gave it up twice. The main reason is that when I touch a small fav photo on the dialer of the HTC Home pluggin, the call goes out immediately to the ONE phone (mobile or home or whatever) of the person that I have assigned it to. With the cube, it just goes to the contact, and then I have to press the specific phone of the two or three assigned to the contact to make the call. Overall (one stroke to turn on the cube, another to get to the fav icons of the dialer, another to get to the right phone choice) it takes three keystrokes to make a call versus just one in the HTC Home plugin. Cube is nice, but not convenient.
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well I think everyone is correct it is eye candy it is mt everest and can be (or is now less effective) the cube is kinda a waste of memory ill agree. but the kaiser has only been out for 10-11 weeks that's it. the cube now is trying to catch up to what the elf is. with the elf the cube and the on screen keyboard is very effective. I've played with it. right now the elfs cube is a touch snapier (probaly because of the bugs still in there). but lets take that contacts situation from before htc home is 2 moves and 3 on the cube now. but what if u edited the registry so it dials mr jones mobile instead of mr jones subscreen (its been done already look in the elf thread). then u set the cube to always launch the contacts page (not done yet but the cube gods are discussing it). when the cubes final it will probaly behave better and quicker. so half a swipe up and the cubes launched and u land your finger on your contact. now your action took one quick fluent movement and it looks cool. not only that the original htc cube is three faces not too exciting but what if they make it a real cube with 6 sides. along with some original apps as previously discussed we might be very close to being without a stylus
In my opinion, the cube has some advantages. For example somtimes I wanna write my girlfiend an SMS, somtimes I want to call her, so for me the Contact Menu ist no disadvantage. Another example is, that the move with my thumb to open the cube is much more easier, than klick the smaller icons on the home screen. And the Cube opens on the Side it was closed. So in my case, I only need one thumb move to get to my contacts.
The Cube is 2008. No cube is oldsk00l
Now but I just like the design of it. I personaly only use the first screen and sometimes the contact screen. But IE, Comm, E-mail etc I never use cause i have keys that open those things.
Hmmmm....I do find it weird that there are people complaining about the cube on the Tytn II simply because last time I checked...it didn't ship with the cube
If you don't like, you don't have to go through the hassle of putting it on your device. Simple as that. Some people like it for the "wow" factor...good for them. Sometimes when you pay a lot of money for something, you may want to show of a bit (I know I do lol)
Personally, I use Dutty's rom with built in cube and I use the cube quite a lot for media such as my photo's (as it directs me to HTC Album which I like a lot), Video (which directs me to TCMP player) and my Music (Audio manager)
Anything that makes you feel good about owning something, even if it's purely aesthetic, can't be a bad thing.
Which is why I'll never get an i-Phone. I played with my mates one the other day and although its very seductive, its too limited fot me and I quickly got bored.
Personalisation is the key!
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I agree, I still don't have a Tytn II, I have a HTC Touch, I never use the cube, I only show it to people.
its all 4 show..
cube off = the way to roll.
Yeah, I stay away from roms with the cube
I like the cube!!
Is interesting to see the comments, because I actually like the cube for a few reasons...
But before that a little side comment. The cube (at the moment) is still probably aesthetics over functionality but you have to wonder if this is such a bad thing...look at the iphone - the ultimate example of style over true substance. It had my wife's total attention for 20 minutes in the O2 shop the other day - something my PPC had never done. Now that might be a comment on my wife but the sales figures would suggest otherwise
I'm using slither's cube and what it has done for me is allowed me to clean up my today screen of all those icons I used just enough to want to have close but not every 5 minutes.
The end result is my whole device runs faster for a few thumbswipes worth of effort.
As the cube develops it will get better and functionality and aesthetics will improve because you can bet the iphone wont stand still and we musn't either because I CANT STAND APPLE and the tripe they pour out.
Rant over. I'll get my coat now
so I downloaded the latest diamond album to my kaiser to try it out and I like it but I can't rotate the picture the same way I could with the htcalbum... So I looked at the help file and saw that to rotate the picture all I had to do was turn the phone.. WOAH.. but didn't work... obv. I've been doing some research and it seems possible that we could trigger the screen rotation by turning the phone. It uses the camera to figure out your position.. Now I'm not nearly good enough at this stuff to figure it out on my own, but I did find a little game that is supposed to move the snake based on the movement of the camera, this might be a good place to start, but I couldn't even get the game working.. it's called "CC snake" (attached below) Looking for some ideas, maybe ripping out the controls from the game is a place to start?
http://www.clutch-productions.com/ccsnake.cab
I can confirm that this program runs on my old SDA (wm5 smartphone)... still get an error when trying it on my tilt
Dunno if this is relevant or not but a short while ago, i saw a website where someone had used the camera on a Nokia mobile (i think the phone was a 6600) to create a wireless optical mouse. You had the screen in the palm of your hand and the two hardware buttons were left click and right click. I believe the data was sent over bluetooth. It probably uses a similar technique to work out the direction of travel as you would use to work out orientation.
I haven't been able to find the original website but i did find this
www.comp.lancs.ac.uk/~sheridaj/publications/2005/PERMIDPointingDevices.pdf
which seems to be a paper about using a mobile phone camera as a pointing device. I haven't read it through as i'm at work but it could be useful?
I seem to remember the original site having code samples. If i find it, ill post the link.
(Tried to upload the pdf but the file is too big, sorry )
Edit: I believe i found some more info
here are some more links:
http://www.pyrofersprojects.com/blog/?page_id=41 - This guy reckons he's done it but he's not giving out the code
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT1h_ITR0G0 - The video i found, the related videos section looks like it might have some answers.
Please stop me if this isn't helpful!!
video looks bullocks...
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video looks bullocks...
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yeah, it would have been more convincing if he showed the phone actually moving the cursor although the comments link to slashdot (I didn't read the article tho)
this seems to be interesting, too
http://www.gesturetekmobile.com/
http://youtube.com/watch?v=v0srY37kkMw
you can control via motion - that's unquestionable. The problem with the 'mouse' concept is that the cam is right up against the table, so there's no light and hence no contrast, so, you can't lock.
if it is true though - i's cool, but in my mind, pointless. why not use a Mouse instead?
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=v0srY37kkMw
you can control via motion - that's unquestionable. The problem with the 'mouse' concept is that the cam is right up against the table, so there's no light and hence no contrast, so, you can't lock.
if it is true though - i's cool, but in my mind, pointless. why not use a Mouse instead?
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according to the guy's site, its for replacing a travel mouse or if you need a spare! pretty cool imo but i agree about the light source. Theres something not right about that video, did you check the others?
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according to the guy's site, its for replacing a travel mouse or if you need a spare! pretty cool imo but i agree about the light source. Theres something not right about that video, did you check the others?
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ok, here's what he says.
"Things didnt go entirely smoothly of course. The first thing everybody is probably saying is, but the camera only shows black when its flat on the mousepad! You are of course right, Light is needed. My temporary solution is to hold the phone about .6cm above the pad, letting light in the side. My camera picks up enough to see at this distance."
don't see him do that in the video, and the window which he moves on the screen stops for a couple of seconds right before the camera points at the phone. that's why i said it's bullocks. i'm no programmer, we've done a couple of games for eyeToy, so i know you need light and contrast. (that's obvious) notice in the link i posted the guys were wearing contrasting, flat t-shirts. (Blue t-shirt/yellow block etc) not sure that Monster of a camera on that Nokia can handle patternless black surface (mousepad from the video, even at 6cm).
EDIT : Ok - just noticed he sais .6cm , not 6 .
so, half a cm... .. i don't know...
anyway - i'm open minded... might as well be true.
so has anyone been able to get the game ccsnake to work on their kaiser? might be a place to start.
what about using a glow in the dark material as a mouse pad ?
All the videos I've seen show the UI being used with the finger? Are there any every day tasks that you can't do using the TF3D UI? I fully accept that 3rd party apps may require the stylus as to some obscure settings under WM so I'm really after any every day type tasks.
TIA
to be honest, I never use the stylus anymore!
Thought that was an ear cleaner lol
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to be honest, I never use the stylus anymore!
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The same here!!!
Yea.. ever since I got the Cruise, I hardly used the stylus!
Same thing with the Diamond. Only for scribbling notes...
I use the stylus on the diamond quite a bit actually...mainly because even with all those tweaks to tf3d...its still a bit laggy imo ie when i go to close programs from the task manager i use the stylus...sometimes i just find it easier to use than say my finger....not quite used to the touchscreen with my fingers.
Soft-reset!
i think in the week and a half i have had this thing, i've only used the stylus for soft resetting as chainfire has said, and occasional letters on the full qwerty where i hadn't aligned the screen properly.
i find that after a bit of practice, youcan do pretty much anything on this thing with your fingers or in my case a thumb, the touchflo seems to allow for a little inaccuracy in that regard
I use it to click on those really teeny buttons like the X and task manager.
sometimes it just gets frustrating, on one hand they call it a TOUCH diamond and yet the user interface is not *as* consistent as it should be for full finger input only.
styluslessness...
Im the same, ever since Ive had the Ameo ive not really used the stylus on phones, the more i dont have the use it the better.
The touchflo3D does make things alot easier and alot of it seems to make sense how the ui works, rather than having to revert back to the standard windows mobile interface. All it needed was bigger buttons! Now theres a thought! hehe.
So far, touch diamond = all good!
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Soft-reset!
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WTF is with the really difficut to reach soft reset button?
And from using Mark's one for about 10 minuted, I didn't need the stylus once, and thats pretty amazing considering I used my stylus loads on my Elfin.
Rory
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If thats aimed at me then ive soft resetted the phone a good few times. Its not as laggy as it was before the tweaks to tf3d...the tweaks really did help but i have absolutely no qualms about using the stylus to make my way around the phone.
I use the stylus when i need to get somewhere quick.
Eg
- i need to make an urgent phone call to someone who isnt in my recent call list, Using your finger you'll probably dial someone else by mistake
- To send a text message quickly, without messing around deleteating letters and correcting the T9.
- For navigating outside of touch flow.
Its a great phone, but the screen sensativity isnt great, and to be honest its inconsistant - better in the middle, and worse at the sides. So its too easy to select the wrong thing. Especially in touchflo when scrolling etc.
I use it for pretty much all text entry - emails, SMS, notes, etc.
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Actually I try to use the stylus whenever I can cuz i hate fingerprints on the screen.. yuck.
My main idea was to buy an HD2.. My father travelled (HTC almost dont exists in my country) and I asked him to buy me the HD2. He came with the Hd7 and I was really surprised (There were no more HD2, and it was just 30 dolars less than the 7). I liked it a lot,but in the moment I tried to download an app from the market or pass music via zune, I hated wp7!
Its not that the OS is bad, is just new. I think that the phone is good too, but I dont really like the softkeys, cuz they are really easy to touch and everyone who picks the phone, enters at least 3 times to Bing search. Almost I do sometimes..
I just dont know if my fathers decition was ok, but one day i think I should sell it and buy me the HD2, or even an DesireHD, but others days i love my phone.. IDK what to think right now.. What do you think?
I've had an HD2 for awhile and even though I never unlocked, jail broken, or used any ROM's to use different operating systems (android, winmo7, etc) I do find that HD7 is overall an improvement. Mostly too cause is has a lot of room to grow. HD2 was awesome but it had limits. No flash support and with adobe not working on any for winmo 6.5 (even though I was told it was by the retailer -.-), I had to get WP7 phone. The only downside I have found with the HD7 so far (well downsides that matter the most) are few and far.
1. No Micro SD slot... well not one that's easily accessible. I usually don't tamper with the phone, but I have seen and looked into tutorials on expanding to a 32g card and the hardest thing about it is... buying the SD Card. Those things are fricken' expensive!!
2. Limited customization. The interface doesn't let you customize it as much as its predecessor the "HD2". Like having your own wallpaper (other then the lock screen), but I find the interface it does have very appealing anyway. Simple, classy, easy to use, and very fluent in switching between the screens.
3. Settings. The settings are very limited. Not much you can change, but I do plan on seeing a lot of updates.
4. Loading Apps and Music. Even through Zune is a wonderful program, I hated being dependent on a third party program to load on my music, pics, apps, and what not. I detested iTunes!! I soon realized though, once you understand how it works, it is a lot more organizable.
Not all the bad stuff is out, this is what I love about the HD7 compared to HD2.
1. No more front keys. Hate keys. Just another crevice for junk to get into or part to get broken, or space for a liquid to leak into.
2. Windows Phone 7 OS. To be able to properly use this without having to ROM it is a big thing for people who can't afford to brick their phone. Though the HD2 has ways to implement other OS's, people like me rather just stick with whats installed for safety.
3. The kickstand. Duhh!! Got tired of using the space between the numbers and function keys to watch a movie. Plus is kinda works like protection for the camera too.
4. Dedicated Camera Key. The tap screen to take a picture made taking a picture a chore for me, because I would shake the picture right as i was taking it.
5. Improve App Store. Being able to install, download, and buy apps without having to be on the phone to do it saves me a lot of time. My land line will always be faster then my data line on my phone.
6. Up To Date Info. Last but not least is the start page. On one simple face you can see all your updates from Facebook, email, messages, apps updates, and probably more. The Facebook app for HD2 was a mess, and the email and messaging updates were boring and to simple. HD7 hyped it big time. I love it.
This is all my opinion, but it is new and expect a lot to happen. Especially once Adobe releases flash support.
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I've had an HD2 for awhile and even though I never unlocked, jail broken, or used any ROM's to use different operating systems (android, winmo7, etc) I do find that HD7 is overall an improvement. Mostly too cause is has a lot of room to grow. HD2 was awesome but it had limits. No flash support and with adobe not working on any for winmo 6.5 (even though I was told it was by the retailer -.-), I had to get WP7 phone. The only downside I have found with the HD7 so far (well downsides that matter the most) are few and far.
1. No Micro SD slot... well not one that's easily accessible. I usually don't tamper with the phone, but I have seen and looked into tutorials on expanding to a 32g card and the hardest thing about it is... buying the SD Card. Those things are fricken' expensive!!
2. Limited customization. The interface doesn't let you customize it as much as its predecessor the "HD2". Like having your own wallpaper (other then the lock screen), but I find the interface it does have very appealing anyway. Simple, classy, easy to use, and very fluent in switching between the screens.
3. Settings. The settings are very limited. Not much you can change, but I do plan on seeing a lot of updates.
4. Loading Apps and Music. Even through Zune is a wonderful program, I hated being dependent on a third party program to load on my music, pics, apps, and what not. I detested iTunes!! I soon realized though, once you understand how it works, it is a lot more organizable.
Not all the bad stuff is out, this is what I love about the HD7 compared to HD2.
1. No more front keys. Hate keys. Just another crevice for junk to get into or part to get broken, or space for a liquid to leak into.
2. Windows Phone 7 OS. To be able to properly use this without having to ROM it is a big thing for people who can't afford to brick their phone. Though the HD2 has ways to implement other OS's, people like me rather just stick with whats installed for safety.
3. The kickstand. Duhh!! Got tired of using the space between the numbers and function keys to watch a movie. Plus is kinda works like protection for the camera too.
4. Dedicated Camera Key. The tap screen to take a picture made taking a picture a chore for me, because I would shake the picture right as i was taking it.
5. Improve App Store. Being able to install, download, and buy apps without having to be on the phone to do it saves me a lot of time. My land line will always be faster then my data line on my phone.
6. Up To Date Info. Last but not least is the start page. On one simple face you can see all your updates from Facebook, email, messages, apps updates, and probably more. The Facebook app for HD2 was a mess, and the email and messaging updates were boring and to simple. HD7 hyped it big time. I love it.
This is all my opinion, but it is new and expect a lot to happen. Especially once Adobe releases flash support.
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well, in my opinion I do like the hardkeys on the HD2 (at least the appearence because I never had an HD2 in my hands), because is just too easy to confuse and press one softkey..
The camera button it's a good idea, but i would suggest an on-screen shutter, because no one knows how to take pictures or they just dont let a time on the first stop for focus...
I think in WinMo you are able to change a lot of settings, in WP7 we cant even calibrate the screen.. But well, today was a happy day.. And i should say I love the atention of having a phone that maybe we have only 10 in the country, not just for the Huge screen, also the solidity, camera and the sprakers/microphone at the sides of the screen..
The HD7 has its touch keys (back/Home/Search) little bit too close to the screen. It makes user too easy to touch those keys by mistake. I know because i do touch those keys a lot by mistake , mostly when playing Fruit Ninja.
the soft keys ( power button/ volume buttons/ camera button) lacks the "click"-feeling, make it kinda hare to press it everytime . HD7 also lacks in serving time with its limited-battery (1230mAh), HTC put the eye-candy above the build quality in their chart for HD7.
about the OS, i have no question about it because WP7 serve me well on daily processes and it is still in develop
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The HD7 has its touch keys (back/Home/Search) little bit too close to the screen. It makes user too easy to touch those keys by mistake. I know because i do touch those keys a lot by mistake , mostly when playing Fruit Ninja.
the soft keys ( power button/ volume buttons/ camera button) lacks the "click"-feeling, make it kinda hare to press it everytime . HD7 also lacks in serving time with its limited-battery (1230mAh), HTC put the eye-candy above the build quality in their chart for HD7.
about the OS, i have no question about it because WP7 serve me well on daily processes and it is still in develop
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The softkeys seems to be part of the screen.. I tried pinch to zoom at pictures touching the screen and (with the second finger) touching the softkeys.. Thats why the keys should be near the screen...
Good day,
I am reposting these questions as a new thread, hoping to get some qualified answers from people who are coming from a phone that had the the specs (or close to) the ones in the subject line.
I am an HD2\WM 6.5.3 user with poor vision, hence my interest in the Galaxy Note.
1) Can someone tell me if the icons and the icon text is smaller or larger on the GNote?
2) Same question when browsing the internet and reading mail BEFORE zooming in?
I often have to squint or occasionally use a monocle to view some of the program screens on my HD2 and am hoping that the increased DPI of the GNote is not going to make things smaller over all, despite the larger screen size.
Clearly I am hoping for all things to appear larger!
3) And a little off topic but one of the best things I liked about the HD2\Opera 9.7 browser was auto text wrap\reflow when one does a pinch to zoom. HTC seems to include this functionality in their Sense UI on Android as they did with WM and I do not think the built in browser on the GNote does this???
I tried Dolphin HD on an Andorid SD build on my HD2 but I could not get auto text wrap to work at all, let alone like it does with WM\HTC\Opera.
4) Also, how viewable is the GNote outdoors, in the shade and in the sun?
I would greatly appreciate any\all details and insights anyone can provide before I drop my cash on what I hope to be the answer to my needs.
Thanks in advance, you lucky people.
Text reflow problem in the browser is the only thing that keeping me from getting the SGN ,I also use HD2 WM 6.5 and the Text reflow is amazing on both Opera 9.7 and 10.
However, although I havnt tried it myself but it looks like that the Opera browser supports it,
On both my wifes and sons Samsung galaxy Tabs text reflow is not supported both in stock or Dolphin Hd browsers.
But on my HD2 when I install the MIUI Android SD ROM I notice that i can reflow the text in the browser.
In this thread you can follow discussion for galaxy S II which is suffering from the same syndrom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062327
Good day to you too.
Just going by straight numbers, a 4.3" screen with 800*480 resolution will have a PPI of 217. On a 5.3" screen at 1280*800 resolution, that number jumps to ~285 PPI. (For comparison's sake, Apple's retina display at 3.5" and 960*640 has a PPI of nearly 330.)
In short, the individual pixels on the GNote are going to be smaller than the pixels on a 4.3" 800*480 device. As such, assuming nothing else in the OS has been changed, everything else will appear to be comparatively smaller (but sharper too).
I know there are pixel density apps in the marketplace which allow you to effectively scale up/down Android across the board to emulate the PPI of your preference. Perhaps you may consider trying that out?
Good luck!
Just going by sight (didn't measure), the icons and text on the Note are about the same size as on the sgs by DEFAULT.
But If you root the device then you can change the screen dpi, which well let you make EVERYTHING (all text and graphics, icons etc) smaller or larger to your liking). App LCD Density Changer from the market does this.
Having spent some time with ICS on my HD2, the native browser reflows text very well. I think it would be safe to say that once the Note recieves its ICS update, as Samsung has promised, browsing should be sweet.
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I believe text reflow is Application based. Try different browsers until you find one thats satisfactory. I had a HTC Apache, Fuze, and Tilt2. Opera was my browser of choice on the Fuze and Tilt2. I use Miren on my Note and am more than happy. Dolphin browser is another great one.
As others have stated, Dpi changing apps from the market will more than satisfy your desire for having things bigger and more readable. Just be aware that most stock Samsung Apps are not set to auto re-size with different DPI levels. There are many Launcher and dialer alternatives for free from the market that do auto scale.
I say get the phone. You will be more than happy with it.
To add to the list's of devices that wrap text...the HTC flyer would auto wrap text on the entire page when you zoomed in on the stock browser. Loved it most of the time, other times it got annoying.
From my part I thank you all for the heads up,I have already ordered it couple of hours ago,should recieve it by tomorrow,for sure will be needing more assistance for a full customization,Hopefully you will bear up with us.
The stock browser reflows text fine after i ticked the auto fit pages option in settings.
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The default browser supports text reflow, it's just NOT ENABLED by default. Please take a look at the browser options.
The same for the FM Radio station name, you have to go into settings and enable it.
I've seen too many posts of people complaining of something that is optional. Just go into settings and explore all the possibilities, many things can be changed.
hagba said:
Text reflow problem in the browser is the only thing that keeping me from getting the SGN ,I also use HD2 WM 6.5 and the Text reflow is amazing on both Opera 9.7 and 10.
However, although I havnt tried it myself but it looks like that the Opera browser supports it,
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I never got to manage automatic text reflow on the samsung stock browsers after froyo (checked every option combination I could think of ) but Opera definitely does this on the Note just zoom in and the text of an article you are reading reflows which is a delight.
I agree with you with people quite easily start to complain.
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The default browser supports text reflow, it's just NOT ENABLED by default. Please take a look at the browser options.
The same for the FM Radio station name, you have to go into settings and enable it.
I've seen too many posts of people complaining of something that is optional. Just go into settings and explore all the possibilities, many things can be changed.
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I never got to manage automatic text reflow on the samsung stock browsers after froyo (checked every option combination I could think of ) but Opera definitely does this on the Note just zoom in and the text of an article you are reading reflows which is a delight.
I agree with you with people quite easily start to complain.
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Ok mr. Claude,I just got my G Note, one amazing piece of trchnology,first thing I did is to check up the text reflow in the stock browser which didnt work,however after installing the all too familiar Opera Mobile everything is superb.
I recommend you get it.One nice surprise was that it supported the Armenian language OTB in addition to a couple of more which I read.
By the way I am typing from the GN right now with the Opera without enabling auotocorrection and its super fast.
I wanted to thank the people who have replied about this as it helps me and I am sure, others.
I would still like to hear from users of the GNote as to out-of-box icon\text and default text size when in email app, etc. compared to icon\text size when on a 4.3" screen that has 800x480.
And I am sure I will be buyng this bad boy once we get a clearer indication if AT&T here in the USA w/b coming out with an LTE version of the GNote soon or not. (read that as not soon enough but I am willing to wait till Q1 of 2012 if AT&T does end up selling the LTE version).
Again my thanks to those who have responded thus far.
Ok here wr go,in the email application the headers on the HD2 can be pinched to zoom while on the GNote cannont,meanwhile on the GNote Hotmail the pinch to zoom works very well together with the text reflow,I was able to zoom in the email massage till there was just one word on each line!!.But the Gmail doesnt seem to support zoom nor did I find a way to enlarge the fonts,but than again my main email is the hotmail.
Regarding the Icons they are smaller than the HD2 but the text is a bit larger.
However there is one thing that the GNote excells in is the Keyboard,the HD2 Keyboard is a complete crap,thats why I preffered the Swype.
My advice,if it is just for reading webpages and email HD2 is not much worst than the GNote,but for everthing else it is completly different experience.
Dang your still using WinMo?! There are many Android ROMS for HD2 that have text reflow working. Anyway I just got my Note a couple days ago and I was an HD2 user myself for over a year. Great phone. I was also worried the higher res on the Note would make everything look smaller. But in fact it looks pretty close to the same. Higher res + bigger screen = about same appearance for text. Everything else though is MUCH better. AND you get more text on the screen. Obviously. Would I recommend it to you, someone VERY concerned about reading text? Not sure. AMOLED does provide better contrast. You would basically be getting a device that would show you more text not necessarily larger.
I will say this. I'm an ergonomic freak. I loved the HD2's design. Perfect fit in hand, good amount of rubberization on edges, quality materials and REAL buttons and a FRONT power button. I can't stand devices that put the power button WAY up top. Especially as these phones get larger it gets really clumsy to reach for that button every time. When/if ATT does get the Note you can be assured they will remove the front home physical button. Actually there is a pic of it without the button. http://pocketnow.com/android/samsung-preparing-galaxy-note-hardware-for-us-release-image . The power button on the Note is VERY high up on the right hand side. VERY hard to reach on a large device when trying to hold with one hand(which is possible). So without being able to wake the device with the front physical home button this is the only option. I personally wouldn't want anything to do with the ATT version and am glad I purchased the international version for this reason alone.