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[Q] Best Non-Market apps...

So when I first got the captivate I was disappointed that my buddy with the incredible could side-load apps and I could not... So what did I do? I rooted it and enabled side-loading... now that was over a month or more ago and I have yet to install one non-market app... What are you guys using for apps that are not on the market?

MiKandi, for the gay porn.
Seriously though, I don't think most people sideload non-market apps, or at least I haven't really found anything worthwhile outside of the market, especially since the captivate comes with Swype pre-installed. I've sideloaded some beta software that isn't found in the market, like firefox mobile, and some other stuff that disappeared from the market after my 2.2 upgrade (new york times mobile), but none of them are must-have apps. Most of the sideloading I do is just to test my own programs, since the sdk's simulator runs slow on my computer. It's nice to have the option though, even if you don't currently need it.
Also, if I remember right, some game companies don't sell their stuff on the market, like assassin's creed and whatnot. I'd imagine you'd have to be able to install non-market apps to install those.

nfl moble from verizon

1. Fancy Widget
2. DropBox (working non-market version1003)
3. QIK 0.3.74 (working video chat 3g/wifi)
4. Glyder2 (is it market yet?)
5. StarWars Live Wallpapers

Don't tell people how to get warez on XDA.

All the gameloft games: NOVA, Sandstorm, hero of sparta, dungeon hunter, etc

Fancy widget
Genie widget
Asphalt
Live wallpapers
Pre8
NFL app
Lots of stuff off xda
From a phone on an app

aknitter1 said:
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That supports android development how?
From a phone on an app

boborone said:
That supports android development how?
From a phone on an app
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I'm more likely to buy an app if I can try it first, but let's just ignore the grey area in favor of your simplistic, black and white worldview. Piracy bad!

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I'm more likely to buy an app if I can try it first, but let's just ignore the grey area in favor of your simplistic, black and white worldview. Piracy bad!
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err, your logic is entirely flawed just fyi. if you knew anything about the android market, you'd know you have up to 24 hours after purchasing an app to refund and uninstall it. so you saying "I search for apps so I can try them before I purchase them" is, at best, ridiculously misinformed.
do the right thing and buy the app, if it isn't to your liking, refund it. on any other platform, where this process doesn't exist, I'd give you a break. but android specifically has this setup to avoid exactly what you're saying you do.
edit: should add that the main benefit of enabling sideloading for me is restoring apps through titanium backup after reflashing my phone.

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err, your logic is entirely flawed just fyi. if you knew anything about the android market, you'd know you have up to 24 hours after purchasing an app to refund and uninstall it. so you saying "I search for apps so I can try them before I purchase them" is, at best, ridiculously misinformed.
do the right thing and buy the app, if it isn't to your liking, refund it. on any other platform, where this process doesn't exist, I'd give you a break. but android specifically has this setup to avoid exactly what you're saying you do.
edit: should add that the main benefit of enabling sideloading for me is restoring apps through titanium backup after reflashing my phone.
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Please highlight the sentence where I said anything close to "I pirate apps." I'll wait...
Seriously, you're putting words in my mouth. But for the sake of argument, I'll add that sometimes 24 hours just isn't enough time to determine whether an expensive app like Doggcatcher (a $7 podcast app) is the best available option. I need time to see how it works in different situations, ie how well it streams while I'm at work vs my house, bluetooth vs line-out, how it reacts to different roms, etc. I was forced to take a gamble and buy the app without testing it in every situation I encounter.
If you read my actual statement rather than simply making up your own, you'd see that all I was saying is that there's a gray area. It's more complicated than piracy bad, riaa good.

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Tunee music. But I think I saw in the market now. I used it for a couple songs then thought to myself "self this can't be legal" downloading almost any song you can think of to your phone for free... "self, maybe the record companies made tunee music so they can get richer off poor people that download music for free"
So I do NOT want to be like the lady that downloaded 24 songs and now has to pay something like 1.5 million dollars now. So bye bye it went. I dont have a spare 1.5 mill
But it is a cool app. I originally had to.sideload it. Got it from tuneemusic.net Again I think I saw it.in the market.now.
EDIT:Yep.it is the market now. Just searched for it but DIDNT download
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I like that I can now go to the Science Fiction book publisher's web site direct and download the older stuff for free or get the new stuff at a discount. They even offer ARCs (advance reader copy) of books 6 months before release date. HTTP://WWW.baen.com
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RDI said:
I like that I can now go to the Science Fiction book publisher's web site direct and download the older stuff for free or get the new stuff at a discount. They even offer ARCs (advance reader copy) of books 6 months before release date. <url omitted>
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I wasn't aware of this site. What reader software and download format do you use?

sextonma said:
I wasn't aware of this site. What reader software and download format do you use?
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When I was on WM6.1 I was using .lit files and Microsoft Reader. At least it remembered what page I am on.
Now I use WordPlayer app to read ePub format. www.Baen.com remembers what books you ever got and I can always re-download those in ePub format. WordPlayer will also "talk" to Calibre Library (Free & runs on your "big" computer). Calibre will convert any format eBook to any format. Calibre will also act as a Reader on your desktop. You will eventually move all eBooks into it.
I end up using WordPlayer setup with a black screen (less power) and white letters. Dim or brightning as needed.
Understand that by giving away the first books in a series (or older books) by their top Authors, Baen is like a Drug Dealer giving you a Free Taste!

Go to WWW.droidappz.com
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[Q] New to Nook Color, curious about rooting and functionality

I'm curious about rooting the NC. If I root with Auto-nooter and still use the B&N stock launcher, what will be different than if I just left it totally stock? I thought I read something about not being able to buy books through BN anymore... is this true?

IF you root, you will be able to access the android market and all the apps that come with it like angry birds, kindle reader, youtube, etc.
You CAN still buy books from the bn store. I bought "the girl with the dragon tattoo" just yesterday.
There are however, some cases of bn instore features not working after root, but some people have retained that functionality. So maybe its just luck.
IF you don't root you will have the instore functionality but no market, so no non default apps.
Hope i could help.
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EDIT: just reread your post and keeping the default launcher is no different to getting a new one, you just have to reboot to have any new apps you downloaded from the android store show up in the exrtras drawer...
Man that's a mouthful

Thanks, that about answers all my questions! Personally, I'm all for switching it to LauncherPro but my wife likes to have it as an e-reader first and tablet second. Me? I just like to hack things!

Its possible to keep all added apps to the extras panel and not use a third party launcher. This way the nook will be nearly identical to stock. Might be nice if one party wants to add apps and the other wants to retain a simple ebook reader.
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Advice: Wife Approval Factor

My wife would like apps on her NookColor.
My thought was just autonootering her Nook.
Can anyone think of a compelling reason to use Froyo, HC etc for her.
Thanks in advance

rgreenpc said:
My wife would like apps on her NookColor.
My thought was just autonootering her Nook.
Can anyone think of a compelling reason to use Froyo, HC etc for her.
Thanks in advance
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No... just keep Eclair if its for your wife, everything works ... if we ever get 2.2 then upgrade to a rooted 2.2... IMO

mutant13 said:
No... just keep Eclair if its for your wife, everything works ... if we ever get 2.2 then upgrade to a rooted 2.2... IMO
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i agree 100%, messing with froyo, cm7, hc is good but you lose the great nook reader apps, (theres an market version but its not as good) and there not working perfectly yet.

Thanks guys...
I can still replace her launcher etc with zeam/launcher pro on a rooted nook correct?
I get my own NC soon (which I will be playing with).
I have also noticed the work on porting the stock app.

Yep, my wife (and myself too!) still on Auto Nootered 2.1 stock B&N because it's the most robust solution right now. No /boot eating itself, no market problems, the B&N Software works right, etc..
For the wife primarily, since she has purchased several childrens books and such, plus for her I like to Keep it Simple.
For me, I just like that it "just works" and no fuss. Would I like 2.2? Sure. The speed bump from 2.1 to 2.2 on my Nexus One was nice, but it's not worth the little annoyances and problems that happen randomly.

Dualboot to save your marriage! worked for me.. lol

khaytsus said:
Yep, my wife (and myself too!) still on Auto Nootered 2.1 stock B&N because it's the most robust solution right now. No /boot eating itself, no market problems, the B&N Software works right, etc..
For the wife primarily, since she has purchased several childrens books and such, plus for her I like to Keep it Simple.
For me, I just like that it "just works" and no fuss. Would I like 2.2? Sure. The speed bump from 2.1 to 2.2 on my Nexus One was nice, but it's not worth the little annoyances and problems that happen randomly.
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+1 to this post exactly! Do autonooter up to 1.1 with a replacement launcher and disabled updates. My wife LOVES her 2.1, 1.1 B&N NC and has had zero complaints with watching movies, reading books, playing games, etc. She's not tech savvy at all either, so that's a testament to the NC's solidness running eclair. However this did require me tweaking a great deal of things overtime. If suggest you spend the first week with it in your arsenal tweaking it as need be so that when you five it to your wife it runs smoothly.

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+1 to this post exactly! Do autonooter up to 1.1 with a replacement launcher and disabled updates. My wife LOVES her 2.1, 1.1 B&N NC and has had zero complaints with watching movies, reading books, playing games, etc. She's not tech savvy at all either, so that's a testament to the NC's solidness running eclair. However this did require me tweaking a great deal of things overtime. If suggest you spend the first week with it in your arsenal tweaking it as need be so that when you five it to your wife it runs smoothly.
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Can you replace the stock launcher and still get B&N stock reader and in-store experience?

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Can you replace the stock launcher and still get B&N stock reader and in-store experience?
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It seems like with 1.1.0 autonootered you can still get the instore stuff, although I haven't tested it myself (even though I live less than a mile from a B&N). Mine is straight stock 1.1.0/autonooter with the zeam launcher and it's damned near perfect. It actually works better than my first one (my wife's 1.0.1 unfortunately!) where the reading icon doesn't seem to work.
But on this one, all the functionality works perfect from what I can see. As a matter of fact, with the basic nook wallpaper background and zeam, you can't really tell it's rooted on first glance. As a matter of fact, my daughter got a big kick out of the 'read to me' book that comes on it, which she used after rooting.
It's the perfect solution, as far I'm concerned.

Just realized you were asking a more refined question: after rooting, is stock launcher required for in store experience. I want to try this today and will let you know.

There are now widespread reports of B&N updating the stock NC to 2.2 with Flash and B&N Market in a couple of weeks.
Waiting until then is probably the best bet for those who like the B&N features.
But admittedly the ability to wait a couple of weeks is probably rare these days.
Also, the OP stated:
My wife would like apps on her NookColor.
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Of course, the stock Nook Color already has "apps".
Perhaps there is a specific app that she wants ?
Considering that most apps already run on the NC with Nookie Froyo installed, then it seems likely that the B&N Market will attract most of the popular apps, since they won't have to change anything in the code.
About the only apps that you will definitely not see is Reader Apps.
Lastly, "Wife Approval Factor" is a term that describes your wife's approval of something that you bought for yourself - 51 inch plasma TV, 4 foot high stereo speakers, etc.

mutant13 said:
No... just keep Eclair if its for your wife, everything works ... if we ever get 2.2 then upgrade to a rooted 2.2... IMO
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You gentleman do realize that sometimes it's the WIFE who wants the complicated stuff and the husband who is still running stock, right? I had to configure tasker this morning on my husbands nexus one so that it would turn the sound off during meetings and back on afterwards, than installed CM7 on my nook color for kicks.
Having said that the stock is the most stable right now, and there are very few apps you can't install. (The only problems I had were with 2.2+ apps [stupid zombies] and things that required the phone stack [swype].)

doncaruana said:
It seems like with 1.1.0 autonootered you can still get the instore stuff, although I haven't tested it myself (even though I live less than a mile from a B&N). Mine is straight stock 1.1.0/autonooter with the zeam launcher and it's damned near perfect. It actually works better than my first one (my wife's 1.0.1 unfortunately!) where the reading icon doesn't seem to work.
But on this one, all the functionality works perfect from what I can see. As a matter of fact, with the basic nook wallpaper background and zeam, you can't really tell it's rooted on first glance. As a matter of fact, my daughter got a big kick out of the 'read to me' book that comes on it, which she used after rooting.
It's the perfect solution, as far I'm concerned.
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Did you do something in particular to get the reading icon to work again? I've been on nootered 2.1 for a while now and the reading icon hasn't worked since I rooted it. I just assumed it was an issue with the 2.1 port.
Also, in regards to the OP, keep it stock 2.1 for your wife. I have yet to find an app that doesn't work on it, it's extremely stable, and the stock reader app is almost too bad ass to give up for 2.2, cm7, or the buggy as all hell HC.

doncaruana said:
It seems like with 1.1.0 autonootered you can still get the instore stuff, although I haven't tested it myself (even though I live less than a mile from a B&N). Mine is straight stock 1.1.0/autonooter with the zeam launcher and it's damned near perfect. It actually works better than my first one (my wife's 1.0.1 unfortunately!) where the reading icon doesn't seem to work.
But on this one, all the functionality works perfect from what I can see. As a matter of fact, with the basic nook wallpaper background and zeam, you can't really tell it's rooted on first glance. As a matter of fact, my daughter got a big kick out of the 'read to me' book that comes on it, which she used after rooting.
It's the perfect solution, as far I'm concerned.
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Actually thats the next big test. Does using another launcher still permit in-store abilities?

elwopo said:
Did you do something in particular to get the reading icon to work again? I've been on nootered 2.1 for a while now and the reading icon hasn't worked since I rooted it. I just assumed it was an issue with the 2.1 port.
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I think it has to do with where you start. On my wife's nook, which was autonootered from 1.0.1, the reading icon doesn't work. On my nook, autonootered from 1.1.0, the reading icon does work. Simple as that. I'd love to be able to offer some slick thing I did to get it to work, but I didn't. Probably try and see if the 1.1.0 r2 thing will fix it for her but she's operational right now anyway.

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Actually thats the next big test. Does using another launcher still permit in-store abilities?
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Tested this morning. Works perfectly. As soon as I connected to the B&N network, the shop popped up and had the banner with free books, etc. I even downloaded the Oprah biography to "start reading" for free. I use Zeam as my default launcher.

My daughter rooted her 1.1 color nook and is thrilled with the 'cool apps'
She hasn't tested the instore functionality, but she did install the home switcher so she can switch back to the B&N home. I think that should allow instore functionality.
She posted a youtube video of how she rooted it. Thanks to everyone here for making it so easy!

In store with a rooted NC

FWIW, and to provide a semi-definitive answer to questions some people have posed: I am currently in the cafe of my local Barnes & Noble, enjoying a coffee, a biscotti (two, actually... bad, bad boy) and borrowing a book with my Autonootered (3.0) Nook Color. The store Wifi did recognize my NC when I powered up.
Only change I've made to the system is turning off auto updates with sqlite.
(Update: I may have broken the in-store function. More when I get home. zGotta run)

OK, so here's the full story:
Went to B&N to verify for myself whether rooting Nook Color (Autonooter 3.0) locked you out of in-store goodies such as browsing books for an hour.
To my delight, I was able to borrow a book and browse, no problem. So I figured: hey, let's press my luck and see what sort's of activities could potentially kill that ability. First thing I did was launch Opera 11 and start surfing. Came back to the book I was browsing and all was still good. Then I decided to download an app from the Android App store. So I downloaded Autodesk Sketchbook Mobile (OMG, I cannot believe this wonderful app runs a mere .99 cents. Bargain of the century, if you ask me.) So far so good. Everything is still working. I can still browse the book in-store. But at one point Opera started feeling a bit sluggish. I decided to use Advanced Task Killer Free edition to free us some resources. I went ahead and nuked a couple of processes and then tried to come back to the borrowed book using the "keep reading" icon in the task bar. Now I got a message saying "this resource is no longer available" or something to that effect. So launched the Barnes and Noble hoping to browse another book. Now, however, none of the books had the "in-store" label on them. So I restarted the Nook (turned it off and back on). When the Nook re-connected to WiFi I was recognized as a Nook, and books in the store did show the "in-store" label, but when I tried to browse one I was stock at the "processing" screen and saw no movement on the progress bar. That's when something came up and I had to go.
Now, coming back home I decided to launch the store again and see if I could buy a title. I tried a magazine, but this time, even buying the magazine I was stuck at the "processing" screen with no movement on the progress bar. So I re-booted the Nook and tried again. First time it failed, but the second time it downloaded the magazine. I suspect that the first time I may simply have entered my password wrong.
Next I'll try going back to Barnes and Noble and see if I'm still locked out of in-store browsing.
The lack of in-store browsing is not a huge deal, to be honest. But if I'd managed to break the store altogether (not be able to buy books) that would be a stock-rooted deal-breaker for me. I'd probably dump the stock image and start playing with some of the fancy new ROMs that people are developing over in the development forum. no way would I go back to stock un-rooted, though. This device is just astonishingly cool once you've got full access to the Android Market and the myriad applications available there. I used to think that I'd be happy with Barnes and Noble's offerings once they opened their store, but honestly, I doubt they're going to offer stuff like the "IPCONFIG" and "PING" apps, or half the games I've downloaded.

Ok, quick update: I'm back at Barnes& Noble. It's not the same store, but FWIW, in-storr borrowing is working for me. In addition, I was able to buy a book (Works of David Hume, in case you're curious.) So, yeah, rooting by itself will not compromise your ability to enjoy in-store features.
That's all. Bye, bye.

Thanks for the write up. Just got mine on Saturday. That was one thing I was wondering about with rooting it. What all I can't do. I know there's alot I can't do now unrooted, but I didn't get this for a tablet, I wanted an e reader. I live around the corner from B&N, and have been a member for a couple yrs. Just having fun now unrooted still learning this thing.

boborone said:
Thanks for the write up. Just got mine on Saturday. That was one thing I was wondering about with rooting it. What all I can't do. I know there's alot I can't do now unrooted, but I didn't get this for a tablet, I wanted an e reader. I live around the corner from B&N, and have been a member for a couple yrs. Just having fun now unrooted still learning this thing.
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If you can wait a couple of weeks, you should be able to start buying Apps from the Barnes & Noble app store. Should suffice for most casual users.

dsf3g said:
If you can wait a couple of weeks, you should be able to start buying Apps from the Barnes & Noble app store. Should suffice for most casual users.
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Yeah, so far a couple games and dolphin hd are about all I miss from my phone. I can do anything I want on my phone. But dam do I hate the stock browser on this thing. I'll see what the update brings.

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So I downloaded Autodesk Sketchbook Mobile (OMG, I cannot believe this wonderful app runs a mere .99 cents. Bargain of the century, if you ask me.)
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I've been searching for an app like this! Thanks for mentioning it!!!
Now to get a proper pen/stylus and I can do some great work!

dsf3g said:
FWIW, and to provide a semi-definitive answer to questions some people have posed: I am currently in the cafe of my local Barnes & Noble, enjoying a coffee, a biscotti (two, actually... bad, bad boy) and borrowing a book with my Autonootered (3.0) Nook Color. The store Wifi did recognize my NC when I powered up.
Only change I've made to the system is turning off auto updates with sqlite.
(Update: I may have broken the in-store function. More when I get home. zGotta run)
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This thread has the answer for rooted stock NC
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12053605&postcount=213

jonstar said:
I've been searching for an app like this! Thanks for mentioning it!!!
Now to get a proper pen/stylus and I can do some great work!
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when you find one let us know! I've got boxwave stylus, which I think is the same as the one sold by griffin and targus and it's just not that great for detailed work.

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when you find one let us know! I've got boxwave stylus, which I think is the same as the one sold by griffin and targus and it's just not that great for detailed work.
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Off-topic question for you: Is it good enough for hand writing? I want a stylus to go with a notepad app (really just a glorified paint I guess), to make taking notes easier, but I am hesitant to buy one from all the negative reviews I've seen here and elsewhere. Thanks!
Craine

I bought a cheap $4.00 capacitive stylus off ebay and it's basically worthless. So I'm on the hunt for one also.

KHDF7 - Root for my kids device?

So he just got it but I would like to give him access to other apps (mainly GVoice for SMS but there are probably others his friends play too he would want) and wondering if its possible to keep it with Amazon. Primarily, it'll be media and book for him, I just want to make it fun too.
Also, are the default parental controls suitable for you parents or you using alternative means?
Thanks in advance and Merry Christmas.
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Kind of what I'm thinking. I read the rooting method, seems just as easy as my Galaxy S III. I want my daughter to be able to use Google apps and get rid of the lock screen ads. Still searching...
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Kind of what I'm thinking. I read the rooting method, seems just as easy as my Galaxy S III. I want my daughter to be able to use Google apps and get rid of the lock screen ads. Still searching...
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Doesn't seem like rooting is 100% safe, nor even near a 1-click just yet.. Kind of thinking I will hold off. Yeah, the ads and Amazon bloat is somewhat frustrating but he doesn't really NEED root at this point. Might be easier to manage his 11 year old activities without it..
Kind of thinking I will hold off. Also seeing TONS of people having issues rooting with either delayed or completely without any type of helpful response. I know the devs work hard on these things, I guess I'm just in the pool of waiting until the fog gets lifted a bit more. Definitely not trying to break this thing.

DNak206 said:
So he just got it but I would like to give him access to other apps (mainly GVoice for SMS but there are probably others his friends play too he would want) and wondering if its possible to keep it with Amazon. Primarily, it'll be media and book for him, I just want to make it fun too.
Also, are the default parental controls suitable for you parents or you using alternative means?
Thanks in advance and Merry Christmas.
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I am confused as to the question? Yes you can root. It's a bit odd though since the devices are new. If you're worried about it breaking I would say that greatly depends on how tech savvy your kid is. As long as he doesn't mess with root tools I think it should be fine. If you mean keep the amazon launcher and app, you will lose those. I assume some dev magic can do a nice workaround, but I wouldn't count on it.
You can still get all the play store apps like the kindle reader from there. The only thing I've missed is the x-ray feature it had for books and movies. The other thing you lose is prime.
What you gain though, is a usable tablet.
Like the other user said though, I don't see much dev support yet, especially for my KF2. So if you feel confident you should be fine. If you're just following steps though, I would proceed at your own risk, just in case.

if you wanna use prime get g play and get ota rootkeeper
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