What ate the benifits of formating the internal sd card? I just updated to 2.2 and want to know if i should format the sd card
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wink4life said:
What ate the benifits of formating the internal sd card? I just updated to 2.2 and want to know if i should format the sd card
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The benefits to format the internal sdcard is to clean it from bad data.
Its also wise to do a factory reset and wipe the cache.
You do loose all your data so you need to backup your apps.
Then you don't have old settings from 2.1 that can mess with your system.
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DamianGto said:
The benefits to format the internal sdcard is to clean it from bad data.
Its also wise to do a factory reset and wipe the cache.
You do loose all your data so you need to backup your apps.
Then you don't have old settings from 2.1 that can mess with your system.
**Using my own JPU kernel, z4mod, 339MB Ram and ext2 filesystem**
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I updated to 2.2 and then 2.2.1 but i can still see file from the old 2.1...
Both times i upgraded my hone was stuck so i did factory reset but no farmat.
If i do it now will i have to flash again or the system will stay as it is?
tackygr said:
I updated to 2.2 and then 2.2.1 but i can still see file from the old 2.1...
Both times i upgraded my hone was stuck so i did factory reset but no farmat.
If i do it now will i have to flash again or the system will stay as it is?
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+1 Me interest too....Anybody will answer ?
Thanks
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wink4life said:
What ate the benifits of formating the internal sd card? I just updated to 2.2 and want to know if i should format the sd card
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Don't bother formatting.. Factory reset should be enough. There is a remote possibility as Damian mentioned that wiping the contents (you don't even need to format it) might help, but not sure if it will..
You get a clean system.
There will be alot of old file that's not needed and its wast of space.
It had been proven time after time that a format will be good after an upgrade.
you don't need to reflash.
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I wiped my ext because I wanted to increase my swap.. so I backed up my sd card, wiped my ext, partitioned the sd card again, upgraded to ext4, reloaded sd card contents, rebooted. Now I'm missing all my apps.. but in market they say installed but won't let me uninstall or open - wtf?
Hmmm.... Not sure if that does a complete repartition that way or not or if there is an easier way to do it, But I took my sdcard back to one partition using windows disk manager. After that I formatted the card (FAT 32) and then put it back in the phone and repatitioned. Had no problems that way... hope this helps.
you probably need to wipe data, dalvik, ext, reboot into recovery, repair ext, and then reflash the rom
i think i know what the problem is.....you posted this in the wrong section.
tehseano said:
i think i know what the problem is.....you posted this in the wrong section.
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wipe properly.
Happens :/
Yeah, you have to do a complete wipe. When you install apps and don't install them back into your Ext partition then the market will still say you have the app installed, but it's not there so everything grays out. Happened to me a few times. Learned my lesson :O
Even after the last CM7 update by codeworx (09042011) the external sd is not working... someone else has this problem? solutions?
Format sd card worth a try .
jje
JJEgan said:
Format sd card worth a try .
jje
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what filesystem should i use? ext4?
slash89mf said:
what filesystem should i use? ext4?
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CM7 is already running on ext4, it doesnt require lagfix or anything because the only option is ext4. there is no RFS/EXT2/JFS ect.....
azzledazzle said:
CM7 is already running on ext4, it doesnt require lagfix or anything because the only option is ext4. there is no RFS/EXT2/JFS ect.....
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so what should i do to get my ext sd working?
Solved..you need to flash a firmware with a bootloader included, i flashed I9000XWJM2 with odin 1.82 and s1_odin_20100803.pit, with bootloader update option enabled (if after flashing you have the recovery, wipe cache and data to reboot in normal mode). then flash cm7 like the first time and the external sd will be working
hi,
i'm usin ra passion 2.2.1 and wan't to use a2sd from ics 4.0.3 evervolv. how can i create a part ext4?
Google:
"a2sd partition sd card".
Enjoy.
Try 4EXT recovery www.4ext.net
I think its the easiest way to create partition.
Or else you can do it in pc via partition managers(i use minitool partition wizard)
You can google it and also can search in youtube for video tutorials.
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thanks for your help, i've done it in recovery.
one question is left:
what happen if i format the partioned sd-card under windows and do a full wipe in preparation for installing a new rom. i've read sd-ext even survive a full wipe? what does that mean? stays the partition untouched when i format the sd-card with windows? and what about the apps in the partition? are they still there even after a full wipe and can i use them after flashing a new rom out of the box?
Glad u succeeded in partitioning
Now if you format the fat32 partition in windows using those partition tools doesnt affect ur ext. Ext stays untouched but all the data on fat32 will be wiped(so backup first to pc)
If u want to merge there is an option called merge for that.
There is an free windows software called sdformatter, that formats the entire sdcard(fat32+ext)
Hope i helped a bit :thumbup:
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ok. i wan't to format it with the windows internal function via right click. is it the same and the ext4 stays untouched?
Full wipe in recovery wipes SD-EXT too.
heinz gruber said:
ok. i wan't to format it with the windows internal function via right click. is it the same and the ext4 stays untouched?
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i do beleive that it should be untouched, cos normally windows cannot see the ext partition and hence only fat32 will be formatted
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ok. when ext4 stay untouched and i flash a new rom the apps are still in the launcher after flashing?
Jack_R1 said:
Full wipe in recovery wipes SD-EXT too.
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when i flash a new rom i use the format.zip form the xda user temasek which wipes system, boot, data and cache. so is sd-ext untouched when i use this file?
You insist on not listening and/or not understanding.
When you select "wipe data/factory reset" in custom recovery, EXT partition IS WIPED COMPLETELY. It doesn't stay.
I believe the same happens when using temasek's script, never bothered using it, so I can't say with 100% certainty.
If you don't wipe your phone and install a new ROM - be prepared for crashes of anything to everything, unless you install a ROM which is 100% compatible with what you have already - the next generation of the same ROM, usually.
If you're using A2SD and don't wipe EXT partition - you'll have crashes as soon as you boot, since system apps' data will be there (and wrong).
To keep your apps and their data, use one of the backup apps available in the Market, like Titanium Backup.
as Jack_R1 explained its always better to wipe everything(system,cache,dalvik n sdext) to be on safer side to avoid crashes n FCs.
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Temasek's Extreme Wipe does Data/System/Boot partitions but don't remember seeing ext in the list
However, as alluded too, I would format all outside phone with sdformatter or I think gparted, although never used that one
I thought I read a long time ago Windows formatter not recommended and do a full wipe not partial with whatever you use
Back up sdcard first
also, I believe you can use the Alignment Cool zip to get ext 4 from 3 on Amon and not lose anything--still backup
you do know MeDroid uses Ia2sd and different from a2sd on implementation
You don't need to wipe the regular FAT partition on SD card between flashes, because there's nothing there that loads automatically. And "wipe data/factory reset" option in recovery also wipes /sdcard/.android_secure.
hey guys, thanks for your answers i will keep them in mind.
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one more question:
if i uses temaseks script and the sd-ext is untouched and i flash a newer version of my rom, are the apps then still there after flashing and booting the updated system? or is there another step i've to do?
No, the apps aren't there anymore - or to be correct, the apps are there, their data is gone (because the app data doesn't reside on EXT partition, unless you use specific mounting methods).
When you flash an updated version of your ROM, just don't wipe anything at all unless the instructions specifically mention having to wipe before installing that version. That means - don't execute temasek's script at all.
what does these commands in mount & storage of cwm recovery do?
format cache (is it same as wipe cache?)
format system (is it same as factory reset in cwm?)
format data
format preload
format sd card
format emmc
does it hold significance to perform any of these operations during a full wipe for installing a new rom.
Some answers in here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1836150
http://www.team-passion.com/index.php/wiki/19-roms/18-how-to-do-a-squeaky-clean-install
even thought its now called obsolete, I still perform those steps catered to my n7000. As posting suggest a bit overkill, but did prevent a load of issues cause installs are overkill clean.
At own risk of course and best from safe kernel. Id recommend it to everyone going from gb to ics, from ics to gb or even between customs roms.
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lrcquest said:
what does these commands in mount & storage of cwm recovery do?
does it hold significance to perform any of these operations during a full wipe for installing a new rom.
Some answers in here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1836150
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format cache (is it same as wipe cache?)Yes.
format system (is it same as factory reset in cwm?)It will format your system partition. You will not be able to start your phone unless you flash a new rom
format dataThis will format your data. Same as Factory Reset)
format preloadI hope this is for preloaders which loads before starting the OS.
format sd cardThis will format your Internal SD Card
format emmcThis will format your External SD Card.
Wiping Cache/Dalvik/Data is required to perform a clean install of new rom. There is no need to use these commands unless you want a completely new phone without data (Including Internal/External SD Card).
sahilarora2003 said:
format emmcThis will format your External SD Card.
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what will format/emmc do if no ext SD present ?
nokiamodeln91 said:
what will format/emmc do if no ext SD present ?
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It will show error that ext SD not found
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baz77 said:
http://www.team-passion.com/index.php/wiki/19-roms/18-how-to-do-a-squeaky-clean-install
even thought its now called obsolete, I still perform those steps catered to my n7000. As posting suggest a bit overkill, but did prevent a load of issues cause installs are overkill clean.
At own risk of course and best from safe kernel. Id recommend it to everyone going from gb to ics, from ics to gb or even between customs roms.
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This way is a bit too much safe!
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note sometimes emmc and sd are switched, I think in some roms this is the case. I always suggest to take external out, just in case Been there done that
edit: and some kernels
Cleanest install possible for best experience in my opinion
Note, a lot of people do this but always read first post and thread of rom, just to be safest
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baz77 said:
note sometimes emmc and sd are switched, I think in some roms this is the case. I always suggest to take external out, just in case Been there done that
edit: and some kernels
Cleanest install possible for best experience in my opinion
Note, a lot of people do this but always read first post and thread of rom, just to be safest
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unfortunately i realized that way too late, after formatting Sdcard (External card in my case). leaving me with a blank emmc (supposedly internal sdcard).
After I installed the Safe Kernel Hydracore and Reboot to recovery (vol.up+home+power button) I select wipe data/factory reset & wipe cache partition and even go into Advanced and did the wipe Dalvik cache and after I installed the latest Cyanomod 10 and Gapps and reboot the phone, I still have my old folders like before with maps, games, etc...
When I looked in my Main Storage of my Note (/storage/sdcard0), I only have 3.5 GB free. And like I said, I can still see my old games, apps and maps folders in my main storage which took up a lot of space and I only have 3.5 GB free. Do I have to manually delete every folder in the main storage and go back to recovery and do everything over? Could this brick my phone?
How can I completely wipe everything in my main storage?
Earthbrain said:
After I installed the Safe Kernel Hydracore and Reboot to recovery (vol.up+home+power button) I select wipe data/factory reset & wipe cache partition and even go into Advanced and did the wipe Dalvik cache and after I installed the latest Cyanomod 10 and Gapps and reboot the phone, I still have my old folders like before with maps, games, etc...
When I looked in my Main Storage of my Note (/storage/sdcard0), I only have 3.5 GB free. And like I said, I can still see my old games, apps and maps folders in my main storage which took up a lot of space and I only have 3.5 GB free. Do I have to manually delete every folder in the main storage and go back to recovery and do everything over? Could this brick my phone?
How can I completely wipe everything in my main storage?
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Wipe in cwmr does not clear internal storage, for that you need to format internal SD. Once on safe kernel you can easily format sd and there is no risk in it. Just format it in settings/storage but make sure to move required files to external sd (like pics or music)
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Does it suppose to format your internal sdcard? The answer is NO. Format it by going to settings/storage/format internal memory.
Cheers!!!
Fired From My FireDevice.
Alternatively, as I find even a format of sd sometimes does not do a proper wipe, connect phone to pc as usb, then manually delete all files on SD.
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Think you are all wrong guys.
He wants a factory reset, not manualy delete folders and files.
There are a lot other stuff that remains on the Note, registry, hidden files...etc.
There is only one simple way to do that.
Because all "new" kernel have the option to format emmc disabled, remember the Note brick times.
Flash the Abyss 4.2 kernel, restart in recovery, do factory reset ( it works ) and full wipe, flash an safe ICS kernel or flash the whole new ROM of your choice.
You are done.
Remeber to restart in RECOVERY afte flashing the Abyss 4.2 kernel for factory reset.
The other, difficult, way is to flash a rootable GB ROM with PC Odin, root your Note an after that, you have a clean, almost virgin, Note for flashing the newest ROM of your choice.
I think the first two guys answered correctly.
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I think the first two guys answered correctly.
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Factory reset = format internal SD with safe kernel??
Factory reset only formats system, so doesn't touch internal sd card at all..... Fact.
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Factory reset only formats system, so doesn't touch internal sd card at all..... Fact.
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Ergo => formating internal SD doesnt touch the system => doesnt do "Factory reset"?
Right?
Factory reset with "unsafe" GB kernel format system AND internal SD.
After that you can manually mount system and format it, also all other system partitions, from unsafe kernel.
But after formating system, data, dalvik and all other system relevant partitions from any "safe" kernel you will find all your data, passwords, old programm entrys untouched.
Fact!!!
Ever installed again your navi software after doing full wipe and manually formating all system partitions from safe kernel?
After reboot there is nothing, but install your Navigon and it will find asap all your maps, account and everything else.
All the data are present and this is NOT Factory reset.
There is not problem WHAT does "Factory reset" and "format system" but it is VERY, VERY, VERY important from what KERNEL you do this.
Safe or unsafe GB kernel.
And again, deleting all data from the phone is only possible with unsafe kernel or flashing original Samsung firmware.
And this guy above did a full wipe with safe kernel and finds all his data untouched.
And again: a clean Note is only possible with unsafe GB kernel or original Samsung firmware.
Formating system from a safe kernel is NOT enough for a clean phone.
ziko said:
Ergo => formating internal SD doesnt touch the system => doesnt do "Factory reset"?
Right?
Factory reset with "unsafe" GB kernel format system AND internal SD.
After that you can manually mount system and format it, also all other system partitions, from unsafe kernel.
But after formating system, data, dalvik and all other system relevant partitions from any "safe" kernel you will find all your data, passwords, old programm entrys untouched.
Fact!!!
Ever installed again your navi software after doing full wipe and manually formating all system partitions from safe kernel?
After reboot there is nothing, but install your Navigon and it will find asap all your maps, account and everything else.
All the data are present and this is NOT Factory reset.
There is not problem WHAT does "Factory reset" and "format system" but it is VERY, VERY, VERY important from what KERNEL you do this.
Safe or unsafe GB kernel.
And again, deleting all data from the phone is only possible with unsafe kernel or flashing original Samsung firmware.
And this guy above did a full wipe with safe kernel and finds all his data untouched.
And again: a clean Note is only possible with unsafe GB kernel or original Samsung firmware.
Formating system from a safe kernel is NOT enough for a clean phone.
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You're talking bonkers mate. A factory reset only resets the system partition. It does not include internal sd card Nov matter what kernel you're on. You have to specify a separate operation of wipe internal sd card for that. Kernel type doesn't make a difference.
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ziko said:
Ergo => formating internal SD doesnt touch the system => doesnt do "Factory reset"?
Right?
Factory reset with "unsafe" GB kernel format system AND internal SD.
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there is nothing called an unsafe GB kernel.. its safe
ziko said:
After that you can manually mount system and format it, also all other system partitions, from unsafe kernel.
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if its an unsafe kernel.. who will dare to wipe?
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And again, deleting all data from the phone is only possible with unsafe kernel or flashing original Samsung firmware.
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Original samsung firmware ? ex i install ICS using PC odin... damm these are non wipe. doesnt even remove old apps...
ziko said:
Formating system from a safe kernel is NOT enough for a clean phone.
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thats true.. u need to load other partition on a safe kernel and format manually.. but GB recovery does the same as well