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Enjoying Taskiller - works very well.
Most users know their apps run better once unnecessary background apps / services have been killed.
Another set of users continue to complain about specific games or apps being laggy without taking steps to solve the problem.
Case in point is the camera application which needs more memory than most and often gets out of memory exceptions.
What would be great is if Taskiller or one of the other task closing apps could create a configurable desktop shortcut that would kill all unneeded apps, then launch a preconfigured app, e.g. camera app.
Users would need to understand that clicking this button to launch another app will lose state in any running apps, but will most likely mean the game or app they then run will have far better performance and be less laggy.
Any takers?
Though im the tiniest bit of confused...
A) If this app TaskKiller (never used) worked so well, whats the need for another?
B) I am also unsure if its absolutely necessary for the android platform. Maybe older phones or WinMo phones (<6.1) have this problem. But as far as I know, android has a garbage collector in which it treats its processes with priority and after a certain utilization, it ends it (for instance. I am playing gameboid, then just hit the home button. I can go back to gameboid fine. But if I open a large app after 'minimizing' gameboid (like opening the htc music player), gameboid will end and I will have to reload it again. Though if I open msgs while gameboid is minimized, gb stays up.
Its supposed to do that. So this request I am not sure if its really necessary.
Killing background apps when memory requires is the theory behind the OS but doesn't always work in practise.
For example, play any game on Android and you'll see occasional judders in the scrolling, etc. - this is usually because a Facebook or Twitter app on the phone has decided that its a good time to get some new notifications ... but that spoils the game experience.
I hate to mention the fruity phone but this is one of the places where it beats Android hands down and their games are in a different league to ours.
I think a way to clear the phone's background processes before launching a game / resource intensive app would make a big difference.
Hi to all,
Was playing around many task manager software and etc etc to find a perfect task killing solution.
Finally found the best possible combination, now i always have 280 to 300 mb of memory free. Posting it here so that it will be useful to many.
Software needed.
1. AndMemory.[Rooting Needed].
2. Advanced Task Manager.
3. Process Monitor.
4. Fast reboot(Optional).
How to:
1. Install AndMemory and configure the preset of "Top Speed".
2. Place Advanced Task Manager's widget and Process Monitor widget in homescreen.
3.Configure the Process Monitor.
---->settings-> Autokill preferences-> [Select first 3 options].
---->settings->Widget Preferences->Widget Kill Action->[Select Kill Al Process].
---->settings->Widget Preferences->Top Value->[Process Count]
---->settings->Widget Preferences->Bottom Value->[Memory]
Thats it!!!!!
Note: If you want to free memory manually just click those two widgets placed in the homescreen.
Now the system always has more memory available, which keeps it lag free and also saves battery a lot.
Hope this helps our forum members
hey bala..can u plzz share ur weather widget or any link??
@ adiii
Search for "LG Optimus 2x weather widget" in google .
I think i should not post such links here.
People can also use "Quick Reboot" for closing applications instead of "Advanced Task Manager"
bala I cant find in the market
1. AndMemory. is the name correct?
My understanding after reading a thread here on xda is that killing the process is not helpful accept that you get higher value of free ram but many apps will again occupy the ram as they are designed to do so & by doing so they start much faster. let me find that thread I will post here.
Found that thread
Why You Shouldn’t Be Using a Task Killer with Android
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678205
After reading that I would prefer to have lag fix applied or use tweak provided by rex4u instead killing the apps that should be better .......what do you say?
@ sgsl
I read that article, nice information. But every task manager is not the same, if all the task manager simply kills the process alone then there is no difference.
The above combination gave me lagless phone usage.
Here is the link for AndMemory
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/andmemory-for-android/
This AndMemory tweaks the built in android memory management.
How memory optimizer works
http://andrs.w3pla.net/autokiller/details
whats ur opinion?
As for as rex mod of build.prop, The following are the tweaks made,
ro.ril.gprsclass=10
ro.sf.lcd_density=230
All the other are same as my original build.prop. There is no tweak for better battery management as said.
Also having one more doubt , the "ro.ril.gprsclass=10" tweak needs a customized kernel in order to work.[May be im wrong]
Waiting for reply from rex....
hey man
use Super Manager(all in one)
ur memory always 240+
when u unlock u get 313+(i get)
no more widget needed
c my result
https://market.android.com/details?id=gpc.myweb.hinet.net.TaskManager
@bala_gamer
I only installed And memory & I don't find it freeing more memory than other apps which Ihave been using so I uninstalled my apps & then checked it with And memory its still the same (always 135-200mb free) and that too you have to do it manually the auto setting even after applying do not work.
Seems i am doing something wrong with this app & more over since i installed it something is eating up my battery even in ideal night it consumed 7% where as before it was 2% in the night.
I test it for 1 more day & see if i can get 300mb as you said but I doubt that freeing 300mb will last any longer it will free up & after 2-3 mins the apps again start & would consume it.
Hi friends,
Is there any way out thr to free up memory without rooting the device , i hv tried few task killer app from market but every time i kill the processes it restart automatically .. I m really wired up with this behavior.. Also great help if anyone share links to root the device from gb 2.3.5. Is it possible to root without flashing new firmware??
You don’t need to change your ROM to get the best from your 2x, just a rooted stock ROM and a couple of apps that will change things dramatically. One thing I’ve noticed on the 2x is its memory management is too lenient and gets consumed quickly by background tasks etc. In no time I was down to 40-30Mb free memory and then my phone would run like a dog resulting in a reboot as the only solution.
Installing task and app killers are not the way, as they’ll only give you a short respite before the apps and background tasks you killed relaunch.
However, there is a solution.
1)Root your phone using SuperOneClick (piece of cake, instruction already on this forum)
2)Install “AutoKiller Memory Optimizer” by AndRS Studio free from the market
Optional
3) Install “Watchdog Task Manager” by Zolmut LLC (There’s a free or Paid version) I paid!
4) Install “Root App Remover” by Best of Best Android app
AutoKiller is not a task killer/manager it reconfigures Androids inbuilt memory manager to kill or suppress memory usage by applications and tasks. I now always have about 140-170MB free RAM at all times regardless of what I’m doing (but I do close my apps with the back button rather than click home)
AutoKiller Memory Optimizer Settings
I’ve used the ‘Extreme’ settings to ensure I have around 150MB free, and this makes a huge difference in everything I do with the phone.
----------Optional things you may want to consider-----------
Watchdog
Yeah, I know this is a task killer but Watchdog is different from other task mangers as it monitors CPU usage rather than free RAM, 3D Gallery for example is a CPU hog on my 2X, so I configured it to be killed if it consumes more than 30% CPU whilst running in the background, you’d be surprised what saps your battery!
Root App Remover
Uninstall the tosh supplied on the ROM, I removed the following, AndroidBackup (I use Titanium Backup), CarHome, F-Secure_Mobile_Security, SNS (If you’re not using the built in Facebook and Twitter app).
I also use LauncherPro with Beautiful Widgets to give my phone an almost HTC Sense look and feel and uninstalled LG Home using Root App Remover afterwards.
Hope it makes a difference for you, it did for me, vote if you like
What do you think having 140-170MB RAM free at all times actually does?
Guess what? Nothing.
I disagree, my phone runs way better now, maybe due to the fact that in part it’s killing more background tasks and enforcing better garbage collection. I want a phone that when I go to it, it responds immediately, I don’t want my phone to chug along whilst a new app is launched and android then decides to kill lower priority background tasks resulting in a choppy experience. These are my findings, and I wanted to share them. As a result using this particular application I now have a phone I can enjoy, rather than being frustrated by pausing, choppiness etc.
I would welcome your reasoning to why my post is useless, or explain why my phone is now running so well? Are you saying I’m suffering a placebo effect? Remember, this app is not a task killer, it reconfigures Androids internal memory management, see here:
http://andrs.w3pla.net/autokiller/details
and
http://androidforums.com/eris-all-things-root/158846-autokiller-vs-setcpu.html#post1452069
Finally, I’m very happy with the results.
Spadb (HTC G1, HTC HD2[CM7], LG Optimus x2
We want to see some bench marks.
Thanks for sharing! My phone does become much more responsive
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I tried the app too and i can say that it works, I also did some of the advanced tweaks.
phone seems more responsive now.
Yes, me too. It's more responsive now. Also when I open app manager, the app list is a lot faster.I know it's more related to file read/write but still it's nice to finally able to browse with less waiting time.
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thx
good one and simple, thx
cann someone please post some benchmarks?
Here are some screenshots, tested with AnTuTu Benchmark
The first one is v10c stock, some apps like f-secure, carapp etc frozen, second one is with using autokiller memory with preset extreme, third one is to compare, this was while using cm7.1 rc
now we'll see if autokiller works stable ^^
edit: realized that with cm7 something seemed to be wrong with the sd-card, so don't forget to compare the single-scores
spadb said:
I disagree, my phone runs way better now, maybe due to the fact that in part it’s killing more background tasks and enforcing better garbage collection. I want a phone that when I go to it, it responds immediately, I don’t want my phone to chug along whilst a new app is launched and android then decides to kill lower priority background tasks resulting in a choppy experience. These are my findings, and I wanted to share them. As a result using this particular application I now have a phone I can enjoy, rather than being frustrated by pausing, choppiness etc.
I would welcome your reasoning to why my post is useless, or explain why my phone is now running so well? Are you saying I’m suffering a placebo effect? Remember, this app is not a task killer, it reconfigures Androids internal memory management, see here:
http://andrs.w3pla.net/autokiller/details
and
http://androidforums.com/eris-all-things-root/158846-autokiller-vs-setcpu.html#post1452069
Finally, I’m very happy with the results.
Spadb (HTC G1, HTC HD2[CM7], LG Optimus x2
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I'm sure Rusty knows what he is talking about. Thing is, this talk about "the more free ram the better" has been repeated so many times, and at the end of the day, it seems to be more about user preference.
The default LG ROM seems to allow tasks to run in the background until it reaches around 50MB free RAM, then it starts to close tasks one by one. For multi-taskers like me, this is fine, I love how I can switch between facebook, tweetdeck, miren browser, google+, gmail, and messaging without seeing the apps reload.
For some, they'd want to open a task, close it, and move on to another without looking back. I guess that is where the 100MB of RAM is good for.
If you guys will be looking at benchmarks, I can guarantee that you will have higher scores with RAM optimizers. As benchmarks do not test multitasking, they simply check the performance of your phone at that point in time. (Which is also why some modders pump up their CPU freq to insane values before doing their bench then posting it.)
I have nothing against AKMO, and I find it very effective for Froyo builds. But I would recommend that each user try it out themselves. It's not a "1 fix for all" thing.
spadb said:
I disagree, my phone runs way better now, maybe due to the fact that in part it’s killing more background tasks and enforcing better garbage collection. I want a phone that when I go to it, it responds immediately, I don’t want my phone to chug along whilst a new app is launched and android then decides to kill lower priority background tasks resulting in a choppy experience. These are my findings, and I wanted to share them. As a result using this particular application I now have a phone I can enjoy, rather than being frustrated by pausing, choppiness etc.
I would welcome your reasoning to why my post is useless, or explain why my phone is now running so well? Are you saying I’m suffering a placebo effect? Remember, this app is not a task killer, it reconfigures Androids internal memory management, see here:
http://andrs.w3pla.net/autokiller/details
and
http://androidforums.com/eris-all-things-root/158846-autokiller-vs-setcpu.html#post1452069
Finally, I’m very happy with the results.
Spadb (HTC G1, HTC HD2[CM7], LG Optimus x2
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I'll just say this once: Free RAM is wasted RAM. If you feel´your phone is slow try adding some swap space
kiljacken said:
I'll just say this once: Free RAM is wasted RAM. If you feel´your phone is slow try adding some swap space
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Does O2X already support swap space in EXT? (Or are your referring to VM heap?)
Doesn't play well with Fr19 at all (2 reboots in 2 minutes). Maybe I touched some settings that I shouldn't though.
akyp said:
Doesn't play well with Fr19 at all (2 reboots in 2 minutes). Maybe I touched some settings that I shouldn't though.
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Yeah, FR19 is one of the more stable ROMs out there. Try full wipe then reflash maybe.
Please tell my which is best software that stops applications to run automatically at startup
tell me the application which works
no one is using any app. to stop unnecessary start up of tasks
try autostarts its very good
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Ditto on Autostarts. Also, Autokiller Memory Optimzer works really well, it doesn't kill tasks itself, it tweaks the Android function thar does it to work better.
auto killer mem optimizer workd well for me.but now i simply don use any of those batt saving app,mem apps etc i jus kill apps in inbuilt task killer...iam using my phone to the peek cause at the end ill b getting a 2ghz dual core by selling sgs.......cant stick to old things lol........cheeerz
tarunagg said:
Please tell my which is best software that stops applications to run automatically at startup
tell me the application which works
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... what?
Do any of you even understand how Android works?
so mind sharing ur exp wiv us on how it works???
manosv said:
try autostarts its very good
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+1 Autostarts. It amazes me what runs on the phone after start-up, after you switch states or update apps. The perfect cure for batt draining nonsense
rocky23 said:
so mind sharing ur exp wiv us on how it works???
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Google it. Android is Linux based. Its memory management is not the same as Windows. I'd explain further, but you're the 4,753,857,195 person to ask.
I spent 10s and googled it for you. Here's a quick link that explains it in simple terms.
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Basically having applications in RAM is a GOOD thing. Constantly killing them is likely to WORSEN PERFORMANCE AND BATTERY LIFE.
Shanakin said:
I spent 10s and googled it for you. Here's a quick link that explains it in simple terms.
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Basically having applications in RAM is a GOOD thing. Constantly killing them is likely to WORSEN PERFORMANCE AND BATTERY LIFE.
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That's right. On the other hand - permitting almost every app to load at startup isn't the best approach, as you will soon run out of memory - therefore using apps like autostart makes sense imho. But constantly killing everything isn't the right approach either. Android removes "old" apps automatically.
Bottom line:
- just letting those apps load at startup, which you use on regular basis, is fine
- using a "ram tweaker", auto-kill app, etc. is not
Kind regards,
ww
webwude said:
That's right. On the other hand - permitting almost every app to load at startup isn't the best approach, as you will soon run out of memory - therefore using apps like autostart makes sense imho. But constantly killing everything isn't the right approach either. Android removes "old" apps automatically.
Bottom line:
- just letting those apps load at startup, which you use on regular basis, is fine
- using a "ram tweaker", auto-kill app, etc. is not
Kind regards,
ww
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And when you run out of memory, Android will free memory by automatically killing cached (unused) apps. Therefore, I don't see the point of stopping apps from running at start--unless they're actually doing something in the background and not letting your phone sleep.
RAM tweaks (or memory management), on the other hand, is the only thing I use. I adjust OOM settings to adjust which apps Android closes to free memory, as well as how much free RAM Android should keep open in various situations.
upichie said:
And when you run out of memory, Android will free memory by automatically killing cached (unused) apps. Therefore, I don't see the point of stopping apps from running at start--unless they're actually doing something in the background and not letting your phone sleep.
RAM tweaks (or memory management), on the other hand, is the only thing I use. I adjust OOM settings to adjust which apps Android closes to free memory, as well as how much free RAM Android should keep open in various situations.
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Well actually I don't see the point that an app, that I hardly use once per month should be loaded everytime I start the phone or change my internet connection. Also more apps at startup increase the time when the phone is available...
But on the other hand, you are certainly right, after a while, only the latest apps are still in background / memory. What I have recognized nevertheless: if you use a lot of apps with push functionality and load on startup, the phone runs out of memory...
Kind regards,
ww
i got 2 questions 1- should i use advanced task killer and enable auto kill??
2- i really like touchwiz launcher and i don't want to change it but its always lagging btw am using modded touchwiz with 5 dock items and transparent appdrawer
soudy1994 said:
i got 2 questions 1- should i use advanced task killer and enable auto kill??
2- i really like touchwiz launcher and i don't want to change it but its always lagging btw am using modded touchwiz with 5 dock items and transparent appdrawer
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First off all which ROM and what kernel are you using !!
i have some tricks to boost up ur SGS !!!
Ashtrix said:
First off all which ROM and what kernel are you using !!
i have some tricks to boost up ur SGS !!!
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am using this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117579
with arabic fix patch and modded touchwiz
any help??
Uninstall and reinstall the modded launcher? I'm not familiar with it, so I really have no idea what the problem is. Does your phone lag anywhere besides the launcher? If not, it's probably the launcher itself.
As for an automated task killer, that is useless. Android (Linux) manages ram differently from Windows: it loads things into RAM so you can use them faster, and it kills things when it needs more space. This means that RAM is being taken up by essentially background processes—no CPU cycles are being used, and no battery is being drained, they are simply held in RAM to ensure later usability. Killing these applications, even while not in use, simply makes Android launch more apps to utilize free RAM in the background. Therefore, by closing them, you're forcing Android to open more, which consumes CPU cycles, drains your battery, etc.
If you're interested in making your phone more responsive, and have been looking towards memory management to do so, I would strongly suggest using the 'V6 SuperCharger Script'.
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I use the MegaRam setting, which leaves plenty of memory free at any given time. I believe this is what you were wanting to accomplish with the task manager; however, again, Linux does not work like Windows. It has amazing benefits, though. Give those links a look.
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Uninstall and reinstall the modded launcher? I'm not familiar with it, so I really have no idea what the problem is. Does your phone lag anywhere besides the launcher? If not, it's probably the launcher itself.
As for an automated task killer, that is useless. Android (Linux) manages ram differently from Windows: it loads things into RAM so you can use them faster, and it kills things when it needs more space. This means that RAM is being taken up by essentially background processes—no CPU cycles are being used, and no battery is being drained, they are simply held in RAM to ensure later usability. Killing these applications, even while not in use, simply makes Android launch more apps to utilize free RAM in the background. Therefore, by closing them, you're forcing Android to open more, which consumes CPU cycles, drains your battery, etc.
If you're interested in making your phone more responsive, and have been looking towards memory management to do so, I would strongly suggest using the 'V6 SuperCharger Script'.
Original Thread
Quick Tutorial
I use the MegaRam setting, which leaves plenty of memory free at any given time. I believe this is what you were wanting to accomplish with the task manager; however, again, Linux does not work like Windows. It has amazing benefits, though. Give those links a look.
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That was awesome dude!!
nice post!
hey soudy1994 try the above post, i was gonna post that but he got it
topped with some extra easy tutorial !
These may also help you in boosting your SGS !
Build.prop tweaks (only if your ROM support for build.prop & init.d).
SAS Tweak.!
i think the above tweaks may have Juwe's Ramhack,i recommend go through em once and if the ramscript is not present you can have it, use the script manager (from the above tutorial )if you are a newbie !
I have phone patched with SAS tweaks+Juwe's script !
and finally would say try Jetpack ROM it has SAS tweaks built in and Solid kernel based on CF-root (semaphore)!
try my sign !