So this is the future thread of DATA2EXT.
Basically this is a hack to mount part of /data onto the SDcard, improving I/O thoroughput, as data will be written to internal NAND and SDCard. (Theoretically)
I've currently gotten really close to a functional DATA2EXT.
About to flash the next test, and I think I got it this time.
Progress will be posted here.
v1: Failed. Not that easy.
v2: OOOHHH. Still failed.
v3: Mhmm. THAT should do it.
v4: Heyyy! Found an error! *fixes. Trying now =] Failed as well.
v5: Failed failed.
lots more fails.
v17 Trying new idea now!
Bugs go herreeeeeeeeeeeeee
Maybe some random stuff here xD
Thanks man I'm excited about this thanks for looking into it.
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Thanks man I'm excited about this thanks for looking into it.
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EDIT: Haha... I realize that this quote has nothing to do with cyanogen's warning xD Oh well
Yup yup. I respect cyanogen, but from what I've read, it seems his main issues are:
1. Doesn't actually help anything.
2. Doesn't get wiped, so errors between ROMs will occur.
However, theoretically, it SHOULD help. Read / write is now spread across NAND and SD, so should increase I/O. But again, real-world difference has yet to be looked at.
Wiping it IS possible. One could delete the partition, and the recreate it. Wipe. What cyanogen seems to mean is that it's not baked into clockworkmod. It means that a separate zip will have to be included for those who want to wipe.
But again, I've yet to get it actually functional. Once it's functional, the performance vs risk can be weighed.
On another note, I've seen talk about DATA2InternalStorage. It certainly makes sense, we've a whole 6GB to play around with, and it should be really fast. However, the added r/w that occurs with DATA2X should drastically reduce life. And since we can't change it out... not a good idea.
The SD card can be changed out very very easily, so a shorter life shouldn't matter too much. And I'm not sure of the logistics, but if internal storage is on the same NAND as /data, then moving writes over to there really won't improve anything.
Anyways, I'm testing v4 now after my phone charges a little more. *crosses fingers.
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What partition layout is needed for this? Maybe you've already seen it, but I've been following THIS, also.
hopefully this helps with real life performance too. When I compare the inc to the crazy fast new devices out there, I feel a bit jealous. If I see some increased speed/smoothness, it will certainly be worth it for me. Also, will it be possible to get this in a flashable zip format? 1 for AOSP Roms, 1 for Desire Z/HD/MT4G Roms, 1 for old sense based roms or am I smoking the wrong pipe in thinking this way?
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What partition layout is needed for this? Maybe you've already seen it, but I've been following THIS, also.
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I've been tweaking the script to work for the DInc. I had to change the place where it mounts stuff, and I've finally got bootup. However, still a billion force closes. Digging into this...
This is all very interesting and I thank you for taking the time to try and get it to work. I just hope in the end it is worth the effort
I agree! Can't wait to test for you! And again thanks for putting your personal time toward improving our devices!!!
How did it go? Any luck getting it stabilized?
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How did it go? Any luck getting it stabilized?
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=[. Noope. Failed failed failed. haha, but at least I'm making some progress. About to try again now, I'm getting closer each time xP
After so many failed attempts, I am forced to give up.
It's too much work for too little gain.
The whole point of DATA2EXT is twofold: Increase /data space for apps, and increase I/O.
The Desire (what this was originally designed for) has a 150mb /data partition. That's hilariously small.
The Inc has a ~700 mb /data partition.
Hilariously huge.
So, the /data space point is moot.
As for the I/O speeds, there are no real-world benefits. Yes, I/O will increase dramatically in Quadrant, but that's it. Quadrant writes a pretty large amount of files to read I/O, so difference in I/O speed helps.
But that's not the case with apps. Apps store their data in /data/data. The whole of which is usually about 170kb. Yes, Kb. Not even an MB. If I write at 1mb/sec, I'm done in about 0.1 seconds. The I/O will increase throughput to ~2.6mb/sec. I'm done in about 0.065 seconds. That's a 0.035 second difference.
Again, that's if EVERY SINGLE app was writing at once. 0.035 seconds. Negligible.
Haha, I do realize I am making such a strong case against it because I couldn't get it to work xD
So, in the end, Cyanogen was right xP It's just a benchmark hack. Real world performance doesn't depend on I/O.
got it. Now it makes more sense. thanks
finally come to the same conclusion?
i worked on it for a bit, did a bit of research, got it to boot.
after researching a bit more-and being stuck at the FCs where you were-i gave up. cost/benefit ratio just wasnt gootd enough
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finally come to the same conclusion?
i worked on it for a bit, did a bit of research, got it to boot.
after researching a bit more-and being stuck at the FCs where you were-i gave up. cost/benefit ratio just wasnt gootd enough
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Haha, yeah. It's like there's some hidden mount file that I can't control. bleh. It did get kinda funny, EVERY single app FCed and I tried to tap my way through xD Yeah... didn't work so well xP
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Haha, yeah. It's like there's some hidden mount file that I can't control. bleh. It did get kinda funny, EVERY single app FCed and I tried to tap my way through xD Yeah... didn't work so well xP
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ya, you tap REAL fast and think you got all the way through, get a glimpse of a black screen, the BAM! FC for EVERY single app
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I see a lot of porting and creating being done such as Hero roms, Blur, Pulse, and everything else we can get out hands on (and I'm thankful for all of it)
But I was curious if we could make mixture rom with a little bit of everything.
I really like the Pulse's Canvas 3x3 home screen display
And the Behold ii's Notification bar with shortcuts to the wifi,gps, etc.
Hero's this
Blur's that.
Etc.
Would if be too much of a mess with framework and odex's files to mash into one rom?
Highly possible, and very easy... All you need is the source code to all the ROMs you are mixing.... So let me reword that - Highly impossible, and very hard.
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Highly possible, and very easy... All you need is the source code to all the ROMs you are mixing.... So let me reword that - Highly impossible, and very hard.
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lol Nicely put
EDIT: WOOHOO POST 1000
It might be possible but I think we'd struggle to fit it on a g1 anyway.. By the time you've ported all the neccessary framework to support everything, I think you'd be way past the 90-odd meg we have to play with.... and that's assuming all those packages would play nicely together in the first place.. I'm not about to try it.
Aw shucks, it's a beautiful idea though you all have to admit lol.
But ok well my minute is up I don't mind this thread being moved or deleted thanks guys
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It might be possible but I think we'd struggle to fit it on a g1 anyway.. By the time you've ported all the neccessary framework to support everything, I think you'd be way past the 90-odd meg we have to play with.... and that's assuming all those packages would play nicely together in the first place.. I'm not about to try it.
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90?? I thought the G1 could take up to like a 100+
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90?? I thought the G1 could take up to like a 100+
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And that, dear boy, is why your updates failed. Past about 92 MB you exceed the system allowable update size. We haven't gotten an update that installs directly to the ext yet, although we could do it that way...
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And that, dear boy, is why your updates failed. Past about 92 MB you exceed the system allowable update size. We haven't gotten an update that installs directly to the ext yet, although we could do it that way...
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XD hahha. did i mention i love you twisted? your post quality is off the charts
In all seriousness, though, get an update.zip to mount the ext before install and you could put the apps directly on it and just symlink the folder temporarily for first boot, then let the system remove and recreate the link...
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In all seriousness, though, get an update.zip to mount the ext before install and you could put the apps directly on it and just symlink the folder temporarily for first boot, then let the system remove and recreate the link...
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That's true. I think we really have something here. Perhaps this thread could become a think tank for getting 100Mb+ roms working. Yes? The only thing is... we don't have a 100Mb+ rom to work on... Hm...
there's a rom floating around here that manages something similar, it's a hero rom with hero apps and the blur launcher with some mixed anims and visuals, a personal favorite of mine, you should check it out, I think it's by diaztradeinc, but I'm not sure, I'll look it up and let you know
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In all seriousness, though, get an update.zip to mount the ext before install and you could put the apps directly on it and just symlink the folder temporarily for first boot, then let the system remove and recreate the link...
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So edit the update-script and set the symlinking on the firstboot.sh?
format everything lol
we could format the whole g1 and add the stuffs that we need
or format a 2gb and up sdcard to ext3-4 and put everything on it
I was planning to that. I was trying to put all files from the g1 hard drive to my sdcard but ran out of space. In theory it is possible but you will need a very motived dev to do this.
I think this was the one, but now that I saw it, it looks like this one uses a rosie skinned like the blur's launcher. I remember I had seen another one that actually used the blur launcher on the hero apps/framework, I'd need to dig a bit deeper
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567122
oh, and, honestly, even if we had the source for every single release, I'm very, very sure you still wouldn't see some sort of mashup rom. Why? think about what has been done so far with the available source from android? Other than a few modifications to Launcher, mms, phone, and settings apks (and stericson's lockscreen mods), there's been very little done from the code. Why? because most people here don't even know java. Having the source would still be useless to most people here, let alone actually making something out of it. So, actually, in the mean time, it seems that if this is going to work, the way it's going to be done is the easy way, the way it's been done up to now, just mash things together and force them to work.
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just mash things together and force them to work.
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This could be my epitaph...
jubeh said:
there's a rom floating around here that manages something similar, it's a hero rom with hero apps and the blur launcher with some mixed anims and visuals, a personal favorite of mine, you should check it out, I think it's by diaztradeinc, but I'm not sure, I'll look it up and let you know
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I believe this WAS the rom u were looking for. I dl'ed it a long time ago, but never flashed it so I couldn't tell u for sure. Its been long since deleated, so I can't try for u now, sorry.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=557982
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I believe this WAS the rom u were looking for. I dl'ed it a long time ago, but never flashed it so I couldn't tell u for sure. Its been long since deleated, so I can't try for u now, sorry.
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Nah, that wasn't it. Most (all?) of drizzy's roms were a joke anyway. I have the rom somewhere in my computer (did I mention I have like 30 GB of roms that I've downloaded? basically, if it's on androidspin, it's on my computer too), so I'll look for it.
To be honest guys I don't think space is a problem at all.
While everyone is going around asking if the g1 will get the 2.0 update I'm very confident we'll be running android 3.0 on our g1's eventually we'll just need to figure out a way to put it on the sd card which I'm sure we can figure out.
It's a shame though, I was hoping we should manage something like that.
A home replacement that uses the Pulse's canvas
Some editis to the notification bar.
Etc etc etc.
But I guess it ties into what someone said about not knowing how to write in the specific code needed which is understandable.
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But I guess it ties into what someone said about not knowing how to write in the specific code needed which is understandable.
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Not yet...since ive been here reading and following along (+ testing ofcourse ) for over a year now, people have progressed amazingly here! More and more are starting to figure out that this is something we all should invest in. Give it more time, more people will learn or come through that are genius coders.
Down the road I absolutely see people writing their own androids, like linux is now. Distributions (or highly modified current builds).
Sort of how hero changed everything, we had the basic one tab at the bottom, then all of a sudden this came out and we had many tabs and new interactions.
Anything is possible with this, just give maybe another 6 months, but def. a year will bring some talent through. Just hope the g1 holds till then
I'm willing to Donate to get this done
here is the link to download the rom and also the kitchen. I know absolutely nothing about this stuff. I Hope im not giving links to stuff that is not helpful.
http://android.modaco.com/content/g...htc-sense-desire-rom-now-with-online-kitchen/
if someone is already working on this, Im very grateful.
Thanks Myn for pointing all this out
Ive had this downloaded for a while and expect if no one has it ported by the time I get my phone and my first build tested I'll give it a go. I'm expecting however because it's designed for a higher resolution that while I can get it to boot the resolution is going to cause framework issues.
I'll keep you guys posted.
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Ive had this downloaded for a while and expect if no one has it ported by the time I get my phone and my first build tested I'll give it a go. I'm expecting however because it's designed for a higher resolution that while I can get it to boot the resolution is going to cause framework issues.
I'll keep you guys posted.
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Awesome. Thanks for your efforts! However, I am concerned about the speed/functionality. I doubt this will be usable on a daily basis even if it does boot.
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Awesome. Thanks for your efforts! However, I am concerned about the speed/functionality. I doubt this will be usable on a daily basis even if it does boot.
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Yeah. I go for speed too. All the nice extras you get with sense is cool but the speed and workability of donut is why I haven't switched to Eclair.
im interested in the flash support. I just remember when we couldnt pull the flash out of the hero properly without the framework, so i figure this wouldnt be possible either. I would be willing to try the rom if someone ported it though
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im interested in the flash support. I just remember when we couldnt pull the flash out of the hero properly without the framework, so i figure this wouldnt be possible either. I would be willing to try the rom if someone ported it though
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I saw a youtube video with flash 10 working on a G1. Maybe theres a way?
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im interested in the flash support. I just remember when we couldnt pull the flash out of the hero properly without the framework, so i figure this wouldnt be possible either. I would be willing to try the rom if someone ported it though
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I'll have this for tomorrow for sure I'm working my new eclair build and another dump at the moment but it's still on my radar and I told you I would
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I'll have this for tomorrow for sure I'm working my new eclair build and another dump at the moment but it's still on my radar and I told you I would
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How's the speed on this?
This would be awesome to take for a test spin even if its slow, rumor has it the HTC Desire is supposed to be one of the Android phones for ATT. Its about time. IF so this is the one I'm holding out for.
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Yeah. I go for speed too. All the nice extras you get with sense is cool but the speed and workability of donut is why I haven't switched to Eclair.
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Yeah, my #1 priority beyond all others is for speed / stability... and sense never came close for me
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Yeah, my #1 priority beyond all others is for speed / stability... and sense never came close for me
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Sense was fast enough on the later builds for me but i always had issues with phone calls coming through without the delay no matter what build i tried. I would like to try and flash one though. I have only done sd card with sense.
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I'll have this for tomorrow for sure I'm working my new eclair build and another dump at the moment but it's still on my radar and I told you I would
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Thanks man, be expecting a donation for doing this!! Much appreciated
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Thanks man, be expecting a donation for doing this!! Much appreciated
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Couple roadblocks in the way.. the build is designed for the snapdragon cpu. I've not been successfull in the past at getting them going 100% (sorry I didn't realize this when I said I'd be able to do it) and I've been working on my build all day..
I don't tend to give up on things though so I'll come back around to it in a bit.
Did someone say snapdragon? VZW + Nexus =
AFAIK the Android version of Flash 10.1 is ARMv7-only because Adobe wanted to limit its usage to high-end phones... And since it's closed-source, unless Adobe releases an ARMv5/6 version, it's pretty much.hopeless.
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AFAIK the Android version of Flash 10.1 is ARMv7-only because Adobe wanted to limit its usage to high-end phones... And since it's closed-source, unless Adobe releases an ARMv5/6 version, it's pretty much.hopeless.
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well there we go
I still play with it, but assuming gTan's info is correct than it's not going to work.
As far as size of OS is it possible to do a split install between NAND and SDCARD?
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As far as size of OS is it possible to do a split install between NAND and SDCARD?
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I suppose that could be set up. not optimal though, I'd rather just clean it out and free up space.
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I suppose that could be set up. not optimal though, I'd rather just clean it out and free up space.
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I've tried cleaning up vilords tattoo build, still uses a lot of space removed a lot of htcextras that I don't use need or want. but if I remove the wrong things I have problems still working on it though the most I can get is close to 52 mb free internal memory before I sync all of my contacts. This is why I was curious if you could I tried splitting the install I suppose I have to have a partitioned SD card to get it to work right I get a lot of I/O device errors
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I've tried cleaning up vilords tattoo build, still uses a lot of space removed a lot of htcextras that I don't use need or want. but if I remove the wrong things I have problems still working on it though the most I can get is close to 52 mb free internal memory before I sync all of my contacts. This is why I was curious if you could I tried splitting the install I suppose I have to have a partitioned SD card to get it to work right I get a lot of I/O device errors
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Yes, you would need an ext2 parition on your sd, and a custom install script to set it all up.
Is there any app available that can do this???
Nope.
But the request does come up enough that maybe I should write up something simple...
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Nope.
But the request does come up enough that maybe I should write up something simple...
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That would be awesome. A lot of times theres no specs on the speed of cards out there and your not really sure of what you are buying. It would be awesome.
excellent idea for an app. there are cards out there that do not list there class and cards that are listed as class 2 yet reach class 6 speeds.
cheers,
ryan
If you guys would give me a good algorithim to test read/write speeds I can work on it later tonight. It will probably take a few days a best.
But My idea is write a 2 meg file to the SD card, time it. Read the same file from the card, time it. Do a little math...present some numbers...
Now there are a lot of issues that could come into play with that method. Maybe repeat it 3 or 4 times just to see an average, but still its not the best that it could be.
What about just getting a microsd adapter or even mounting it to the computer. And then run a program that tests read/write speeds and use it on the card. like h2testw or something :/
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What about just getting a microsd adapter or even mounting it to the computer. And then run a program that tests read/write speeds and use it on the card. like h2testw or something :/
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1. On the phone is just cooler
2. On another thread about this topic there was debate about how accurate it would be to use an adapter or mounting as a drive. Adding cable seems to me like it could increase latency and you are no longer using the phones OS to test its internal stuff. ( i know its USB its faster than the card anyways, but see #1)
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If you guys would give me a good algorithim to test read/write speeds I can work on it later tonight. It will probably take a few days a best.
But My idea is write a 2 meg file to the SD card, time it. Read the same file from the card, time it. Do a little math...present some numbers...
Now there are a lot of issues that could come into play with that method. Maybe repeat it 3 or 4 times just to see an average, but still its not the best that it could be.
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You can start from there then trial and error. I was thinking you can take a look at any of the web SpeedTests in the market and learn something from there.
If you are on linux you can mount the phone and run
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hdparm -tT /dev/sdd
where sdd is the phones drive(could be different on your machine)
That will give you a read speed but would would be limited by your USB read speed.
Hdparm is not built into android so you can't run it from the phone. There is one command that is built in that can measure speeds... However it is VERY VERY VERY dangerous so I hesitate to post it here but... dd
For the love of God do not mess with dd unless you read up on it and fully understand it. You could very easily measure write speed as well as read with dd but you would need an empty card because you would have to just blindly write to the blocks on the card. Doing which will at the bare minimum if you know what you are doing overwrite stuff on the card. Worst case is you mess up your partition table and have to re-partition. So I will only point you in the direction of dd and not post any code on how to use it for fear of some idiot entering the code and wiping their phone(although they would have to know how to use adb shell so they wouldn't be complete idiots)
This would be a useful app. I have a class 6 PNY SD and want to know how fast it really is.
Wow, what an AMAZING idea for an app. I would be more than happy to help and test!!!
Sooo
I am working on this guys.
I have gotten the program writing a file out to the SDcard. It just a randomly filled Byte Array being parsed to a file on the SDcard a few times, then reading it back off (Haven't got the reading part yet). I am running into some FC issues and also getting the timer to work is being a PITA. Android doesn't like my threads for some reason.
If I have time this week maybe I can get it done - or at least working, but I have some stuff going on that may slow down progress.
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Also if anyone that is not quite so Artisticly Challenged as I am wants to get me some drawables. I can use an Icon and a 320x480 image back ground (Let's try to keep it simple , I have seen some of your boot screens. lol)
Bump for moral support!
couldn't you just pop it into an adapter, and use HD Tune on your pc? http://www.hdtune.com/
I think the concept of the app request is so people don't have to turn off theory beloved heroes and pull battery just to get to the SD card, babe.
couldn't you just pop it into an adapter, and use HD Tune on your pc? http://www.hdtune.com/
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Kcarpenter, if you don't mind me asking what the status on this?
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Well, it reads and writes a 6 meg file while spinning a wait cursor LOL.
Been working on final projects the past few weeks.
Might have something out 2 week of june.
As it stands now:
1)Need to setup a time mechanism - probably most acurate to grab a time stamp before the start and after the finish. Threads tend to get time messed up.
2)After the file is written and the time is figured out. Need to display the read/write results.
3)Then need to cleanup the file and ram after everything is done.
Also, I have seen the file only become half of the size it should be (3 mb)....which I think has something to do with UTF (Chars taking up 2 bytes)....but I am not sure yet.
And on top of that...who the hell knows if its accurate LOL.
But it's been interesting and fun.
haha, well thats good. keeps you interested then. i honestly dont kknow anything about programming and what not, so i cant help you there. buuuutttt when you finish and need testers i can help. well try anyways
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haha, well thats good. keeps you interested then. i honestly dont kknow anything about programming and what not, so i cant help you there. buuuutttt when you finish and need testers i can help. well try anyways
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I am really interested to see if it's even remotly accurate.
Seems like creating a 6 meg file and writing it out from memory to the card would surely test well... But there are a crap ton of things that could come into play and effect it.
I guess we'll only know if we try.
unless my phone explodes, i see nothing wrong with trying it out.
I'm itching to install it but I'd like to hear from some people who have used it first.
I'd advise against it.
No need, since no weak memory allocation and management like the DX2.
I did it worked had to get correct busybox version couldn't tell if anything really happened but why the avoid krazy?
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Have you rebooted your device? If not give that a go, and tell me how it works out for you.
I didn’t' even execute any options with the script and it cause me to bootloop once I rebooted, and someone else experienced the same.
I did bootlooped factory rest got my stuff back re-supercharged and works fine I even did a reboot after 30mins and still worked
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No need, since no weak memory allocation and management like the DX2.
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I figured as much, but I am getting a pretty decent amount of lag, even after fully removing bloatware (about 32 apps total). I don't see how people are claiming 200mb free. Even after bloatware removal, I still only have 80-130 free at any given time, and I personally hate using an app-killer.
Don't get me wrong, I do know that Android will try and use up any memory that is free and that having a low number of RAM available isn't a bad thing. But, as I stated earlier, I am experiencing a good amount of lag from time to time (mainly due to my widgets I would assume).
I did a factory reset and a battery pull 2 days ago, and the boot-up process is twice as fast now...just as it was when I first bought the phone. But the lag is still present, and the REDRAWING is driving me absolutely insane.
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Have you rebooted your device? If not give that a go, and tell me how it works out for you.
I didn’t' even execute any options with the script and it cause me to bootloop once I rebooted, and someone else experienced the same.
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Yeah. That was me. I did run the script though. It didn't even get past the Droid part of the boot animation. A factory reset will fix it, and you'll still have root after.
Silly rabbits V6 is for Froyo!
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Silly rabbits V6 is for Froyo!
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not true; v6 is for all android OS released so far. It was specifically developed for Gingerbread, but works well on Froyo also.
BUT: There are still conflicting reports that changes it makes in the /system folder may cause problems with the D3, so until an .sbf is available, i'd proceed with great caution doing ANYTHING to the D3 that is not entirely in userspace.
I removed most of the bloat I was comfortable pulling off... but I must say the biggest jump in responsiveness has been from tweaking the build.prop to increase the events per second (I'm at 120) and VM memory (64m).
Please, err on the side of caution right now as we have no sbf, no clockwork recovery. I had to sbf my D2 enough times playing with things I didn't think had a chance of breaking it, that did, that I'm very careful what I poke at on my daily driver, and urge you to as well
I know it stores media scan db. Unlike previous Android versions, the OS does not let one wipe it's data or even force stop it. Using "pm clear com.android.providers.media" from ADB is, apparently, still allowed but doesn't seem to fix anything. It seem to recreate the db, judging by all the ringtones/notification tones getting reset everywhere, but it's data size remains about 3.8gb, which is insane. Media scanner apps show 401 total media files found, 355 images, 22 video and 24 audio files, those amounts should be far cry from being a big deal. What in the world is going on?! I don't have root, so i can't peek in /data/data/com.android.providers.media. I absolutely do not want to hard reset either.
Any ideas?
False alert. System UI seems to report the entire shared storage at "data" of that app, which has mislead me. Not sure if i should delete this thread now, or keep it in case someone else happens to notice this and wonders.
I had telegram do that to me before, kind of. Like, how did all these pictures get here and stuff...
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It was a false alarm from my side, it didn't actually blow that db out of proportions, it just mistakenly shows everything on the "internal storage" as belonging to that app data. Guess it just counts everything created by whatever Linux user MTP runs on, and everything there belongs to that user.
BTW, since when did they disable wiping the data on it? Is it new on Android 11, or did i skip too many Android versions, lol. Still possible over adb, with pm, though. Gladly, doesn't follow the same logic the counting does!
InfX said:
BTW, since when did they disable wiping the data on it? Is it new on Android 11, or did i skip too many Android versions, lol. Still possible over adb, with pm, though. Gladly, doesn't follow the same logic the counting does!
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I've not got an answer. I remember that on like ics or honeycomb gingerbread.
A while ago, anyway.
Well good news on your findings! When things like that happen it's crazy strange
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There's the reset option under settings system now I guess
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I've not got an answer. I remember that on like ics or honeycomb gingerbread.
A while ago, anyway.
Well good news on your findings! When things like that happen it's crazy strange
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Indeed it is crazy strange. I've had this db getting huge before on older devices, but my first though was "how the hell, the phone is a week old", second thought "screw it, wipe and let it rescan", and then i see it still huge, lol.
Keeping this thread instead of deleting it, who knows, maybe in a month from now someone is going to wonder about the same thing.
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Indeed it is crazy strange. I've had this db getting huge before on older devices, but my first though was "how the hell, the phone is a week old", second thought "screw it, wipe and let it rescan", and then i see it still huge, lol.
Keeping this thread instead of deleting it, who knows, maybe in a month from now someone is going to wonder about the same thing.
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I'd sure not delete it.
If you think starting this thread was bad.
Man, I've posted worse, unfortunately. Being a super noob once
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InfX said:
Indeed it is crazy strange. I've had this db getting huge before on older devices, but my first though was "how the hell, the phone is a week old", second thought "screw it, wipe and let it rescan", and then i see it still huge, lol.
Keeping this thread instead of deleting it, who knows, maybe in a month from now someone is going to wonder about the same thing.
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And I just did, LOL. Good that it was not closed xD
InfX said:
False alert. System UI seems to report the entire shared storage at "data" of that app, which has mislead me. Not sure if i should delete this thread now, or keep it in case someone else happens to notice this and wonders.
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It is not a false alert. You're partially right. The data isn't actually used by mediastorage because it just links to media files on the system. The problem is that Android is stupid enough to not have an exclusion for mediastorage's usage report.
In other words, Android is dumb enough to think that mediastorage is actually using all that space which will lead to a lack of storage space on your phone.