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Vibrant and Future Proofing

Hey Guys,
I'm on the fence about buying a Vibrant and I'd love some perspective from you guys, the dev community.
I saw the Vibrant, love the screen and overall performance...however, I'm concerned about the future (6-9) months out.
The device is supposed to get Froyo..but what about Gingerbread?
How is the dev-ability of this device? Might there be a custom ROM to 1) have Froyo before Samsung 'blesses us' with it...what about Gingerbread?
Thanks guys - I'm new to this scene and appreciate your perspective.

wrong section. this is not development.

phantasm714 said:
wrong section. this is not development.
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I'm confused...the breadcrumb at the top of the page says:
Samsung Vibrant > Vibrant Android Development
where'd I go wrong?

techcraver said:
Hey Guys,
I'm on the fence about buying a Vibrant and I'd love some perspective from you guys, the dev community.
I saw the Vibrant, love the screen and overall performance...however, I'm concerned about the future (6-9) months out.
The device is supposed to get Froyo..but what about Gingerbread?
How is the dev-ability of this device? Might there be a custom ROM to 1) have Froyo before Samsung 'blesses us' with it...what about Gingerbread?
Thanks guys - I'm new to this scene and appreciate your perspective.
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for future posts like this, belongs better in the general section not the development secion... link below to general
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=709
phantasm714 said:
wrong section. this is not development.
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such an unhelpful post. If you don't plan on helping, don't bother wasting the time to make a post like this, the only thing it helps is your post count and that means jack..

techcraver said:
I'm confused...the breadcrumb at the top of the page says:
Samsung Vibrant > Vibrant Android Development
where'd I go wrong?
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He means your question is not about development.

psychoace said:
He means your question is not about development.
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ok...part of it was. it was a Q to the devs about the potential to put ROMs on this device.
I read on an Android blog comment that even though the phone has been rooted, that drivers are not 'in the open' so therefore ROMs would not be possible. I'm wanting to fact-check this

rsfaze said:
for future posts like this, belongs better in the general section not the development secion... link below to general
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=709
such an unhelpful post. If you don't plan on helping, don't bother wasting the time to make a post like this, the only thing it helps is your post count and that means jack..
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boo hoo. so im not helping. it says RIGHT IN THE FIRST STICKY
"This is Development Section, not General.. Do NOT post questions here.. SEARCH the forum before posting a new thread"
sorry if im a LITTLE callous to people not reading and cluttering up dev.

techcraver said:
ok...part of it was. it was a Q to the devs about the potential to put ROMs on this device.
I read on an Android blog comment that even though the phone has been rooted, that drivers are not 'in the open' so therefore ROMs would not be possible. I'm wanting to fact-check this
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This is wrong. We will DEFINITELY see custom roms for this device.

I'm clapping my hands in joy and excitement
could custom ROMs include the possibility of Froyo, even before Samsung brings it 'officially'?

techcraver said:
I'm clapping my hands in joy and excitement
could custom ROMs include the possibility of Froyo, even before Samsung brings it 'officially'?
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No definitive answer to that, but more than likely. Almost every previous device has either received a custom unreleased or early leaked android build. No worries though, we won't be waiting long for an official 2.2 dump. FYI, this device will eventually get Gingerbread. Google has already reported that all devices running a 1ghz processor will receive Gingerbread. However, don't expect that until AT LEAST the end of the year, possibly later.

I would suspect that we will start seeing Froyo roms come out between the time Samsung releases the "official" froyo rom and T-Mobile pushing said rom to the handsets.

Rooting was available for me even before i purchased the phone. Now i found out, Cyanogen Mod 6 is on the works. I believe that is froyo. Also, Clockwork recovery is as well. I believe we are in good hands. Future looks good so far being the phone out in my hands only 5 days.

ok cool. I was holding back on buying a Vibrant because I don't want to plunk down $500 bones and then have this thing be obsolete when Gingerbread comes out.

I'm still wondering the "open source" status of the driver of Vibrant. Someone said it's closed thus may affect the custom ROM progress? Can anyone elaborate on this a little bit?

CM6 for vibrant is being actively developed right now, its in an alpha0 stage, and should be finished(within a week hopefully) as for Gingerbread, I have no clue whether we will get that working on the vibrant, dont know the requirements, but since the vibrant is the fastest handset currently available, im thinking gingerbread will happen. Also we have plenty of space, plenty of ram, and a 1ghz processor, we'll be seeing dual core handsets at the end of the year/early next year, until then im happy to be getting my vibrant tomorrow shipped to me by tmobile.
some french guy already got froyo working on the galaxy s, its being worked on and will happen.
I'm also very happy tmobile has a Equiptment installment plan for me, since ive been using the G1 since October 08, im very happy to upgrade to this device

t1n0m3n said:
I would suspect that we will start seeing Froyo roms come out between the time Samsung releases the "official" froyo rom and T-Mobile pushing said rom to the handsets.
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Since CM6 is froyo, we'll definitely see that before we see the official froyo rom from samsung. It'll be stock android--just like the nexus one style of look-- but at least it's android 2.2.
Once froyo (touchwiz ui) from samsung is released, we will definitely get a lot of froyo ROMs from our community, or if you're still stock then you can get the official update

Min. requirement for gingerbread.
1 Ghz Processor
512 mb RAM
3.5" Screen
Anybody know exactly how many mb of RAM Galaxy S have?

sl8125 said:
Anybody know exactly how many mb of RAM Galaxy S have?
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A simple Google search tells me 512...

So, do people get flamed for posting dev or theme stuff in the GENERAL section? Just pondering...

ryanolson7 said:
Since CM6 is froyo, we'll definitely see that before we see the official froyo rom from samsung. It'll be stock android--just like the nexus one style of look-- but at least it's android 2.2.
Once froyo (touchwiz ui) from samsung is released, we will definitely get a lot of froyo ROMs from our community, or if you're still stock then you can get the official update
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And where would the aforementioned CM6 be?

[Q] Evo 2.2 port to Hero possible?

This may have already been discussed but I couldn't find anything in the search. Has anyone done this or is it even possible to do? Are there any other ways to get 2.2 with sense on the Hero?

Not possible from evo. Its build for a different processor. Best bet will be when the legend gets there official release and gets ported over.

Q&A, not development.

neuro_genesis said:
Q&A, not development.
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Its a question about development but thanks for the useless comment.

so one of my buddies that works at sprint told me august 13th the hero might get an official 2.2 update, i hope he is right

thoughtlesskyle said:
so one of my buddies that works at sprint told me august 13th the hero might get an official 2.2 update, i hope he is right
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and the little birdy on my balcony told me your friend is full of ****!

thoughtlesskyle said:
so one of my buddies that works at sprint told me august 13th the hero might get an official 2.2 update, i hope he is right
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Except Sprint already stated that the Hero and the Moment aren't getting updates to 2.2

rundmcarlson said:
Its a question about development but thanks for the useless comment.
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Which is why it goes in the Q&A section.... because it's for Questions .... You'll come to understand that we like things orderly around here... Anyway... as been answered, no not possible...
And 2.2 getting to Hero? Hah... no, not happening

Anything is possible. Officially? Probably not. Besides JIT, I cant see it offering anything worthwhile for me personally. I have a computer for junk requiring flash. My hero, currently, is blazing fast and so responsive that Im left thinking about my next touch...my device is always waiting on me.
I want a cdma legend.

Hero won't get an official 2.2 update. Sprint has said so already. That's not to say they won't release an update on August 13, but it won't be 2.2

who cares where this is supposed to be but it's here now. Anyways what really should be asked is whether someone is gonna port the desire 2.2 official rom to busy watching evo

thatguythatdid said:
who cares where this is supposed to be but it's here now. Anyways what really should be asked is whether someone is gonna port the desire 2.2 official rom to busy watching evo
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agreed....

SirRipo said:
Hero won't get an official 2.2 update. Sprint has said so already. That's not to say they won't release an update on August 13, but it won't be 2.2
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Knowing Sprint it will be an update back to 1.5.

As far as I know, the closest thing to a fully functional Froyo on the CDMA Hero would be Cyanogenmod 6.
According to this link, the only thing NOT working is the PREVIEW for the camera apps. Otherwise, from what I've read, its an all around stable ROM ready for daily use.. As long as you're not co-dependent on your camera.
I'm thinking of taking the leap today.

thatguythatdid said:
who cares where this is supposed to be but it's here now. Anyways what really should be asked is whether someone is gonna port the desire 2.2 official rom to busy watching evo
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Desire froyo is way to big to be ported. The best chances for a full port of froyo is from a legend build which when it comes out in the next month or so I already know someone who is getting ready for the port. Other than that the home made froyo is all that's gonna work for now.

jUgGsY said:
As far as I know, the closest thing to a fully functional Froyo on the CDMA Hero would be Cyanogenmod 6.
According to this link, the only thing NOT working is the PREVIEW for the camera apps. Otherwise, from what I've read, its an all around stable ROM ready for daily use.. As long as you're not co-dependent on your camera.
I'm thinking of taking the leap today.
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Been using CM6T4 for over a month as daily... camera preview? Just use camera magic for that and for camcorder... well that's the sacrifice I made to have this phone run waaayyy faster and the battery life last waaayy longer than any other ROM out there

DirtyShroomz said:
Which is why it goes in the Q&A section.... because it's for Questions .... You'll come to understand that we like things orderly around here... Anyway... as been answered, no not possible...
And 2.2 getting to Hero? Hah... no, not happening
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Are you serious??? Have you not seen the post for CM6.0.0?
Just so you know, that's Froyo, build FRF91, overclocked to 768mhz. Only thing that doesn't work is flash, b/c it's written for an arm7 processor, not an arm6.

Ryoma Echizen said:
Are you serious??? Have you not seen the post for CM6.0.0?
Just so you know, that's Froyo, build FRF91, overclocked to 768mhz. Only thing that doesn't work is flash, b/c it's written for an arm7 processor, not an arm6.
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Yes im using FRF91 but I have not seen a reason to upgrade past T4... I am overclocked to 768 and using everything that the new build has.... but again, no reason to upgrade past that.

the new nightly builds have camera preview and camcorder working

G2 ROM

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/29/t-mobile-g2-build-flashes-to-other-devices-to-great-results-new/
I'm new at android but i saw this post and i am assuming the other phones its been flashed too are htc but i was still wondering if this could be flashed on the captivate? i know it seems dumb but mayb it can be

i would bet it wont work

ya i mean i didnt think so but i thought it might have a slim chance

oldskooldawgz said:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/29/t-mobile-g2-build-flashes-to-other-devices-to-great-results-new/
I'm new at android but i saw this post and i am assuming the other phones its been flashed too are htc but i was still wondering if this could be flashed on the captivate? i know it seems dumb but mayb it can be
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I feel like engadget misunderstood. I don't believe the ROM has been fully flashed onto any hardware, it may have been tested in the SDK and it's even possible they were able to import several things (like the modem) and several apk's into something like the nexus one (for instance, phandroid has a commenter claiming to be running the G2 launcher and G2 google apps on stock froyo 2.2 FOR THE NEXUS ONE). I doubt there have been any pre-bakes, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is something there for the nexus one (feel free to show me otherwise, I'd be interested in seeing it)

I feel the same way after checking sources I don't think its been flashed completely either but one can hope anyways that 2.1 vanilla may be hitting soon which spill be a relief
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I need some help getting froyo on my sgs

Hello everyone!! My name is Dimitris and I am 15 years old. I'm new to this forum and also new to the android world. I spend a lot of time on mobile phones. I had a Nokia N82 and I learnt almost everything about symbian os. But now it's old and I decided to go for a new phone. After long research i decided to buy the samsung galaxy s. i'm pretty happy with it so far. but i need some help to learn more about the android os. and by that i mean the hacks and mods that exist. 1st of all i want to put froyo on it. can someone help me root my phone and then flash it with the best froyo rom so far? I know that this must have been already asked. but couldn't find anything... also i'm gonna make more questions in this thread. any answer will be appreciated

i suggest u look further in the rom section because there are enough tutorials on how to root your phone and how to flash a custom rom on it
search and u will find.

My two cents: wait for the official froyo update. The froyo versions out there are still quite raw.
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android.francis said:
My two cents: wait for the official froyo update. The froyo versions out there are still quite raw.
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yup it is so raw, that will make the phone work like a piece of junk, you are better off with the stable ROMs that are currently avaialble

A lot of froyo stuff seems to have been backported by Samsung anyway (such as Highmem support it seems). You need to ask yourself why you need froyo specifically. It's due so soon though, it probably isn't worth the effort

Thank you for your replies. First of all I want to improve my phones batery life because I currently sucks. Also I want the voice to text thing that other phones that you say something and it turns it to text. Also I want a button at the samsungs keyboard to change between english and greek language fast like on the iphone. Finally I would like to know if there are any cool apps or widgets that I should install mostly for social networking.

yes, STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM FROYO BETAS!!! It will most likely break your phone!. Wait for OFFICIAL release next week

FROYO BETA's won't break your phone. PM me if you need further help.

AdamDowning said:
FROYO BETA's won't break your phone. PM me if you need further help.
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It's trashed some people's IMEI's. So if your phone is more than a toy, you are still best off only using the official firmware

Meh, I don't see why it could trash your IMEI if you follow instructions carefully. And backup your nv_data.bin as I do. And ofc, your phone is unlocked!

The problem is, if you don't, your phone will be permanently messed up. It isn't worth it, unless you are using your phone as a toy.
You certainly can't say it wont break your phone, unlike normal flashing, there is risk involved...

Just wait for the official froyo release. Are you so much in a rush for froyo to put your phone to some risk? A week or two and froyo will be out. Migh as well wait.
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[Q] n00b Questions about HoneyStreak

OK, I'm a n00b to this forum, so I can't post in the development forum yet. So I guess I'll ask here.
I have some questions about HoneyStreak.
Is everyone's screen in HoneyStreak kinda off? (See image below)
Is there a way to make the font larger?
How come everything is so tiny? (fonts and icons and everything)
What launcher should I be using with HoneyStreak?
Will a different launcher make a difference with the icon/font size?
Is the answer to all of my questions just that its a Beta release of Honeycomb, and that they are working on all of that? (or is it supposed to be like that? or did I mess up my install?)

1. Yes.
2. Yes, but you lose the HoneyComb Google Apps if you do that (you can bump the screen density up).
3. See #2.
4. Stock is probably best.
5. Not to my knowledge, but I could be wrong.
6. Yes.
Most of this has been covered in the HoneyStreak thread. I know it's a bit to read through, so I'm not annoyed; just saying you could probably find the answer to these questions and more on there if you're willing to put some time in.
Honeycomb isn't ready for primetime on the Streak 7, yet. This is more of an early beta, but it shows a lot of promise. Once AOSP drops, it ought to be significantly better (though that may not be until Ice Cream Sandwich). Keep watching.

Thanks Zandar, once again.
It is definitely a very promising beta. I can't wait until it's ready for prime time. Until then, I think I'll go back to the stock ROM, but rooted. I don't see too much advantage to StreakDroid, so I'll just wait for HoneyStreak.

That's exactly what I did. StreakDroid doesn't have functioning bluetooth, so that was a no-go for me. Try Gingerbreak for rooting stock 2.2.2; easiest root I've ever done.

I got excited when I saw a post about GingerStreak, but that's for the Streak 5. It kinda stinks having Gingerbread on my old phone and Froyo on my new tablet. LOL
I guess no one is interested in working on a Gingerbread ROM while Honeycomb is in beta. I don't blame them.
GingerBreak was an easy root. The hardest part was getting the .apk file onto the Streak and running it - which wasn't hard at all.
Another off-the-wall question for you:
How come none of the ROMs for the Streak 7 are Cyanogenmod based? I'm curious because I've gotten used to a lot of the Cyanogenmod features on my phone and I miss them on the Streak.

Tom2112 said:
I got excited when I saw a post about GingerStreak, but that's for the Streak 5. It kinda stinks having Gingerbread on my old phone and Froyo on my new tablet. LOL
I guess no one is interested in working on a Gingerbread ROM while Honeycomb is in beta. I don't blame them.
GingerBreak was an easy root. The hardest part was getting the .apk file onto the Streak and running it - which wasn't hard at all.
Another off-the-wall question for you:
How come none of the ROMs for the Streak 7 are Cyanogenmod based? I'm curious because I've gotten used to a lot of the Cyanogenmod features on my phone and I miss them on the Streak.
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There aren't the devs for that, right now. There's a thread over on the Cyanogenmod forums asking for develops and even offering money for a port; no response, yet. I loved CM on my old Droid, but this device simply didn't have the dev support that the OG Droid had (not yet, anyway).

Dont count on no cm devs
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Hey Steve! Thanks for all that you do for our Streaks!! You are the man.
I do hope that recent price drops for the Streak 7 bring on some more interest. The more popular the device the more people will want to work on it.

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Dont count on no cm devs
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First off, I love what you've done for the Streak 7. You're really the only one pushing the device, and I know you're also busy with the Streak 5 (and, you know, have a life and stuff, too). I'm very grateful to have you developing.
That said, you're only one man (though a very talented one). I'm pretty excited to hear that some other devs might join the team. This device has so much potential, and it would be great to see people working to unlock it.
Any other info you can share, or is it all top secret, hush-hush right now?

another noob with question
i am ordering a streak 7 from t-mobile and will have it next week. in the mean time reading this forum and ready to get on honeystreak.
Do i just follow step by step direction in DJSteve honeystreak thread? is there anything i have to do before that, like root, fastboot,....?
thanks in advance,

You'll need to root your device in order to install honeystreak.
I wouldn't mess with the SuperOneClick method of rooting. GingerBreak is the easiest method. Check the instructions in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1105165

Since I don't have enough posts I wasn't allowed to post in the development Honeystreak thread (10 posts required) so I figure I'll post here.
I just installed Honeystreak RC2 and so far it's GREAT! Thanks to DJ_Steve and others who made it possible!
My question though is regarding Facebook. I'm unable to find the FB app in the Android or Amazon marketplaces. Is this an issue for anyone else?
I searched for the .apk, but could only find version 1.4, and I know it has been recently updated. Anyone have the most recent apk?
Thanks for any input!
Jeff

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Since I don't have enough posts I wasn't allowed to post in the development Honeystreak thread (10 posts required) so I figure I'll post here.
I just installed Honeystreak RC2 and so far it's GREAT! Thanks to DJ_Steve and others who made it possible!
My question though is regarding Facebook. I'm unable to find the FB app in the Android or Amazon marketplaces. Is this an issue for anyone else?
I searched for the .apk, but could only find version 1.4, and I know it has been recently updated. Anyone have the most recent apk?
Thanks for any input!
Jeff
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Not to provide a non-answer, but the Android FB app sucks. I'd just use the mobile site.

No arguments there. But I do like having the FB widget on my home screen.
Also I figure I'd do my part to help point out any bugs or what-not with the RC build.

Facebook mobile shows up in rc3 and you dont need to be rooted to flash honeystreak.
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If you'd just read the instructions then you wouldn't have asked your question I guess. LOL.

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Facebook mobile shows up in rc3 and you dont need to be rooted to flash honeystreak.
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Facebook mobile and the official Facebook for Android app are two completely different beasts. Facebook for Android does not show up in the RC3 marketplace. I had to push it from my phone to my HoneyStreak 7. Doing that though doesn't allow it to integrate with your Gallery and therefore can't share photos and videos on Facebook via RC3 unless you use the mobile site, which has intermittent issues. I'm pretty sure I could in RC2 as I had Facebook on there working properly. That's an Issue for me since technically it's my wife's streak 7 and she uses it primarily for facebook and surfing the web... oh yeah, and Angry Birds, gotta have Angry Birds.
Bear

im wondering if the facebook app doesn exist on honeycomb. i havent got a native hc device to try it