Hello!
I recently updated my Galaxy A from 2.1 to 2.2 Froyo. I was expecting that I will become a bit faster because of the JIT compiler thing.
But instead I experienced it to be much slower in overall response.
I did some research and found that for the same hardware and OS the Nexus one gives better results than Galaxy S.
Does this mean that samsung has not done a good job in writing their Froyo update for Galaxy A and Galaxy S. Or should I format my cell to factory settings to get better results?
Thanks
Do more research!
Hardware is not the same at all
JIT is optimised for Snapdragon (N1) not Hummingbird (SGS)
You should alway revert to factory settings after a major update (like froyo) for better results
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If you have galaxy s i9000 and update to froyo beta
please make a benchmark of your phone and attach here
Thanks a lot.
You'll only get a marginally better score than Eclair now, because JIT isn't enabled yet, no optimisation has taken place yet, and a lot of debugging is probably enabled still...
Furthermore, benchmarks aren't that useful anyway, because they aren't comprehensive enough. JIT in particular is highly biased towards benchmarks..
Question: Why Galaxy S seem to run slower in Android 2.2 (Froyo)?
I been google-ing via the net for the answer. But I can't find any answer for it.
I saw in smartphonebenchmarks.com, the quadrant scores drop from 2220 to 980.
While other phones scores seem to improve after the update.
Thanks
The galaxy after froyo update is not slower compared to the eclair version but still has long way to go. Quadrant score earlier probably would have been achieved after applying third party lag fix like voodoo lagfix.
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The galaxy after froyo update is not slower compared to the eclair version but still has long way to go. Quadrant score earlier probably would have been achieved after applying third party lag fix like voodoo lagfix.
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oh ok thx.. but any idea if what would the score like after lagfix is installed?
Forget about benchmark scores, they mean very little if you don't know what they are testing.
Mine is lagging more after official unbranded update as well.. I read that restoring system settings from eclair may be an issue, but there are too many red herrings..
I tried to get information about backup/restore process before updating, but too many opinions and not enough facts..
We need an official guide that traverses smoothly from eclair, including b/r of apps, data and settings..
Samsung seems to forget we used these phones for months and do not want to begin again from factory settings.
XDA has too much info for the average users to make decisions from.
Maybe I will spend the weekend working it out..
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Since you are talking Quadrant-wise.
Applying LagFix on Eclair had a greater effect over the I/O than it does on Froyo.
In Eclair, the I/O with LagFix gets over 7000 score in Quadrant Advanced. Under Froyo, it gets right under 4500.
On the other hand, the CPU score has risen from 900~ to 1300~ from Elcair to Froyo.
Hi Ppl,
I got the official froyo release for Galaxy S India yesterday. Good Good... But wait, is it worth it? I don't know..
Before I upgraded to froyo I had applied the lag fix on 2.1 and the quadrant score showed somewhere at 1700-1800 which is good. Quadrant score on stock showed around 800-900.
Quadrant score on 2.2 stock now shows 925-950. This really pissed me off. I ran another test which is linpack and I got 13 Mflops. I do not understand what's wrong with the froyo update. I read somewhere that 2.2 is not compatible with humming bird processor. Per my understanding 2.2 upgrade should boost the CPU to the next level and the performance should be really good than 2.1.
I was comparing dell streak with galaxy s. I know if I should or not but I just wanted to look at the scores on both. Dell says Streak has a 1 GHz processor and so do Galaxy S. But the linpack score on streak showed 30 Mflops which is way better than Galaxy S which is at 13 Mflops. I really do not understand what the problem here is.
Is there no difference b/w 2.1 and 2.2 on Galaxy S? If yes, 2.2 is a joke I would say.
I am concerned because I still found issues with the froyo update. Its still laggy. I didnt notice much difference b/w 2.1 and 2.2 really
Can anyone help me out with this please?
Thanks,
Ravi
I wouldn't worry too much about quadrant scores, but if your phone is lagging then you probably need to reapply a lag fix. Did you update via Kies? I updated mine a while ago using odin (never had much joy with Kies) and my phone seemed pretty good without a lag fix, I did do a factory reset though before installing. Mines now running spikey's oc rom and oclf and is scoring around 2300 on quadrant, but more importantly the phone is ultra responsive with zero lag
Do a factory reset and reapply a lagfix, you'll get 1600ish quadrant scores again.
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Thanks for the reply, guys. I had read somewhere that the score would be 1600-1800 on stock froyo? Is that not right? Do I still need to apply a lag fix?
And yes. I updated using Kies. I did a factory reset of the phone before and after I update froyo.
Which lag fix do u suggest? Voodoo or OCLF? I guess OCLF uses EXT2 and Voodoo uses EXT4 which is a bit faster than the former right?
who cares about the score, it is all BS
what matter most, is how smooth it runs for you, and when you switch from app to app, and have stuff multitasking in the background
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who cares about the score, it is all BS
what matter most, is how smooth it runs for you, and when you switch from app to app, and have stuff multitasking in the background
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That FACT should be sticky on this forum.
ok.. I am facing a new problem now. I do not know if this is the right thread or not.
After the froyo official update I noticed I could download apps from the market except for the installation process. Some apps get stuck after a complete download and never gets installed
IS there a fix for this?
i, for one, think that my Galaxy S does not run as fast as a phone of such a price tag. Is there any chance that the new update will focus on fixing the speed?
thanx!
Well I think that Samsung ill try to not make it slower then 2.2.1 which is quite fast.
Atleast CM7 android 2.3.3 is faster then 2.2.1.
What I would like to see is a hardware accelerated (using GPU) browser.
My 2.2 is fast enough responsive very little lag .
jje
Well of course, Gingerbread will fix all issues with the SGS, it'll even fix global warming and make you have tantrum sex...
On a more serious note, it was developped on similar hardware (Nexus S) so it would (conditionnal is used here) most likely have jit optimisation and hardware optimised code. Where older version where built on different CPU so it runs, but not as well
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i, for one, think that my Galaxy S does not run as fast as a phone of such a price tag. Is there any chance that the new update will focus on fixing the speed?
thanx!
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Have you tried any of the customs roms that are available? If you're running a stock 2.2.1 rom, gingerbread is definitely going to feel faster as it is more responsive. Doubt it'll bring any drastic changes and be very similar to the leaked beta only with less bugs.
If you want to try a fast and responsive rom I'd suggest trying this one: Serendipity JS7
Well of course, Gingerbread will fix all issues with the SGS, it'll even fix global warming and make you have tantrum sex...
Dont mind the global warning looking forward to the other .
jje
Hi,
I just bought a Note to replace my S2.
Before shelling out the money and signing a 2 year contract I read tons of reviews and opinions here on xda.
The general consensus was that the Note is as snappy as the S2.
My personal experiences sadly cannot confirm this...
My Note is VERY laggy .. it behaves worse than my ancient Galaxy S1 ...
I am on 2.3.6 KKA stock.
Has someone any idea what to do?
Is there any decent custom rom out there which can bring back the snappy experience of the S2?
P.S.
On s2 I used to use the MIUI ROM
P.P.S.
Custom launchers are working terribly on the Note. Tried ADW and Launcher Pro. Had to give up because it were unusable.
Its not Note issue but Samsung's filmwares.Im sure the next updates will blow up our monster.
Try latest filmware XXKL3 and you will notice improvment on your Note.
Plus with KL3 the third part launchers not lug at all (not perfect but closed.Im using zeam laucher which is perfect not lugs)
So dont worry my friend...Be patient...
Devs working hard but its very early for good custom rom like sgii...
Very strange, I had a Galaxy S2 prior to my Note.
The Note is just as smooth as the S2.
I also had a Galaxy S 4G T959 "S1" prior , and of course the S2 and Note blows it away in term of smoothness. Might be some kind of software or hardware related issues with yours?
I don't know what to tell ya...
I have a rooted Note running the stock ROM (KJ4), and it's just fine!
No slowdowns here.
I wouldn't say that Note is laggy. It's fast but the user interface experience is choppy. It's the sheer number of pixels to push + not hardware-accelerated UI (and Android-specific UI problems). I would expect it to get better, especially with ICS. For now - a little OC + KL3 soft + stay away from 3D effects in launchers.
Laggy keyboard?
The Samsung keyboard seems to cache a lot of data, Try going into app manager and clearing Samsung keyboard cache. Worked for me. Then I also just switched to another keyboard - Swiftkey X because I wasn't using the handwriting too much in S keyboard mode. And I didn't like the AI predictions too much.
I still use S memo and S Planner and Kies Air and they all work great.
Currently no lag for me.
I came from a LG G2X running CM7 nightly #201, which was awesome by the way, and the GNote is comparable.
Current Devices:
Galaxy Note, LG G2X CM7 (Nightly #201 + GPS mod), HTC My touch 3G slide CM7 (back-up, back-up phone)
Past Devices. Most recent first:
HTC Touch Pro (great phone), HTC Apache, Audiovox Thera (lovable weirdness), HTC XV6600 (what a phone!), Kyocera 6035 (those were the days)
i was about to buy it too .. but i didn't cuz of these comments saying it's slower than the S2
any one have both devices can tell us the truth ?
A totally stock Samsung Galaxy S2 is always smooth, fluid and responsive, however the Note in stock form, which is supposed to be faster, has a clear but ever so slight input lag. On the Note I think Samsung's touchwiz UI performs better than any other third party launcher. However with the latest KL3 ROM overall performance is much improved regardless of launcher. So i swapped from touchwiz to adw soon after reflashing because I cant stand touchwiz.
It helps to reduce the cache and memory usage settings on any custom launchers that should help a bit. I'm sure its just a firmware issue and once they mature a bit this phone will be even more awesome than it is now. I honestly don't have any regrets and for anyone who is still on the fence, go for it. You will love it after a few simple customizations.
Stock Note is a bit slow for me, I use Romow Lite rom which is very fast. Even Market works (have issues with some other roms), and cifs and tun modules for OpenVPN. Only issue with the rom is AccountsandSync settings isn't install and failed to install (the feature works, you can log in, but there isn't a GUI to turn it off). So I use QuickSettings which can turn off syncing. I'm using Launcher Pro with it and its very smooth.
Thanks folks,
Should try some custom ROMS.... I wanted to wait a week or two to be sure that there are no hardware issues (it is troublesome to send it back on warranty with custom fw) and after that to root it.
Which custom rom do you prefer? I like miui very much but there isn't any port to Note till now ...
I also think the Galaxy Note is quite laggy. I tried the GS2 in the store and it is definitely smoother than the Note. And I can also confirm that the 3rd party launchers are surprisingly choppy on the Note. I ran some of those same launchers on my Android HD2 and got very, very good performance. Especially LauncherPro. It's perfectly smooth on the the old HD2 Android. I would probably have stuck with GoLauncher on the Note but it is terribly and perfectly choppy. My version is KKA.
My Note runs fine so far. I found it quite fast and snappy. Have not downloaded many applications as of yet but will add more soon. The ones I do have downloaded work ok so far.
One thing that is obvious is how much faster applications work on the iPhone compared to Android. As an example try downloading the Bloomberg applications and compare section and stories downloads time. The iPhone is about 3-4 times faster than the average Android device out including my new Samsung Note.
Just wanted to say that while Cassies KL3 mod is a good improvement, it's much better paired up with AbyssNote 2.3 kernel and the CPU clocked to 1.6Ghz. Now it really flies. Battery life also seems improved with this kernel but its still early days.
For those who think third party launcher is laggy, try Spare Parts +. Turn the animations to fast.
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A totally stock Samsung Galaxy S2 is always smooth, fluid and responsive, however the Note in stock form, which is supposed to be faster, has a clear but ever so slight input lag. On the Note I think Samsung's touchwiz UI performs better than any other third party launcher. However with the latest KL3 ROM overall performance is much improved regardless of launcher. So i swapped from touchwiz to adw soon after reflashing because I cant stand touchwiz.
It helps to reduce the cache and memory usage settings on any custom launchers that should help a bit. I'm sure its just a firmware issue and once they mature a bit this phone will be even more awesome than it is now. I honestly don't have any regrets and for anyone who is still on the fence, go for it. You will love it after a few simple customizations.
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i found my friend's note laggy... and it with latest update.. i can saw it while sliding in Stock launcher.. but the sound is better than s2 but not that high... also, galaxy note eat a lot of juice..
Try rocket ROM, it's the best I tested till now.
Smoothest and best battery life.
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My SGN almost done and better then my old S2. After rooted and flash new kernel all be perfect..
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