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The possibilty of Android 2.2 speed improvements made us Vibrant owners salivate in anticipation for the JIT compiler but didnt see a significant increase in performance like it did with the nexus one. One thing that could eliminate lag in addition to lag fixes is optimization of JIT for our CPU hardware. We would like a proactive effort for developer to investigate for the above avg user. (Non-Developers) JIT Optimization = Higher Linpack MFLOPS
I think we're getting it in gingerbread =p
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Im tired of hearing about linpack and quadrent scores already,they mean nothing.This is the fastest phone on the market right now period,if you dont like it trade it for a g2 or what have you like the rest of the idiots on craigslist.I personally have used every android phone available on tmo including the nexus1,g2,and mt4g.I xan tell you imho this phone is way faster and more responsive,and obviously the display and graphics are 2nd to none.complain about the lack of flash or ffc,but please dont complain about speed and performance,and as far as lag,try flashing a bionix rom after a clean stock odin,I've been using it since it came out and can tell you bionix final v2,and my current rom obsedion v5 run smooth as hell w/ no lagfix or oc kernal.So do yourself a favor,ignore linpack scores.
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Im tired of hearing about linpack and quadrent scores already,they mean nothing.This is the fastest phone on the market right now period,if you dont like it trade it for a g2 or what have you like the rest of the idiots on craigslist.I personally have used every android phone available on tmo including the nexus1,g2,and mt4g.I xan tell you imho this phone is way faster and more responsive,and obviously the display and graphics are 2nd to none.complain about the lack of flash or ffc,but please dont complain about speed and performance,and as far as lag,try flashing a bionix rom after a clean stock odin,I've been using it since it came out and can tell you bionix final v2,and my current rom obsedion v5 run smooth as hell w/ no lagfix or oc kernal.So do yourself a favor,ignore linpack scores.
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i love this guy.
well said.
Jerzeeloon said:
Im tired of hearing about linpack and quadrent scores already,they mean nothing.This is the fastest phone on the market right now period,if you dont like it trade it for a g2 or what have you like the rest of the idiots on craigslist.I personally have used every android phone available on tmo including the nexus1,g2,and mt4g.I xan tell you imho this phone is way faster and more responsive,and obviously the display and graphics are 2nd to none.complain about the lack of flash or ffc,but please dont complain about speed and performance,and as far as lag,try flashing a bionix rom after a clean stock odin,I've been using it since it came out and can tell you bionix final v2,and my current rom obsedion v5 run smooth as hell w/ no lagfix or oc kernal.So do yourself a favor,ignore linpack scores.
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yes, basing everything off benchmarks is dumb. however, you can't ignore the fact that optimizing JIT for the hummingbird will net real world performance improvements.
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yes, basing everything off benchmarks is dumb. however, you can't ignore the fact that optimizing JIT for the hummingbird will net real world performance improvements.
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thank you.....and plus i kno about the myth of high linpacks = better performance. i said "JIT optimization = High linpacks". High Linpack is a side affect of the performance increase. The nexus One performance has jumped exponentially from 2.1 to 2.2 because of the JIT optimization of the Snapdragon in theory, it should do the same for the vibrant as well. Everybody's phone reacts to sofware differently. think im lying, ask the ppl who had vibrants that couldnt OC like the rest like myself or ppl who cant have Voodoo. Trust me lil boy i aint nowhere a noob. Please take ur trollism to some1 else who dont kno wtf theyre talkin about. Actually G2 is the fastest phone on the Market FYI despite being clocked at @806MHz w/o root. If i really wanted to get another phone, i wouldnt be posting stuff like this or being an active poster in a Vibrant forum right? Right????? Checkmate....
1 last thing...f##k yo couch
This has been discussed before, certain Qualcomm chips are better optimizer for arithmetic calculations than the Hummingbird it. It means nothing in real world usage, where the Galaxy S variants still dominate (with a "lag" fix, of course)
Still, despite obvious advantages of Qualcom's CPU, the Hummingbird still can benefit from software optimizations of JIT to efficiently interface the hardware. Performance may not jump like it did w/ the N1, but it would help. Just like a car w/ 600 HP. A car w/ that amount of power is just useless unless it efficiently gets ALL that power to the tires right? same concept applies.
We are not getting it in gingerbread. The snapdragon have faster FPU performance due to a 128 bit SIMD FPU datapath compared to Cortex-A8's 64 bit implementation. Both FPUs process the same SIMD-style instructions, the snapdragon just happens to be able to do twice as much.
http://www.insidedsp.com/Articles/t...ualcomm-Reveals-Details-on-Scorpion-Core.aspx
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We are not getting it in gingerbread. The snapdragon have faster FPU performance due to a 128 bit SIMD FPU datapath compared to Cortex-A8's 64 bit implementation. Both FPUs process the same SIMD-style instructions, the snapdragon just happens to be able to do twice as much.
http://www.insidedsp.com/Articles/t...ualcomm-Reveals-Details-on-Scorpion-Core.aspx
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Look at who made the N1 tho.... HTC is the King at making Android phones. Comparing a N1 to the Vibrant is like comparing a Honda to Ford (Fix Or Repair Daily ) lol I still love my Vibrant tho its a Ford lol
Jerzeeloon said:
Im tired of hearing about linpack and quadrent scores already,they mean nothing.This is the fastest phone on the market right now period,if you dont like it trade it for a g2 or what have you like the rest of the idiots on craigslist.I personally have used every android phone available on tmo including the nexus1,g2,and mt4g.I xan tell you imho this phone is way faster and more responsive,and obviously the display and graphics are 2nd to none.complain about the lack of flash or ffc,but please dont complain about speed and performance,and as far as lag,try flashing a bionix rom after a clean stock odin,I've been using it since it came out and can tell you bionix final v2,and my current rom obsedion v5 run smooth as hell w/ no lagfix or oc kernal.So do yourself a favor,ignore linpack scores.
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Couldn't disagree more. I've also used just about every Tmobile compatible android smartphone. I currently have a Vibrant and I wish I would have kept my N1. And I almost pulled the trigger on trading in this POS for a G2 but the financial loss was just too great. I've yet to try any Bionix based MOD that was worth a damn. Not a one. Admittedly I've quit trying but I can't imagine much has changed.
The only thing keeping me from throwing this phone in the ocean some days is Cyanogen's team is getting close. I'm running the beta on a Euro SGS I have. Hate it as much as the Vibrant but I'm hopeful CM can save this phone from a sledgehammer.
You may be tired of hearing it but from my seat, as long as Samsung controls anything on these phones you will continue to hear it. Loudly.
boimarc89 said:
Look at who made the N1 tho.... HTC is the King at making Android phones. Comparing a N1 to the Vibrant is like comparing a Honda to Ford (Fix Or Repair Daily ) lol I still love my Vibrant tho its a Ford lol
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Please, stop embarrassing yourself. The Nexus One is and was a great phone, but the Vibrant is better in almost every way. Better hardware, bigger screen, better screen, faster, and more units sold.
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Look at who made the N1 tho.... HTC is the King at making Android phones. Comparing a N1 to the Vibrant is like comparing a Honda to Ford (Fix Or Repair Daily ) lol I still love my Vibrant tho its a Ford lol
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Wonderful analogy. I however do not love my Vibrant. I love the hardware and screen but because Samsung pulls the strings, usually I want to drop kick the thing because of it's limitations, instability and overall suck of the Samsung ROM. And yes, pretty much all the mods to it on here. Though Axura is about the closest thing my phone actually likes.
What makes you even think the Galaxy S line is even going to see Gingerbread? This is Samsung we are talking about...
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Look at who made the N1 tho.... HTC is the King at making Android phones. Comparing a N1 to the Vibrant is like comparing a Honda to Ford (Fix Or Repair Daily ) lol I still love my Vibrant tho its a Ford lol
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Htc fell off and google knows it,thats why the new nexus is made by samsung,htc may have pioneered android but there sound always sucked and right now samsung kinda controls the display game,nobody else can produce super amoled and there abou to release super amoled 2,admitidly samsung has a bad rep for not supporting current models(i.e. The whole behold 2 debacle.) And words can't describe how much I hate motorola,htc is still good but I wouldnt call them the android kings,I feel samsung has alot of potential to become the flagship brand for google.
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Couldn't disagree more. I've also used just about every Tmobile compatible android smartphone. I currently have a Vibrant and I wish I would have kept my N1. And I almost pulled the trigger on trading in this POS for a G2 but the financial loss was just too great. I've yet to try any Bionix based MOD that was worth a damn. Not a one. Admittedly I've quit trying but I can't imagine much has changed.
The only thing keeping me from throwing this phone in the ocean some days is Cyanogen's team is getting close. I'm running the beta on a Euro SGS I have. Hate it as much as the Vibrant but I'm hopeful CM can save this phone from a sledgehammer.
You may be tired of hearing it but from my seat, as long as Samsung controls anything on these phones you will continue to hear it. Loudly.
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Oh Ye of little faith.......... Get real I have had almost every phone on the market (I can afford to buy what I want when I want) and after so many this has come closet to what I've been looking for especially since the 2.2 roms are out. My Biggest complaint about people knocking the phone is they always blame the phone for their poor flashing skills. This phone rocks and it is flexible enough to allow gingerbread whenever it arrives. Try that with a DroidX or HD7......(you fill in the name)....BTW I have a FFC and talk over 3g on it using tango without lag. I just need to make it so I can video a call to a computer and I am golden.
Bottomline..........this is a great phone........that is why there are so many devs playing with it.
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thank you.....and plus i kno about the myth of high linpacks = better performance. i said "JIT optimization = High linpacks". High Linpack is a side affect of the performance increase. The nexus One performance has jumped exponentially from 2.1 to 2.2 because of the JIT optimization of the Snapdragon in theory, it should do the same for the vibrant as well. Everybody's phone reacts to sofware differently. think im lying, ask the ppl who had vibrants that couldnt OC like the rest like myself or ppl who cant have Voodoo. Trust me lil boy i aint nowhere a noob. Please take ur trollism to some1 else who dont kno wtf theyre talkin about. Actually G2 is the fastest phone on the Market FYI despite being clocked at @806MHz w/o root. If i really wanted to get another phone, i wouldnt be posting stuff like this or being an active poster in a Vibrant forum right? Right????? Checkmate....
1 last thing...f##k yo couch
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You, my friend, are not very smart. This thread needs to be closed or moved to general. Just as you would make an idiot of yourself trying to argue relativistic quantum mechanics with physicists, you are doing now.
This thread got interesting. As has already been said the Snapdragon benefits from JIT more because of its 128bit SIMD. While I am sure there is probably some room left to optimize JIT for the Hummingbird I wouldn't expect anything near the gain the N1 saw. I guess it is good or bad depending on how you look at it but the latest 2.2 ROMs floating around is as good as it gets regarding 2.2 and JIT. Don't expect much if any gain there.
But lets face it in the real world the phones perform about the same which leaves me to believe the benchmarks are that much more meaningless because they usually don't test things you actually use the phone for. Some of them would have you belive the N1 is twice as fast as the SGS and anyone with a grasp on reality just knows that isn't true. This also makes me curious when I read about people saying their phones are slow. It makes me wonder what they have done to them to slow them down because even on the stock ROM my phone was pretty snappy. And on Onyx 4.2 my phone is blazing fast with no lag fix or OC! Seriously this ROM is crazy smooth and fast and everything works.
Don't expect much from CM that you can't already get in the 2.2 ROMs floating around here. CM will still be RFS and they are using the same lag fix as everyone else here and really there isn't much of an advantage to their ROM as long as that is the case. Sure they will have features that you won't see in other ROMs here but overall I expect the CM ROMs will perform about the same as the SGS source based ROMs.
As I have already said I think this phone is fast but if there is any real speed gain to be had it will be accomplished by replacing RFS with something more efficient.
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Couldn't disagree more. I've also used just about every Tmobile compatible android smartphone. I currently have a Vibrant and I wish I would have kept my N1. And I almost pulled the trigger on trading in this POS for a G2 but the financial loss was just too great. I've yet to try any Bionix based MOD that was worth a damn. Not a one. Admittedly I've quit trying but I can't imagine much has changed.
The only thing keeping me from throwing this phone in the ocean some days is Cyanogen's team is getting close. I'm running the beta on a Euro SGS I have. Hate it as much as the Vibrant but I'm hopeful CM can save this phone from a sledgehammer.
You may be tired of hearing it but from my seat, as long as Samsung controls anything on these phones you will continue to hear it. Loudly.
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From what I understand cm for the vibrant still has a lot of proprietary samsung stuff in it, because otherwise it just wouldn't work.
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Look at who made the N1 tho.... HTC is the King at making Android phones. Comparing a N1 to the Vibrant is like comparing a Honda to Ford (Fix Or Repair Daily ) lol I still love my Vibrant tho its a Ford lol
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...did you just say Honda is the king of making cars?
Poll: Do you find Froyo (latest JS8) slower than Eclair? (JM9)
Going from Eclair to froyo originally felt like a good few steps backwards.
Things have improved lately now that samsung improved their firmwares, however go back to jm9 for a few minutes and you will see they have a long way to go to even catch up with the performance we used to have.
Eclair lagfixed JM9:
A smooth notification bar, with no lag, ever
An AMAZING browser, much better then even the froyo hardware accelerated one
Much better touch screen responsiveness
All we got from froyo was a few benchmark score improvements, performance as a whole is actually quite poor.
If community development had split equally with froyo and eclair, i would definitely have stuck with eclair.
What do the rest of you think?
I thought it was my imagination but when I was cleaning up my phone with jm9 before a flash to jv1 I was amazed with speed and smoothness on jm9. Js8 does feel a little slow but all the new minor tweeks here and there add up to a total better experience (Flash player). Jv1 improved will be off the hook I reckon. Almost kept it even with all the bugs as its so smooth and fast.
Lets hope someone's mate is right soon...
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I'm not sure what firmware I was on, but i moved from 2.1 to 2.2 (JP5 - Australian) and I found it to be much slower overall. Just flashed to JS8 2.2.1 and it's much better.
I think, in terms of interface smoothness 2.1 is better, but filesystem lag is lower (but far from ideal, though) on 2.2.1. And 2.2 is the worst of them all.
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Poll: Do you find Froyo (latest JS8) slower than Eclair? (JM9)
Going from Eclair to froyo originally felt like a good few steps backwards.
Things have improved lately now that samsung improved their firmwares, however go back to jm9 for a few minutes and you will see they have a long way to go to even catch up with the performance we used to have.
Eclair lagfixed JM9:
A smooth notification bar, with no lag, ever
An AMAZING browser, much better then even the froyo hardware accelerated one
Much better touch screen responsiveness
All we got from froyo was a few benchmark score improvements, performance as a whole is actually quite poor.
If community development had split equally with froyo and eclair, i would definitely have stuck with eclair.
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Touch responsiveness?
I think that the responsiveness of the screens doesn´t have anything to do with the FW version.
At first use. After one day the performance in equal to froyo in that aspect. At first use eclairwas awesome but after installing 20 apps....
Instead some people with the latest JS8 or even JS3 don't even think of using any lagfix even with more than 100 apps.
I admit that the shutdown animation from JM9 is far more smooth.
Finnaly don't forget that JM9 was the latest eclair ROM. And Sammy is still updating Froyo.
Froyo faster than Eclair then 2.21 faster still and JS8 seems faster .
jje
froyo 2.2 was a terrible upgrade from speed point of view..... try in application list to pinch out(to get a full view of the tabs) and scroll between tabs! it just lags as hell.. 2.2.1 i way better...but yes jm9 lagfixed was lovely!!
I can confirm if u were talking about smoothiness a lagfixed eclair is alot better than froyo even its 2.2.1, you can see the major difference if you are using launcherpro..and eclair did perform alot better than froyo in terms of battery life..but of course froyo's browser performance is promising due to the flash player and its compatibility for latest apps and games..I came form JM9 and using JS8 now..performance aint convincing me to continue to use froyo lol..was thinking to revert back to eclair..but actually what bothers me the most is the battery life.froyo drains the battery even its in idle..i will stick with JS8 for the night..if the battery still drops like 4-5% for 8hours..Im going back to JM9 =)
About touch response, i am on about how long it takes the phone to scroll after you touch the screen.
On froyo it seems delayed and often laggy, you will try scroll something and only untill about half way through the movement will the phone react and scroll.
On eclair it was much better
On iphone it is instant
On a side note, the latest CM7 has improved on this, the notification bar and most menu's are very smooth. although as of now, poor browser performance and battery drain make it useless for daily use.
Indeed. The latest Eclairbuilds (JM8/JM9) were smooth as butter in combination with Voodoo. Browserperformance isn't reached by Froyo or GB since. And yes my impression is the same regarding the touchresponsiveness. But somewhere here I read how to adjust this in Froyo. Some weeks ago there was a thread.
Edit: If Eclair would support Flash I'd still use it
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Indeed. The latest Eclairbuilds (JM8/JM9) were smooth as butter in combination with Voodoo. Browserperformance isn't reached by Froyo or GB since. And yes my impression is the same regarding the touchresponsiveness. But somewhere here I read how to adjust this in Froyo. Some weeks ago there was a thread.
Edit: If Eclair would support Flash I'd still use it
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are you talking about FuguTweaks or Damian's kernel's Touchscreen sensitivity?
I guess Damian's kernel's Touchscreen sensitivity.
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About touch response, i am on about how long it takes the phone to scroll after you touch the screen.
On froyo it seems delayed and often laggy, you will try scroll something and only untill about half way through the movement will the phone react and scroll.
On eclair it was much better
On iphone it is instant
On a side note, the latest CM7 has improved on this, the notification bar and most menu's are very smooth. although as of now, poor browser performance and battery drain make it useless for daily use.
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Browser perfomance is due to flash.
I really don't notice ant diff in touch response. Maybe it's just me.
lol guys..lets come to an conclusion..the only highlight of froyo is just the browser that supports flash..nothing else.lol
lol guys..lets come to an conclusion..the only highlight of froyo is just the browser that supports flash..nothing else.lol
If that was true no devs would build Froyo roms .
jje
because there is no point developing an old firmware when it is about to be getting eliminated soon lol.
its something like will you still go n buy an Iphone2G when Iphone5 is releasing soon? same
yes froyo is slower than eclair and all of them slower than dark's
according to me jm8 and jm9 is the best!
Hi!
Have been running honeycomb on the nook since I first got it, and it's been a blast. Now I'm considering a switch to CM7, partly out of curiosity and partly due to the recent announcement that HC won't be released to the aosp for some time to come. Until now I've been okay with some of the bugs and quirks of the HC build, thinking that improvements would be just around the corner, but...
Anyway, I was just wondering:
- are there significant differences in battery life (in relation to performance) between overclocked HC, regular CM7, and overclocked CM7?
- does CM7 implement hardware acceleration of UI etc on the Nook?
Finally:
- has anyone managed to port the HC browser to gingerbread builds?
Any and all help would be much appreciated cheers
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- are there significant differences in battery life (in relation to performance) between overclocked HC, regular CM7, and overclocked CM7?
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Battery life HCv4 vs CM7 nightlies mostly same, ie not very good on standby because neither goes into deep sleep (drops ~2% per hour in standby typically), but in use really very good, e.g. CM7 n30 with dalingrin 03162011 kernel at 1100MHz and interactive governor and wifi set to sleep never I manage 8 hours solid use with screen at 25% brightness on average.
as far as i know, CM7 is based on gingerbread, whose UI is not hardware accelerated.
so for "buttery" user interface, i would choose honeycomb over gingerbread (or CM7).
- has anyone managed to port the HC browser to gingerbread builds?
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I wanna know about this, too! It would be good to know of a UI hardware accelerated android default browser for gingerbread or lower
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as far as i know, CM7 is based on gingerbread, whose UI is not hardware accelerated.
so for "buttery" user interface, i would choose honeycomb over gingerbread (or CM7).
I wanna know about this, too! It would be good to know of a UI hardware accelerated android default browser for gingerbread or lower
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isnt opera mobile hardware accelerated? its much faster for me than the stock hc browser...
i too am thinking about switching to cm7 though mainly for flash, video, bluetooth support...
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Hi!
Have been running honeycomb on the nook since I first got it, and it's been a blast. Now I'm considering a switch to CM7, partly out of curiosity and partly due to the recent announcement that HC won't be released to the aosp for some time to come. Until now I've been okay with some of the bugs and quirks of the HC build, thinking that improvements would be just around the corner, but...
Anyway, I was just wondering:
- are there significant differences in battery life (in relation to performance) between overclocked HC, regular CM7, and overclocked CM7?
- does CM7 implement hardware acceleration of UI etc on the Nook?
Finally:
- has anyone managed to port the HC browser to gingerbread builds?
Any and all help would be much appreciated cheers
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Wow, this needs some updating. See sig for more info.
CM7 has excellent (stock or better) battery life, full hardware video acceleration, and is the bees knees. The OC kernel is about same as far as battery life goes.
HC is pretty good, not as good as CM7, but given only the sdk, I say it's pretty amazing.
Yes Opera is hardware accelerated in ui
I wanted to like opera, but I just can't. I do find Dolphin to be a nice option instead.
CM7 does have better standby under development. The 3.1 beta got me 3+ days of mild use, and I was still at 34%. HC builds must overcome pretty much all issues before I can leave CM7 behind.
Hello guys,
First i'd like to thank the forum for all the support and knowledge i've gained reading tons of posts
Well i upgraded from 2.1 to 2.2 like 3 months ago, running a custom rom which works fine but it suddenly crashes or some apps hung till i feel like throwing the phone to a wall ( has not happend yet ) so im checking everything about gingerbread and to be honest im feeling tempted to try it out.
here's my main concern, battery life, for the moment my phone manages to survive around 35hours with 3g on most part of the day ( juice defender helped me alot), but this random crashing is starting to drive me mad.
so now, which rom would you recommend for what i've seen darky and juwe's are like the top ones.
so tell me guys, which one would you suggest
this question might sound stupid, but i need opinions to be honest.
Regards
p.d. sorry if i screwed up at writting, ain't my first language
You should just try them and see if any is to your taste. I myself stick to stock roms. Right now the latest 2.2.1 which is rock solid, no complaints and excellent battery life. The gingerbread roms still have some problems and people are reporting battery drain on them although I used a few before and had no such problems.
No
I have been using 2.3 for some time, but I don't think it is worth upgrading. Nothing new in Android and it hasn't been very stable for me. GPS seems to be worse too, getting a fix takes ages.
My experience:
-- battery life far behind (Using Voodoo kernel on Ginger or CM7 VS Hardcore kernel on Froyo)
+ GPS a bit better
+ Better speed (very fluid), but it was already good in Froyo with Hardcore's kernel
+ Web browser a bit better thanks to the improved speed I guess
+ Gtalk with audio and video is possible
As I don't need battery life so much since I'm not on vacation at the moment, I prefer to use Gingerbread daily. I hope that thanks to future releases from Samsung and Hardcore's kernel, or improvements to CM7 we will reach the battery life we had with Froyo someday.
If I was in need of battery life, I would stick with Froyo for now.
To be completely honest, I use custom ROM's anyways, and there isn't a whole lot I notice different in 2.3 over 2.2. I have noticed improved GPS connectivity, and slightly better battery life.
If you are having problems with 2.2, I would suggest making an upgrade.
IMO what you get in 2.3 vs. 2.2 is the Android OS bug. And that's pretty much the only "important" change.
I'm considering downgrading, as a phone with 6 hour battery is useless...
Not sure on some of the custom rom's but was using 2.3.3 XXJVO stock for a couple days and had no trouble, battery life was much the same as what I had to stock 2.2
Trying to get gingerreal working to give that a crack.
I'm on JVO now but I still think JPY is better.
For me, I don't see any significant improvement on Gingerbread over Froyo 2.2.1
I only see some annoying faults in JVO that sometimes I makes me wanna return to JPY.
Iv'e used stock JVB and had 36 hours average on both of the phones we have. Then I moved to Tweaky's JVH based rom and saw an increase in speed, but battery life plummeted to 12 hours without fixes, 24 max with fixes. Went to MIUI 4 for a day and found it looked like a copy of iOS and dropped it like it's hot after 8 hours of playing with it. Now one is on Darky's 10.1 and battery life is improved to 24 hours of heavy use. We skied Whistler last weekend, so music is running, gps on the Whistler tracking app, Bluetooth for the motorcycle intercoms strapped to the helmets for 6 hours at 0 Celsius. And I have yet to apply the fixes recommended in Darky's thread. Wifi is always on as well.
Granted batt life is not nearly as long as stock JVB, but decent enough for what we do.
I've also attached screens of the last 14 hours of usage with WiFi and Bluetooth running. Again without the recommended fixes, and it's still at 84%.
I see more possible cons than pros ill just install a stock 2.3 for the moment if it doesn't work for me ill get back to froyo
Thanks for the feedback everyone
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I see more possible cons than pros ill just install a stock 2.3 for the moment if it doesn't work for me ill get back to froyo
Thanks for the feedback everyone
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Give it a go ....why not?
battery life is excellent "IN MY EXPERIENCE" (don't believe everything you read)...give yourself a fighting chance though...suggest
backup
factory reset with internal USB format
flash
factory reset again
then judge for yourself.
And if you do fancy going custom...yes I can thoroughly recommend Juwe 4.3.1 too
well as we speak im flashing the phone, sadly i bricked it
3 times now lol, thankfully i got my jig in here so the 2.2 stock rom i downloaded from here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846913&highlight=stock+rom) doesn't work or im doing something wrong
sucks getting stuck at sbl.bin....
guess ill first get an stable rom then i can try with 2.3
to be fair my personal opinion is that the latest froyo firmware for me JSD is laggy and this is even with hardcores speedmod which makes things worser :/ so for now im on tweakys AOSP edition which is GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRReat except for battery life and oh yeah the browser on gingerbread is way better than froyo with the exception its slower but smoother
Like some others, I've gone from JPY 2.2.1 to JVO 2.3.3
Honestly, if you're on a 2.2.1 rom, you won't gain too much by upgrading to Gingerbread. It's not like Eclair=>Froyo.
If you're on 2.2 still, then go for it - however, 2.2.1 is pretty much solid with fewer bugs.
well after an evening full of frustration and amusement
im on 2.3.3, ill test it out for couple weeks and will share my thoughts about it
as a side note, Mexican sgs are so freaking hard to flash to GB srsly
thanks everyone
whaave said:
IMO what you get in 2.3 vs. 2.2 is the Android OS bug. And that's pretty much the only "important" change.
I'm considering downgrading, as a phone with 6 hour battery is useless...
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I'd go along with that - though the bug has only appeared once in the last two weeks. Re-booting sorted it. Apart from that I see no other changes.
P.S. My phone has just re-booted itself. Been reported elsewhere I seem to recall!!!!!
I have tried Juwe's Smart edition, simply honey and Darky 10.1 but all of them were slow compared to Darky 9.5 with hardcore's kernel. 2.3.3 wasnt that smooth and it was buggy.
Wtf is that browser? They tried to make it like iphone but stupid Samsung forget that in iphone if u touch the status bar the page goes all the way up. However in 2.3.3 when u read tons of pages, you have to scroll patiently to the top. Its so annoying...
Besides I couldn't see any significant battery saving
So I returned back to Darky 9.5 and very happy with it...
only one reason for me why I use Gb JVH: finally I have a free professional email app! The tab-like mail app from sgsii. works great! all else works just like froyo.
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well im now running 2.3.3 JVH with Darky's 10.1, so far the performance is pretty good
and the battery life is amazing
10 hours up and still 83% left, im pretty happy with the outcome
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My experience:
-- battery life far behind (Using Voodoo kernel on Ginger or CM7 VS Hardcore kernel on Froyo)
+ GPS a bit better
+ Better speed (very fluid), but it was already good in Froyo with Hardcore's kernel
+ Web browser a bit better thanks to the improved speed I guess
+ Gtalk with audio and video is possible
As I don't need battery life so much since I'm not on vacation at the moment, I prefer to use Gingerbread daily. I hope that thanks to future releases from Samsung and Hardcore's kernel, or improvements to CM7 we will reach the battery life we had with Froyo someday.
If I was in need of battery life, I would stick with Froyo for now.
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I have to tell, I'm now using the Speedmod kernel and the battery life is much better, on par with Froyo.
So no reason not to upgrade to Gingerbread now
So, ICS has been out for a while and people are getting it working on our phone quite well. Taking into consideration that most ICS ROMs aren't polished yet and most still have a few bugs to sort out, are you happy with it?
I'm not talking about what the devs here did to get it working on our phone (They are a bunch of little magicians, eh?), but what Google did creating it. I have tried a couple of ICS ROMs but I couldn't get it working properly on my SGS and went back to a stock Gingerbread ROM, so I am still not that aware of most of what ICS can do.
ICS is a big departure from Gingerbread and takes a bit of investigating to find where everything is, but that's part of the fun.
What would you change in ICS and what do you really like that wasn't there before, or has been improved?
I really like the Data Usage meter. It's a great tool for those who are always watching their monthly limits.
Ian
I enjoyed using ICS a lot, everything about it, from the look and feel of it to the smoothness and speed of the OS.
The only reason im back on GB is because of problems in the battery department, no matter what kernel I used, I had problems with the battery life.
Ill be definately making the switch once the roms mature more.
During last week I tried few ICS roms and finally I came back to GB JVU - SAUROM.
Last night i tested ICS CNA 1.4.0. It works quite well witch glitch kernel, but from my poiont of view it still not the same preformance what is in GB. I had some lags in app drawer. Settings menu was slow (with semaphore 0.8.1 very slow).
I overclocked to 1300 and it's improved performance but in AnTutu I reached 3008. In comparision to JVU Saurom it is over 400 less (in Saurom with Semaphore 2.5.0 my AnTutu results is 3480).
I like plays last "hi-end" games. I tried Modern Combat 2 under SAUROM and under CNA 1.4.0 (both overclocked to 1300Mhz) and under SAUROM JVU playing it's definitively better.
I'dont know what to do. I like ICS style, but I look for fast and stable system.
I'll join the question: how do you feel wit ics for SGS? and kind of ICS customs do you recommend for me?
Too bad we can't get the best Devs here to develop one version of ICS together. With all that firepower it should be no time before ICS ran perfect on the SGS.
I still don't understand why Samsung said they couldn't do ICS for the SGS when the Devs here can.
Ian
ics is smooth and a real eyecandy but actually i cant find a real lifechanging feature in it. was quite happy with 2.2, had unstable episode of stock kies 2.6 and endedup in aokp 2.1
ics works but im experiencing crazy bat drains from mediaserver and music playback on ics costs A LOT of battery
i guess i will flash 2.2 some day
Hello
I like the Slim version of ICS. I am currently using Slim 2.5 with the Semaphore_ICS_0.9.0 kernel.
With the CPU frequency set to 1100 (which is what I normally run) I get 3324* on the AnTuTu benchmark.
* 3335 + 3313= 3324 (average)
Note : One needs to be careful comparing AnTuTu scores using Semaphore_ICS_0.9.0 kernel. By this I mean that it is not necessarily a straight apples to apples comparison due to all the different kernel settings which are possible.
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I also use Slim with Semaphore kernel 0.9.0 and it has been an delight. ICS is so good that i would sell my phone if i had to go back to gb again Much of the bugs have been fixed by now, and really this custom roms are very stable. Onecosmio SGICS rc4.2 is also very good and polished. You could start with that one, also has great battery life in comparison with others.
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I think its a bit laggy
but i might need another kernel? I don't know.
It looks good and there are a lot more options but i don't like the stock internet browser the one on gingerbread is great. Does exactly what i need it to and when you press the more button everything is in the right place.
Semaphore ICS 0.9.0 unable to get network
Flashed my T-mobile Samsung Galaxy S (I9000 using on wind mobile) to Semaphore ICS 0.9.0 and unable to get on wind network...have tried practically almost a lot of things including flashing other ICS roms, used the radios suggested in the forums but am unable to get it to work. Can someone suggest me the correct modem file to be flashed?
I'm loving ICS I'm using TeamICSSGS rom runs perfectly I find everything to work well and I've ended up getting between 2-3days on battery depending on how I use it.
I have no clue what Samsung was every on about saying the Galaxy S will never get ICS well whats running pretty good on my Galaxy S then
I think it works great. I love the way ICS looks and feel and also the fact that my SGS its a bit different from most sgs's out there.
battery is still problematic but since being a heavy user I carry a charger where ever I go anyway.
bottom line... Love it
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Few posts ago I wrote that I came back to GB. I was not happy with ICS becouse of many resons, but now I have to change my mind - RC4.2 runs great. I have one small issue with Gmail app (does not work) but I think that something could be wrong during installation becouse other users don't report this error. I have to reflash RC4.2 and test it again.
I like ics very much. The design, speed...but i hate is battery drain. When i had 2.3.6 I could be on phone 12 hours straight till 0% (massive gaming over 3g or wifi) it was great. But with ics max i get is 4 hours non stop...thats sad...I tryed everything from millions of battery apps to kernels to voltage and dont remember how many guides on utube/xda/android forums about it...
When that will be fixed im back to it, till than Ill be on stable 2.3.6 gaming
Kresh0 said:
I like ics very much. The design, speed...but i hate is battery drain. When i had 2.3.6 I could be on phone 12 hours straight till 0% (massive gaming over 3g or wifi) it was great. But with ics max i get is 4 hours non stop...thats sad...I tryed everything from millions of battery apps to kernels to voltage and dont remember how many guides on utube/xda/android forums about it...
When that will be fixed im back to it, till than Ill be on stable 2.3.6 gaming
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You have an unusual phone .... or battery. Since I bought my SGS I have to charge it every night. My best achievement was 24 hours (becouse I fell asleep and forgot to connect charger)
Ics feedback
from my exp dark knight 2.1 (4.0.4) is best more stable giving maximum battery life...ics is userfriendly,more smooth and more stable...
the only problem is battery life but it will not effects me more bcz i only use internet for mails and sometimes music plus it gives me 24 hour battery back up(gps off,wifi usage moderate,data plan always on)
I only have a few gripes about ICS (THICSSGS 4.0.3)
- The dialer is not idiot proof enough for me, I keep making unwanted calls.
- For some reason my photos keep showing up in duplicate or triplicate. Kind of pain since I use the camera for work and when I delete the duplicates they appear again the next day.
- Sound volume is to quite overall.
- Can't make an appointment in calendar without an Gmail or similar account to sync to.
- Did I mention the SOUND IS TOO QUITE?
Other than these few things the move to ICS has been a good one. Last week I got nearly 4 days on a single charge but its averaging out to 2 days now. With GB 2 days was pushing it.
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question to heavy-music-users:
1. do you experience high cpu usage on mediaserver?
2. any issues with screen off wifi connection used by interney radios or shoutcast? in my case winamp pauses every 20-30 seconds
Comparing ICS to Gingerbread, ICS wins in every single aspect for me, except for the ability of Samsung roms to play a wide range of media formats. ICS is faster, more ram-efficient, looks better and runs games more smoothly than Gingerbread.
However, I was previously on Froyo 2.2.1 ZSJPK before using ICS, because I preferred Froyo to Gingerbread. So, comparing ICS to Froyo, there are several things that ICS loses out to Froyo. To name a few, Froyo has way more free ram, hence better multitasking. On Froyo, I can have the browser running a desktop version of facebook as well as NOVA 2 running in the background, without either being closed. But on ICS, it's hard to even run Angry Birds and Contacts at the same time due to the fact that on average, there is only about 60Mb of free space.
Hence, ICS wins in all ways except multitasking, but that is due to the Galaxy S' limitations, not the actual ICS itself.
i had all time the Goa Rom on my SGS i9000 and now two weeks the ICS open kang Projekt and i was happy i find it is so much better we gingerbread the speed is very well
the apks open so fast it works very good for me
greetz nobody
Been using ics since Dec. Very happy with it and won't go back to gingerbread.
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