Poll: Do you find Froyo (latest JS8) slower than Eclair? (JM9)
Going from Eclair to froyo originally felt like a good few steps backwards.
Things have improved lately now that samsung improved their firmwares, however go back to jm9 for a few minutes and you will see they have a long way to go to even catch up with the performance we used to have.
Eclair lagfixed JM9:
A smooth notification bar, with no lag, ever
An AMAZING browser, much better then even the froyo hardware accelerated one
Much better touch screen responsiveness
All we got from froyo was a few benchmark score improvements, performance as a whole is actually quite poor.
If community development had split equally with froyo and eclair, i would definitely have stuck with eclair.
What do the rest of you think?
I thought it was my imagination but when I was cleaning up my phone with jm9 before a flash to jv1 I was amazed with speed and smoothness on jm9. Js8 does feel a little slow but all the new minor tweeks here and there add up to a total better experience (Flash player). Jv1 improved will be off the hook I reckon. Almost kept it even with all the bugs as its so smooth and fast.
Lets hope someone's mate is right soon...
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I'm not sure what firmware I was on, but i moved from 2.1 to 2.2 (JP5 - Australian) and I found it to be much slower overall. Just flashed to JS8 2.2.1 and it's much better.
I think, in terms of interface smoothness 2.1 is better, but filesystem lag is lower (but far from ideal, though) on 2.2.1. And 2.2 is the worst of them all.
android53 said:
Poll: Do you find Froyo (latest JS8) slower than Eclair? (JM9)
Going from Eclair to froyo originally felt like a good few steps backwards.
Things have improved lately now that samsung improved their firmwares, however go back to jm9 for a few minutes and you will see they have a long way to go to even catch up with the performance we used to have.
Eclair lagfixed JM9:
A smooth notification bar, with no lag, ever
An AMAZING browser, much better then even the froyo hardware accelerated one
Much better touch screen responsiveness
All we got from froyo was a few benchmark score improvements, performance as a whole is actually quite poor.
If community development had split equally with froyo and eclair, i would definitely have stuck with eclair.
What do the rest of you think?
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Touch responsiveness?
I think that the responsiveness of the screens doesn´t have anything to do with the FW version.
At first use. After one day the performance in equal to froyo in that aspect. At first use eclairwas awesome but after installing 20 apps....
Instead some people with the latest JS8 or even JS3 don't even think of using any lagfix even with more than 100 apps.
I admit that the shutdown animation from JM9 is far more smooth.
Finnaly don't forget that JM9 was the latest eclair ROM. And Sammy is still updating Froyo.
Froyo faster than Eclair then 2.21 faster still and JS8 seems faster .
jje
froyo 2.2 was a terrible upgrade from speed point of view..... try in application list to pinch out(to get a full view of the tabs) and scroll between tabs! it just lags as hell.. 2.2.1 i way better...but yes jm9 lagfixed was lovely!!
I can confirm if u were talking about smoothiness a lagfixed eclair is alot better than froyo even its 2.2.1, you can see the major difference if you are using launcherpro..and eclair did perform alot better than froyo in terms of battery life..but of course froyo's browser performance is promising due to the flash player and its compatibility for latest apps and games..I came form JM9 and using JS8 now..performance aint convincing me to continue to use froyo lol..was thinking to revert back to eclair..but actually what bothers me the most is the battery life.froyo drains the battery even its in idle..i will stick with JS8 for the night..if the battery still drops like 4-5% for 8hours..Im going back to JM9 =)
About touch response, i am on about how long it takes the phone to scroll after you touch the screen.
On froyo it seems delayed and often laggy, you will try scroll something and only untill about half way through the movement will the phone react and scroll.
On eclair it was much better
On iphone it is instant
On a side note, the latest CM7 has improved on this, the notification bar and most menu's are very smooth. although as of now, poor browser performance and battery drain make it useless for daily use.
Indeed. The latest Eclairbuilds (JM8/JM9) were smooth as butter in combination with Voodoo. Browserperformance isn't reached by Froyo or GB since. And yes my impression is the same regarding the touchresponsiveness. But somewhere here I read how to adjust this in Froyo. Some weeks ago there was a thread.
Edit: If Eclair would support Flash I'd still use it
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Indeed. The latest Eclairbuilds (JM8/JM9) were smooth as butter in combination with Voodoo. Browserperformance isn't reached by Froyo or GB since. And yes my impression is the same regarding the touchresponsiveness. But somewhere here I read how to adjust this in Froyo. Some weeks ago there was a thread.
Edit: If Eclair would support Flash I'd still use it
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are you talking about FuguTweaks or Damian's kernel's Touchscreen sensitivity?
I guess Damian's kernel's Touchscreen sensitivity.
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About touch response, i am on about how long it takes the phone to scroll after you touch the screen.
On froyo it seems delayed and often laggy, you will try scroll something and only untill about half way through the movement will the phone react and scroll.
On eclair it was much better
On iphone it is instant
On a side note, the latest CM7 has improved on this, the notification bar and most menu's are very smooth. although as of now, poor browser performance and battery drain make it useless for daily use.
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Browser perfomance is due to flash.
I really don't notice ant diff in touch response. Maybe it's just me.
lol guys..lets come to an conclusion..the only highlight of froyo is just the browser that supports flash..nothing else.lol
lol guys..lets come to an conclusion..the only highlight of froyo is just the browser that supports flash..nothing else.lol
If that was true no devs would build Froyo roms .
jje
because there is no point developing an old firmware when it is about to be getting eliminated soon lol.
its something like will you still go n buy an Iphone2G when Iphone5 is releasing soon? same
yes froyo is slower than eclair and all of them slower than dark's
according to me jm8 and jm9 is the best!
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Hi,
I'm having my Nexus One for about two weeks now and I already started a thread about the choppy scrolling between homescreens but now I want to know if there are other people that find their Nexus One slow and if they were able to make it faster in any way.
When I bought this phone I thought android would 'fly' on it cause I already had a HTC Magic and that went reasonably fast. But everything I'm using on my Nexus One feels choppy and not fluent as I expected/want it to be. For example when you start the browser or any other program you get this zoom animation which is nice but it doesn't go fluent, it goes choppy like you would play a videogame with 5 FPS.
And as I already mentioned the same counts for the launcher, it's just not fluent and doesn't feel fast at all.
I've tested different rom's, froyo, etc. but nothing seems to make it right so now I'm wondering if there are people that have the same issue's? Is it normal that the Nexus One isn't super fast to use or is there something wrong with my phone and should I return it?
i think something is wrong. especially with froyo the phone is ultra-fast.
Try Linpack and some other benchmarks and post the results.
Or try osmonitor for example and see what the cpu speed does, perhaps it is stuck @ 245 mhz for some reason lol
Ok, my score in Linpack is 6844 (MFLOPS). Don't know if that's good or bad. In BencmarkPi my Nexus One calculates Pi in 2842 miliseconds. And in Neocore I get 26.4 FPS which seems pretty normal to me.
I don't think my problems are hardware related, it more feels like it's the software.
Ow and I ran OSmonitor now and there's something strange. It says Memory Total: 217.440K Free: 67.500K
Is this a known bug or should it say 512MB?
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Ok, my score in Linpack is 6844 (MFLOPS). Don't know if that's good or bad. In BencmarkPi my Nexus One calculates Pi in 2842 miliseconds. And in Neocore I get 26.4 FPS which seems pretty normal to me.
I don't think my problems are hardware related, it more feels like it's the software.
Ow and I ran OSmonitor now and there's something strange. It says Memory Total: 217.440K Free: 67.500K
Is this a known bug or should it say 512MB?
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your using eclair without a highmem kernel, thats why it only shows that much RAM. What roms have you tried? Try cyanogens or even stock froyo and see how the speed improves. I think you may be feeling its slow because of the extra animations that werent present during 1.6 which is what the MT3G is on
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your using eclair without a highmem kernel, thats why it only shows that much RAM. What roms have you tried? Try cyanogens or even stock froyo and see how the speed improves. I think you may be feeling its slow because of the extra animations that werent present during 1.6 which is what the MT3G is on
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But the kernel thing doesn't affect the speed? I believe stock Froyo is one of the best I've tried so far. I tried cyanogen too, 5.0.7 I believe, but the launcher was extremely slow on that one.
Or am I flashing my roms the wrong way so things don't run smooth? I just download the .zip files, put them on my sd card, boot into recovery, whipe and flash. Normally it should work that way I believe.
And on my HTC Magic I was using a rom with Sense UI that worked very smooth. Maybe I should try the Desire ports but I like the stock Nexus One UI better.
Also I can't understand why there are developers OC'en the Nexus One? If it's really that fast already why would you risk that you're phone dies quicker for that extra performance?
And I don't hate animations, I even like them, but not if they are choppy.
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But the kernel thing doesn't affect the speed? I believe stock Froyo is one of the best I've tried so far. I tried cyanogen too, 5.0.7 I believe, but the launcher was extremely slow on that one.
Or am I flashing my roms the wrong way so things don't run smooth? I just download the .zip files, put them on my sd card, boot into recovery, whipe and flash. Normally it should work that way I believe.
And on my HTC Magic I was using a rom with Sense UI that worked very smooth. Maybe I should try the Desire ports but I like the stock Nexus One UI better.
Also I can't understand why there are developers OC'en the Nexus One? If it's really that fast already why would you risk that you're phone dies quicker for that extra performance?
And I don't hate animations, I even like them, but not if they are choppy.
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the kernel is actually the primary factor when it comes to speed. how the kernel manages actions on the phone is the deciding factor on what makes it run fast. you can have a very fast phone hardwarewise, but if the kernel is designed poorly, the phone will run slow as well. Using a kernel that does not have highmem enabled means your probably running an older kernel that does not have updates for speed. the latest froyo kernel has highmem and JIT enabled for faster application use as well as over smoother feel.
i love the animations as well
im coming from the G1 and i havent had any of the of the problems you seem to be having. you are flashing the roms correctly (unless there are additional things such as google apps you need, idk whats the procedure on that for the nexus) Im running fully stock with froyo FRF72.
I would imagine that Desire would be SLOWER than stock android not faster. However the animations may be better optimized. I only used sense on the G1 and it was slow as heck on there (i would have used it all the time otherwise) The main reason that things look so choppy is because rendering is not handled by the GPU, rather the CPU. This puts more strain on the CPU than should be necessary.
I don't get why they OC the CPU either. Seriously, 1gHz is fast for a PHONE. I can understand why when the phone starts getting dated why you would....but its not gonna be dated till at least Q4 2010 when the 1.2-2gHz snapdragons are coming out.
Qualcomm will have a 1.5gHz ready for new phones this year. DUAL-CORE
http://gizmodo.com/5443976/qualcomm...dragon-smartphones-are-about-to-go-hyperspeed
As for the problem. Sounds weird. Try LauncherPro for a test. That is smooth launcher that flows like butter. If that is choppy then there is something seriously fu-bar going on with yer phone
I've flashed the stock froyo FRF50 now and till now it looks a lot better. OS manager now shows a total of 400MB memory. Is this the normal amount it should show? Or should I be looking for another kernel for froyo? And what is the difference between froyo FRF50 and FRF72?
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so is your nexus smooth and fluid now? because mine is very smooth swiping the homescreens. using launcher pro. no choppiness at all.
Stock launchers to me are kinda choppy too. And that was my only complain with the nexus. Like the previous posters advised, try launcher pro and adwlauncher, tweak the settings to your liking and you'll see the difference. As far as kernel for froyo try pershoots kernel, it seems to be very smooth and speedy.
renegadEEE said:
I've flashed the stock froyo FRF50 now and till now it looks a lot better. OS manager now shows a total of 400MB memory. Is this the normal amount it should show? Or should I be looking for another kernel for froyo? And what is the difference between froyo FRF50 and FRF72?
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Ok, thanks for al the replies and great advice! With the fresh Froyo rom and a better kernel everything goes way better now!
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Ok, thanks for al the replies and great advice! With the fresh Froyo rom and a better kernel everything goes way better now!
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400 is normal. FRF72 seems to help battery life greatly for me. browser seems more stable and google apps have been updated (alarm and calendar)
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Ok, thanks for al the replies and great advice! With the fresh Froyo rom and a better kernel everything goes way better now!
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Minor suggestion - install ADW.Launcher (you'll have to tweak the settings a bit to make it nice) or Launcher Pro (works great as is) with your Froyo ROM. You'll thank me for it. The stock launcher scrolling is choppy - always has been, never was really fixed in Froyo (at least as of FRF50 - I haven't even bothered trying it with FRF72).
Ok so i flash theses beautiful roms and now ive tried some testing and currently on my captivate i ran the "linpack for andoid" app and it states:
MFLOPS: 13.982
time: 6.0
Norm Res:5.68
Precision: Inaccurate result
ok so i looked at the top 10 section ounder my phone and their MFLOPS is between 20-50 MFLOPS...So do i need some tweaking?..I mean the phone is good , Rom is awesome...any thoughts?
Captivate 1007
Phoenix 5.2 (2.2.1 JS5)
Speedmod i897 500hz k13c
UGJK4
Lagfix enabled
(r) Tweaks enabled
I wouldn't worry about it. First, your test said inaccurate results, so try running it a few times, though you probably won't get much more out of it. Secondly, most people believe these benchmarks are a load of BS, and I would trends to agree. If the ROM feels snappier and works smoother than stock for you, there really isn't any use in the benchmark scores. I'm running Serendipity 5.11 with the same kernel as you, and I find my scores are in the low 14's- which, as is for you, seems slow compared to the online results. However, my phone supposedly blows the other results out of the water in the Quadrant Standard benchmark, regularly achieving scores over 1500, and I imagine yours would perform similarly, so no, I wouldn't worry at all.
Overall, most of the roms on here achieve faster performance along with better battery life compared to a stock cappy. I suggest trying out as many roms as possible to find the one that fits you best, as everybody has different tastes, and each rom behaves differently for everybody.
Personally, I think Serendipity is something you should try, as it looks friggen sweet as is, and even better IMO with some tweaks. I changed the battery indicator to the android dude, the font to Armani, and use launcher pro over the base rom. Altogether, my phone is super slick and snappy. Oh yeah, it also accesses HSPA networks, so downloads are way quicker than stock (pretty sure your current rom does too).
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that's about right, repeated tests should get you 14+. it does say inacurate so i dont think you have a problem, just a process running somewhere. the hummingbird lacks a bit in this area and snapdragons excel only in this area. i know it is weird that the nexus one and droid incredible smoke this phone in linpack but it is hardly a thorough benchmark. run quadrant on CM7 when it comes out and see what the hardware is really doing without the samsung influence. despite the low mflops you will see good scores across the board.
Thanks alot for the input everyone...jus curious how gen-pop was adding up... but who cares about the numbers i suppose when my phone is soo [email protected]## cool hahha
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Just for the record, I'm on stock Froyo, With no SpeedMod, but with voodoo lagfix and I got better benchmark, linpack and quadrant scores than I did with a custom rom and Speedmod kernel before. Add to that the stability of a native ROM and kernel, and I think you know what I am saying here...
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Just for the record, I'm on stock Froyo, With no SpeedMod, but with voodoo lagfix and I got better benchmark, linpack and quadrant scores than I did with a custom rom and Speedmod kernel before. Add to that the stability of a native ROM and kernel, and I think you know what I am saying here...
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Hmmm. Intresting. Makes sense. Whered ya get the stock from..curious about the release tomorrow for At&t. Think i might try some configs with it.
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i, for one, think that my Galaxy S does not run as fast as a phone of such a price tag. Is there any chance that the new update will focus on fixing the speed?
thanx!
Well I think that Samsung ill try to not make it slower then 2.2.1 which is quite fast.
Atleast CM7 android 2.3.3 is faster then 2.2.1.
What I would like to see is a hardware accelerated (using GPU) browser.
My 2.2 is fast enough responsive very little lag .
jje
Well of course, Gingerbread will fix all issues with the SGS, it'll even fix global warming and make you have tantrum sex...
On a more serious note, it was developped on similar hardware (Nexus S) so it would (conditionnal is used here) most likely have jit optimisation and hardware optimised code. Where older version where built on different CPU so it runs, but not as well
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i, for one, think that my Galaxy S does not run as fast as a phone of such a price tag. Is there any chance that the new update will focus on fixing the speed?
thanx!
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Have you tried any of the customs roms that are available? If you're running a stock 2.2.1 rom, gingerbread is definitely going to feel faster as it is more responsive. Doubt it'll bring any drastic changes and be very similar to the leaked beta only with less bugs.
If you want to try a fast and responsive rom I'd suggest trying this one: Serendipity JS7
Well of course, Gingerbread will fix all issues with the SGS, it'll even fix global warming and make you have tantrum sex...
Dont mind the global warning looking forward to the other .
jje
Hello guys,
First i'd like to thank the forum for all the support and knowledge i've gained reading tons of posts
Well i upgraded from 2.1 to 2.2 like 3 months ago, running a custom rom which works fine but it suddenly crashes or some apps hung till i feel like throwing the phone to a wall ( has not happend yet ) so im checking everything about gingerbread and to be honest im feeling tempted to try it out.
here's my main concern, battery life, for the moment my phone manages to survive around 35hours with 3g on most part of the day ( juice defender helped me alot), but this random crashing is starting to drive me mad.
so now, which rom would you recommend for what i've seen darky and juwe's are like the top ones.
so tell me guys, which one would you suggest
this question might sound stupid, but i need opinions to be honest.
Regards
p.d. sorry if i screwed up at writting, ain't my first language
You should just try them and see if any is to your taste. I myself stick to stock roms. Right now the latest 2.2.1 which is rock solid, no complaints and excellent battery life. The gingerbread roms still have some problems and people are reporting battery drain on them although I used a few before and had no such problems.
No
I have been using 2.3 for some time, but I don't think it is worth upgrading. Nothing new in Android and it hasn't been very stable for me. GPS seems to be worse too, getting a fix takes ages.
My experience:
-- battery life far behind (Using Voodoo kernel on Ginger or CM7 VS Hardcore kernel on Froyo)
+ GPS a bit better
+ Better speed (very fluid), but it was already good in Froyo with Hardcore's kernel
+ Web browser a bit better thanks to the improved speed I guess
+ Gtalk with audio and video is possible
As I don't need battery life so much since I'm not on vacation at the moment, I prefer to use Gingerbread daily. I hope that thanks to future releases from Samsung and Hardcore's kernel, or improvements to CM7 we will reach the battery life we had with Froyo someday.
If I was in need of battery life, I would stick with Froyo for now.
To be completely honest, I use custom ROM's anyways, and there isn't a whole lot I notice different in 2.3 over 2.2. I have noticed improved GPS connectivity, and slightly better battery life.
If you are having problems with 2.2, I would suggest making an upgrade.
IMO what you get in 2.3 vs. 2.2 is the Android OS bug. And that's pretty much the only "important" change.
I'm considering downgrading, as a phone with 6 hour battery is useless...
Not sure on some of the custom rom's but was using 2.3.3 XXJVO stock for a couple days and had no trouble, battery life was much the same as what I had to stock 2.2
Trying to get gingerreal working to give that a crack.
I'm on JVO now but I still think JPY is better.
For me, I don't see any significant improvement on Gingerbread over Froyo 2.2.1
I only see some annoying faults in JVO that sometimes I makes me wanna return to JPY.
Iv'e used stock JVB and had 36 hours average on both of the phones we have. Then I moved to Tweaky's JVH based rom and saw an increase in speed, but battery life plummeted to 12 hours without fixes, 24 max with fixes. Went to MIUI 4 for a day and found it looked like a copy of iOS and dropped it like it's hot after 8 hours of playing with it. Now one is on Darky's 10.1 and battery life is improved to 24 hours of heavy use. We skied Whistler last weekend, so music is running, gps on the Whistler tracking app, Bluetooth for the motorcycle intercoms strapped to the helmets for 6 hours at 0 Celsius. And I have yet to apply the fixes recommended in Darky's thread. Wifi is always on as well.
Granted batt life is not nearly as long as stock JVB, but decent enough for what we do.
I've also attached screens of the last 14 hours of usage with WiFi and Bluetooth running. Again without the recommended fixes, and it's still at 84%.
I see more possible cons than pros ill just install a stock 2.3 for the moment if it doesn't work for me ill get back to froyo
Thanks for the feedback everyone
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I see more possible cons than pros ill just install a stock 2.3 for the moment if it doesn't work for me ill get back to froyo
Thanks for the feedback everyone
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Give it a go ....why not?
battery life is excellent "IN MY EXPERIENCE" (don't believe everything you read)...give yourself a fighting chance though...suggest
backup
factory reset with internal USB format
flash
factory reset again
then judge for yourself.
And if you do fancy going custom...yes I can thoroughly recommend Juwe 4.3.1 too
well as we speak im flashing the phone, sadly i bricked it
3 times now lol, thankfully i got my jig in here so the 2.2 stock rom i downloaded from here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846913&highlight=stock+rom) doesn't work or im doing something wrong
sucks getting stuck at sbl.bin....
guess ill first get an stable rom then i can try with 2.3
to be fair my personal opinion is that the latest froyo firmware for me JSD is laggy and this is even with hardcores speedmod which makes things worser :/ so for now im on tweakys AOSP edition which is GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRReat except for battery life and oh yeah the browser on gingerbread is way better than froyo with the exception its slower but smoother
Like some others, I've gone from JPY 2.2.1 to JVO 2.3.3
Honestly, if you're on a 2.2.1 rom, you won't gain too much by upgrading to Gingerbread. It's not like Eclair=>Froyo.
If you're on 2.2 still, then go for it - however, 2.2.1 is pretty much solid with fewer bugs.
well after an evening full of frustration and amusement
im on 2.3.3, ill test it out for couple weeks and will share my thoughts about it
as a side note, Mexican sgs are so freaking hard to flash to GB srsly
thanks everyone
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IMO what you get in 2.3 vs. 2.2 is the Android OS bug. And that's pretty much the only "important" change.
I'm considering downgrading, as a phone with 6 hour battery is useless...
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I'd go along with that - though the bug has only appeared once in the last two weeks. Re-booting sorted it. Apart from that I see no other changes.
P.S. My phone has just re-booted itself. Been reported elsewhere I seem to recall!!!!!
I have tried Juwe's Smart edition, simply honey and Darky 10.1 but all of them were slow compared to Darky 9.5 with hardcore's kernel. 2.3.3 wasnt that smooth and it was buggy.
Wtf is that browser? They tried to make it like iphone but stupid Samsung forget that in iphone if u touch the status bar the page goes all the way up. However in 2.3.3 when u read tons of pages, you have to scroll patiently to the top. Its so annoying...
Besides I couldn't see any significant battery saving
So I returned back to Darky 9.5 and very happy with it...
only one reason for me why I use Gb JVH: finally I have a free professional email app! The tab-like mail app from sgsii. works great! all else works just like froyo.
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well im now running 2.3.3 JVH with Darky's 10.1, so far the performance is pretty good
and the battery life is amazing
10 hours up and still 83% left, im pretty happy with the outcome
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My experience:
-- battery life far behind (Using Voodoo kernel on Ginger or CM7 VS Hardcore kernel on Froyo)
+ GPS a bit better
+ Better speed (very fluid), but it was already good in Froyo with Hardcore's kernel
+ Web browser a bit better thanks to the improved speed I guess
+ Gtalk with audio and video is possible
As I don't need battery life so much since I'm not on vacation at the moment, I prefer to use Gingerbread daily. I hope that thanks to future releases from Samsung and Hardcore's kernel, or improvements to CM7 we will reach the battery life we had with Froyo someday.
If I was in need of battery life, I would stick with Froyo for now.
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I have to tell, I'm now using the Speedmod kernel and the battery life is much better, on par with Froyo.
So no reason not to upgrade to Gingerbread now
So, ICS has been out for a while and people are getting it working on our phone quite well. Taking into consideration that most ICS ROMs aren't polished yet and most still have a few bugs to sort out, are you happy with it?
I'm not talking about what the devs here did to get it working on our phone (They are a bunch of little magicians, eh?), but what Google did creating it. I have tried a couple of ICS ROMs but I couldn't get it working properly on my SGS and went back to a stock Gingerbread ROM, so I am still not that aware of most of what ICS can do.
ICS is a big departure from Gingerbread and takes a bit of investigating to find where everything is, but that's part of the fun.
What would you change in ICS and what do you really like that wasn't there before, or has been improved?
I really like the Data Usage meter. It's a great tool for those who are always watching their monthly limits.
Ian
I enjoyed using ICS a lot, everything about it, from the look and feel of it to the smoothness and speed of the OS.
The only reason im back on GB is because of problems in the battery department, no matter what kernel I used, I had problems with the battery life.
Ill be definately making the switch once the roms mature more.
During last week I tried few ICS roms and finally I came back to GB JVU - SAUROM.
Last night i tested ICS CNA 1.4.0. It works quite well witch glitch kernel, but from my poiont of view it still not the same preformance what is in GB. I had some lags in app drawer. Settings menu was slow (with semaphore 0.8.1 very slow).
I overclocked to 1300 and it's improved performance but in AnTutu I reached 3008. In comparision to JVU Saurom it is over 400 less (in Saurom with Semaphore 2.5.0 my AnTutu results is 3480).
I like plays last "hi-end" games. I tried Modern Combat 2 under SAUROM and under CNA 1.4.0 (both overclocked to 1300Mhz) and under SAUROM JVU playing it's definitively better.
I'dont know what to do. I like ICS style, but I look for fast and stable system.
I'll join the question: how do you feel wit ics for SGS? and kind of ICS customs do you recommend for me?
Too bad we can't get the best Devs here to develop one version of ICS together. With all that firepower it should be no time before ICS ran perfect on the SGS.
I still don't understand why Samsung said they couldn't do ICS for the SGS when the Devs here can.
Ian
ics is smooth and a real eyecandy but actually i cant find a real lifechanging feature in it. was quite happy with 2.2, had unstable episode of stock kies 2.6 and endedup in aokp 2.1
ics works but im experiencing crazy bat drains from mediaserver and music playback on ics costs A LOT of battery
i guess i will flash 2.2 some day
Hello
I like the Slim version of ICS. I am currently using Slim 2.5 with the Semaphore_ICS_0.9.0 kernel.
With the CPU frequency set to 1100 (which is what I normally run) I get 3324* on the AnTuTu benchmark.
* 3335 + 3313= 3324 (average)
Note : One needs to be careful comparing AnTuTu scores using Semaphore_ICS_0.9.0 kernel. By this I mean that it is not necessarily a straight apples to apples comparison due to all the different kernel settings which are possible.
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I also use Slim with Semaphore kernel 0.9.0 and it has been an delight. ICS is so good that i would sell my phone if i had to go back to gb again Much of the bugs have been fixed by now, and really this custom roms are very stable. Onecosmio SGICS rc4.2 is also very good and polished. You could start with that one, also has great battery life in comparison with others.
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I think its a bit laggy
but i might need another kernel? I don't know.
It looks good and there are a lot more options but i don't like the stock internet browser the one on gingerbread is great. Does exactly what i need it to and when you press the more button everything is in the right place.
Semaphore ICS 0.9.0 unable to get network
Flashed my T-mobile Samsung Galaxy S (I9000 using on wind mobile) to Semaphore ICS 0.9.0 and unable to get on wind network...have tried practically almost a lot of things including flashing other ICS roms, used the radios suggested in the forums but am unable to get it to work. Can someone suggest me the correct modem file to be flashed?
I'm loving ICS I'm using TeamICSSGS rom runs perfectly I find everything to work well and I've ended up getting between 2-3days on battery depending on how I use it.
I have no clue what Samsung was every on about saying the Galaxy S will never get ICS well whats running pretty good on my Galaxy S then
I think it works great. I love the way ICS looks and feel and also the fact that my SGS its a bit different from most sgs's out there.
battery is still problematic but since being a heavy user I carry a charger where ever I go anyway.
bottom line... Love it
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Few posts ago I wrote that I came back to GB. I was not happy with ICS becouse of many resons, but now I have to change my mind - RC4.2 runs great. I have one small issue with Gmail app (does not work) but I think that something could be wrong during installation becouse other users don't report this error. I have to reflash RC4.2 and test it again.
I like ics very much. The design, speed...but i hate is battery drain. When i had 2.3.6 I could be on phone 12 hours straight till 0% (massive gaming over 3g or wifi) it was great. But with ics max i get is 4 hours non stop...thats sad...I tryed everything from millions of battery apps to kernels to voltage and dont remember how many guides on utube/xda/android forums about it...
When that will be fixed im back to it, till than Ill be on stable 2.3.6 gaming
Kresh0 said:
I like ics very much. The design, speed...but i hate is battery drain. When i had 2.3.6 I could be on phone 12 hours straight till 0% (massive gaming over 3g or wifi) it was great. But with ics max i get is 4 hours non stop...thats sad...I tryed everything from millions of battery apps to kernels to voltage and dont remember how many guides on utube/xda/android forums about it...
When that will be fixed im back to it, till than Ill be on stable 2.3.6 gaming
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You have an unusual phone .... or battery. Since I bought my SGS I have to charge it every night. My best achievement was 24 hours (becouse I fell asleep and forgot to connect charger)
Ics feedback
from my exp dark knight 2.1 (4.0.4) is best more stable giving maximum battery life...ics is userfriendly,more smooth and more stable...
the only problem is battery life but it will not effects me more bcz i only use internet for mails and sometimes music plus it gives me 24 hour battery back up(gps off,wifi usage moderate,data plan always on)
I only have a few gripes about ICS (THICSSGS 4.0.3)
- The dialer is not idiot proof enough for me, I keep making unwanted calls.
- For some reason my photos keep showing up in duplicate or triplicate. Kind of pain since I use the camera for work and when I delete the duplicates they appear again the next day.
- Sound volume is to quite overall.
- Can't make an appointment in calendar without an Gmail or similar account to sync to.
- Did I mention the SOUND IS TOO QUITE?
Other than these few things the move to ICS has been a good one. Last week I got nearly 4 days on a single charge but its averaging out to 2 days now. With GB 2 days was pushing it.
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question to heavy-music-users:
1. do you experience high cpu usage on mediaserver?
2. any issues with screen off wifi connection used by interney radios or shoutcast? in my case winamp pauses every 20-30 seconds
Comparing ICS to Gingerbread, ICS wins in every single aspect for me, except for the ability of Samsung roms to play a wide range of media formats. ICS is faster, more ram-efficient, looks better and runs games more smoothly than Gingerbread.
However, I was previously on Froyo 2.2.1 ZSJPK before using ICS, because I preferred Froyo to Gingerbread. So, comparing ICS to Froyo, there are several things that ICS loses out to Froyo. To name a few, Froyo has way more free ram, hence better multitasking. On Froyo, I can have the browser running a desktop version of facebook as well as NOVA 2 running in the background, without either being closed. But on ICS, it's hard to even run Angry Birds and Contacts at the same time due to the fact that on average, there is only about 60Mb of free space.
Hence, ICS wins in all ways except multitasking, but that is due to the Galaxy S' limitations, not the actual ICS itself.
i had all time the Goa Rom on my SGS i9000 and now two weeks the ICS open kang Projekt and i was happy i find it is so much better we gingerbread the speed is very well
the apks open so fast it works very good for me
greetz nobody
Been using ics since Dec. Very happy with it and won't go back to gingerbread.
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