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What is the fastest ROM?

I am getting annoyed with the speed of my Sprint Hero. the lag on the dialer is really annoying me, I hit dial and wait 5-10 seconds before the phone actually dials then it does the stupid vibrate after the call is ringing already.
Sometimes I think i did not hit the call button so i hit it again, and nothing happens for a while then suddenly I get 2 calls going at the same time to the same person.
I am rooted and running a 2.1ROM but I forgot which one, but it doesnt have any special features besides the super user app and htc sense.
Im willing to settle for something with out sense as long as it speeds up the phone.
I am even considering if its possible to unroot and to whatever 2.1 version sprint has out now and hope it fixes things.
Please let me know which ROM I should try, I dont care about sense, live wallpapers, special animations, just make the phone quicker.

cyanogen 2.2 mod is the best...overclock it to 768

Well, I assure you that using stock 2.1 will *not* fix your problems, especially lag issues. Better to stick to modded ROMs, to be honest.
After trying a few ROMs, I came to love ZenEXP. And with the 0.9.7 release that just came out, it seems like things have gotten even faster. You're rooted, so... do a nand backup, and give it a shot. Try Cyanogen too, as the last person said.

andrewt328 said:
cyanogen 2.2 mod is the best...overclock it to 768
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Which overclock app you using?

Bkz_flyest said:
Which overclock app you using?
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Please note that not every Hero will tolerate 768 on the processor. Really, seems only a select few can run it without stability issues. Mine will freeze instantly if set any higher than 710. This is why the new CM6 is clocked at 691, so everyone can boot it, and so it is rock solid. If you can get 768, then you are one of the lucky ones!

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cyanogen 2.2 mod is the best...overclock it to 768
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How do you get it to 768? I'm using setCPU and it peaks at 528

My max is 678.. but I put it at 652. Should I just max it out at 678?
Never mind its 691.. I maxed it.. I wont have a problem with battery overheating right?

AjaxBU said:
How do you get it to 768? I'm using setCPU and it peaks at 528
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The app that you use to manage your OC speed doesn't determine how fast your processor will actually run, it's all based on the kernel embedded (or flashed) onto your phone. If you're running stock 2.1 then SetCPU will only show your max speed as 528mhz because that's how fast the stock kernel is. Other ROMs like DarchDroid and CM6 have kernels that boost the max speed to over 700mhz. If you install one of those then you'll see massive speed improvements to your phone and with SetCPU you can either leave the kernel to allow for maximum speed or you can throttle it down if your phone becomes unstable and can't handle it.

jordanjackthomas said:
The app that you use to manage your OC speed doesn't determine how fast your processor will actually run, it's all based on the kernel embedded (or flashed) onto your phone. If you're running stock 2.1 then SetCPU will only show your max speed as 528mhz because that's how fast the stock kernel is. Other ROMs like DarchDroid and CM6 have kernels that boost the max speed to over 700mhz. If you install one of those then you'll see massive speed improvements to your phone and with SetCPU you can either leave the kernel to allow for maximum speed or you can throttle it down if your phone becomes unstable and can't handle it.
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Wow, thanks for the tip. I'm running the stock 2.1 atm because I haven't found a rom that combines both live wallpapers and multitouch yet. I play games on my phone often, probably too often, and I have to be able to use two fingers. The live wallpaper thing is just because I think it looks really cool, especially that mario one.

benchmarking
what are good scores

I'm getting 5.4 Linpack, 464 quadrant! Oc'ed to 768.0MHz
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ZenEXP 10(chars)

If you're looking for pure speed I recommend pancake 0.1,very fast 1.6 rom, if you're looking for something sorta fast and up to date, use cm6

tomatosoup said:
If you're looking for pure speed I recommend pancake 0.1,very fast 1.6 rom, if you're looking for something sorta fast and up to date, use cm6
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CM6 is the best... fast and packed with features, and it's froyo! Use CM6 with the uncapped kernel

Can anyone show me where to find this CM6? Newbie...sorry

dvargas72 said:
Can anyone show me where to find this CM6? Newbie...sorry
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Back out to the hero forum -> android development -> cm6 testing or cm6 rc1
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Which Cm6 is better? Are there any differences?

All of the cm6's are fast, just have to figure the right configuration for your own phone!
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I increased the vm heap on cm6 to 32m and it eliminated any and all lag for me. It runs like a scalded dog.
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot froyo on hero action here!

[Q]Smooth the edges

Ok so I love android and all of it's openness and mods. I like to modify all electronics that I have. But the only problem I have with it is that it isn't smooth. I have had an iPhone in the past and it was smooth. It just confuses me how 1ghz can lag on a mobile os. I guess this rant is to ask how do I smooth the edges. I've tried many roms and some were better than others. One major thing I want is when I unlock it, when I slide homescreen, and when I open the app drawer to be smooth. Any ideas settings roms?
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Read through a lot of threads, and understand that there isn't what you're looking for. You might try MIUI, people report it as smooth - never tried it personally. Also, for launcher use LauncherPro, it's smooth.
About the gigahertz stuff: CPU speed doesn't matter as much as SW does. And there is no "smoothness support" yet.
Android isn't smooth. It's powerful, though. Personally, I like the trade off.

jakeneal22 said:
Ok so I love android and all of it's openness and mods. I like to modify all electronics that I have. But the only problem I have with it is that it isn't smooth. I have had an iPhone in the past and it was smooth. It just confuses me how 1ghz can lag on a mobile os. I guess this rant is to ask how do I smooth the edges. I've tried many roms and some were better than others. One major thing I want is when I unlock it, when I slide homescreen, and when I open the app drawer to be smooth. Any ideas settings roms?
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delete all your apps, turn off all services, and it will run just like the iphone. kill every app after you use it. - that's what the iphone does.

You can tweak the internal task killer to speed up your phone. It takes some work and testing. This thread has the directions and explanations.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622666
Geo411m's ROM has these tweaks built in and they work really well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7008637&highlight=internal+task+killer#post7008637

adambenjamin said:
You can tweak the internal task killer to speed up your phone. It takes some work and testing. This thread has the directions and explanations.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622666
Geo411m's ROM has these tweaks built in and they work really well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7008637&highlight=internal+task+killer#post7008637
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This has been useless since Froyo. As I once researched and posted, Froyo kills the processes much earlier than Eclair (OOM=12 instead of 16) and considering the amount of memory on Nexus - you never get anywhere below 100MB free unless you run a super-heavy app, and those never stay in background.
Now these tweaks don't do a thing.

does power mean smoothness? I just don't get the concept of having a fast processor and not being smooth. I mean it is almost the same speed as my netbook... on a phone. It seems like that should be smooth. Maybe I'm asking for to much. But another thing I have seen videos of people on cyanogen and it is running smoothly with a live wallpaper. I have never got cyanogen to run smoothly for me even with a still wallpaper. Is there some magical setting everyone but me knows about?
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Read through a lot of threads, and understand that there isn't what you're looking for. You might try MIUI, people report it as smooth - never tried it personally. Also, for launcher use LauncherPro, it's smooth.
About the gigahertz stuff: CPU speed doesn't matter as much as SW does. And there is no "smoothness support" yet.
Android isn't smooth. It's powerful, though. Personally, I like the trade off.
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Power = ability to do things. Not CPU power, OS power.
Smoothness = frame rate of transitions between screens in UI. By most part, it's a result of heavy GPU utilization (which Android doesn't do stock) and programming that puts graphics as top priority (which isn't the case with Android). When CPU is made busy making beautiful graphics, it makes beautiful graphics. When it's not the main concern - it makes what it makes.
Again, you seem to be complaining about the launcher - otherwise you wouldn't bring this live wallpaper thing. So go download LauncherPro.

Folks go on about miui being smooth but personally I found it quite choppy at times, and this was most evident using the miui default launcher and comparing to say an iPhone 4, it looks very stuttery. Its better with launcherpro, but then you've lost half the reason for using it.
I am using cm6 and a theme (minimal matte fwiw ) and its very smooth and nice looking (and believe me I am very sensitive to, and loathe slow performance on a latest Gen phone).
Best compromise I've found yet on android.

I use the latest CM6 nightlies with Launcher Pro Plus and have a lot of widgets on my homescreen, smooth as butter.
I do remember the homescreen being a bit choppy when I ran 2.1 on my N1 though...

Have you messed with the performance settings? I hear that switching the performance setting to 24 instead of 34 helps. I'm not on cyanogen right now so I don't remember the exact setting but it is cyan settings then performance.
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I use the latest CM6 nightlies with Launcher Pro Plus and have a lot of widgets on my homescreen, smooth as butter.
I do remember the homescreen being a bit choppy when I ran 2.1 on my N1 though...
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Truth of the matter is, is that Android running as SMOOTH as an iPhone would be difficult, simply because the IOS operating system doesnt allow any applications to run in the background. Android has TONS of apps that run in the background, and its still smooth as hell if your running the right ROM.
In all honestly, as much as I LOVE enomther and cyan ROMS, MIUI is hands down the smoothest and fastest ROM I have ever used. Give it a shot. I promise that if you can get past the iPhonish look, you will LOVE the speed and fluidness of the ROM. I cant recommend it enough.

I have used the miui roms and they are awesome. But honestly I just feel like a sell out while running them.
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jakeneal22 said:
I have used the miui roms and they are awesome. But honestly I just feel like a sell out while running them.
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Lol. Why? Because it's iPhone-like? That's a pretty bad reason to not use a great rom...

Possibly I don't know. Do you suggest a bundle or do you suggest the original with langauge packs
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Original with launcher pro and language pack
jakeneal22 said:
Possibly I don't know. Do you suggest a bundle or do you suggest the original with langauge packs
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The reason why even iPhone 3G's can feel "smoother" than Android phones at most times: hardware acceleration.
Ever since the 2G they've had a dedicated GPU which was used to its fullest in basic UI interactions. We see phones like the SGS with freak GPUs but Android doesn't allow full use of them.
Phandroid made that article on a supposed "Gingerbread" leak. They claim it will introduce hardware acceleration. Hopefully thats true and we'll never hear complaints about a laggy UI again!

Forge94 said:
The reason why even iPhone 3G's can feel "smoother" than Android phones at most times: hardware acceleration.
Ever since the 2G they've had a dedicated GPU which was used to its fullest in basic UI interactions. We see phones like the SGS with freak GPUs but Android doesn't allow full use of them.
Phandroid made that article on a supposed "Gingerbread" leak. They claim it will introduce hardware acceleration. Hopefully thats true and we'll never hear complaints about a laggy UI again!
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Yup, most of the smoothness complaints is just hardware acceleration complaints. After gingerbread if it has hardware acceleration, we won't hear the laggy UI issue, we'll just hear the bandwagon "Fragmentation!"

I've finally got a smooth handset. I'm on latest cyanogen with intersect raven kernel overclocked to 1333. I'm very impressed and I'm finally enjoying this phone. Btw I'm using launcher pro to
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Low Quadrant Standard Test Score

Hi guys,
I've just run a Quad Standard test on my N1 running CM7 RC2 and am getting a score of 1199, which is lower than even the stock 2.2. I've tried with SetCPU ON & OFF, but got pretty much the same score?
A while back, I've flashed the RODS MIUI ROM & the WM Kernel (1152MHz) and ran the test only to get a score of 1192.
Wonder what could be wrong??

It's a synthetic benchmark and therefore meaningless. Does the phone run ok, does it feel like there's a problem?
The only thing Quadrant is good at measuring is how well a ROM is optimised for Quadrant

The phone runs absolutely fine. Its not like i have any issues with it, but just wanted to compare how it performs with different ROM's.

karthik247 said:
The phone runs absolutely fine. Its not like i have any issues with it, but just wanted to compare how it performs with different ROM's.
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Best to break out the stopwatch and perform some real world tests. They're the only ones that matter

The only major difference i noticed after switching to MIUI from CM7 is that booting is super fast. Besides that, everything else felt pretty much the same.
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Does anyone know how to get rid of the power widget on the notification bar?

The option is in the CM settings which can be found in the usual settings

I noticed this too when i ran the benchmark, but simply dismissed it because its not the final version of the rom, and just a RC

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The option is in the CM settings which can be found in the usual settings
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I meant in the MIUI ROM.
Also wanted to know which kernel is the better among Pershoot and WM?
After using the phone with MIUI for a couple of hours now, figured out two issues.
1. When im getting a call, the trackball starts flashing and only after a good 2-3secs does the ringer go off.
2. And while playing music videos, the audio-video sync doesnt seem to be perfect. Its as if the phone is lagging a wee bit. Could this be cuz i only got around 40mb of free space on the device??

Quadrant scores, IMO, mean nothing. They give you a numerical value on the specs and capabilities thattthe phone can do under certain situations but they don't give you any real world numbers.
Yes the scores on my 2.3.3 N1 were "low" as. Well but how do you explain it being just as fast (no exaggeration here) as a stick Atrix? I had both and took the Atrix back.
The Atrix has amazing specs and its hardware is awesome, but as an overall feel I didn't like it, the whole experience didn't feel fluid to me.
All in all, quadrant scores are good for testing stock phones and comparing specs to each other, but you should by no means use that to judge the quality or value of a phone.
That would be like buying a car off of eBay by only comparing specs and stuff written on paper; you ddon't have a feel for the car.
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Best android version 2.0, 2.1,2.2 or 2.3

Hi there
I am trying to organise a discussion on which android release is best for the milestone/droid. When comparing try and talk about:speed, usability, gaming, battery life and so forth.
P.s anyone getting lagging 3d gaming on gb?
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choudu1 said:
Hi there
I am trying to organise a discussion on which android release is best for the milestone/droid. When comparing try and talk about:speed, usability, gaming, battery life and so forth.
P.s anyone getting lagging 3d gaming on gb?
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Best overall experience performance/game/battery-wise is Eclair (2.1) for sure. If you don't mind loosing some features on GMAPS and not getting the latest GMAIL client. But you need a good sd-card and sd-ext or just not use much apps on the phone, as eclair doesn't support app2sd natively. Ah, good old time where I could play Angry Birds, pause it, open You Tube, watch a video, go back to Angry Birds which was still loaded in memory, no need to reload everything and start again....

I've heard bout that. Honestly I would go back to eclair if it wasn't for the lack of flash and apps2sd. I really don't understand what makes gb so slow
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i think the best blance between features and snappynes is 2.2 . it has a lot of additional features and it runs good. i personally love 2.3 because of the look (im a big fan of the screen-off animation) but its too slow.

Interesting. I know this sounds stupid but what's actually new in 2.2 (excluding jit and apps2sd). And on 2.1 shouldn't that be the best for gaming if you can find a rom that has jit and supports ext2. And can't you get flash from the market anyways?
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JIT takes up a lot of RAM that Milestone doesn't have =)
best performance is still Eclair... Official Froyo is laggy...

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Interesting. I know this sounds stupid but what's actually new in 2.2 (excluding jit and apps2sd). And on 2.1 shouldn't that be the best for gaming if you can find a rom that has jit and supports ext2. And can't you get flash from the market anyways?
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From what I have heard, Eclair has a 30FPS cap, so my favorite would be Froyo. I disable JIT on all ROMs as I don't notice much of a difference.
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But surely 30fps is still rather smooth
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Hi guys !
I'm a new owner of Motorola Milestone and mine came with stock 2.2.1 Froyo installed.
The thing is that despite having Froyo the interface looks just like 2.0. Main screen contains old grey tab that slides up the screen to reveal apps, camera interface is old too and there is no tethering.
I've already checked motorola update software to see if there's anything new, but apparently not and right now I don't have time to root the phone to install custom ROM (2.2 or 2.3). Is there anything I can do to get the new interface working?

Hi, have you tried Cronos Ginger ver.1.4 b4?
I just installed Plants vs Zombies on my Milestone.
No problems on my Milestone running Cronos Ginger ver.1.4 (with my Autokiller Memory settings).
See this video below:
http://youtu.be/tmCMIKdrjGE
I have also played Modern Combat 2 on the same ROM too and have completed the game.

Isn't the Cronos Ginger a custom ROM that needs rooted phone ?
Sorry for such a question, but I'm new to the subject.

pcphobic said:
Hi, have you tried Cronos Ginger ver.1.4 b4?
I just installed Plants vs Zombies on my Milestone.
No problems on my Milestone running Cronos Ginger ver.1.4 (with my Autokiller Memory settings).
See this video below:
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I have also played Modern Combat 2 on the same ROM too and have completed the game.
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This is not official version (from PopCap). Official needs about 180mb ram free to run.
Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wFqYRzC2fc and see difference.
Modern Combat 2 is working fine with 80-90mb ram free.

But still, has anyone met with such issue when stock froyo has an old interface a'la 2.0 ?

Get ADW launcher from the market. It is the lightest launcher for motorola milstoen

guys ive noticed something.
Of all the roms i think cronos runs the FASTEST. but the launchers seem to lag quite a lot. On miui (laggiest milestone rom) adw is fine(ish). But on cronos it lags
EDIT: Hmmm just checked my phone again. The lag is getting better. Spooky

Android 2.2 keeps alot apps in memory and I task killers like Adao doesn't works as good as it works on 2.1. I miss 2.1 but I'm loving the new apps on 2.2 but the memory management system is poor.

lol that video of PvZ is pathetic. My iPod Touch 4G runs that smoking smooth on its 256mb ram + 800mhz processor and retina display.
The milestone simply cannot do it.
With that said, a 512mb device can do it MUCH better. Even my Nexus S struggles since it only boots with 100mb free. A lot of crap gets killed.
I don't get why Android apps need SO MUCH RAM.

So which version actually uses the smallest amount of RAM?
Right now I'm on 2.2.1 and most of the time I have about 40MB free.

Well, it's not really about how much RAM is free, it's more like how much RAM can be freed in case you need it. So, be it Eclair or Froyo, you get around 30-40 megs free, but Eclair can free 120MB easy, without killing essential apps, while Froyo can do 85-90 with JIT and 100-105 without JIT. Unfortunatelly it is exactly those 15-20MB of RAM that we need to keep out home screen alive, or read and SMS without killing Angry Birds.

And how about Gingerbread? I'm currently waiting for new 'RTM' version of CyanogenMod 7.1 from Nadlabak and I think I'll give it a try.

Will a custom kernel like Franco solve lag issues on stock 4.2.1?

Well I'm not really experiencing a lot of lag, but it's not really smooth, even my old LG Optimus 2X running CM10 is smoother than my Nexus when scrolling through menus.
My nexus really lags a lot when scrolling through documents, and on the app drawer, especially in the widgets tab. Some games like NFS and beach buggy blitz doesn't run smoothy too.
So will a custom kernel fix everything? I don't really want to install custom ROMs.. I like how stock feel and I'm kinda sick of customizing like my LG.

Did you try disabling Background sync in Google Currents?
That should help a bit.
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alxrock said:
Did you try disabling Background sync in Google Currents?
That should help a bit.
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I cleared cache, and disabled the app altogether. Still doesn't help.

Coming from stock 4.2.1 switching to dirty aokp with Franko kernel I can say I don't really notice a difference in lag. 4.2.1 never lagged for me before and I can't understand what people are talking about. Maybe it's because I never experienced the previous versions before...

You can install Beach Buggy Blitz from Market. It is free game with great graphics. Then you can see lags, with gaming. And there is no solution for this.

gregy74 said:
You can install Beach Buggy Blitz from Market. It is free game with great graphics. Then you can see lags, with gaming. And there is no solution for this.
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Lag with a specific game is not general system lag...
All of these "lag" threads all go the same place; every random direction. No coherent information is ever formed..
I too would like to figure out how to get rid of the random lags after waking the device, during IO, just random other times while using the device etc.. I'll try a kernel, maybe a custom ROM at some point, maybe I've waited too long, but I've been using the stock rooted ROM. First device I kept the stock ROM on since I got my Nexus One, at least for a while

4.2.1 here with 0 lag. Currents background data WAS enabled, but I just shut it off. Thanks for the tip.

What kind of lag? While doing what? Without a proper description don't expect too much help.

Like everyone has said it is hard to tell without more information but generally custom kernels do provide better performance overall and therefor would probably be best for covering all the bases.

Like all machines aren't created equal, I don't seem to be experiencing any kind of lag on my device, as it is buttery smooth even in stock rom. I guess your device maybe running hot?

So I installed Franco on it, and lo and behold, the device got a lot more smoother, still running stock ROM.
But the battery is taking a plunge!! No idea why. Perhaps a re charge will solve problems.

It helps quite a bit but still nowhere near the smoothness of 4.1.2. Recent Apps button still takes a while to load for example.

My stock 4.2.1 is quite smooth, even better than a lot of custom roms. A different kernel improves it a bit, but not by much.
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i lag too. I think it is because of lack of ram. I always have to manually close out all apps to make things smooth again.(hulu and netflix use alot of ram)