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I'm considering a N1 but from what I heard from reviews, it doesn't support multi-touch out of the box (stock)
What are the necessary things to do to enable multi-touch?
Supports pinch to zoom and other similar gestures, not multi-touch. Yes, it is out of the box.
it DOES support multi touch out of the box. just search. pinch to zoom, web browser, pictures, etc all works just perfect. it just cant do 3 points or more.
Alright...so two-finger gestures are available out of the box
How above pinch and pan in Google maps? Or just pinch to zoom is supported?
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Alright...so two-finger gestures are available out of the box
How above pinch and pan in Google maps? Or just pinch to zoom is supported?
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yes pinch to zoom works flawlessly in all apps, google maps, gallery pics, web browser.
RogerPodacter said:
yes pinch to zoom works flawlessly in all apps, google maps, gallery pics, web browser.
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RogerPodacter said:
yes pinch to zoom works flawlessly in all apps, google maps, gallery pics, web browser.
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Flawlessly is a stretch, but yes it works for basic tasks.
Yeah, the implementation in google maps is sub-par. it always scales from the center of the screen not the median pinch point. This is much more obvious in Froyo due to the nice fade between map zoom levels (finally!) The browser implementation is good though.
SilentMobius said:
Yeah, the implementation in google maps is sub-par. it always scales from the center of the screen not the median pinch point. This is much more obvious in Froyo due to the nice fade between map zoom levels (finally!) The browser implementation is good though.
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can you explain this more? i'm not sure i understand.
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can you explain this more? i'm not sure i understand.
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The action of pinch to zoom creates a "center point". Move close to the center point and it zooms out, move further away and it zooms in.
Up until recently the coding for pinch to zoom always put the center point in the center of the screen, regardless of where your started the pinch action.
This creates a little bit of a mental disjoin. The latest coded for mutli touch in android addresses it and puts the center point in between the two input points.
Flawlessly is a stretch, but yes it works for basic tasks.
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Agreed. Sometimes it does work flawlessly, other times not so much...
JCopernicus said:
The action of pinch to zoom creates a "center point". Move close to the center point and it zooms out, move further away and it zooms in.
Up until recently the coding for pinch to zoom always put the center point in the center of the screen, regardless of where your started the pinch action.
This creates a little bit of a mental disjoin. The latest coded for mutli touch in android addresses it and puts the center point in between the two input points.
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In Froyo the center-point is between your fingers and not in the middle of the screen and it feels much more natural. In addition the "Pinch-to-pan" API has been added to the 2.2 SDK which allows the iPad-like maps natigation that I think the OP is referring to. I would be surprised if that wasn't in maps for the official Froyo drop.
ctbear said:
I'm considering a N1 but from what I heard from reviews, it doesn't support multi-touch out of the box (stock)
What are the necessary things to do to enable multi-touch?
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You won't tell the difference.
People just like to complain a lot. I'm playing several games from Gameloft which have joystick/buttons on the same axis on the screen, and it works 100%.
Pinch to zoom is not on the same axes (usually), so it's irrelevant.
Don't even worry about it.
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In Froyo the center-point is between your fingers and not in the middle of the screen and it feels much more natural. In addition the "Pinch-to-pan" API has been added to the 2.2 SDK which allows the iPad-like maps natigation that I think the OP is referring to. I would be surprised if that wasn't in maps for the official Froyo drop.
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Ah okay, missed the panning part.
anstosa said:
In Froyo the center-point is between your fingers and not in the middle of the screen and it feels much more natural. In addition the "Pinch-to-pan" API has been added to the 2.2 SDK which allows the iPad-like maps natigation that I think the OP is referring to. I would be surprised if that wasn't in maps for the official Froyo drop.
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Not quite right. The currently available froyo build does scale the current map image based on the center of your pinch point _but_ as soon as you release it "re-applies" the zoom you just requested as if you was performed at the center of the screen. Though this may be a side effect of having no pan-while-pinch in maps.
Though I agree that it may be corrected for the official Froyo release
Pinch to zoom and pan is implemented in the gallery in froyo. But that's the only place. Its not great, no where near as on the iPhone.
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Pinch to zoom and pan is implemented in the gallery in froyo. But that's the only place. Its not great, no where near as on the iPhone.
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Agree. And that's the one and only one reason I'm also considering iPhone4
Hi guys - sorry to hijack this thread slightly
I've just got a HTC Desire which I'm really happy with but the inability to zoom in properly in google maps is really doing my head in
I'd made a post to the official google help forum for maps but haven't got a response.
From your posts can does this mean this is an underlying deficiency within Android, rather than the Maps app?
The current behaviour is that during the action of zoom, the screen does correctly pan to the centre point of my pinch action (which would suggest to me it is capable of following where I want to be) However, as soon as you take your fingers off the map re-draws based on the original centre point. It makes maps practically unusable as you constantly have to re-centre the screen, and unless you're absolutely spot on anything but a gradual zoom throws you completely off where you thought you were. In fact it would be better if it didn't follow your finger point at all and simply zoomed in to the centre like the buttons do - at least you'd be able to follow it.
Obviously there's nothing I can do about it but I just wanted to clarify if this is something that might get fixed in another maps build or an underlying deficiency in the Android hardware or APIs. (I've got another 8 days in which I can take the phone back)
Seems that you're all taking about 2.2 builds having this behaviour but as a stock HTC Desire user I'm on 2.1 and have the same experience so it doesn't seem like any improvement from the new android
Thanks
Lee
leeevans said:
Hi guys - sorry to hijack this thread slightly
I've just got a HTC Desire which I'm really happy with but the inability to zoom in properly in google maps is really doing my head in
I'd made a post to the official google help forum for maps but haven't got a response.
From your posts can does this mean this is an underlying deficiency within Android, rather than the Maps app?
The current behaviour is that during the action of zoom, the screen does correctly pan to the centre point of my pinch action (which would suggest to me it is capable of following where I want to be) However, as soon as you take your fingers off the map re-draws based on the original centre point. It makes maps practically unusable as you constantly have to re-centre the screen, and unless you're absolutely spot on anything but a gradual zoom throws you completely off where you thought you were. In fact it would be better if it didn't follow your finger point at all and simply zoomed in to the centre like the buttons do - at least you'd be able to follow it.
Obviously there's nothing I can do about it but I just wanted to clarify if this is something that might get fixed in another maps build or an underlying deficiency in the Android hardware or APIs. (I've got another 8 days in which I can take the phone back)
Seems that you're all taking about 2.2 builds having this behaviour but as a stock HTC Desire user I'm on 2.1 and have the same experience so it doesn't seem like any improvement from the new android
Thanks
Lee
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im on stock froyo frf91 and youre right on point about pinch in google maps, its unbearable. Especially compared to the stupid f*****g iphone. Its a google os yet its maps app works horrible compared to google maps on the iphone. If you pinch less than half way, it just bounces back out to where you started, hysterically cheap. And everytime i pinch further it just keeps zooming to a different point, then of course it has to load a new image. If you notice, it never stays at the zoom level its on when you remove your fingers, it changes a lot. Its really bad ive complained before but i thought i was the only one.
I guess with just a couple people noticing how bad it is we shouldnt be holding our breath for improvement. But yeah its pretty surprising after using the iphone, you'd certainly think google would be more interested in making google maps a really smooth, solid, reliable application since its one of the most popular if not the most popular application. My iphone-owning friend used it the other day during a trip and completely gave up and we used his old ass iphone 3g it was drastically more smooth and enjoyable than my superphone
Back on original topic - N1 has dual-touch, not true multi-touch. This is pretty much irrelevant except for a few key points:
1) Palm rejection is not as good (you have to be a bit careful how you hold the device or it will use your palm as an input)
2) You can't use more than two fingers
3) "Axis snapping" - coordinates are reported separately as 2 X's and 2 Y's. Since there is ALWAYS a delay between the first and second finger press - even if it's only a few milliseconds - the phone can simply "pair" the coordinates on touch. However, if you cross the X or Y axis of the other input, you have a 50% chance of the phone mixing them up.
I've never run into problems 2 or 3, personally, and I DO game quite a bit on my phone. 1 is a simple adjustment issue, and the way you need to hold it comes naturally after a couple of weeks of use.
I decided to take the GPS and maps on my HD7 WP7 for a spin today. I'm usually more articulate with my words. I feel I'm well versed in grammar but the only word I had for the shock of maps was garbage.
I really miss google maps and Bing mobile or even my co-pilot. Talk about a limited app in functionality and value.
I couldn't tell for the most part whether my phone was connected via GPS or using aGPS. The circle was always pulsating from tiny to the whole screen.
A lot of the missing features have already been noted but I just never realized how useless it was. It just got me craving my HD2.
I really hope Google releases Google maps for WP7 so that MS can wake up.
Other than the maps it seems my GPS location is always off more than a couple feet. Is anyone else experiencing this?
I agree, Maps could use some work. Good news is that Maps is part of the big January update.
I think the Bing map has gotten a lot better in a short time.... I have no complaints myself and I've had quick and steady locks.
I'm looking forward to navigation via the update, but I'm happy at this point.
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Same here. My Maps is accurate and on point every time. And the smooth little animations are awesome as well. for me its a much better experience than I had on my hd2 and samsung vibrant. I believe if your having problems with the maps on hd7 there must be something causing it.
Yeah Bing Maps on WP7 is very poor. I'm out in Mumbai at the moment, where Bing's map data is nearly useless, but even in NY, it's atrociously poor. GPS takes time to update, but that's ok if the map displays fine. The "minimalist" UI doesn't display anything (no one zoom view will give all the names for the roads shown on the map).
What use is it to see a bunch of criss-crossing lines (see below) if I don't know what they are? Especially if you're navigating in a new area and are looking for cross-streets, landmarks, etc., the WP7 Maps UI paradigm is highly counter-productive (vs. Google Maps, or even Bing on other platforms, which show traditional, much more useful, maps).
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Yeah Bing Maps on WP7 is very poor. I'm out in Mumbai at the moment, where Bing's map data is nearly useless, but even in NY, it's atrociously poor. GPS takes time to update, but that's ok if the map displays fine. The "minimalist" UI doesn't display anything (no one zoom view will give all the names for the roads shown on the map).
What use is it to see a bunch of criss-crossing lines (see below) if I don't know what they are? Especially if you're navigating in a new area and are looking for cross-streets, landmarks, etc., the WP7 Maps UI paradigm is highly counter-productive (vs. Google Maps, or even Bing on other platforms, which show traditional, much more useful, maps).
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Switching out of Ariel/Satellite view might really help there
You want to live in the UK - Bing totally rubbish compared with good old Google Maps on my old WM.
Searched for my local takaway and it couldn't even find it - really frustrating!
Come on MS get your act together!
CD (UK)
I live in NJ and I have no Issues with Bing maps. No doubt Google maps spoiled me, but Bing is good too. I am sure they would improve on these in their next iteration. C'mon guys, you got to know it only gets better from this point. MS has learnt a huge lesson with their Windows Mobile. They realized that if they don't keep up, other OS will walk all over them. With their first iteration of this OS, it's smooth like butter... and Everything works as its suppose to. Now they would start refining stuff...
I Agree!
alabij said:
I decided to take the GPS and maps on my HD7 WP7 for a spin today. I'm usually more articulate with my words. I feel I'm well versed in grammar but the only word I had for the shock of maps was garbage.
I really miss google maps and Bing mobile or even my co-pilot. Talk about a limited app in functionality and value.
I couldn't tell for the most part whether my phone was connected via GPS or using aGPS. The circle was always pulsating from tiny to the whole screen.
A lot of the missing features have already been noted but I just never realized how useless it was. It just got me craving my HD2.
I really hope Google releases Google maps for WP7 so that MS can wake up.
Other than the maps it seems my GPS location is always off more than a couple feet. Is anyone else experiencing this?
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The indicator showing where you were pulsating from tiny to your exact location to the entire screen was your signal; it has nothing to do with the phone, or the maps.
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The indicator showing where you were pulsating from tiny to your exact location to the entire screen was your signal; it has nothing to do with the phone, or the maps.
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I don't know what you mean by it has nothing to do with the phone. The signal is the phone. My point in my OP is that when I stand at a point in an open space it pulsates. Common sense tells me that if the bubble is a dot then its using GPS; if its a big circle the size of the screen it's using AGPS or not enough satellites are locked.
Of all the phones I've had if I stand in an open space and I'm stagnant and aquire a GPS signal I'm locked. my devices will never loose the satellites or switch to AGPS. My HD7 seems to do that.
The quality of the hardware and the algorithm the OS or the chips use determines the quality of the signal other than the obvious being my physical location.
It might be a software issue though. It is version 1.0...
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I don't know what you mean by it has nothing to do with the phone. The signal is the phone. My point in my OP is that when I stand at a point in an open space it pulsates. Common sense tells me that if the bubble is a dot then its using GPS; if its a big circle the size of the screen it's using AGPS or not enough satellites are locked.
Of all the phones I've had if I stand in an open space and I'm stagnant and aquire a GPS signal I'm locked. my devices will never loose the satellites or switch to AGPS. My HD7 seems to do that.
The quality of the hardware and the algorithm the OS or the chips use determines the quality of the signal other than the obvious being my physical location.
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I can't wait for the first update. It will be a good judgment of how future updates will look and how much power MS is putting into this new product.
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Hi,
Anyone has problem with Maps like mine? My Maps app only has 2 icons: "Me" and "Search". I don't have the "Direction" icon, so I can't search for direction, and the "Search" function doesn't work as well When I click search, it returns me to the Bing Search, not Maps search.
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Hi,
Anyone has problem with Maps like mine? My Maps app only has 2 icons: "Me" and "Search". I don't have the "Direction" icon, so I can't search for direction, and the "Search" function doesn't work as well When I click search, it returns me to the Bing Search, not Maps search.
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haven't run across that.
I'm in the UK and I too have not been impressed with Bing Maps. It's fine if you are ona main road but I had to go to a side street of Brick Lane last week and not many of the streetnames were showing up on the map. The streets were there, just no names.
Bing and Google Navigator on WM did not support trun by turn Navigation in the UK, I hope this improves under WP7.
Come on Tomtom, Garmin Co-Pilot, pull your fingers out!!!!
arthoang said:
Hi,
Anyone has problem with Maps like mine? My Maps app only has 2 icons: "Me" and "Search". I don't have the "Direction" icon, so I can't search for direction, and the "Search" function doesn't work as well When I click search, it returns me to the Bing Search, not Maps search.
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Same with me. My biggest complaint so far is the search feature. I typed in "KFC" as in Kentuck Fried Chicken and it said "No Results" lol. Really??
And tried a local store and in showed me results in another part of the country.
I can be patient for the update but still prefer google maps.
Got the same issue and no clue about how solve it. If you find one could you msg me?
Btw I tried to reset the phone and NOK
Oh and I forgot how much I hate how when typing a location it doesn't start auto-suggesting like Google Maps does. Instead it forces you to type what your searching for letter by letter 100% correctly. And you better hope you do otherwise you're like me I spelled the street name "Britiania Rd" with 2 t's like "Brittania Rd" and ended up 150 miles away from what I was actually looking for. And it didn't even give me the choice to choose between the two!!!
Not sure how everybody else feels... I don't see a need to cry about everything, but I'm ASSUMING that since MS put out such a cool version of Bing Maps for the iTurd that they will do the same if not better for their own OS.
But at the same time I'm hoping for a Google hook-up too. I'd like to see a Google Hub where you can add the G-services you use... Maps, Gmail, Calendar, voice, Picasa, etc. Being able to access my "places" on GMaps would be kinda handy... but then again I have it saved on Bing too, so yeah... c'mon MS.
OK, I'm frustrated.
I have been trying to add my gtab to my devices on the new Market site, and have so far been unable to do so. Actually, that is not exactly true. I can get it to show up partially.
I have a Droid phone, and I see the phone when I go to my Market Account, Settings, My Devices. I enter the new nickname for my tablet.. [tablet, gtablet, Viewsonic G-Tablet, Malata ... all tried separately], I check the "show in menus" option. Press the Update button on the right. And nothing happens. The Maker, Model, Carrier columns for the tablet are empty, with only a hyphen. I cannot enter information directly into these columns, and whenever I try to download something, only the phone shows up. When I click on the little black triangle to expand the devices, I DO see the GTablet there. But it is grayed out with a question mark beside it. It says it is not compatible with this device. Every single app is not compatible with my tablet?
What am I missing?
Full Market fix
You need to change the build.prop file. Use steps 1-5 here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861044
Ya funny thing is, I think mine showed up (and someone will correct me I bet) as VS GTablet Advent Vegan 5.1.
Something like that but I thought oh they even know I am running the VEGAn ROM. Interesting indeed.
i'm runing vega5.1 and i had to do nothing... he just appeared..
but yesterday i had to do the market fix again and it disappeared.. LOL
weird
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You need to change the build.prop file. Use steps 1-5 here:
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my build.prop is correct and does not appear on market...
like i said before, it appeared then after fixing market again it does not
Same. I had to do the market fix again, and then my device disappeared. It was showing the TNT-Lite version beforehand, but now - nada.
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Same. I had to do the market fix again, and then my device disappeared. It was showing the TNT-Lite version beforehand, but now - nada.
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I had the EXACT same thing happen to me. It was there as a malata gtab running tnt lite, and I had to do market fix again. Now its like it was never there. Is there anyone we can talk to at google about this? Like a customer support type?
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Maybe it is just the simple fact that this tablet is not supposed to be on the market at all. So calling Google to ask why your tablet with the hacked market doesn't work probably won't get you very far.
What is the big deal with this web market anyway? I have no problem using the market app on the tablet.
Agree
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Maybe it is just the simple fact that this tablet is not supposed to be on the market at all. So calling Google to ask why your tablet with the hacked market doesn't work probably won't get you very far.
What is the big deal with this web market anyway? I have no problem using the market app on the tablet.
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+1 I just use the market on the tablet.... My device(for now) is showing in web market.
My G-Tab running Vegan 5.1 is working in the new market with no changes or modifications except editing the nickname. I installed an app to it via the new market already. Since I have a Droid also, I kinda like the ability to install on either or both devices. YMMV, apparently...
Nvidia VEGAn-TAB-v1.0.0B5.1
My tablet showed up under the web-based market as: "Nvidia VEGAn-TAB-v1.0.0B5.1 ". I added a nickname and downloaded some applications. Since I wasn't connected to the internet at the time it was held in abeyance. Once I got a wifi connection, boom down they came. So I can now peruse the market at work or as I monitor these forums, find an application, purchase it (or not) while I am still thinking about it and have it update the tablet the next time it connects. Not bad functionality for someone like me whose work environment is wifi restricted.
I still have one issue I would like to see Google fix. I purchased a application under one gmail account but after reflashing from tnt-lite to Vegan Tab I put my other account on the device first. Now I can't update that application without some tricky effort. Not sure I want to go through that effort or pay the $5 again
While that was me being stupid, I proposed to Google that I could envision the case where I might want to purchase an application with my work credit card and put that on their tablet and also purchase an application with my personal credit card. Their current schema doesn't allow for that. I can see where with telephones it might be a little more personal but tablets may start becoming shared devices say within a family.
What they seem to have for that situation is the ability to use more than one CC with the account. In that case you could use your work CC for some and personal for others.
Not a help for your situation, but it does address the situation you proposed.
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Maybe it is just the simple fact that this tablet is not supposed to be on the market at all. So calling Google to ask why your tablet with the hacked market doesn't work probably won't get you very far.
What is the big deal with this web market anyway? I have no problem using the market app on the tablet.
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The point was that there is no reason for Google to not support the g tab with ANY Rom. They support the galaxy tab, the. Streak too. Why is it ok for those devices? Is it because they are tied to a service and not just WiFi?
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Frrrrrrunkis said:
The point was that there is no reason for Google to not support the g tab with ANY Rom. They support the galaxy tab, the. Streak too. Why is it ok for those devices? Is it because they are tied to a service and not just WiFi?
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Google has prerequisites that must be met for a device to have official and supported Market. GPS and cellular radio are on that list if I'm not mistaken.
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My tablet showed up under the web-based market as: "Nvidia VEGAn-TAB-v1.0.0B5.1 ". I added a nickname and downloaded some applications.
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I'm getting the same showing up in my market access, but where we differ, is I have yet to have an application actually download to my tablet. I've gone through 5-6 different apps that did show the G-Tablet as a compatible device, and these were not installed on my tablet before going to the web market...
The big difference now is I am seeing lots more apps using the legacy Market app on the tablet.
I figured the first week or so would be pounding the web market, and things seem to be settling down, if just a small bit.
Frrrrrrunkis said:
The point was that there is no reason for Google to not support the g tab with ANY Rom. They support the galaxy tab, the. Streak too. Why is it ok for those devices? Is it because they are tied to a service and not just WiFi?
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I think that they are not trying to give us a hard time as much as they are just trying to have some sort of way to keep things manageable. I mean, they set certain guidelines that devices need to follow to get market access so hopefully most of the apps will work. GPS, and cell type data connection are a couple requirements. Why? I don't know. Guess they had to start somewhere.
I think it is also done so developers can build apps that hopefully work for the types of devices that do qualify. Imagine how hard it would be to make apps that worked on every variation of Android out there. How often do we have issues with apps that don't work on one rom, but work on a different rom.
Maybe it was just to try and keep the market from being like the wild wild west...
Apple has it pretty easy. There are only a couple of hardware platforms they need to worry about. How about Android? There are probably a 1000 different hardware variants out there.
I really won't be surprised if they come up with a way to keep all non qualified devices off the market. Not that big of a deal really if they do though.
So far my tablet is showing on the new market and allows me to download apps to it. I'm running vegan tab 5.1 if that helps anyone...
Sprdtyf350 said:
I think that they are not trying to give us a hard time as much as they are just trying to have some sort of way to keep things manageable. I mean, they set certain guidelines that devices need to follow to get market access so hopefully most of the apps will work. GPS, and cell type data connection are a couple requirements. Why? I don't know. Guess they had to start somewhere.
I think it is also done so developers can build apps that hopefully work for the types of devices that do qualify. Imagine how hard it would be to make apps that worked on every variation of Android out there. How often do we have issues with apps that don't work on one rom, but work on a different rom.
Maybe it was just to try and keep the market from being like the wild wild west...
Apple has it pretty easy. There are only a couple of hardware platforms they need to worry about. How about Android? There are probably a 1000 different hardware variants out there.
I really won't be surprised if they come up with a way to keep all non qualified devices off the market. Not that big of a deal really if they do though.
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You are probably right, i tend to lean towards everything being based on how these companies can make the most money. Like if what i said is true, maybe then google gets a bigger kick back from the carriers, or phone manufacterers. Its ATT 's fault really, lmao, since everything they do is based on getting more money from me as a subscriber. it seems loke they try to make evry feature, an extra charge, without lowering the standard monthly fees. (i know i am most likely wrong, it just seems this way to me). I am not askin for free stuff, it just seems like they keep the services i want out of my pockets' reach.
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Web market woes
I can confirm web market was working running TNT Lite... stopped working after redoing market fix. Web market working again... after flashing Vegan and wiping data.
For the people with working web based market: did you change your android id? if you did, did you change it to a different devices id or did you use one from an emulator?
What's the best Google Reader app that will work for the VG?
Well...have you tried the, uh, Google Reader app?
Of course. But I am unable to get my account to connect to it I get a no accounts message and hitting "add accojnt" gets me an unableto sign in message.
I use Pulse:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.alphonso.pulse&feature=search_result
works awesome, syncs with my google reader account perfectly and works great on a large screen.
I tried it a long time ago on my phone and I didn't like it, mostly because it didn't seem to fit well on the phone, but on the gTablet it's all kinds of awesome.
No issues whatsoever on vegan gingerbread rc1
I have used a bunch of the available options. If you want a fancy GUI and don't follow a ton of feeds there is pulse or feedly. A quicker/more pro type reader would be newsrob, g_reader, feedr or goodnews. Rssdemon is good, but doesn't 2 way sunc with Google reader. I think newrob might be the best of these right now, but this is very subjective and changes with releases.
I have been pleased with the features and flexibility of gReader. Works in conjunction with Google Reader feeds, and great for offline downloading and reading of RSS feeds. As I have a long commute without wireless access, the offline reading works well on the gTablet.
FeedR is the best out there. I have pulse, but just to show off. Pulse is rather pointless if you follow more than 10 feeds.
I have a problem with Google Reader and that when I click on an article it gives me a small window, about the size of a mobile phone screen to read the article and when I go back one level, it goes full screen again.
Try NewsRob
couchmonkey said:
I have a problem with Google Reader and that when I click on an article it gives me a small window, about the size of a mobile phone screen to read the article and when I go back one level, it goes full screen again.
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I have the same issue.
I've settled on NewsRob, which I've been using on my phone forever. Works good enough with the large GTab screen.
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I have a problem with Google Reader and that when I click on an article it gives me a small window, about the size of a mobile phone screen to read the article and when I go back one level, it goes full screen again.
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Did you email Google for support? If you do and enough people mention it they will incorporate it into their next build.
It's apparently a version problem, in 0.9.3....0.9.2 didn't have that problem. If I could find the 9.2 .apk file, I'd go back one version.
From my experience the "tiny window" issue is a result of the DPI setting on Vegan Tab. In order to correct an issue with the market not displaying correctly the DPI has to be set to 161, but that throws off other apps. Mainly Google Reader it seams.
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I have used a lot of the readers out there. My current favorite is GoodNews. I use a lot of feeds (200+) and it seems to be the only one that can handle this load. The dev is doing a lot of new stuff and improvements.
I just recently found D7 and I'm a pretty big fan. Pretty fully featured with a nice interface. Fast too!
Ok, so I was really excited when Google discussed at I/O the ability to save map data for certain areas to be able to access it with our Nexus7's without a data connection. Obviously on a tablet with no 3G/4G/LTE/etc. connectivity, this is a requirement to be able to use it as a GPS device.
When I got mine, I saved my entire home region. It seems to cap out around 85MB in size, so you can't just save the entire country, which is fine. I also noticed that the amount of space required seems to be tied to the size of the map you make, and has nothing to do with the amount of streets, cities, etc. (aka data) for that location (ie: New York City takes up the same amount of space as Nowheresville, MT). This was a little confusing, but OK.
Anyway, here is my issue. The other day, I took my Nexus7 for a road trip, and tried to use the Navigation app. It was able to show me where I was in real time, and give somewhat-detailed street information which was nice. However, it doesn't actually know how to GET anywhere. In other words, if you try to give it a destination, it fails, requiring Internet access. I tried addresses, cities, business names (who are actually on the map) as well as just clicking somewhere and asking it to provide a route. Nothing.
So I ask this: what good is offline map storage if you can't actually DO anything with it?
Don't get me wrong, I understand that this is a new feature and might not be fully developed. But based on the Google I/O presentation, they made it out to be much more functional than it is. Something along the lines of "Going to a different city? Just preload your Nexus7 with the map for the area and you're good to go!". Sure, if all you want is a static map and want to try and figure out directions yourself, I guess that will work. But it certainly doesn't provide anywhere near the functionality required for an offline GPS device.
Unless of course I'm missing something - but I doubt it.
I agree and I don't think you're missing something. For the size of the data it downloads for a given area, I believe it has all the address so I why can't one do a search of somewhere?
Might have something to do with apple taking aim at local search functions with their lawsuits? Finding that information would probably require accessing the function in question.
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Might have something to do with apple taking aim at local search functions with their lawsuits? Finding that information would probably require accessing the function in question.
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Possibly, but I doubt it. AFAIK, the "local search" issue was with Samsung allowing users to run a search query which would also perform the search on local apps, files, etc. It had nothing to do with map searching, which would fall under a completely different scope. And the app supports it, but just seems to require Internet to make it work.
Also, while Samsung seemingly took it out of one/some of their devices with an OTA update, they later said this was an accident, and have pushed a fix out to put it back.
I given up with Offline Maps, really it just the same as having a paper map that only covers a limited area, instead I've been using NavFree, does navigation, address search, points of interest all without a data connection.
The Apple/Samsung lawsuit is 100% unrelated to offline search in maps. Google it, do some reading, and you'll see what I mean. I have GPS Copilot installed for any offline needs I may have.
Yeah dude google maps offline is a joke. You'll need to
1) start your destination somewhere you are connected to wifi
2) wait for google maps offline to not suck so bad
3) use a different app
Or just root your phone and tether...that's what I've been doing for years.
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Or just root your phone and tether...that's what I've been doing for years.
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That doesn't solve the problem, it's simply a work around.
Sure, if you have wifi or tethering you can get online and get live maps/route data. But that doesn't negate the fact that Google Maps Offline is seriously flawed. It should work without needing to be online, otherwise what's the point of saving offline map data in the first place.
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That doesn't solve the problem, it's simply a work around.
Sure, if you have wifi or tethering you can get online and get live maps/route data. But that doesn't negate the fact that Google Maps Offline is seriously flawed. It should work without needing to be online, otherwise what's the point of saving offline map data in the first place.
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It's much better than not having the map at all. If you have a GPS (like the Nexus 7 does), you still see yourself on the map where you are. The only thing missing is the blue line to your destination. It's limited, sure, but it's a lot better than not having a map at all to see your GPS location on.
+1 for NavFree though. If you need navigation (like in cities you aren't familiar with), this is a lifesaver, even if it eats battery rapidly and is very slow (at least on my Galaxy S).
I'm sure Google can/will release offline navigation in time (possibly along with entire country map downloads), but probably not until Apple pushes them to by releasing their own offline navigation.
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I given up with Offline Maps, really it just the same as having a paper map that only covers a limited area, instead I've been using NavFree, does navigation, address search, points of interest all without a data connection.
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I used the offline maps with directions when i started out on a data connection and then immediately turned it off. I started the n7 navigation with it tethered to my phone, once navigation has established its route, I disconnect my data and the directions continue to work.
This worked for me. It may not work for you, I do apologize if I waste your time.
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I use offline maps quite a bit.
Navigation is usually useless for most of the back country roads I'm on. Having a map and GPS showing me where I am in relation to where I need to be (pre-set waypoints) is awesome and is better than nothing.
Another app I use often is Maverick with pre-cached satellite maps. I'd dump Maverick if Google Maps had offline satellite and topo maps.
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I given up with Offline Maps, really it just the same as having a paper map that only covers a limited area, instead I've been using NavFree, does navigation, address search, points of interest all without a data connection.
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Thank you for showing me this app! That's perfect, and just what I'm looking for. Looks like it will work amazingly!
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I wish apps could use the cached data from Maps, but so far each app I've tried appears to download it and cache it directly. No idea if it's even possible to to, but it'd be nice if all apps could access the cache and use it.
As for the OP, this has been discussed since Maps first released.... It does not have the engine or routing data to do offline navigation. Maybe it will in the future, but it does not today.
try Co-pilot GPS from the market. It's free, and it downloads maps and stores them on the phone. If you have any svox classic voices purchased you will get the more advanced street names as part of the turn by turn verbal directions. I haven't tried this version yet, but it looks great and for free you have nothing to lose.
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Or just root your phone and tether...that's what I've been doing for years.
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Tether to what? I already pay $70 a month for internet at home I am sure as hell not gonna pay for more data
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IMO, for a FREE navigation app, I think you get a little more than you paid for...
The Turn-by-Turn directions require a data connection initially. But once it has downloaded the directions, you can use it offline and still get the voice directions - I tested it out on Saturday. You want to leave it connected a few minutes so it can cache all the map tiles along the route. If you don't let it finish caching the route, there will be places where you can see the route and get voice nagivation, but the streets won't show up.
If you deviate from the route, however, you will lose any navigation until you get back on the suggested route. You can see your route on the map, but there won't be any streets showing up at your location - even if you have chached the entire area in maps. If you zoom out you can see the suggested route. The voice nagivation will try to get you to turn around and go back since it can't recalculate the route. It needs more than just a map to calculate the route. It doesn't read a map the way you or I would to get directions...:silly:
I had maps and navigation running at the same time, and when I left the suggested route I switched over to maps (leaving navigation running in the background) and could see the streets I was on. A bit crude but it worked...
Once in range of the suggested route, the voice navigation will pick back up again and continue from there, and the streets will show up again.
I really hope Google eventually allows client side navigation, instead of server side requiring a data plan or wifi.
I've used Google Navigation on my tablet by calculating a route prior to disconnect from wifi, and their Navigation is hands down the best available for Android.
I've tried other Navigation apps, and they're super slow compared to Google, especially when it comes to re-routing or telling when you turned. Google almost re-routes you instantly when you go off route, other apps sometimes take a full minute before they set another route. Plus, Goole's street naming is fantastic for audible directions.
Offline maps is something, but off line route planning will be the ultimate offering.
I don't see how this could be too difficult to enable. Sure, maybe there are patent issues to work out (possible, but unlikely). But this functionality is already present in cheap GPS devices. The maps themselves take up a lot of space (a couple gigs on average for the entire US on a dedicated GPS unit), but if we download an 85MB region map, all the streets/addresses should already be built in. So it comes down to getting the routing engine to work offline. I'm not sure how big or complex this is, but IMHO it should be a simple addition.
And yes, it's "free" so we are getting what we pay for, but still.
As I mentioned earlier, my biggest disappointment was that Google made it out to be a fully comprehensive update to Google Maps, when it really isn't.
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I don't see how this could be too difficult to enable. Sure, maybe there are patent issues to work out (possible, but unlikely). But this functionality is already present in cheap GPS devices. The maps themselves take up a lot of space (a couple gigs on average for the entire US on a dedicated GPS unit), but if we download an 85MB region map, all the streets/addresses should already be built in. So it comes down to getting the routing engine to work offline. I'm not sure how big or complex this is, but IMHO it should be a simple addition.
And yes, it's "free" so we are getting what we pay for, but still.
As I mentioned earlier, my biggest disappointment was that Google made it out to be a fully comprehensive update to Google Maps, when it really isn't.
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I would love to know Google's reasoning behind server side routing only. I've searched around, but can't find a definitive answer. I always figured they stay clear from allowing off-line routing because you'll lose out on real-time traffic condition, weather, accident updates, etc.