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This wud b a cool lock app lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhwHIOW5dYE&feature=related

It would require a hardware camera facing the user. Not possible on current Android hardware.

jordanjay29 said:
It would require a hardware camera facing the user. Not possible on current Android hardware.
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Lol...i put the wrong link...its corrected

Correction, then, it would require working multitouch on Android software and hardware. Currently, the Dream screens are capable of 1D multitouch, not 2D which the Hero has. Which means that any time the fingers crossed the same horizontal or vertical lines, the multitouch would screw up.
Multitouch in the browsers is a hack for this model and software version. Cryanogen seems to think that multitouch native capability is included in the Donut line, but we'll see how much gets pushed back to the main project in the future. We could be looking at multitouch devices as early as when Donut is pushed back into the project, or further down the road. So perhaps 2010, 2011.

jordanjay29 said:
Correction, then, it would require working multitouch on Android software and hardware. Currently, the Dream screens are capable of 1D multitouch, not 2D which the Hero has. Which means that any time the fingers crossed the same horizontal or vertical lines, the multitouch would screw up.
Multitouch in the browsers is a hack for this model and software version. Cryanogen seems to think that multitouch native capability is included in the Donut line, but we'll see how much gets pushed back to the main project in the future. We could be looking at multitouch devices as early as when Donut is pushed back into the project, or further down the road. So perhaps 2010, 2011.
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Hmmm true...however since its open source u never know lol....but this cud for now be implement using single touch where u can put a combination...

Actually that lock is run on a htc diamond/touch pro which does not have multi touch. Its also running WM which I believe doesn't even support multi touch itself.

This can get by without multitouch, just make it so that you dont twist the combo but just use one finger to move the numbers.

I just started messing around with making a lock srceen last night. I made one that is like the ophone with a circle moving around. I think a touch dial is what im going to try next.

Cool. I'd love to try that out. You mind sharing?

not quite ready for use yet, still need to get it setup right. Here are some screens, I cant take all the credit i learned from the slideunlocker source code.

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not quite ready for use yet, still need to get it setup right. Here are some screens, I cant take all the credit i learned from the slideunlocker source code.
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Those look AWESOME. Keep up the good work. Just be careful about that notifications lock. You might want to put your app on a timer if it starts at bootup, I believe one app waits for 60 seconds before activating to avoid the notifications bar lock.

what do you mean notification bar lock?

Heh, I'd like to see one that was a rotary dial.

That should not be too hard to make, would you need a seires of numbers to unlock or just need to rotate it so much?

I found the app that I mentioned.
http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.blau.android.keyguard
Both this application and the Slide Unlocker (Lock 2.0) had issues when they would start automatically at boot. Whenever users would attempt to unlock their screen, the notification bar would be locked (could not be brought down) for several seconds. This occurred even outside of the lock screen, and was very annoying.
The application I linked says that they wait 60 seconds on boot to avoid this issue. You might email the author to get more information on it.
As for the rotary dial: http://www.cyrket.com/package/benor.dial Already made.

I have created a working dial, but im not sure how to turn it into an unlocking mechanism maybe a simplified 10 number dial with a combo.

Does anybody know the intricacies of google maps?

Ive tried on the iphone and iphone 3g, when i pinch google maps on those phones it just zooms in or out, it loads the map as a single image and you navigate anywhere on that image. But when i pinch on an android phone (ive tried on the nexus, slide, vibrant g1, g2 and evo) it has to load a new image and from what i can tell, wherever i pinch to, it then loads an image of the maps at some point relatively near where i zoom. So where the iphones load the entire map and just zoom to wherever you pinch, android has to load different images and they arent where you actually pinch, like it has a number of levels it can zoom to, and when you pinch it, it just loads the image it has thats closest to where you zoom. Its disorienting and extremely not smooth, but then i might not even bring this up if i hadnt used iphones so much, so i guess thats my fault. Maybe that doesnt make sense, if you try on an iphone then an android you cant miss it. Its actually a big deal, especially since it should work better on an android phone. Does anybody know what i am describing and can anyone explain it better than me and possibly explain why and if we could expect it to get better?

Im almost positive i started this exact same thread some time ago. But im still looking for answers maybe this thread will be more productive. Google maps is the best app on android i think, it does a lot of great stuff, its so useful and the gps navigation is just awesome. But damn if it isnt almost adulterous how much smoother and coherent the zooming is on the stupid iphone version (at least the last few iphones, ive never touched the original iphone). Like you, If i wasnt aware of how well it works on the iphone this would likely be a non issue, i mean google maps on android obviously has zooming issues but i wouldnt know it could be different if not for apple so i might not care.
i am also really curious to learn the technical explanation, and whether or not we should just get used to it. But its a very blatant effect thats happening so its surprising not much is said about it, i guess the people who havent messed with google maps on an iphone wouldnt even notice it as something that could be better and more accurate in the first place.
And I wouldnt mind that it has to load a new image for every pinch if it would just load an image of the level of zoom i pinched to, but youre spot on, it seems like it has certain levels of zoomed images, and it loads the image that is nearest to the one you pinch to. I mean almost everytime i zoom in or out, i have to take time to figure out what its showing me because it really isnt loading an image of where i think its going to be. And like you ive tried it on all sorts of androids, the ones you said plus the incredible, droid, and droid x and its across the board. still love the app, and im pretty sure apple doesnt get the free google navigation although i may be wrong on that. but its embarrassing that the stupid iphone does it so much better, it just aint right.
BTW i was messing with my friends I4 the other day, and the screen looked microscopic. I mean, its the most brilliant, crisp screen in existence on a mobile device, but i have a vibrant ive been using and compared to it, and even my nexus, that I4 feels like a g1!! i dont know why they are so proud of that 3.5" form...

Google Maps has several, predefined levels of zoom. Both on mobile and on desktop. You can easily see that - look at the ruler at the lower left corner and note the ~x2 changes.
On Android it just goes from one level to another.
I've never used iPhone, so I wouldn't know, but since the levels of zoom are the same across implementations, I guess that it's something else rather than "any zoom". I'll try to take one to play with to see what's the difference and find an explanation you're looking for.

Jack_R1 said:
Google Maps has several, predefined levels of zoom. Both on mobile and on desktop. You can easily see that - look at the ruler at the lower left corner and note the ~x2 changes.
On Android it just goes from one level to another.
I've never used iPhone, so I wouldn't know, but since the levels of zoom are the same across implementations, I guess that it's something else rather than "any zoom". I'll try to take one to play with to see what's the difference and find an explanation you're looking for.
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Any luck finding a 3g or newer to try Google maps on?
I think that setting aesthetics aside, I'm real interested because sometimes ill have a point picked out on the map, like and address or store or whatever, and I've zoomed in and the image it loads doesn't even have the point anymore, I have to scroll around and find it. But the point is clearly front and center while my fingers are still touching the screen, after ive pinched to my desired level. But then once I remove my fingers, its like rolling the dice to see what maps image its going to load. I really like Google maps, its one of the best things about android phones, navigation is superb. But the zooming problem is on every android and since its smooth and accurate on that "other" phone I'm sure it can be just as good on android. Hell its an android app for crying out loud!!!! So I'm interested to see what you determine.

I didn't have a chance to play with iPhone, but I've checked my own Google maps again, and I believe I know the reason for the behavior you're describing. It's a known bug, if I'm not mistaken (which doesn't make it less annoying). In any case, it's worth reporting to Google.
In Google maps on Android, when you pinch to zoom, you see the zoom-in to whatever is between your fingers. But when you release your fingers, the point to which the map zooms is - dead center of the previous screen, which does or doesn't correspond to the place you were zooming to. Try to do the following - load a map on any zoom level, move it so the center of the screen will be easily identifiable, and try to zoom on any point which isn't the center. As long as you'll keep your fingers on the screen - you'll see the point you're zooming into, and when you release - note that you have this object, that was right in the screen center before, zoomed in.
It's funny that this bug appears only on Android...

http://www.google.ms/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=29c21834e668f277&hl=en
Here's another guy that noted it (and wrote his own code for multitouch controller):
http://code.google.com/p/android-multitouch-controller/
I believe there's no bug report on this yet, I didn't find one. So I opened one:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=12259
Please star the issue.

[Q] Gmail font size

Ok..so I've had the Captivate for 3 weeks and have put it through the paces..besides a few items I can live with, the one that is a HUGE issue is the font size in the gmail application. I visited my daughter and played with her Iphone and it baffles me how the Iphone can pinch to zoom in and out in the gmail app, and an android device like the Captivate cannot (AFAIK at least). There's a LOT of folks on this forum..surely someone has come across a solution for this? If you're in your mid 50's it is a big issue..maybe the target demographics for this phone indicated a "who cares" on the part of Samsung & ATT, but it's a shortfall IMO

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Ok..so I've had the Captivate for 3 weeks and have put it through the paces..besides a few items I can live with, the one that is a HUGE issue is the font size in the gmail application. I visited my daughter and played with her Iphone and it baffles me how the Iphone can pinch to zoom in and out in the gmail app, and an android device like the Captivate cannot (AFAIK at least). There's a LOT of folks on this forum..surely someone has come across a solution for this? If you're in your mid 50's it is a big issue..maybe the target demographics for this phone indicated a "who cares" on the part of Samsung & ATT, but it's a shortfall IMO
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I'm pretty sure we can't pinch to zoom in our Gmail app but you can increase the font size. Keep in mind that the gmail app is now (Android 2.2+) download-able through the market so hopefully we'll get an update to allow pinch to zoom.
Open Gmail.
Menu (far left capacitive button)
More
Settings
Message Text Size
Options are: Tiny, Small, Normal, Large, Huge.

skinien said:
I'm pretty sure we can't pinch to zoom in our Gmail app but you can increase the font size. Keep in mind that the gmail app is now (Android 2.2+) download-able through the market so hopefully we'll get an update to allow pinch to zoom.
Open Gmail.
Menu (far left capacitive button)
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Settings
Message Text Size
Options are: Tiny, Small, Normal, Large, Huge.
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Thanks for the reply..but when I do the above I get: menu>more>...then the only options are mute and report spam. Do you have a different model Captivate?

fldude99 said:
Thanks for the reply..but when I do the above I get: menu>more>...then the only options are mute and report spam. Do you have a different model Captivate?
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I think those options are only with 2.2, the 2.1 firmware don't have those functions.

WP7 Maps = Garbage

I decided to take the GPS and maps on my HD7 WP7 for a spin today. I'm usually more articulate with my words. I feel I'm well versed in grammar but the only word I had for the shock of maps was garbage.
I really miss google maps and Bing mobile or even my co-pilot. Talk about a limited app in functionality and value.
I couldn't tell for the most part whether my phone was connected via GPS or using aGPS. The circle was always pulsating from tiny to the whole screen.
A lot of the missing features have already been noted but I just never realized how useless it was. It just got me craving my HD2.
I really hope Google releases Google maps for WP7 so that MS can wake up.
Other than the maps it seems my GPS location is always off more than a couple feet. Is anyone else experiencing this?

I agree, Maps could use some work. Good news is that Maps is part of the big January update.

I think the Bing map has gotten a lot better in a short time.... I have no complaints myself and I've had quick and steady locks.
I'm looking forward to navigation via the update, but I'm happy at this point.
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Same here. My Maps is accurate and on point every time. And the smooth little animations are awesome as well. for me its a much better experience than I had on my hd2 and samsung vibrant. I believe if your having problems with the maps on hd7 there must be something causing it.

Yeah Bing Maps on WP7 is very poor. I'm out in Mumbai at the moment, where Bing's map data is nearly useless, but even in NY, it's atrociously poor. GPS takes time to update, but that's ok if the map displays fine. The "minimalist" UI doesn't display anything (no one zoom view will give all the names for the roads shown on the map).
What use is it to see a bunch of criss-crossing lines (see below) if I don't know what they are? Especially if you're navigating in a new area and are looking for cross-streets, landmarks, etc., the WP7 Maps UI paradigm is highly counter-productive (vs. Google Maps, or even Bing on other platforms, which show traditional, much more useful, maps).

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Yeah Bing Maps on WP7 is very poor. I'm out in Mumbai at the moment, where Bing's map data is nearly useless, but even in NY, it's atrociously poor. GPS takes time to update, but that's ok if the map displays fine. The "minimalist" UI doesn't display anything (no one zoom view will give all the names for the roads shown on the map).
What use is it to see a bunch of criss-crossing lines (see below) if I don't know what they are? Especially if you're navigating in a new area and are looking for cross-streets, landmarks, etc., the WP7 Maps UI paradigm is highly counter-productive (vs. Google Maps, or even Bing on other platforms, which show traditional, much more useful, maps).
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Switching out of Ariel/Satellite view might really help there

You want to live in the UK - Bing totally rubbish compared with good old Google Maps on my old WM.
Searched for my local takaway and it couldn't even find it - really frustrating!
Come on MS get your act together!
CD (UK)

I live in NJ and I have no Issues with Bing maps. No doubt Google maps spoiled me, but Bing is good too. I am sure they would improve on these in their next iteration. C'mon guys, you got to know it only gets better from this point. MS has learnt a huge lesson with their Windows Mobile. They realized that if they don't keep up, other OS will walk all over them. With their first iteration of this OS, it's smooth like butter... and Everything works as its suppose to. Now they would start refining stuff...

I Agree!

alabij said:
I decided to take the GPS and maps on my HD7 WP7 for a spin today. I'm usually more articulate with my words. I feel I'm well versed in grammar but the only word I had for the shock of maps was garbage.
I really miss google maps and Bing mobile or even my co-pilot. Talk about a limited app in functionality and value.
I couldn't tell for the most part whether my phone was connected via GPS or using aGPS. The circle was always pulsating from tiny to the whole screen.
A lot of the missing features have already been noted but I just never realized how useless it was. It just got me craving my HD2.
I really hope Google releases Google maps for WP7 so that MS can wake up.
Other than the maps it seems my GPS location is always off more than a couple feet. Is anyone else experiencing this?
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The indicator showing where you were pulsating from tiny to your exact location to the entire screen was your signal; it has nothing to do with the phone, or the maps.

Paul Nur said:
The indicator showing where you were pulsating from tiny to your exact location to the entire screen was your signal; it has nothing to do with the phone, or the maps.
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I don't know what you mean by it has nothing to do with the phone. The signal is the phone. My point in my OP is that when I stand at a point in an open space it pulsates. Common sense tells me that if the bubble is a dot then its using GPS; if its a big circle the size of the screen it's using AGPS or not enough satellites are locked.
Of all the phones I've had if I stand in an open space and I'm stagnant and aquire a GPS signal I'm locked. my devices will never loose the satellites or switch to AGPS. My HD7 seems to do that.
The quality of the hardware and the algorithm the OS or the chips use determines the quality of the signal other than the obvious being my physical location.

It might be a software issue though. It is version 1.0...
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alabij said:
I don't know what you mean by it has nothing to do with the phone. The signal is the phone. My point in my OP is that when I stand at a point in an open space it pulsates. Common sense tells me that if the bubble is a dot then its using GPS; if its a big circle the size of the screen it's using AGPS or not enough satellites are locked.
Of all the phones I've had if I stand in an open space and I'm stagnant and aquire a GPS signal I'm locked. my devices will never loose the satellites or switch to AGPS. My HD7 seems to do that.
The quality of the hardware and the algorithm the OS or the chips use determines the quality of the signal other than the obvious being my physical location.
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I can't wait for the first update. It will be a good judgment of how future updates will look and how much power MS is putting into this new product.
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Hi,
Anyone has problem with Maps like mine? My Maps app only has 2 icons: "Me" and "Search". I don't have the "Direction" icon, so I can't search for direction, and the "Search" function doesn't work as well When I click search, it returns me to the Bing Search, not Maps search.

arthoang said:
Hi,
Anyone has problem with Maps like mine? My Maps app only has 2 icons: "Me" and "Search". I don't have the "Direction" icon, so I can't search for direction, and the "Search" function doesn't work as well When I click search, it returns me to the Bing Search, not Maps search.
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haven't run across that.

I'm in the UK and I too have not been impressed with Bing Maps. It's fine if you are ona main road but I had to go to a side street of Brick Lane last week and not many of the streetnames were showing up on the map. The streets were there, just no names.
Bing and Google Navigator on WM did not support trun by turn Navigation in the UK, I hope this improves under WP7.
Come on Tomtom, Garmin Co-Pilot, pull your fingers out!!!!

arthoang said:
Hi,
Anyone has problem with Maps like mine? My Maps app only has 2 icons: "Me" and "Search". I don't have the "Direction" icon, so I can't search for direction, and the "Search" function doesn't work as well When I click search, it returns me to the Bing Search, not Maps search.
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Same with me. My biggest complaint so far is the search feature. I typed in "KFC" as in Kentuck Fried Chicken and it said "No Results" lol. Really??
And tried a local store and in showed me results in another part of the country.
I can be patient for the update but still prefer google maps.

Got the same issue and no clue about how solve it. If you find one could you msg me?
Btw I tried to reset the phone and NOK

Oh and I forgot how much I hate how when typing a location it doesn't start auto-suggesting like Google Maps does. Instead it forces you to type what your searching for letter by letter 100% correctly. And you better hope you do otherwise you're like me I spelled the street name "Britiania Rd" with 2 t's like "Brittania Rd" and ended up 150 miles away from what I was actually looking for. And it didn't even give me the choice to choose between the two!!!

Not sure how everybody else feels... I don't see a need to cry about everything, but I'm ASSUMING that since MS put out such a cool version of Bing Maps for the iTurd that they will do the same if not better for their own OS.
But at the same time I'm hoping for a Google hook-up too. I'd like to see a Google Hub where you can add the G-services you use... Maps, Gmail, Calendar, voice, Picasa, etc. Being able to access my "places" on GMaps would be kinda handy... but then again I have it saved on Bing too, so yeah... c'mon MS.

Updated google maps, fixed my navigation problems !!

Using the sharegps / bluetooth gps apps my maps would always work.. sadly navigation despite showing me moving on the map always said waiting for gps, and never "navigated" me.. Just updated to the new google map update and it's working great !!
Now for the bad news.. the 2 finger slide to tilt function, doesn't work.. i also don't see the options for map caching, which i guess could be because the tablet doesn't have a data connection (apart from wifi)

I thought offline maps were part of Maps 5.0. Strange the multitouch doesn't work.

Yeah, I came here to see if anyone else was having the multi-touch issue like I was. And I have no idea where the offline content option is either.
I updated Maps on my Droid 2 as well, and it works there. I did notice that it mentioned the 2-finger tilt in the "What's new" box, where the GTab's didn't have a mention of it at all. Both mentioned the offline content.

well, my guess is that it does do the offline caching, however when i hit menu>more> there is no setting for caching..
the only option to change on my droid is "prefetch on mobile" and "clear map tile cache"
seeing how the tablet doesn't have mobile, i guess i really don't need the option.. and the cache can be cleared using the system application settings anyway
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so who wants to be the first one to titanium backup from one to the other ?

KnightCrusader said:
Yeah, I came here to see if anyone else was having the multi-touch issue like I was. And I have no idea where the offline content option is either.
I updated Maps on my Droid 2 as well, and it works there. I did notice that it mentioned the 2-finger tilt in the "What's new" box, where the GTab's didn't have a mention of it at all. Both mentioned the offline content.
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Hmmmm... one possibility is Android Market is serving up different versions of Maps to devices they think are multitouch capable versus not multitouch capable based on the market fingerprint from build.prop.
Regardless though, the G Tablet does *not* seem to support "true multitouch" beyond two finger presses. I've even re-calibrated my touchscreen, and Multitouch Visualizer won't recognize more than two simultaneous finger touches. So I'm not sure these features would work anyway.

i hate to point this out, but uh... two fingers are multi. My droid is the same way, 2 fingers only.. wow that sounded, nevermind ..

well, i tbu'ed from my droid to the gtab, got a bag full of f-u .. grr..

googlemaps runs like a dream on my droid x shame we dont have it working quite yet for tablet