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A few days ago I updated to JF's 1.5. I installed the radio update first, wiped, installed 1.5, wiped again (sounds gross I know), and now I'm ready to roll. Overall it's VERY snappy, VERY stable, and I'm highly pleased with it's feature set. However, there are a few lingering questions.
Feel free to add your own to this list-- this post is intended to be a campfire discussion about Cupcake (of sorts). As always, if I posted in the wrong place...mods do your thing.
What I do like:
-The improved integration across the apps (messaging, Gtalk, Dialer, etc). I like that when you're signed into Gtalk, you can see which of your contacts are signed in as well from the contact list, the messaging app....this is very handy. Also the menu's have been cleaned up VERY well, and it's just generally more pleasing to navigate. It feels way less clunky than RC33.
Good job Google.
-The Browser. I'm noticing a big speed increase over the last version of Chrome-lite.
Not much else to say, I just felt like that should be mentioned.
-Bluetooth pairing. I noticed that when I paired my BT headset, I didn't have to enter a key this time.
Very nice.
-Live folders kick ass. I see a lot of potential here.
-Overall speed of Cupcake, the transitions and so forth. The menus flow nicely from one screen to the next, and the new transitions add to the whizbang factor that Android will need to gain more mainstream appeal. Enabling 'Fancy transitions' in Spare Parts is good for wowing your friends too.
Show em...then ask them if their iPhone can do that
Now onto the gripes:
-What happened to the Undelivered messages functions in SMS? Meaning, if a message fails to send, while we do get a prompt saying so, we dont have a way to resend the message (past retyping it). I don't know if it will attempt to resend after a certain period of time on it's own, but I don't think so. I've let undelivered messages sit for hours...and they never resend.
-No auto rotate on the home screen. I don't know if this is something JF chose to leave out of his build, or if this is just the way Cupcake is...but that seems kinda weird from a usability standpoint. If I'm using an app in landscape mode, and hit the home button...why would I want it to rotate back to portrait?
...Just to open the app again, and have it rotate back to landscape?
-I'll wait before T-Mo releases the RC version of Cupcake before submitting this as a feature request but I noticed that all phone numbers, addresses & such in the browser are not clickable. Meaning if a run a search for a business...and the phone number shows in the results field, I can't always click on it to dial. This was the one thing I always loved about the Blackberry browser (though Chrome kicks it's ass in every other regard).
...Your thoughts?
just to say i have not had the issue with clicking on phonenumbers on webapages.
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just to say i have not had the issue with clicking on phonenumbers on webapages.
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i have and its even more frustrating with phone numbers in emails. maybe its set to pick up US number formats and not UK. i'm not sure.
thefunkygibbon said:
i have and its even more frustrating with phone numbers in emails. maybe its set to pick up US number formats and not UK. i'm not sure.
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Let me see if I can explain this properly...
I run a google search for say, "Pizza Hut Baltimore." In the list of results, I can click the phone number to dial for the top result only. If one of the results further down has a number in the description field, I cannot click it. Nor the address for that matter. Now if I click the link of the result, and go to the page...I can then click the number, address etc.
To me personally this is not a HUGE deal. In fact I considered it as normal since I noticed that same thing in RC33.
Overall, it's what i wanted. I will say that having the home screen autorotate might be a bit of a battery drain. It seemed to when i had it running on rooted rc33. Whenever i turned it off there was a noticeable improvement in battery life. I'm just saying.
The home screen didn't auto-rotate in the adp 1.5 build either. That's just how it is.
Messages not being sent:
Long click the message that didn't send, press edit, then send again.
No 'Home' button in the browser now. I've been clicking space + menu for awhile now but not having it makes one handed navigation slightly more difficult.
For SMS that are unsent, it will show an envelope with an exclamaition point to the right of it correct? Well what you can do it tap on that icon and it will put it back into the text field. that way you can just tap send again without retyping it.
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No 'Home' button in the browser now. I've been clicking space + menu for awhile now but not having it makes one handed navigation slightly more difficult.
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That's a HUGE gripe of mine as well.
I wish there was an easy html or xml file that we could edit and change every one of those buttons. The GO button is a waste of space too since you basically can just type any url and hit enter and there you go. That GO could nicely be replaced with HOME.
Just to update this thread:
-Several apps I have installed show as no updates being available (in the Market). As a workaround, I have to select the app, then click 'View more applications' and then the update shows. Very annoying...
-WiFi perfomance is very flaky. I routinely have to toggle it on/off a few times before it picks up an IP. This happens at multiple locations, across different brand routers, so it has to be the phone.
I do not have anything special going on aside from running JF's v1.51. No apps2sd, themes...none of that, and I did wipe before and after installing the update.
....but I think the majority of these problems are cause by the recent radio update. If you search around...the issues are well documented.
I'm considering a N1 but from what I heard from reviews, it doesn't support multi-touch out of the box (stock)
What are the necessary things to do to enable multi-touch?
Supports pinch to zoom and other similar gestures, not multi-touch. Yes, it is out of the box.
it DOES support multi touch out of the box. just search. pinch to zoom, web browser, pictures, etc all works just perfect. it just cant do 3 points or more.
Alright...so two-finger gestures are available out of the box
How above pinch and pan in Google maps? Or just pinch to zoom is supported?
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Alright...so two-finger gestures are available out of the box
How above pinch and pan in Google maps? Or just pinch to zoom is supported?
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yes pinch to zoom works flawlessly in all apps, google maps, gallery pics, web browser.
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yes pinch to zoom works flawlessly in all apps, google maps, gallery pics, web browser.
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RogerPodacter said:
yes pinch to zoom works flawlessly in all apps, google maps, gallery pics, web browser.
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Flawlessly is a stretch, but yes it works for basic tasks.
Yeah, the implementation in google maps is sub-par. it always scales from the center of the screen not the median pinch point. This is much more obvious in Froyo due to the nice fade between map zoom levels (finally!) The browser implementation is good though.
SilentMobius said:
Yeah, the implementation in google maps is sub-par. it always scales from the center of the screen not the median pinch point. This is much more obvious in Froyo due to the nice fade between map zoom levels (finally!) The browser implementation is good though.
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can you explain this more? i'm not sure i understand.
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can you explain this more? i'm not sure i understand.
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The action of pinch to zoom creates a "center point". Move close to the center point and it zooms out, move further away and it zooms in.
Up until recently the coding for pinch to zoom always put the center point in the center of the screen, regardless of where your started the pinch action.
This creates a little bit of a mental disjoin. The latest coded for mutli touch in android addresses it and puts the center point in between the two input points.
Flawlessly is a stretch, but yes it works for basic tasks.
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Agreed. Sometimes it does work flawlessly, other times not so much...
JCopernicus said:
The action of pinch to zoom creates a "center point". Move close to the center point and it zooms out, move further away and it zooms in.
Up until recently the coding for pinch to zoom always put the center point in the center of the screen, regardless of where your started the pinch action.
This creates a little bit of a mental disjoin. The latest coded for mutli touch in android addresses it and puts the center point in between the two input points.
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In Froyo the center-point is between your fingers and not in the middle of the screen and it feels much more natural. In addition the "Pinch-to-pan" API has been added to the 2.2 SDK which allows the iPad-like maps natigation that I think the OP is referring to. I would be surprised if that wasn't in maps for the official Froyo drop.
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I'm considering a N1 but from what I heard from reviews, it doesn't support multi-touch out of the box (stock)
What are the necessary things to do to enable multi-touch?
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You won't tell the difference.
People just like to complain a lot. I'm playing several games from Gameloft which have joystick/buttons on the same axis on the screen, and it works 100%.
Pinch to zoom is not on the same axes (usually), so it's irrelevant.
Don't even worry about it.
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In Froyo the center-point is between your fingers and not in the middle of the screen and it feels much more natural. In addition the "Pinch-to-pan" API has been added to the 2.2 SDK which allows the iPad-like maps natigation that I think the OP is referring to. I would be surprised if that wasn't in maps for the official Froyo drop.
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Ah okay, missed the panning part.
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In Froyo the center-point is between your fingers and not in the middle of the screen and it feels much more natural. In addition the "Pinch-to-pan" API has been added to the 2.2 SDK which allows the iPad-like maps natigation that I think the OP is referring to. I would be surprised if that wasn't in maps for the official Froyo drop.
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Not quite right. The currently available froyo build does scale the current map image based on the center of your pinch point _but_ as soon as you release it "re-applies" the zoom you just requested as if you was performed at the center of the screen. Though this may be a side effect of having no pan-while-pinch in maps.
Though I agree that it may be corrected for the official Froyo release
Pinch to zoom and pan is implemented in the gallery in froyo. But that's the only place. Its not great, no where near as on the iPhone.
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Pinch to zoom and pan is implemented in the gallery in froyo. But that's the only place. Its not great, no where near as on the iPhone.
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Agree. And that's the one and only one reason I'm also considering iPhone4
Hi guys - sorry to hijack this thread slightly
I've just got a HTC Desire which I'm really happy with but the inability to zoom in properly in google maps is really doing my head in
I'd made a post to the official google help forum for maps but haven't got a response.
From your posts can does this mean this is an underlying deficiency within Android, rather than the Maps app?
The current behaviour is that during the action of zoom, the screen does correctly pan to the centre point of my pinch action (which would suggest to me it is capable of following where I want to be) However, as soon as you take your fingers off the map re-draws based on the original centre point. It makes maps practically unusable as you constantly have to re-centre the screen, and unless you're absolutely spot on anything but a gradual zoom throws you completely off where you thought you were. In fact it would be better if it didn't follow your finger point at all and simply zoomed in to the centre like the buttons do - at least you'd be able to follow it.
Obviously there's nothing I can do about it but I just wanted to clarify if this is something that might get fixed in another maps build or an underlying deficiency in the Android hardware or APIs. (I've got another 8 days in which I can take the phone back)
Seems that you're all taking about 2.2 builds having this behaviour but as a stock HTC Desire user I'm on 2.1 and have the same experience so it doesn't seem like any improvement from the new android
Thanks
Lee
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Hi guys - sorry to hijack this thread slightly
I've just got a HTC Desire which I'm really happy with but the inability to zoom in properly in google maps is really doing my head in
I'd made a post to the official google help forum for maps but haven't got a response.
From your posts can does this mean this is an underlying deficiency within Android, rather than the Maps app?
The current behaviour is that during the action of zoom, the screen does correctly pan to the centre point of my pinch action (which would suggest to me it is capable of following where I want to be) However, as soon as you take your fingers off the map re-draws based on the original centre point. It makes maps practically unusable as you constantly have to re-centre the screen, and unless you're absolutely spot on anything but a gradual zoom throws you completely off where you thought you were. In fact it would be better if it didn't follow your finger point at all and simply zoomed in to the centre like the buttons do - at least you'd be able to follow it.
Obviously there's nothing I can do about it but I just wanted to clarify if this is something that might get fixed in another maps build or an underlying deficiency in the Android hardware or APIs. (I've got another 8 days in which I can take the phone back)
Seems that you're all taking about 2.2 builds having this behaviour but as a stock HTC Desire user I'm on 2.1 and have the same experience so it doesn't seem like any improvement from the new android
Thanks
Lee
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im on stock froyo frf91 and youre right on point about pinch in google maps, its unbearable. Especially compared to the stupid f*****g iphone. Its a google os yet its maps app works horrible compared to google maps on the iphone. If you pinch less than half way, it just bounces back out to where you started, hysterically cheap. And everytime i pinch further it just keeps zooming to a different point, then of course it has to load a new image. If you notice, it never stays at the zoom level its on when you remove your fingers, it changes a lot. Its really bad ive complained before but i thought i was the only one.
I guess with just a couple people noticing how bad it is we shouldnt be holding our breath for improvement. But yeah its pretty surprising after using the iphone, you'd certainly think google would be more interested in making google maps a really smooth, solid, reliable application since its one of the most popular if not the most popular application. My iphone-owning friend used it the other day during a trip and completely gave up and we used his old ass iphone 3g it was drastically more smooth and enjoyable than my superphone
Back on original topic - N1 has dual-touch, not true multi-touch. This is pretty much irrelevant except for a few key points:
1) Palm rejection is not as good (you have to be a bit careful how you hold the device or it will use your palm as an input)
2) You can't use more than two fingers
3) "Axis snapping" - coordinates are reported separately as 2 X's and 2 Y's. Since there is ALWAYS a delay between the first and second finger press - even if it's only a few milliseconds - the phone can simply "pair" the coordinates on touch. However, if you cross the X or Y axis of the other input, you have a 50% chance of the phone mixing them up.
I've never run into problems 2 or 3, personally, and I DO game quite a bit on my phone. 1 is a simple adjustment issue, and the way you need to hold it comes naturally after a couple of weeks of use.
I don't think there is an existing thread on the subject, and I just came across a fantastic tablet-optimized replacement for the native email client. Moxier Mail is far prettier than the native client, has support for Exchange TASK synchronization, allows you to flag items complete (not just "star" or "unstar" them), access your mail folders via their actual tree structure, and turn on synchronization for any number of folders (not just your inbox).
Unfortunately, its widgets are neither re-sizable nor terribly attractive (IMO), but I think that is a small price to pay for the other functionality it adds.
Definitely a good looking app. I am going to give it a try. One big feature I am looking for is the ability to actually turn off the account temporarily. For example, if I setup my work/corp email on there, and I go on vacation, I don't want my xoom beeping all day lol.
But definitely nice find. Thanks!
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Definitely a good looking app. I am going to give it a try. One big feature I am looking for is the ability to actually turn off the account temporarily. For example, if I setup my work/corp email on there, and I go on vacation, I don't want my xoom beeping all day lol.
But definitely nice find. Thanks!
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There's actually a toggle switch in the app (looks like a light switch) that flips auto-synchronization on and off. It's in the bottom-right corner of the main dashboard screen.
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There's actually a toggle switch in the app (looks like a light switch) that flips auto-synchronization on and off. It's in the bottom-right corner of the main dashboard screen.
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Double thumbs up ;D
Just installed it, going to give it a go. I also just noticed that it works for Phones as well. I am going to give it a shot on my EVO. (Not a fan of Touchdown). So this could be a nice alternative.
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Double thumbs up ;D
Just installed it, going to give it a go. I also just noticed that it works for Phones as well. I am going to give it a shot on my EVO. (Not a fan of Touchdown). So this could be a nice alternative.
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I actually use Enhanced Email on my phone. It is a slightly tweaked version of the native client that gives me most of the above features in a clean and simple interface. (Touchdown is just SO ugly.) Let me know how Moxier looks... I might switch if it transitions well from the tablet to the phone.
Thanks. I will try this out.
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I actually use Enhanced Email on my phone. It is a slightly tweaked version of the native client that gives me most of the above features in a clean and simple interface. (Touchdown is just SO ugly.) Let me know how Moxier looks... I might switch if it transitions well from the tablet to the phone.
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I use EE too. Mostly because the server security protocols / device admin rights can be tweaked by user. The remote wipe security option is optional on EE. Trying Moxier today and the interface is pretty cool and it seems to avoid defaulting Exchange admin rights to wipe device. Anyone with knowledge or skills about this able to confirm this?
Fyi: Decent widgets.
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It's a bloody beautiful app, no two ways about it. Highly recommended. Tried everything, ended up buying this one. For tasks support mostly. Veruy polished and stable. Can turn emails to tasks and calendar. Nice widgets.
I almost purchased Moxier Mail Tablet version until I discovered that there's an issue with attachments download in the current version. Link to the support thread for this issue below :
http://support.moxier.com/entries/20186321
I noticed there is no RSA security support. Is there any word if support is coming? My wife's work is predominantly email based, and she would love this for work, but they're RSA secured.
I've got another one for you guys- Kaiten Mail - It's like K9 reall but slightly adapted and works brilliantly with gmail-type interface
Moxier (tablet) downloads attachments without any problem for me, from Hotmail to 1 device and Exchange to another. Does it nicely also, since the interface is pretty intuitive.
Confirmed...no issues downloading, opening/reading, and sending attachments with Exchange.
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Can someone tell me how it works with folders for exchange account.
I have loads of folders for server side automatic rules and moving. My problem is I have a few sub sub folders with the same name. The every all so far has issues with this. The I want to see how many unread emails per folder rather than just unread.
Also there seems to be a couple of versions which one is the best?
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Hey, Just picked mine up today, been holding off on the Inspire cause I was waiting for the "holiday."
New to android, from WM 6.5.
Just wondering what are must have Apps?
I noticed some people have battery percentage % numbers in the upper left corner, like the battery clock app for WM, anyone know if that's an App, if so what it is?
Thanks
This'll get you started
Adfree
AirPush Detector
Alarm Clock Plus
Android System Info
Appbrain App Market
ArchiDroid (unzips and extracts file formats)
BetterBatteryStats (provides information on wakelocks)
Calendar in Status Bar (provides day of the week and date)
Call Confirm (requires an extra confirmation before calling someone, preventing accidental calls)
Call End Tone (vibrate and/or tone on the end of calls so you'll never hold your ear to the phone if someone inadvertently hangs up.
CPU Spy (gives percentages that your device spends in each CPU frequency and deep sleep)
Desktop Visualizer (provides a lot of customization options through creating custom widgets and icons)
Disk Usage (shows you where memory is being used)
Download All Files
Dropbox (cloud storage)
Elixir (multipurpose)
File Manager
Folder Organizer
Free App of the Day Notifier (for the Amazon Appstore)
Google Voice (visual voicemail)
Home Manager
IntoNow (like Shazam, for TV shows - it's amazing, try it out)
MediaConverter
Miren Browser
Movies (by flixster)
MyAppSharer
Next Alarm (widget that shows the next alarm if one is set)
Opera Mobile
Pandora
Phonalyzr (provides cool stats on who/when you call and text the most)
Poynt
QuickPic (gallery application - I think it's better than any stock gallery)
RealSilent (allows you to mute media volume when your phone goes into silent)
Ringdroid (create custom ringtones)
Root Explorer (file manager for root users)
ScoreMobile (sports scores)
Shazam
Signal Sense (turns airplane mode on if there is no signal, then back on to search for a signal after a defined set of time)
Slk Notifications for Facebook
Smart Keyboard Pro
Smart Taskbar
Status Note
Tasker (does everything lol)
Titanium Backup
TV Listings
Watchdog (task manager)
Where's My Droid Power
Widgetlocker
Awesome!!!
Never Expected a reply so fast!
Thanks!!! (added)
Just curious how old this list is
I'd never heard of Slik Notifications for Facebook and cannot find it in the market.
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Just curious how old this list is
I'd never heard of Slik Notifications for Facebook and cannot find it in the market.
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Not old at all actually. The day I created it, I went through my installed applications and hand picked them. It was called something else and they changed the name only very recently.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lukekorth.facebookNotifications
Edit: Also just realized there was a typo in my original post. It's fixed now.
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that app never worked fine for me... I use another app called "MB Notifications for FB (Free)" (had a different name before but was suspended by Facebook for a while and had to change name)
market.android.com/details?id=org.mikebannion.fbnotificationsFree
I'm thinking of buying the pro version since the app is quite cool
Just bought a stylus. Was hoping it'd work on the vivid! If so, are there any note taking apps that are really nice? Thanks!
I use evernote with skitch, but there are more 'notebook' style apps out there that I'm only vaguely familiar with. Anyone else have suggestions? Also, which stylus did you get? I was thinking about getting one for use with my nook and vivid.
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Just bought a stylus. Was hoping it'd work on the vivid! If so, are there any note taking apps that are really nice? Thanks!
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Does stylus work on Vivid ? Can you confirm please ..
Thanks
Any stylus should work, it's a matter of how well it works. without the custom software like the htc flyer and with the big footprint of most stylii, notes seem to take up way too much real estate on my phone, but acceptable on tablet. Personal preference though.
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Any stylus should work, it's a matter of how well it works.
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Not true. Has to t least be capacitive.
Oh. I sorta took the capacitive to be a given. Probably shouldn't have though...
There was one I liked but I can't think of the name right now. Will post it when it comes to me though. Acase seems decent but they all look like bit of a rip off to me. Could just buy capacitive foam, wire, and make your own. Tons of videos out there on how-to.
I'm wondering if the HTC one will work with our phone, the one used on the Flyer and Jetstream.
That would be awesome. Even more if we could get the app that lets us pen notes while recording and then link them to our calender, like with the tablets.
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Hi,
I just have a general question about the on screen display of the HTC one. I'm using HTC ROM 4.2.2; not rooted (I do not plan to root in near future since this device is brand new...)
I know this device is 4.7" with 1080p resolution, but currently the on screen display bugs me a little.
As pictures are better than words in most cases I've made screenshots of three different devices.
I know that's 7" to 4.7" to 3.7" , but somehow I can't understand why I am seeing on my 1080p HTC One almost as less as on my HTC Desire Z!? I excepted at least a viewport similar to the the Nexus 7.
On the other hand, if I view websites I'm almost on par with my Nexus 7; yes I have to zoom in a little to read those medium/tiny letters, but that's given...
Well, to make long things short: is there a (hidden) option somewhere deep in the maze of menus which adjusts me (at least) the mail app?! I've tried to change all "font size" settings I've found but with no actual success.
Btw. I'd like to keep the stock email app... since I don't need more functions or stupid ad-banners when using 3rd party mail apps.
Thank you!
Kind regards,
Ok, just found out that this seems to be a HTC bug... though, gmail app renders the same html mail as expected (say:complete without scrollbars, but still readable in terms of font size )... So I thought to seek and install the stock email.apk since this was doing good on the N7... partly a success...the mail is at least readable in landscape view (just scrolling vertically..), in portrait mode it is a bit smaller than in the HTC mail app (still no satisfying font size)... I conclude that there must be a global setting somewhere... which affects the email apps html renderer....
(just talking to myself )