[Q]How a 1660mAh battery would increase battery life? - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was looking for a cheap spare battery for my Captivate and I found this one.
I was just wondering if I would get a significant battery life improvement since the standard battery is 1500mAh.
Thanks in advance for your answers!

mathematically you would get about 10% more run time. Not much else information.

what he said.
say your 1500 mah gets you say, 15 hours, 100% to 0% during "normal usage" rate
if you get a 1600 mah, with the same "normal usage" rate, you'd only get 16 hours.
mah = milliamp/hour
[stock battery] / [hours used] = [new battery] / [hours used] = [ma]/[hours]
[1500 ma] / [15hours] = [1600 ma] / [(x) hours]
x= 16 hours.

if you want real improvement, get a 3200 mah, that should more than double it; although i'm not sure if that battery size is the "DOUBLE WIDE" one that needs a new battery cover.

waikuk said:
although i'm not sure if that battery size is the "DOUBLE WIDE" one that needs a new battery cover.
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It is considerably thicker.

waikuk said:
what he said.
say your 1500 mah gets you say, 15 hours, 100% to 0% during "normal usage" rate
if you get a 1600 mah, with the same "normal usage" rate, you'd only get 16 hours.
mah = milliamp/hour
[stock battery] / [hours used] = [new battery] / [hours used] = [ma]/[hours]
[1500 ma] / [15hours] = [1600 ma] / [(x) hours]
x= 16 hours.
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So I better get another 1550mAh for less than 10$ and swap batteries when the first is dead... I don't want to pay that much for a bad looking 3200mAh battery...
Thanks for your answers guys, I appriciate!

Just don't keep the spare battery loose in your pocket with anything that's conductive like coins or keys. LiPo batteries can catch fire if short circuited.

Thanks for the advice!
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well the math above is not accurate. i mean the assumtion is too simple. and the rated mah is probably even less accurate. 1500mah is a rating measured with certain test criteria. say maximum charge or a specific voltage drained down to another specific voltage regarded as zero. also the battery never actually reaches zero in the phone. the battery meter scales batery use to the minimum voltage that the phone can safely operate determined by the manufacturer and is likely a different value than the minimum used to rate the battery mah. testing standards may differ from battery manufacturers as well. all in all a 1600 mah battery may have negligable effect or it might increase battery life by 20%+ especially if the voltage considered 0% by the phone is significantly higher than the voltage used to rate the battery.
the extended double thick bateries unless specifically designed for the captivate will not work without modification to the phone. it is the simple fact that the lock slider to the battery door wont close unless there is a cutaway in the battery to clear it. the i9000 and vibrant batteries wouldnt allow you to close the lock slider so it's not as simple as making a battery door. this is why we dont have a battery door available. the easiest way is to leave the lock open and create a molded slip cover that wraps around most of the phone as a batery door but this will increse the length of the phone and leave the slider vulnerable to impact if dropped. other options include permanently modifying the slider or dissembling the phone and removing the slider. most consumers are not about to take a screwdriver or blade to there phone so thats out as a comercial option unless it is a service offered at cell phone/accessory stores. but for the diyer the phone is easy to take apart, traditional philips screws are used and the plastic is not fragile, the slider can be extended further to expose the hidden screws if you use your fingers to pull upward on it as if to just rip it off, it will flex and you might fear breaking it but it is tough, once it is bent up in the middle 2mm or so it can be slid down enough to expose the last two screws. it can then be slid back into place with no damage. once the back of the phone is separated from the screen assembly the slider can be slid right out. i think this type of mod could work if someone fabricated the new door and lock but it would be hard to sell.
i am a machinist and could produce something if requested but i feel like its not the kind of thing that would make money. too few have this phone and want an extended battery. and i feel like id have to do a large number of the installs as well. how many people are willing to send an expensive phone in the mail to some dude that has a mill in his basement to have a mod done while they wait phoneless in the mean time? just not realistic.

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extended battery 2400 maH on ebay.com

saw it today morning on ebay, price about 18 usd w/o shipping costs (about 2 usd). i think to order that one, coz original htc 2300 mah still not available to ship and mugen 2600 mah is more expensive (64 usd w/o shipping costs).
http://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-for-HTC...emQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a59006150
Thanks for sharing.
Nearly got the 1600 mAh. think i will switch my eye on this. and yeah 18 usd compare to mugen is cheap!
.hide said:
Thanks for sharing.
Nearly got the 1600 mAh. think i will switch my eye on this. and yeah 18 usd compare to mugen is cheap!
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so do i.
awaiting for an 1600 mah one and decided to got 2400 mah.
Now the question is, is it really 2400mAh as it claims to be?
1600mAh Andida (from china) performs close to the OEM, but not more.
rickyoon.vegas said:
Now the question is, is it really 2400mAh as it claims to be?
1600mAh Andida (from china) performs close to the OEM, but not more.
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time will tell =)
Interesting at that price, please let us know how you get on.
Looks tempting, but wonder how much thicker it is...
coolfire said:
Looks tempting, but wonder how much thicker it is...
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i think leo with this battery is about 17mm (with stock battery - 11mm).
the phone would get so bulky that it's scary
Anyway, considering they are including a 2400mAh battery and a custom back metal cover (admitting it's metal and not some kind of plastic) for 20USD total, I'd love to see a proportionally priced spare vanilla metal back cover, which would be less than half, everything considered. Alas, all metal back covers I've seen are way more expensive than that.
so yay or nay? bulk isn't going to be too much of an issue. I wouldn't mind swapping depending on what I needed... be even better to have a dock that will charge the hd2 with the extended battery on, and have the original "spare" charging on the back.
Cover looks like plastic to me.
yeahh..... I ordered the 1600 mAh lol no need for that big ass cover and it only cost me $10 so.... yeh
death1246 said:
yeahh..... I ordered the 1600 mAh lol no need for that big ass cover and it only cost me $10 so.... yeh
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this 1600 mah battery shows the same rusults just as stock 1250 mah.
pm007 said:
this 1600 mah battery shows the same rusults just as stock 1250 mah.
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Yup, it's true.. I now have 3 batteries (1500, 1600 and original) and they're all basically the same. Dirt cheap replacements though which is good on it's own
Just hate the thick back of the extended version, the thin-ness of the HD2 makes it pocketable regardless the size. Wonder if that still will be the case with the extended battery.
dagrim1 said:
Yup, it's true.. I now have 3 batteries (1500, 1600 and original) and they're all basically the same. Dirt cheap replacements though which is good on it's own
Just hate the thick back of the extended version, the thin-ness of the HD2 makes it pocketable regardless the size. Wonder if that still will be the case with the extended battery.
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Couldn't agree more with you, dude!
The trouble with all these extended batts are that they make our Leos look FAT on their centre.... kinda like having beer bellies!
big belly?
Well, i'd rather have hard working phone with big belly, than skinny 1 pulling trailer with extra power? lmao, I don't mind little extra depth, it will still go in pocket fine 5mm, or 10mm? lol, won't keep it out of my pocket. Just concerned about new case? I use Imagnum,flip style!! OH OH?
coolfire said:
Couldn't agree more with you, dude!
The trouble with all these extended batts are that they make our Leos look FAT on their centre.... kinda like having beer bellies!
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Not beerbelly.
Hunchback, more like.
I just bought the ebay 2400mah with plastic cover and it doesnt seem to be double the original. 31% at the end of a day of light/moderate usage. the cheap price makes it no loss, but I really dont think it is a true 2400. i'll compare some more though...
AdvantageGuy said:
I just bought the ebay 2400mah with plastic cover and it doesnt seem to be double the original. 31% at the end of a day of light/moderate usage. the cheap price makes it no loss, but I really dont think it is a true 2400. i'll compare some more though...
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I also bought Cameron Sino 2400mAH HD2 extended battery from ebay. Actually the capacity is almost double the standard 1300mAH battery but there is a trick! After the battery goes flat and auto off you need to take out the battery for a while and fix it back. Restart, then the battery meter will display 50% battery level and it can continue for normal 50% usage!!
I am still puzzling why this thing happen and hope anybody have solution to this. Thanks!
Seem this issue still don't have any solution. No choice! I try to get help from Cameron Sino (manufacturer for HD2 2400mAH extended battery) to see whether they have solution on this issue. Below the write up:
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Dear Sir,
I am recently purchased a Cameron Sino HD2 2400mAH extended battery from eBay. The battery is well build and the cover also well fitted onto my HD2. The problem I face is the battery is having compatibility issue that I need to do extra step to utilize full power of the Cameron Sino extended battery. Below the issue:
•The battery can be full charge and the HD2 is showing 100% battery level after full charge.
•To my surprise, the battery power draining rate seem not much different from standard non extended 1300mAH battery that it not justify for the extra thick battery and cover
•When it goes down less than 10% or zero power, I try to switch off the HP, remove the battery from battery bay for a few second then fix back, power on back the phone. The HD2 battery meter now indicate 50% battery power remaining and it can be continue use until goes to zero.
I would say this kind of issue is compatibility issue that it shouldn’t behave this way, It is very troublesome to off-power, remove back cover, remove battery, fix back battery, fix back cover, power on again to gain back another 50% battery power. It should be slowly drain down power (after full charge) with much slower drain down rate and goes completely zero as what normal Li-Ion battery behave.
Pls look into this issue seriously as I already feedback to xda developer forum on this issue that a lot of potential buyer will reluctant to purchase this 2400mAH extended battery because of this issue. I hope you can provide a battery driver solution and I should try to install. I will update to the forum when this issue is fixed, else the issue will remain open and it definitely will discourage people to buy this battery due to this issue.
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Hope Cameron Sino will provide solution to this issue and I should update once I gotten the reply. Stay tune!

Innocell 3500mAh Extended Life Battery

Wow... On Seidio's website up for pre-order shipping 6/25 ... cant post the link
SHIPPING
It's shipping right now
Seidio battery opinion?
Very interested in seeing just how bulky/heavy this battery is and if it provides as much power as they're advertising.
I would NOT trust Seido AT ALL after all the battery lies they have already been caught up in. Search around to see for yourself.
Innocell 3500
The 3500 battery is physically about .030 inches taller than the Verizon 2150. The backing from the 2150 will not work with the new 3500. The new cover comes with the 3500. It is sweet and has good finger protection for the camera lens (preventing normal finger contact with the lens. I got the wall charger, and 2 of these batteries. For the road warrior time it is great. The charger also allows both phone and separate battery to charge simultaneously. The charger also comes with another USB power cord similar to the one shipped with the incredible w/o the wall plug. Great if you have the car lighter adapter that allows you to plug in a USB device and have it run and charge from inside the car while traveling.
I'm using the product pretty heavily and trying to pay attention to the reviews software that drains battery power. I ran for approximately 31 hours the 1st time out before it told me I needed to plug the phone in for a charge. I will try to improve this.
Jexy said:
The 3500 battery is physically about .030 inches taller than the Verizon 2150. The backing from the 2150 will not work with the new 3500. The new cover comes with the 3500. It is sweet and has good finger protection for the camera lens (preventing normal finger contact with the lens. I got the wall charger, and 2 of these batteries. For the road warrior time it is great. The charger also allows both phone and separate battery to charge simultaneously. The charger also comes with another USB power cord similar to the one shipped with the incredible w/o the wall plug. Great if you have the car lighter adapter that allows you to plug in a USB device and have it run and charge from inside the car while traveling.
I'm using the product pretty heavily and trying to pay attention to the reviews software that drains battery power. I ran for approximately 31 hours the 1st time out before it told me I needed to plug the phone in for a charge. I will try to improve this.
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What is the size difference of the 2150 and 3500 cover?
For the battery, did you mean .30, since .03 seems to small for such a big mAh difference?
"Beer", it's what's for dinner.
Reporting power usage 3500 MaH and Dimensions
Just sent back the 2150 yesterday and really we are talking about .030 inches. A very slight difference. I could get 3 of the 4 sides of the back cover for the 2150 to come down on the 3500 but you could see there was some strain. If the difference was .300 that would have been totally impossible. Using a caliper the height of the cover when measured on a flat surface is .591. The mating surface when measured on a flat surface is .168 = .759 total assembled height
3500 Mah thickness .395. I would need someone with a 2150 to measure the thickness of it to complete the comparison.
The phone finally threw up the I need to charge it meaning 15% or less battery remaining according to what it displays. The screen is still showing 2 of the 10 bars at an up time of 60:50:03 and an awake time of 9:55 It is still going as I am typing.
Cell Standby 37%
Phone idle 29%
Android system 23%
Display 7%
Voice Calls 4%
I'm not going to run it until it is 0 but I was wanting to hold out for 1 bar. I guess I've seen what I wanted to see.
3500 Mah performance Awesome!
Completed the testing of the 3500 Mah down to 4% of remaining power Watched 4 full length movies each over 2 hours. People who take long flights Get ready for fun. Phone at 4% remaining = 1 bar of 10 on battery screen.
Uptime 26 hours 45 min.
Awake time 13 hours 18 min Based on this a single battery would allow only 1 battery to be used for an international flight from Chicago to Hong Kong and still have plenty of battery left to get to a charger. The bad part is this Verizon phone will not work in HK or China. Different frequency from what I have been reading.
Cell Standby 23%
Android System 21%
Display 17%
Phone Idle 12%
Bluetooth 11%
Wi-Fi 10%
Mediaserver 4%
Voice Calls 2%
Rating "Best Battery for the HTC Incredible Power User" A+
mind posting up some pics from various angles of the phone w/the 3500 mah battery and battery cover?
I've had it from day 1
I pre-ordered mine and have been running it since 6-24 and I can tell you IMHO, it is everything I had hoped for. I can now get through a day with extensive use and not even wonder or worry about the charge... AND even make it through the next day too if I were to forget to charge at night.
I have push mail, listen to streamed music all day and just generally use my phone a LOT.
The battery is a winner for the DINC, just as it was for my xv6800
http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/bacy35hddn-bk.htm
could you post some personal photos of the phone w/extended cover on? you can't tell much from the pics on their website..

Extended Battery?

I found these going for $30 including back-cover..
1) why are they so cheap?
2) if they are really are 3500 mAh, why isn't it included with by default?
3) if it does have 3500 mah, does it have 2x the capacity?
4) does the back cover have no logo's?
Thanks
do you have a link to the site? or a brand at least?
These usually advertise full capacity and in the fine print they say battery charges up to 80% or so of capacity. Essentially 3600mAh advertised is to be read 2800mAh. So don't expect 2x battery life. And this, given you get a reputable battery not "original" brand for example often seen on ebay for about that price. You'll have to be fine phone looking like a brick too.
Be ready phone not to read the battery properly too. Anything beyond the BF6X will wack the battery gauge.
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This is the one i'm talking about
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-3...770038?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2a14c03ff6
Top-rated seller
Member id hi-etech ( Feedback Score Of 356572)
99.2% Positive feedback
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or this (looks like the original)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-MOTOROL...184513?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43aa225101
BF6X
Just saw this picture.
Nevermind hahaha
Does the official 19xx mAh battery also make the droid 3 thicker?
DoubleYouPee said:
Just saw this picture.
Nevermind hahaha
Does the official 19xx mAh battery also make the droid 3 thicker?
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Yea, definitely go with the 1960 (or is it 1980? Can't remember, but I have it in my phone). It's literally about 0.5mm thicker, and so it comes with a custom battery cover. If you snap on the standard battery cover, it just barely fits (very tight squeeze), but I'd recommend using the case that comes with it (it's literally impossible notice a difference in thickness). The only reason it's slightly bigger even though the battery is barely bigger than the stock one is because the extended battery tends to expand a bit more when hot, so you need just a tiny bit more room.
I get about 30% extra life with the extended 1960 battery in comparison to the stock one.
Hope this helps.
I've bought the 3500 mah battery from ebay. Only ten dollars when I bought it. Battery life will last a bit more than seven hours with the following running (using Steel Droid 3.0 by the way):
Music (playing One Mic by Nas on repeat 320 kbps mp3)
Angry Birds (just sitting on the first level zoomed out as far as possible)
Max Brightness
Maps and navigation (directions to Walmart by foot)
Used battery graph to monitor until battery died
As the person said above me though, the battery reports incorrectly
After the battery meter stayed at one percent after the fifth hour
I know I don't have to worry about my battery life anymore though
Phone hasn't died on me since I've done the above benchmark
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Lyxdeslic said:
Yea, definitely go with the 1960 (or is it 1980? Can't remember, but I have it in my phone). It's literally about 0.5mm thicker, and so it comes with a custom battery cover. If you snap on the standard battery cover, it just barely fits (very tight squeeze), but I'd recommend using the case that comes with it (it's literally impossible notice a difference in thickness). The only reason it's slightly bigger even though the battery is barely bigger than the stock one is because the extended battery tends to expand a bit more when hot, so you need just a tiny bit more room.
I get about 30% extra life with the extended 1960 battery in comparison to the stock one.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks. Does the cutstom cover have the verizon/google logo? Is the cover of the same quality as the standard one?

Extended batteries (3500mah in this case)

Well... so far I've ordered a 3500mah extended battery from Hong Kong.. but as I believe this will take rather a long time to get here... I've ordered another one from the UK as well from ECELL, which apparently has a silver extended cover.
I'm well aware that these are likely cack batteries and I have a plan for that
Basically I'm hoping that whichever one I consider to be the worst will either die on me... or I will simply end it's life prematurely. I am going to cut open the battery (Carefully!) and try to replace the cell's with two Genuine OEM 1500 mah batteries, for a true 3000mah. I bit elaborate but I think it should be possible as long as I cut in the right places.
EDIT: I found genuine LG batteries for about £8.50 each plus about £5 postage, so will order 2 batteries for around £22. They are special order though, so will take 14-28 days. (I am also getting them to confirm the capacity is defo 1500mah, as no point buying them otherwise.)
Update: Images in post #29 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23120430&postcount=29
Well.. I was getting a little impatient... so when I was really tired (and may just a little to drink), I ordered one from ECELL on ebay. It had a silver cover and a 3600mah battery (We all know it isn't that much), and was listed for the 2x P990. Turns up.. it's for the LG Optimus S :-( Bummer. Just trying to get a return/refund.
So... experiment is delayed somewhat.
Update: Two LG OEM batteries have been ordered ; The incorrect extended battery sent back ; Still awaiting the HK Extended battery. Bizarrely I thought I actually ordered a 2nd UK based battery.. but I was so tired I think I forgot to do it lol. Can't wait to have a play with these
Refund form ECELL given without issue Have now received the 3500mah battery, and just running that to see how thing's are with it. I am waiting on the two OEM batteries to turn up from LG before I can start modding this extended battery.
Since I also have a bigger case now, I am going to look to see if I can play around with an external antenna as well.. and maybe fit a bigger antenna inside the expanded case. With that in mind I have ordered two antenna's of different types to see which one fits (expensive.. but then at least we all know )
Sounds really interesting.. keep us updated please!
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Scougar said:
Refund form ECELL given without issue Have now received the 3500mah battery, and just running that to see how thing's are with it. I am waiting on the two OEM batteries to turn up from LG before I can start modding this extended battery.
Since I also have a bigger case now, I am going to look to see if I can play around with an external antenna as well.. and maybe fit a bigger antenna inside the expanded case. With that in mind I have ordered two antenna's of different types to see which one fits (expensive.. but then at least we all know )
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i got the 2400Mah battery(2 days of usage) i'm looking forward for you're results
specially the modded one pictures will also be great if u can.
thanks!
Apparently the LG batteries have been dispatched now, so should get them within a few days. Only annoying thing is that even LG were unable to confirm whether these batteries I'm getting are 1500mah. I will be gutted if they are not lol.
btw.. you should see my desk at present at home. I have about 5 phones, four of them in bits awaiting tinkering, LED bike lights (all modified), circuit boards from laptops everywhere, reparing a 4x 18650 battery pack + routers etc lol. And I just realised that I actually don't know where my soldering iron is ROFL. Must dig one out.
Anyway... I'm looking forward to it and if I can get it working, I'll put up pics etc. I'm very interested in trying to get the temp sensor working (although I realise it may only work for one of the batteries.).
P.s. as for extended cases and covers I bought this w w w.ebay.co.uk/itm/Clear-Black-Trim-Rubber-Case-Cover-LCD-Film-Pro-LG-Optimus-2X-G2X-/180782656771?pt=UK_MobilePhones_MobilePhonesCasesP ouches&hash=item2a177c6d03 and then cut out the back clear part. It's not a perfect fit, but it will work for the moment (Buy at your own risk.. I actually stretched mine too much when getting the clear part out).
Genuine LG batteries have just arrived about 30 seconds ago. They are 1500mah
So with the delivery charge added in they were £11.04 each (£8.49 each without delivery charge). So if you ordered more it would be less due to the one time delivery charge of £5.10. Not bad for a 1500mah genuine battery! Batteries dated 10/09/2011.
Scougar said:
Genuine LG batteries have just arrived about 30 seconds ago. They are 1500mah
So with the delivery charge added in they were £11.04 each (£8.49 each without delivery charge). So if you ordered more it would be less due to the one time delivery charge of £5.10. Not bad for a 1500mah genuine battery! Batteries dated 10/09/2011.
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Sounds good so will u start Modding them now?
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shpapy said:
Sounds good so will u start Modding them now?
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Yes. I've now ordered a second "3500" mah battery so I have a spare cover and shell in case I **** anything up. I am just trying to gauge the capacity of the 3500 battery. On my first run it lastest almost 2 days on stock rom, with a fair amount of use. I would prob say only around 2000mah at a guess though.
I'm just trying to get it to run down again for a 2nd charge now.
Once all that's done, I'll open it up and start tinkering I will have to get both the LG batteries to the same state of charge as well (same voltage level) before hooking them up.)
Bear in mind I've spent £22 on original batteries that I am about to hack open for the cells inside, so there is no going back lol. Pretty expensive mistake if I **** it up relatively speaking.
Scougar said:
Yes. I've now ordered a second "3500" mah battery so I have a spare cover and shell in case I **** anything up. I am just trying to gauge the capacity of the 3500 battery. On my first run it lastest almost 2 days on stock rom, with a fair amount of use. I would prob say only around 2000mah at a guess though.
I'm just trying to get it to run down again for a 2nd charge now.
Once all that's done, I'll open it up and start tinkering I will have to get both the LG batteries to the same state of charge as well (same voltage level) before hooking them up.)
Bear in mind I've spent £22 on original batteries that I am about to hack open for the cells inside, so there is no going back lol. Pretty expensive mistake if I **** it up relatively speaking.
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no doubt it could be an expensive mistake, but if u succeed which i think you will the results will be probably a 4 day battery. so i think its worth it
i got the 2450Mah battery and it holds about 2 days with medium usage, so im really thrilled about ure test as i dont care about the size of the phone,
if you can share pictures it will be great you can also p.m if u want!!
thanks.
Shpapy.
No problem, will do
I charged the battery again last night, and rapid drained it running bluetooth (nothing connected), some GPS usage and wifi with smartshare running a video across from my NAS drive. In the morning it was down to about 25 percent so tried GPS on cycle to work and then drained it with music and GPS until 1%. Charged it without using it, and it's reporting about 1900mah estimated for the battery. I don't rate the estimator as highly accurate btw, but it's a guide .
I will try to take the battery apart tonight if I can. Not sure on best way to open it though, as I will need to reuse the carcass.
Damn.. was taking it apart and fried the circuit it came with. Unfortunately the metal legs that bring power from either side slipped off and touch the outer shell of the battery, was enough for a small yellow spark :-( oh well. (EDIT: Hmm.. circuit may still be alive actually...)
It's two batteries pressed together with several layers of thin plastic between them, either for insulation, spacing or both. I'm actually pretty surprised the cells weren't isolated better from each other.
Update 1: Well, for the first time.. I just managed to burn myself with electricity opps. These packs are really badly isolated. Shorted it on the tip of my finger... beginning to hurt lol. There are NO ratings on these batteries whatsoever. However, one thing they are is... amazingly well balanced. Just measured them and they are both exactly 3.78V's.
Update 2: The circuit and LG Battery will NOT fit directly into the old casing. There will need to either a mod to the extended casing, or we'll just have to 'go without', and make a casing up. It's looking like it's best to do without using the old battery at all actually, and just wire the two batteries together using the LG circuitry. (Well only one of the circuits).
Update 3: Will dig out the soldering iron tonight and get this double battery running
Update 4: Have VERY BADLY soldered the batteries together and combined battery is now charging in the phone. Due to the excess solder on the sides the battery is not quite proper fit, so I will have to redo it at some point. Really very dissappointed with how awful the soldering is, I will simply HAVE to redo it once this experiment is tested. Any tips on a soldering iron chaps? On the plus side, the one thing I do get is a temperature reading :-D
Tip number 1: Quickly snip the circuit off first and DO NOT let it touch the side of the battery casing, it will short out.
TIp number 2: h t t p://www.technfun.com/pages/article.php?id=22 Excellent guide. Take note of the safety tip!!!!
Points of interest
A) The extended battery is EXACTLY double the width of an LG battery.
B) LG OEM Batteries are made by Sanyo
C) Don't use a conventional soldering iron... it is almost impossible to solder the negative side and you will end up overheating the battery if you are not careful. (Any tips here guys?)
Charge battery up last night, and stayed up wayy too late trying to drain it.
Technique... used the 'flashlight' app to keep the LED on, turned on bluetooth, turned on wifi, and use smartshare to stream a movie (at full screen brightness) to the phone. Played Dungeon Defenders for a while as well at full brighness so hopefully the graphics core would take more power. Battery Temp got as high as 40C under 1400mah draw. Odd thing was that battery widget pro at times reported +25000 Mah(ish), yes PLUS '+', and 25000mah, that's just insane..not sure where it was getting the figures from :-(
7% battery left when I put it down, voltage was 3.550 or very close. This morning, voltage it still had 7% left and voltage had increased to 3.7 ish. Guessing it's because the battery was warm last night when under heavy strain, and now it's relaxed and cooled it's feeling better lol. (Or maybe something else?)
Running gps client down now in attempt to drain the rest before recharging. Ideally want to get it down to 1% before a full charge.
Scougar said:
Charge battery up last night, and stayed up wayy too late trying to drain it.
Technique... used the 'flashlight' app to keep the LED on, turned on bluetooth, turned on wifi, and use smartshare to stream a movie (at full screen brightness) to the phone. Played Dungeon Defenders for a while as well at full brighness so hopefully the graphics core would take more power. Battery Temp got as high as 40C under 1400mah draw. Odd thing was that battery widget pro at times reported +25000 Mah(ish), yes PLUS '+', and 25000mah, that's just insane..not sure where it was getting the figures from :-(
7% battery left when I put it down, voltage was 3.550 or very close. This morning, voltage it still had 7% left and voltage had increased to 3.7 ish. Guessing it's because the battery was warm last night when under heavy strain, and now it's relaxed and cooled it's feeling better lol. (Or maybe something else?)
Running gps client down now in attempt to drain the rest before recharging. Ideally want to get it down to 1% before a full charge.
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cool progress , can we get some pictures of the new battery?
how were u able to fit it in? i get u got a bigger case but still....
share with us ure images / knowledge its sounds really cool doing.
I basically copied what they had done on the 3500mah battery, and merely connected up the positive to positive and negative to negative terminals of the batteries using thin strips of metal, and only used one circuit from the LG battery. Basically I parallel the batteries to increase capacity.
I used a small spacer to keep the batteries seperated, but thinking about it, I could have use the bodies themselves as the 'negative' but it wouldn't have been a good connection). I then just taped the battery up and use the 3500mah battery sticker to hold it all together.
This really is just a 'prove it works' / prototype, and I will remake it neater, although I may have to buy a better soldering iron.
Pics later.
Note: After charging back up from 1% this morning to 100%, the 'estimated' mah by Battery Widget Pro is 1551mah. This would indicate to me that one battery is not connected properly unfortunately. I'm gonna run the battery and see how long it lasts under general usage. If it lasts only a day and a half, then I suspect I will have to resolder.
I bought a 3500mah half a year back and it wasn't any good. Twice the width but lasts the same as the original one. It'll be good if you could show us some pictures? I may consider making one too!
To be fair the estimated capacity of the 3500mah was around 1800 to 2000 mah. Pretty good considering it came with an extended back cover for under £5. It does seem entirely random though, and I was never comfortable without a temperature sensor.
The work I have done so far is rubbish to be honest. I thought I'd make a better job of soldering. I will have to redo it, as the fit is terrible due to the solder being too big/messy, and the connections are not very or or not working/broken.
Can't wait to see the results.
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For some reason, battery widget pro was recording very high mah draw/drain. I do not believe I soldered the negative terminals well enough. I took it apart and tried to prise a little flap of metal up for soldering, and managed to rip the terminal off the pack. I will do my best to remedy this of course and let you chaps know the result.
I also have the 3500 mAH and I was wondering if it was really giving 3500 mAH. I'm getting about 1.5 days on this battery with moderate usage. Heavy usage I get about a day. I wonder what I'm doing wrong. I think it's supposed to last longer.

Exist 4000-4500 mAh extended battery?

I want bigger battery for my Note2, but only quality battery l found is 6000mAh with battery door, which made from Note2 2cm thickness ugly beast.
Existing some (REAL) 4000-4500mAh with battery door which made Note2 maximum 1,3-1,4cm thickness?
cryingfreeman22 said:
I want bigger battery for my Note2, but only quality battery l found is 6000mAh with battery door, which made from Note2 2cm thickness ugly beast.
Existing some (REAL) 4000-4500mAh with battery door which made Note2 maximum 1,3-1,4cm thickness?
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There is a source I just found for 4200 mAh battery which supposed to be the same dimensions as OEM 3100 mAh battery. I'm waiting to receive it in a few weeks from HK ($8.99 shipped) and will review and report about its actual capacity. It shouldn't be less than 3100 mAh, I hope, and if it really can deliver 4200 mAh - that would be awesome while keeping original battery door and whatever case you are using now.
In case you're wondering what you might get one of these, just search ebay for 4250 mah note2 gold. Whoever in Cina makes these, makes them for a lot of brands.
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In case you're wondering what you might get one of these, just search ebay for 4250 mah note2 gold. Whoever in Cina makes these, makes them for a lot of brands.
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The problem is when you search on ebay you get only 2 choices, one for $25 and another one for $35. And although picture shows a battery with Note 2 label, it has 4 contacts instead of 3 contacts like on OEM battery. I have no idea what they are selling. The one I'm getting is labeled as 4200 mAh Gold model and for a fraction of the price, it has correct 3 contacts and even water damage indicator. But I have no idea about its quality or the actual capacity until I get it. If its everything I expect, I will review and post a link to it.
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There is a source I just found for 4200 mAh battery which supposed to be the same dimensions as OEM 3100 mAh battery. I'm waiting to receive it in a few weeks from HK ($8.99 shipped) and will review and report about its actual capacity. It shouldn't be less than 3100 mAh, I hope, and if it really can deliver 4200 mAh - that would be awesome while keeping original battery door and whatever case you are using now.
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l know this cheap chinese **** battery . It don't have real 4200 mAh...
cryingfreeman22 said:
l know this cheap chinese **** battery . It don't have real 4200 mAh...
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You bought it before or read about it online? What is your experience with it? Can you post a link where you got it from? Also, how were you able to determine its not 4200 mAh?
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You bought it before or read about it online? What is your experience with it? Can you post a link where you got it from? Also, how were you able to determine its not 4200 mAh?
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Lots of reviews on XDA not just for the note 2 but lots of batteries.
Regardless of it being made in China or not, there are lots of scams out there. Batteries that hold more charge must be physically larger, it's a matter of physics, unless if you are buying a battery with some very advanced rechargeable battery tech, but most batteries are li-pol or li-ion and basically in order to have more charge you need more cells, which = bigger battery.
Anyone selling a "extended" battery that is the same size is lying.
The Gold batteries are good quality OEM size batteries, but they won't hold more charge
Daemos said:
Lots of reviews on XDA not just for the note 2 but lots of batteries.
Regardless of it being made in China or not, there are lots of scams out there. Batteries that hold more charge must be physically larger, it's a matter of physics, unless if you are buying a battery with some very advanced rechargeable battery tech, but most batteries are li-pol or li-ion and basically in order to have more charge you need more cells, which = bigger battery.
Anyone selling a "extended" battery that is the same size is lying.
The Gold batteries are good quality OEM size batteries, but they won't hold more charge
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Yeah, you are absolutely right. I'm not being naive about it, just hoping that perhaps they were able to increase cell density, somehow?!? I'm not holding my breath it will be 50% increase or so. In my previous Droid X I had original OEM 1500 mAh battery. Then, after 3 months Motorola came up with 1850 mAh extended battery in the same form factor (even so they offered a new battery cover, it was just a hair thicker and fit original battery cover perfectly). And that one was a significant improvement over original capacity. So, I'm just hoping that someone was able to push an envelope to increase density to give at least 20%-25% boost without sacrificing the size. As much as I'm enjoying my current test of Seidio Innocell (4500 mAh) with ACTIVE Extended case, I miss my slim fit UAG case
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Yeah, you are absolutely right. I'm not being naive about it, just hoping that perhaps they were able to increase cell density, somehow?!? I'm not holding my breath it will be 50% increase or so. In my previous Droid X I had original OEM 1500 mAh battery. Then, after 3 months Motorola came up with 1850 mAh extended battery in the same form factor (even so they offered a new battery cover, it was just a hair thicker and fit original battery cover perfectly). And that one was a significant improvement over original capacity. So, I'm just hoping that someone was able to push an envelope to increase density to give at least 20%-25% boost without sacrificing the size. As much as I'm enjoying my current test of Seidio Innocell (4500 mAh) with ACTIVE Extended case, I miss my slim fit UAG case
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Go to this thread and go down to post 9. I posted my experience with a "gold battery" only to find out the label was just a print to scam buyers. Not only that, the battery never worked and when I was charging it, it started getting dangerously hot.
All in all, stick with branded items that have a good reputation. I paid $675 outright for my phone, and will spend $5 more for the branded battery to keep my pocket from bursting. Also, the external battery charger that come with Hyperion and Onite batteries output .350 A +- .05A so it will slow charge a battery overnight, keeping your battery at its peak life for a longer amount of time.

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