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[Q] Can I delete boot.bin and Sbl.bin from a CODE and flash?

Hi guys,
I flashed my SGS to JF3 and got the official Froyo JPO via the latest Kies. I noticed when flashed to JF3, there was step(s) to flash boot loader into the phone. So I guess if that step goes wrong, my SGS will lose 3-button combo. Is that right?
Here is the question: can I simply delete the boot.bin and Sbl.bin from the .tar file and flash without risking updating the boot loader?
Cheers,

I'm looking for the answer to this question as well.
What about ROMs that are meant to be flashed via clockwork? Can the sbl.bin and boot.bin be deleted to avoid flashing the boot loader? Will it flash properly?

qiu said:
Hi guys,
I flashed my SGS to JF3 and got the official Froyo JPO via the latest Kies. I noticed when flashed to JF3, there was step(s) to flash boot loader into the phone. So I guess if that step goes wrong, my SGS will lose 3-button combo. Is that right?
Here is the question: can I simply delete the boot.bin and Sbl.bin from the .tar file and flash without risking updating the boot loader?
Cheers,
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If you use Odin3 1.7 to flash the new ROM and not check the "update bootloader" box, even if your PDA file contains boot.bin and/or Sbl.bin, the bootloaders won't be upgraded and you will not lose the 3 button combo
.. but just to be on the safe side, yes, you can safely delete those file inside the .tar file

samperlmutar said:
I'm looking for the answer to this question as well?
What about ROMs that are meant to be flashed via clockwork? Can the sbl.bin and boot.bin be deleted to avoid flashing the boot loader? Will it flash properly?
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If it's a CWM .zip, you can delete them. BUT, you also have to remove the lines in the install script that say to install them.

Yes u can flash specific parts of the official firmware by Heimdall instead of Odin.
Search for the thread about heimdall in the forum. After preparing Heimdall, untar the official firmware and assign the relevant parts to each box except sbl and boot.

RazvanG said:
If you use Odin3 1.7 to flash the new ROM and not check the "update bootloader" box, even if your PDA file contains boot.bin and/or Sbl.bin, the bootloaders won't be upgraded and you will not lose the 3 button combo
.. but just to be on the safe side, yes, you can safely delete those file inside the .tar file
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One of the reasons why we should all switch over to 1.7. For those who are looking for it, click the link in my signature.

ragin said:
One of the reasons why we should all switch over to 1.7. For those who are looking for it, click the link in my signature.
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that option is available in 1.52 also and by default it's not selected. so does it work with 1.52, or only start from 1.7+?
thx

Another XWJS5 (new) in Samfirmware

Does anybody know the difference between the two XWJS5 firmwares?

Difference...
Yes. The previous one is for Heimdall and the new one is for Odin.
As I saw.

I have heard that the new one contains a bootloader update.
I don't know if its true tho.
/qsec

temilla said:
Does anybody know the difference between the two XWJS5 firmwares?
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Previous JS5 was an update flash (1 file), this one is a FULL Rom (3 file, 242mb). The same difference between JS3 and XEN JS3.
Anyway it shouldn't be 803 .pit. To recover from experimental partitioning I use JS3-full (which is tagged as 803) with 512.pit since 803 doesn't work for me.

matticala said:
Anyway it shouldn't be 803 .pit. To recover from experimental partitioning I use JS3-full (which is tagged as 803) with 512.pit since 803 doesn't work for me.
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Thanks for that ! I'm trying to install these JS5 since yesterday with .pit 803 without success : mount problem at reboot after odin success, formating in recovery doesn't work and updating couldn't been done by new rom (vibrate loop reboot).
Changing to 512 .pit seems to solve this problem : my phone just restarts on JS5 now !

matticala said:
Anyway it shouldn't be 803 .pit. To recover from experimental partitioning I use JS3-full (which is tagged as 803) with 512.pit since 803 doesn't work for me.
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OT- that's interesting as I flashed js3 with 803 unsuccessfully but it works with 512.
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Content of I9000 XEN I9000XWJS5.rar:
Code:
GT-I9000-CSC-XENJS3.tar.md5
I9000XWJS5-REV03-ALL-low-CL869633.tar.md5
MODEM_I9000XXJPY.tar.md5
Confirmed there are a bootloader and a Sbl file, even though those are likely the same of those included in the previous XEN JS3. I'll make a checksum to verify
UPDATE: there is no update in this new XEN JS5, md5sum for boot.bin is identical to the one bundled within XEN JS3

MarkyG82 said:
OT- that's interesting as I flashed js3 with 803 unsuccessfully but it works with 512.
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guys please let me understand.... so why you are speaking about .512 and .803 .pit?
Using odin with last rom js5 from samsungfirmware I have to select just one file in pda tab, whitout .pit file.
what's wrong in my flashing way?

Be careful on updating. Double check the bootloader and Sbl.bin. We don't want the sgs to be locked, like the galaxy tab.
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userinit said:
guys please let me understand.... so why you are speaking about .512 and .803 .pit?
Using odin with last rom js5 from samsungfirmware I have to select just one file in pda tab, whitout .pit file.
what's wrong in my flashing way?
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.pit file is used to flash the full rom (phone + modem + csc) with re-partition flagged, basically the pit file tells odin where to write the filesystems.
Whenever you have just one file (phone), you don't need either pit or re-partition flag. This last XEN JS5 is a FULL rom.
g00ndu said:
Be careful on updating. Double check the bootloader and Sbl.bin. We don't want the sgs to be locked, like the galaxy tab.
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doublechecked boot.bin (where identical), not sbl.bin though

g00ndu said:
Be careful on updating. Double check the bootloader and Sbl.bin. We don't want the sgs to be locked, like the galaxy tab.
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You're right !
I still have my DL mode after flashing these files ...

Wendigogo said:
You're right !
I still have my DL mode after flashing these files ...
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Was Auto Reboot selected? Does Odin show a green success after completition?
Official thread

matticala said:
Was Auto Reboot selected? Does Odin show a green success after completition?
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Yes for the two questions !

Wendigogo said:
You're right !
I still have my DL mode after flashing these files ...
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Just for clarify it, Samsung's 'locked' bootloader on Galaxy Tab is not the problem about download mode... The signed bootloader also allow flashing the device later... The problem is just about the files what you can use... With Samsung's signed bootloader you can flash in the future just also signed kernels, you basically you willl not able to flash custom ROM-s in the future... You can flash firmwares with Odin, you can flash Samsung beta firmwares also, just simply could not flash custom ROM-s... This could be big problem or verly small also based on your usage habit. While I use 2.2.1 I simply not use custom ROM-s, but of course before I used... Nowadays 'signed' situations could not break my life with i9000, but with Galaxy Tab it could ... at least in the near future, as it's ROM not as good as the current i9000 versions...
Hi,

eboIa said:
Just for clarify it, Samsung's 'locked' bootloader on Galaxy Tab is not the problem about download mode... The signed bootloader also allow flashing the device later... The problem is just about the files what you can use... With Samsung's signed bootloader you can flash in the future just also signed kernels, you basically you willl not able to flash custom ROM-s in the future... You can flash firmwares with Odin, you can flash Samsung beta firmwares also, just simply could not flash custom ROM-s...
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Thanks for explaining this ! But I couldn't understand why you couldn't donwgrade to a non-locked bootloader with Odin ? Don't have access to it ? But without access to it it couldn't be modified with latest Samsung FW via Odin ?

Hi
Still not patched to fixed.

for me it is interesting too why it is so messy about downgrade, could someone just wipe bootloader and force flash older back?

when i flash this i cant get the swedish keyboard in my phone
any ideas on this ist this the european ver i reverted back to I9000XWJM5 i kies tells me there is no update

Sorry one is not hiedemell both are odin one is full 3 file package which requires 803 pit file and other is single pda file flashable without pit or repartition from any previous stock rom
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[Q] Can i Combine '(FROYO)' with a '(Gingerbread)' ? (Xchange PDA)

I have a rom that is just 1 file:
FROYO:
NEE.tar (PDA)
and another rom is 4 files:
Gingerbread:
CSC-XXJV1.tar
PDA-XWJVB.tar
PHONE-XXJVK.tar
pit512.pit
I want to mix this 2 ROM and the result is something like this:
CSC-XXJV1.tar
NEE.tar <-- It's from FROYO
PHONE-XXJVK.tar
pit512.pit
IS THAT WORK ?!

I risked and try that.
result => It's worked HoHaa

Vogie said:
I risked and try that.
result => It's worked HoHaa
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It worked because CSC files, Modems (Phone) and .pit settings are totally firmware agnostic. All three work with both Froyo and Gingerbread interchangeably.
The pit file simply tells Odin how to set up the partitions. The CSC is the localization info and the Modem is the radio. Both the CSC and the Modem can be flashed via Recovery after install, so there was no real need to flash them at the same time, but it didn't appear to hurt. Likely what happened is they just flashed over the modem and CSC installed by the PDA file.
However, you may want to check in About to confirm the JVK modem is what you ended up with.

Thanks for info @rschenck
I went to downgrade boot loader to FroYo (from Gingerbread). and after that I understood that boot.bin and slb.bin is in PDA file.
I have this files:
boot.bin, slb.bin from JPU ROM
PDA_XWJS8_NEE
CSC_EZbase-XXJV1
PHONE_EZbase-XXJVK
I flashed by ODIN 1.7 and heimdall but it's failed (softbreak)
after that i backed to XWJS8 and i couldn't downgrade boot loader
What's wrong here ?! Do boot.bin and sld.bin is different in different ROMS ? what i need to repartition?
I'm confused sorry

Vogie said:
Thanks for info @rschenck
I went to downgrade boot loader to FroYo (from Gingerbread). and after that I understood that boot.bin and slb.bin is in PDA file.
I have this files:
boot.bin, slb.bin from JPU ROM
PDA_XWJS8_NEE
CSC_EZbase-XXJV1
PHONE_EZbase-XXJVK
I flashed by ODIN 1.7 and heimdall but it's failed (softbreak)
after that i backed to XWJS8 and i couldn't downgrade boot loader
What's wrong here ?! Do boot.bin and sld.bin is different in different ROMS ? what i need to repartition?
I'm confused sorry
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You are over complicating your life to an amazing degree...if all you need are the froyo bootloaders there are much easier ways.
Just search in Google for ezbase and android soul...on that website are excellent instructions for flashing ezbase via odin. From there you can flash anything you want.
Don't try to invent the wheel messing with bin files.
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COME ON!!!!
There is a lot of FROYO ROMs and I know that! but I want to try everythings!
and if you not in mood to help, please Don't disapointed me :\
1. anyway, I just want to know is different between boot.bin and slb.bin in all FroYo ROMs?
2.for repartition What's need in put in ODIN ? (just pda, or pda,csc,phone) ?
3.is boot.bin and sld.bin dangerous ?
Thanks again for respond.

[Q] Flashing Back to stock firmware on my tab

Sorry guys for being a noob.
Story is my tab is rooted and flashed with the OVERCOME RC 2.0 GOLD rom from following alterbridge's thread procedures. Beautiful rom, no complaints.
However the screen has been acting up lately with the finger held down and screen shaking issue.
Ive searched and searched and have concluded its a hardware problem.
I need to flash back to stock for warranty.
For being the noob I am, I've downloaded the stock files....but I don't know how to flash it back.
Attached is a picture of a .zip file of the files inside the zip. Do I use ODIN to flash back? What are the procedures? What file is associated with which box in ODIN? Sorry I just don't have a clue. Or do just throw this into my tab's SD memory and update from CWM recovery mode?...
Do I use superoneclick to unrooted after back to stock rom?
I just don't want to brick my tab...Thanks for any help...
The stock ROM should be a 2.2 FROYO, and the ROM I'm on right now is on Gingerbread...if this makes any difference...

Use this guide first flash with odin it tells you how to flash with odin at the bottom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894763
and after flash whatever froyo rom you want make sure you got the one that shipped with your device if its going back for warrenty again flash with odin and your done.
Edit dont forget the thanks button if this hellped you .

Thanks for the link.
So i have the .pit file for the PIT section.
No need for phone and csc section i assume.
But for PDA section i dont have any files available? From my attached picture. i only have a data.tar.gz file. Im not sure what that file is? do i just rename it to .tar??? please help

Sorry not sure on them files i think you can use heidmal with those files do a search on here for that

Anyone???
What do I use? ODIN? HEIMDALL? I need help please.

From overcome gold you will have to re-stock to froyo. Which means a repartiton with pit file + phone + modem files. You will need odin for this.
I would suggest flash back to a safe froyo rom first - as per jutleys link above. Then flash back to your original firmware version.
From the pic above looks like you have unzipped the full.zip. For Odin You need the full zip in the pda section, modem zip in the modem and the pit file in the pit section. Download full zips from roto's link above.
Then check out roto backup thread (shows how to restore using heimdall / odin). As i havent flashed back to my original firmware yet, someone else could advise better. I am assuming for stock purposes you need to put the original stock firmware zip into pda section of odin and leave everything blank and then flash away.
Cheers

ezynow said:
From overcome gold you will have to re-stock to froyo. Which means a repartiton with pit file + phone + modem files. You will need odin for this.
I would suggest flash back to a safe froyo rom first - as per jutleys link above. Then flash back to your original firmware version.
From the pic above looks like you have unzipped the full.zip. For Odin You need the full zip in the pda section, modem zip in the modem and the pit file in the pit section. Download full zips from link above.
Then check out roto backup thread (shows how to restore using heimdall / odin). As i havent flashed back to my original firmware yet, someone else could advise better. I am assuming for stock purposes you need to put the full firmware zip into pda section of odin and leave everything blank and then flash away.
Cheers
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Thank you for your response. I'll work on getting back safely to a froyo rom.
As for the picture, it is a pic of the content inside the full zip already. Should i unzip and enter modem and pit according? But what goes into the pda section?

chris28j said:
Thank you for your response. I'll work on getting back safely to a froyo rom.
As for the picture, it is a pic of the content inside the full zip already. Should i unzip and enter modem and pit according? But what goes into the pda section?
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That pic is from a firmware from samfirmware? It has the bootloaders in it so be very careful as flashing bootloaders can cause bricks or be protected ones. As i said before, i think you flash the full zip in the pda section and leave the rest blank i.e no need to unzip.
But do so only after flashing using roto safe froyo rom.
As for the files above, It might be wise to take out the bootloaders then rezip & flash but i would wait on someone with a bit more knowledge just to confirm this.
As long as they are the original files for your firmware, you should be ok.

Thanks for your help ezynow.
UPDATE: I've successfully downgraded from Overcome Gingerbread to Overcome Froyo now.
Now it's just a matter of getting my head wrapped around this stock ROM right. The order, and where the files should go.
Anyone else would like to share their insight? This is the file I downloaded, and this is how it is presented to me. I just need someone to help me sort out what is what.
Thanks.
UPDATE #2: Tried re-zipping and converting to tar file. ODIN failed. Re-zipped into tar again without the data.tar.gz file because I don't know what it is, and failed again.
I don't know what to do anymore. How do I get this to work?

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anyone?
UPDATE #3: Tried loading the whole .zip file from CWM. No luck.

Who's your service provider?

I sugest look for another stock rom here that is in the correct format i am sure i seen a post showing all stock roms somewhere use odin

Link deleted. It mentions to use pit file + full zip in pda section . Then says out of date.
Also did you check rotobbackup method thread - use heimdall and flash individual files from your extraced zip files. Assuming you can avoid flashing bootloaders you should only be a soft-brick if anything goes wrong and download mode still available.
Forget about using cwm for anything stock related.
Sum1 who has reverted back to stock surely can help out here!
p.s what was your original firmware version?

I have succesfuly downgraded from gb overcome gold to arabic froyo using the file from samfirmware. First try resulted in stuck at samsung logo but I was expecting that due to the ext4 partition. A cache wipe and factory reset in recovery solved that problem. Also I observed when going to recovery that there were errors in red that are coming out complaining of access problem to certain files. Since I am able to boot I then proceded to format the internal sd. After that I again flashed using the same arabic fw. No problems so far even kies sees my fw as the latest.
Here is the procedure I followed-change the files according to your fw version
noxxious said:
Flash with Odin3 v1.7
1. Download P1000DXKM3 from here. P1000DXKM3
1. Backup your data.
2. Extract the firmware files from the P1000DXKM3.7z file.
3. select P1_add_hidden.pit for .pit file.
4. check repartition.
5. select AP_P1000DXKM3-REV03-ALL-CL874291.tar.md5 for PDA.
6. select CP_MODEM_P1000DXKM1_REV_00_CL873880.tar.md5 for PHONE.
7. select CSC_P1000OLBKM2-MULTI-CL878295.tar.md5 for CSC.
8. Flash your tab and wait for it to restart.
9. Welcome back to stock.
extra steps
10. Root by using SuperOneClick v1.9.1 by CLShortFuse.
11. Unsign Bootloaders by using this SGT-Bootloader-Patch by chainfire and rotohammer.
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Thanks a lot for the help guys.
I will try going to another stock firmware later this afternoon.
However, the firmware I really need is P1000MUGJJ7 (Bell's stock firmware).
The files I have in hand are apparently the files for this firmware, but how to restore it, I have zero clue. These we're sent to me by a member on this forum.
I think the member said that these were created from roto backup.
I have looked everywhere else for this firmware version but it's NOWHERE. Neither does samfirmware.com
So to sum it up, pretty much these are my only sources to play with, and just gotta make it work...
Please help and thanks again.

anyone?
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What are the contents of this bell fw? have you tried opening the file?

bongski55 said:
What are the contents of this bell fw? have you tried opening the file?
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Please refer to the attached picture.
It's a pic of the contents inside the .zip file I was given.
Now I just need a solution as to HOW to use them.

Only the pit.pit file can be used.extract it and in odin load it under pit. then under pda load the whole tar file. then check repartition ,reboot and time.....start...

bongski55 said:
Only the pit.pit file can be used.extract it and in odin load it under pit. then under pda load the whole tar file. then check repartition ,reboot and time.....start...
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OK. So you are suggesting I take out pit file then CONVERT in someway the whole .zip file into .tar file for the PDA section, am I correct?
Now, I need a proper way to convert this file because I tried this using a converter I downloaded online. And after the conversion, the .tar files was double the size (over 400mb, original ~200mb). And flashing through ODIN using this new file didn't work. So what's the proper way to convert?

[Q] How to downgrade from CM10 to stock GB?

Long story but I need to downgrade my i9000 from CM10 (currently on c-rom bean v2.3) back to stock 2.3.6 and couldnt find anything specific to the i9000 on to how to do it. Can I just get the stock firmware (ie PDA, CSC, Phone) and then flash through Odin? But I read on XDA (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1729458) that I may also need PIT and Bootloader? If so, where can I download these files??? Any help greatly appreciated!!!!

blion said:
Long story but I need to downgrade my i9000 from CM10 (currently on c-rom bean v2.3) back to stock 2.3.6 and couldnt find anything specific to the i9000 on to how to do it. Can I just get the stock firmware (ie PDA, CSC, Phone) and then flash through Odin? But I read on XDA (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1729458) that I may also need PIT and Bootloader? If so, where can I download these files??? Any help greatly appreciated!!!!
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You have to download any 3 files stock ROM (I suggest you JVS, as JW versions can damage your IMEI), then select PDA, CSC and Phone
in ODIN. You don't have to have bootloader, as it is already in PDA, and yes, you have to have PIT file, it is usually within archive with ROM.
Just flash it and you're done. For download go to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837223 and you'll find
there any ROM you want. Hope it will help you.
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twinsen.net said:
You have to download any 3 files stock ROM (I suggest you JVS, as JW versions can damage your IMEI), then select PDA, CSC and Phone
in ODIN. You don't have to have bootloader, as it is already in PDA, and yes, you have to have PIT file, it is usually within archive with ROM.
Just flash it and you're done. For download go to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837223 and you'll find
there any ROM you want. Hope it will help you.
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Thanks for your prompt response. I am looking to go back to stock GB and last time I downloaded them from here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102881&page=1). I chose XWJW8/XWJW1/VAUJV9/Sbl (CSC: VAU (Vodafone)) as I live in Australia and my provider is Vodafone. But how do I extract the PIT file??
Also out of curiosity, what if I chose the stock rom of another network provider? Does it make a difference??

blion said:
But how do I extract the PIT file??
Also out of curiosity, what if I chose the stock rom of another network provider? Does it make a difference??
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you cannot extract a PIT File, you can download a 512 PIT file from My Android Collections
If you use telstra , it will not work for vodafone and vice versa as they are branded
(Do remember to backup your contacts, data, images etc and also your EFS folder before flashing a ROM and make sure you have more than 50% battery charge before you attempt any sort of flashing.)

xsenman said:
you cannot extract a PIT File, you can download a 512 PIT file from My Android Collections
If you use telstra , it will not work for vodafone and vice versa as they are branded
(Do remember to backup your contacts, data, images etc and also your EFS folder before flashing a ROM and make sure you have more than 50% battery charge before you attempt any sort of flashing.)
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Ok. So I take the 512 pit file from your link and also the official GB firmware from Ramad's thread. Then flash using Odin with only PIT, PDA, Phone and CSC. Also "re-partition", "Auto reboot" and "F Reset Time" needs to be ticked. Sorry about being so padantic but just wanted to make sure I get the steps right the first time. Thanks!!!

blion said:
Ok. So I take the 512 pit file from your link and also the official GB firmware from Ramad's thread. Then flash using Odin with only PIT, PDA, Phone and CSC. Also "re-partition", "Auto reboot" and "F Reset Time" needs to be ticked. Sorry about being so padantic but just wanted to make sure I get the steps right the first time. Thanks!!!
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yup, that should do it mate.