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Trillian beta for Android w/Push

http://www.trillian.im/learn/tour-android.html
Trillian for Android beta. It's really nice so far, been using it for a few days.
Most important thing to me is push notifications. While it doesn't indicate that it has push notifications, it most certainly does. In the settings make sure you check Push Email notifications and battery saving mode (this is how I have it configured). Don't worry, if you have Froyo you won't get any e-mails, it'll just push. I've tested it from another AIM app. On the home screen with the screen off I get IM's instantly every time I've tried it, with no e-mails. This is the first developer app I've personally seem that uses push.
It doesn't seem to poll or use the battery any. I've run it every day with AIM and Facebook chat and my spare parts doesn't show it using the battery and neither does my standard battery info section.
Seems pretty awesome so far. I haven't shut it off yet. Hopefully everyone else's experience is the same.

I've used trillian on my desktop for years, and I've had the beta on my since I got it back in August. The only gripe I have is that if you leave MSN running on your computer, and you sign in on Trillian from your phone, it wipes your display picture and your display theme.

** edit - n/m it loaded fine since I have Cognition/Rooted etc.
Looks awesome - have to see how the battery life is on the phone with it loaded.

brandonb81 said:
http://www.trillian.im/learn/tour-android.html
Trillian for Android beta. It's really nice so far, been using it for a few days.
Most important thing to me is push notifications. While it doesn't indicate that it has push notifications, it most certainly does. In the settings make sure you check Push Email notifications and battery saving mode (this is how I have it configured). Don't worry, if you have Froyo you won't get any e-mails, it'll just push. I've tested it from another AIM app. On the home screen with the screen off I get IM's instantly every time I've tried it, with no e-mails. This is the first developer app I've personally seem that uses push.
It doesn't seem to poll or use the battery any. I've run it every day with AIM and Facebook chat and my spare parts doesn't show it using the battery and neither does my standard battery info section.
Seems pretty awesome so far. I haven't shut it off yet. Hopefully everyone else's experience is the same.
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Would you mind clarifying?
If I am using Froyo. Is push email not currently functional or you do not use the option? I would like to use this for email purposes.

Shovelhead84 said:
Would you mind clarifying?
If I am using Froyo. Is push email not currently functional or you do not use the option? I would like to use this for email purposes.
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I believe if you choose push email and have froyo you will just get push notifications when you get a message, you won't actually get an email.
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is this using C2DM to push in 2.2 like Beejive is?

andy2na said:
is this using C2DM to push in 2.2 like Beejive is?
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Yes, it appears to be using C2DM. I wasn't aware Beejive was using it though, but that's good. More developers need to get on board. Ideally the IM app should NEVER poll or communicate to the server in any way. Run it in the background but just so it opens quicker. Use Push to receive messages.

man thats the one thing I miss about my iphone was real push notifications.
Is Beejive any good compared to this? I currently use Meebo, but would love to try another messenger that supports push in 2.2

i'm using trillian, with legend 2.2. is it c2dm really works? because it's still appear in the running app. which mean still running in the background (also app still appear in the notification bar). i was thinking, if c2dm works well, this app shoud be not appear in the running app, right? should i must kill this app, to make c2dm works? (beside app not appear in the notification bar). please help me

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i'm using trillian, with legend 2.2. is it c2dm really works? because it's still appear in the running app. which mean still running in the background (also app still appear in the notification bar). i was thinking, if c2dm works well, this app shoud be not appear in the running app, right? should i must kill this app, to make c2dm works? (beside app not appear in the notification bar). please help me
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No. It works. The icon in the notification bar is to remind you it's running and for easy access to the app. Don't mess with anything.

I wasted money on buying this app, just figured out, it was this draining my battery. about 6% an hour vs 1% with it off.

BriEE said:
I wasted money on buying this app, just figured out, it was this draining my battery. about 6% an hour vs 1% with it off.
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It's going to drain your battery having something polling for new messages if you aren't on Android 2.2 and have push enabled.

I was on 2.2 and now on 2.3, still drains regardless, push or not whatever...

BriEE said:
I was on 2.2 and now on 2.3, still drains regardless, push or not whatever...
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That's like saying I breath air whether I'm awake or sleeping.

[Q] Any alternate to LED notification??

I tried NoLED from the app market but I can't get it to work on the Fascinate. Does anyone have any ideas or know of any apps to get either recurring visual or audio notifications?

lbmorgan said:
I tried NoLED from the app market but I can't get it to work on the Fascinate. Does anyone have any ideas or know of any apps to get either recurring visual or audio notifications?
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I've used NoLed since I purchased my phone in Sept with no problem. In fact, the wife and I both use it. Uninstall and reinstall and see if that works. Also, you should add the NoLed widget to your home screen and then tap it, colored dots should appear inside the box. At that point it's activated. If you reboot your phone I believe it does it for you.
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HAHA .. I am such a twit .. I didn't have the app activated .. sigh

lbmorgan said:
HAHA .. I am such a twit .. I didn't have the app activated .. sigh
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lol happens to all of us noobs though I'm not admitting anything lol
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NoLED was a great option prior to the popularity of "BackLight Notification" or BLN.
If you have a compatible kernel, I think it's a better way to go. It doesn't differentiate between different "kinds" of messages like NoLED does, but it's cleaner, and doesn't use the LED screen at all, potentially saving battery and protecting your screen from potential burnin/out.

exnihilo said:
NoLED was a great option prior to the popularity of "BackLight Notification" or BLN.
If you have a compatible kernel, I think it's a better way to go. It doesn't differentiate between different "kinds" of messages like NoLED does, but it's cleaner, and doesn't use the LED screen at all, potentially saving battery and protecting your screen from potential burnin/out.
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Oh wow, never realized what that app was. Just downloaded it thanks. How long do the buttons stay lit? And why aren't they blinking? lol
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There is an app I use that was originally developed for the captivate called blinky. Its in the marketplace now.
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Grimis said:
Oh wow, never realized what that app was. Just downloaded it thanks. How long do the buttons stay lit? And why aren't they blinking? lol
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I never could get that app to work right on the Fasc. It used to be the bees knees, till people started realizing that the lights never turn off until the message has been cleared. In other words, the 10 sec, 15, 30 second versions all stay on till the notification is cleared, despite supposedly having a timer. Newer versions of the BLN app have come and gone, yet I have heard nothing positive about them in the Fasc forum.

mindtrip1016 said:
I never could get that app to work right on the Fasc. It used to be the bees knees, till people started realizing that the lights never turn off until the message has been cleared. In other words, the 10 sec, 15, 30 second versions all stay on till the notification is cleared, despite supposedly having a timer. Newer versions of the BLN app have come and gone, yet I have heard nothing positive about them in the Fasc forum.
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BLN does not have a timer unless it is set on blink mode, and there are no working kernels with BLN 2.3, which is required for blinking for the Fascinate. The "timer" you are likely referring to is probably for the timeout for the buttons when the screen is on. Since DJ05/DL09, the buttons stay lit as long as the screen is on.

To control the blinking rate, use "blinky" from market
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Blinky 2.3 (download zip from thread, flash in Clockwork) works on the Fascinate. Blinky 2.4 (Market version, no flashing) works to turn BLN on/off, but doesn't actualy blink stuff.

Try sms popup, works like the handcent pop up, but works for the stock messaging app which is what i use
so fresh and so superclean.

imnuts said:
BLN does not have a timer unless it is set on blink mode, and there are no working kernels with BLN 2.3, which is required for blinking for the Fascinate. The "timer" you are likely referring to is probably for the timeout for the buttons when the screen is on. Since DJ05/DL09, the buttons stay lit as long as the screen is on.
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Really? Do you recall the release of BLN? Now it appears the developer has added internal settings. However, the releases in October-November could be downloaded via XDA and came in .zip format with an option in increments of 5-10 seconds up to 30 seconds. Despite the option, the light never turned off until the notification was cleared, even with a supportive kernel, resulting in rapid battery drain in my case. This was a turn off for me and I have not reviewed the product since. Now it appears that the lights blink instead of constantly glowing. I will have to check out the newer version.

didn't know of these apps til i read this thread. thanx everyone.

Notification Application (alternative to noLED)

Hi Everyone!
I'm wondering whether there's an alternative to noLED? Unfortunately I don't have an AMOLED Screen so the battery will drain way too fast and it doesn't look particularly good. Still, I like how noLED supports basically all applications.
I would like to have timed reminder for certain chat apps (Kakao Talk) and maybe the EMail Client K-9. This should be a vibration or sound-altert.
I have been looking around but I can't really find an application that does exactly that. It seems like noLED could do it as well but it will also use the Screen?
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I hope for your input.
Thanks!

Well if you use a kernel that supports bln, youu get the lights for the back home tc buttons to light up or flash, saving battery. Try netarchy kernel for example.
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Ahh, thank you!
I've been crazy after going from my HTC Desire with LED notification to the Nexus S with no LED notfication. Have been using NOled, but don't like it.
Is there any ROM that support that "lights for the back home tc buttons to light up or flash" ?

As stone mentioned, you would just have to check if your kernel, or the kernel packaged in whichever rom supports BLN. For nexus s 4G, netarchy's is the only one I know of.

Get Tasker. If you have basic programming experiance, or can at least figure out stuff, you can make all kinds of stuff with it.
I made something that repeats the notification sound every 10 seconds until the screen is woken. You can make it for specific notifications. I have one for google voice, and gmail.

Luxferro said:
Get Tasker. If you have basic programming experiance, or can at least figure out stuff, you can make all kinds of stuff with it.
I made something that repeats the notification sound every 10 seconds until the screen is woken. You can make it for specific notifications. I have one for google voice, and gmail.
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Are u on regular nexus s or the 4G? I have a tasker profile set up for GV, but doesn't work that well. Mind sharing your profile?
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Cyanogenmod 7, the 4 capacitive buttons light up
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decalex said:
As stone mentioned, you would just have to check if your kernel, or the kernel packaged in whichever rom supports BLN. For nexus s 4G, netarchy's is the only one I know of.
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So once I have flashed netarchy's kernel, how do I enable the home button notifications on the stock rom? Or should it just work?

gman8966 said:
So once I have flashed netarchy's kernel, how do I enable the home button notifications on the stock rom? Or should it just work?
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Use this https://market.android.com/details?id=neldar.bln.control.free&feature=search_result

4.2 known bugs

I thought it would be nice for both users and developers what to expect from next update to fix or be fixed. I'm gonna give a kick start to known bugs, so that we can be aware of the faults of 4.2. Don't shoot the things you didn't like here since it is nothing to do with this "bug" thread. Here I go..
1. I keep telling myself this should not be a bug since it is so obvious but there is no reason for it to be implemented that way. Which is the hour segment of lock screen time being bold and the other half is normal font.. Maybe there is a reason for this hopefully..
2. Pull down the notification bar from top, when it is down, pull down from the top most again. Notification center will continue going down and out of the screen. It applies for both quick settings and notification center.. Major bug! - 1 to googles test engineers.
Now you can add your own test cases and bugs and maybe we have great devs to sort them out and develop great custom roms..

I don't think either is a bug ,more or less design desicions. I actually like both things you mentioned
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neither are bugs
last one you mentioned stops extending menus down the way when dpi is changed

Wakawaka024 said:
I don't think either is a bug ,more or less design desicions. I actually like both things you mentioned
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I can understand the first one but you clearly didn't understand the second. This is a major bug because a layout goes out of screen. They seem to not lock pulling down from the top most of the screen when it is already pulled down.. Result; notification center goes out of the screen..

aLPaSLaN07 said:
I can understand the first one but you clearly didn't understand the second. This is a major bug because a layout goes out of screen. They seem to not lock pulling down from the top most of the screen when it is already pulled down.. Result; notification center goes out of the screen..
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If you fling it down it stops ,then you can pull it all the way down or just fling it back up.trust me they designed it that way ,it's not a bug.
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This is probably a feature Not really a bug..
But on the lock screen .. Long tap the clock quickly.. you will see a big square highlight the unlock button Slide to unlock . This will take you to a STOP WATCH TYPE INTERFACE..
I Was hoping there would be a way in there to change the stupid bold hour number . That is gross to look at ..
Just to try it i Created a 3rd user..From the lock screen then you log into that user account to set it up. When it gets the point it ask for user Name SU Pops up asking to grant permission .. then give a message ..
SuperSU has granted superuser permission :/system/bin/id
tried 3 times .. if you let it set on that screen you will get Supersu isnt responding .. You click ok then it will allow you to continue setting up the account.
The second account set up fine.. Just thought i would try a 3rd and look at directory structure..
Can someone try and see if its just me with the issue. It finally created the account. with a reboot. but its unstable .Thanks Erica

Youtube is borked with stereo (a2dp) bluetooth headsets - sync issues, laggy, scratchy. They have clearly done some changes to bluetooth audio (you can hear the bluetooth headset mute/come alive when there is a moment or two of no sound).
Can't log into gmail with another account in chrome.
I used to log into another account in chrome that I haven't bothered linking. I went to gmail in chrome (not requesting desktop version) and I was already logged into my primary account. It's never done that before. I thought no big deal and signed out. Now gmail continually loops on the address constantly refreshing but the site never actually comes up.
And not a bug, but I'm annoyed Nexus 7 didn't get miracast. Can't imagine the reason for that. And the what's new page isn't clear that it is only nexus 4. http://www.android.com/whatsnew/
Yes it does say "Share what’s on your phone on the big screen." but the rest of the text and the page makes it seem like these are 4.2 features and not exclusive to N4. I'm hoping custom roms will enable miracast.
Also, not a bug but a feature lost, the camera no longer has the funny faces (big nose, small eyes etc). ya I know a dorky feature but I don't see why it was removed. I know the nexus 7 didn't have the camera enabled by default but we have the new camera app so I assume other devices lost those as well.

Settings -> About tablet -> Status crashes, 100% of the time
Navigation never gets past "waiting for location" even though the icon on the status bar indicates a lock in. It works fine in the maps app.

Matt1408 said:
Settings -> Status crashes, 100% of the time
Navigation never gets past "waiting for location" even though the icon on the status bar indicates a lock in. It works fine in the maps app.
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No issues with settings Or google nav.. Nav will get a lock and waiting for me to drive . With me sitting in my living room.. .

Is swiping through home screens smooth? Before it would bounce back
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erica_renee said:
No issues with settings Or google nav.. Nav will get a lock and waiting for me to drive . With me sitting in my living room.. .
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Maybe I should do a factory restore. I don't want to lose my game save files though, grrrr!

Um....why does changing dpi to 160 in build.prop not flip to tablet mode? I have confirmed it reads that way in build.prop after reboot....
Help...i will have to revert...
Rooted, unlocked c60 with ota updated 4.2
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tbonezx11 said:
Um....why does changing dpi to 160 in build.prop not flip to tablet mode? I have confirmed it reads that way in build.prop after reboot....
Help...i will have to revert...
Rooted, unlocked c60 with ota updated 4.2
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Google got rid of tablet UI forever.
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Thanks ... anyone want to provide a helpful tip and not be a dbag?...
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Anybody else having issues with Gmail 4.2 not having pinch to zoom? I installed the ROM and did a factory reset. Still no pinch to zoom.
EDIT:
As it turns out, this option is in the settings. User error.

tbonezx11 said:
Thanks ... anyone want to provide a helpful tip and not be a dbag?...
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What I told you is true I'm not being a dbag dude! There's no way for tablet UI on 4.2 until a devolver figure it out.
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geoldr said:
Anybody else having issues with Gmail 4.2 not having pinch to zoom? I installed the ROM and did a factory reset. Still no pinch to zoom.
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Go to gmail settings and click the auto fit messages
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erica_renee said:
This is probably a feature Not really a bug..
But on the lock screen .. Long tap the clock quickly.. you will see a big square highlight the unlock button Slide to unlock . This will take you to a STOP WATCH TYPE INTERFACE..
I Was hoping there would be a way in there to change the stupid bold hour number . That is gross to look at ..
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Thanks for the tip, I had a bit of a play. It looks like it's just the digital clock widget, it's probably just a matter of time before more lock screen widgets become available
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I'm getting an issue when tethering via Bluetooth. This morning it was working fine, the update came down while I was tethered to my phone, after the install I can pair to my phone but it won't connect.
I've tried deleting the pairing on both, re-pairing, rebooting... Anyone else having a problem? Anyone else doing Bluetooth tethering?
edit: never mind, I worked it out, I had to go in and select that I wanted to use the "Internet Access" profile

Seems like realvnc doesn't like this new update crashes
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Matt1408 said:
Maybe I should do a factory restore. I don't want to lose my game save files though, grrrr!
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I know it sucks. I backed up with rom toolbox. And restored. Not sure if it saves game data thou.
I was on custom rom

[Q] Email screen on mod

Is there a way to have the screen turn on when I get a notification? More specifically an email. I did notice in the Roms section there are tweaks to have SMS screen on.
There are apps in the play store that will allow this but they all require the accessibility settings to be turned on which affects how the lock screen works so looking for a way to do this without using an app.
Thanks

fibrousman said:
Is there a way to have the screen turn on when I get a notification? More specifically an email. I did notice in the Roms section there are tweaks to have SMS screen on.
There are apps in the play store that will allow this but they all require the accessibility settings to be turned on which affects how the lock screen works so looking for a way to do this without using an app.
Thanks
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You'll either need a different rom or an app, it might be added by an HTC update at some point but I haven't read anything about it. I think HTC thought the notification light was good enough...

I use sms popup for texts. There is an app called notify me in the play store, that if you purchase the pro version you can set up different apps to have the screen turn on. The free version only allows sms.
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born_fisherman said:
I use sms popup for texts. There is an app called notify me in the play store, that if you purchase the pro version you can set up different apps to have the screen turn on. The free version only allows sms.
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Thanks, Ive tried that one but as I mentioned earlier it has to be enabled in Accessibility Settings which makes the locksceen not work correctly.
BableMan said:
You'll either need a different rom or an app, it might be added by an HTC update at some point but I haven't read anything about it. I think HTC thought the notification light was good enough...
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Hopefully it has been noticed by HTC and it will get updated. The light whilst good is sometimes hard to see.
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fibrousman said:
Hopefully it has been noticed by HTC and it will get updated. The light whilst good is sometimes hard to see.
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Trickdroid is pretty sweet and stable plus they have wake on sms and you'll get the update that hasn't come to a lot of stateside folks yet. That was a weird feature not to get though, I came from IOS and thought all phones integrated it these days

BableMan said:
Trickdroid is pretty sweet and stable plus they have wake on sms and you'll get the update that hasn't come to a lot of stateside folks yet. That was a weird feature not to get though, I came from IOS and thought all phones integrated it these days
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Yes I've put Trickdroid on it and allows a lot of customization which is great. I too came from iOS as that was just getting a bit dull and samey!! However I do miss how good it was at the notifications...
I do like this HTC One phone though...:good:
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