Is there a way to create a complete backup of my phone with a custom rom, all my apps and settings, and even the way the file system is configured (ie. ext4) like in Voodoo or ULF?
Can ODIN do this or is the ClockworkMOD recovery able to do this? Since I am not sure Clockwork will backup my ext4 configured lagfix and also restore that successfully.
Hope I am not reposting...but thanks for any help anyways!
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So I'm running Fresh 2.1 and tried to upgrade to 2.3.3 last night, but it was putting it into an endless reboot. I made sure I wiped the cache and data so the only thing I can think of that's causing the problem is that I'm using apps2sd and didn't wipe my ext3 partition. Reflashed back to my 2.1 backup and things are back to running fine now thankfully. It's brought a few questions up for me, though
Before I go the route of wiping my ext3 partition for apps2sd I want to make sure I can still recover back to the way things were before in case the upgrade to 2.3.3 doesn't work. I use Clockwork ROM Manager with Nandroid to do my backups but when watching the backup take place it looks like it tries to mount the ext3 partition to back it up but fails. Honestly not fully familiar with how apps2sd really works, so I don't know if that failure during the nandroid backup means my apps on the ext3 partition aren't getting backed up. Would that mean that if I wiped the ext3 partition and tried to recover my 2.1 ROM that my apps would not be there?
I thought maybe I could just undo the apps2sd setup, do a backup and then I'd be fine. But I'm having trouble finding clear, up to date instructions for how to undo apps2sd.
If anyone can clarify any of my issues or point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it. Thanks!
Could someone at least point me to some updated instructions for undoing apps2sd on the Sprint Hero?
pdragon said:
Could someone at least point me to some updated instructions for undoing apps2sd on the Sprint Hero?
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The instructions you are looking for are here
Normally (at least in the RA recovery) when you go to the backup menu for nandroid, you can choose if you wish to backup normally or with the ext partition included (much bigger file, takes longer). Regardless, if you wipe your ext partition, and you need to nandroid back, the backup will work fine, you will just need to reinstall your applications.
I save myself some time when I need to do this by using "Shootme" (free on the market) and take screen shots of my apps, then I can just refer back to the screenies to find everything I need. Alternatively, you could use the ADB "pull" command and take a copy of your apps directory onto your computer, then push them back if needs be.
Hope this helps!
Thanks for the reply, runngwlf. I guess either the version of Nandroid I have, ClockworkMod Recovery, or my phone doesn't support backing up with the ext. When I go into Nandroid, my only options are Backup, Restore & Advanced Restore. Choosing backup just goes straight into running the backup with no choices. During the backup it gives an error saying it couldn't mount the ext partition.
Thanks for confirming the backup will still work, just without my apps. Guess I'll give it a shot!
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Normally (at least in the RA recovery) when you go to the backup menu for nandroid, you can choose if you wish to backup normally or with the ext partition included (much bigger file, takes longer)...
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Hah! That little tidbit got me going in the right direction. Looking through the ClockworkMod i saw an option to install RA Recovery as an alternative boot recovery. Lo and behold, rebooting into RA Recovery gives me that ext backup option. Thanks again!
I'm trying to Nand backup my Paragon Rom in Recovery but I'm getting 2 options,
1. Backup DATA: data + dbdata + cache
2. Backup all
also which one do I have to use for recovery,
1. Restore
2. Restore all (be careful!)
also Do I need to disable lagfix before Nand backups?
Thanks a bunch.
Backup all, restore all
Do not have to disable lag fixonly restore this back up if you are on same rom
If you have your phone running without a LagFix but you have a Nandroid Backup that was done with LagFix Enable can you Restore? If so will the newly restored phone have LagFix Off or On?
Thanks
RonH54 said:
If you have your phone running without a LagFix but you have a Nandroid Backup that was done with LagFix Enable can you Restore? If so will the newly restored phone have LagFix Off or On?
Thanks
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Don't take this as the 100% accurate truth, but my assumption is that nandroid backup and your lagfix are not tied together.
The reason I say this is that the lagfix is usually accomplished by converting certain portions of the phone's file system to the ext4 file system. The backup you made is a collection of files that resides somewhere on your phone, and when you restore it, you'll be copying those files to their previous locations in whatever filesystem you're currently using. If you have lagfix (ext4) on, it will write those files as ext4 files. If you have lagfix off (rfs), it will write them as rfs files. Ultimately, it's a lot like incorporating the lagfix in the first place - the files are copied to a safe location, the filesystem is rewritten to ext4, and the files are copied back.
Again, I'm not a person who is highly knowledgeable about computer file systems, so I may be incorrect. Hopefully someone who completely understands this will chime in and give a more detailed or more correct reply.
You are correct. the first thing that happens when you enable a lagfix is it makes a nandroid. Then formats the file system then restores the nandroid and boots.
It doesn't matter what file system it was taken from the files are restored to what ever file system Is present.
If I have to switch file systems but I don't wanna lose data will recovering backups restore the filesystem of the backup too?
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If I have to switch file systems but I don't wanna lose data will recovering backups restore the filesystem of the backup too?
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In theory the latest CWM (5.0.2.0 as of this moment) should be able to restore the filesystem as well as the data. In practice however this doesn't work yet. (At least not for me if trying to restore an ext3-backup on an ext4-phone.)
That's not really a concern though, because you can revert from ext4 to ext3 by running/installing "r1_backtoext3-2x-unsigned.zip" (search for it) before restoring the backup, or install another .zip which will convert ext3 to ext4 without data-loss if going the other way. (Cannot remember the filename right now, never used it myself.) I think Rusty packaged that one.
CMW can backup the whole rom /system included. I always change into CM7 and the Leaked GB via the backup/restore.
My best bud was complaining about how slow his stock SGS was so I decided to help as I've fixed about 20 phones now without any issues! Until now!
Problem
Lost Contacts which were stored to phone memory
Lost memos
Almost all programs are Force Closing
History
Installed clockwork recovery as per Cyanogen Wiki page (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S:_Full_Update_Guide)
Then using the new SpeedMod kernel by Hardcore, I rooted the phone and also converted the file system to EXT4 to ensure the lagfix worked nicely
The Recovery automaticalled generated a Nandroid back-up before the file system conversion took place.
When phone started, a lot of programs Force Closed, so we ran a Fix Permissions and this solved most problems. However, a few days have passed and now the phone is constantly FC. The loss of contacts and memo's was annoying but he wasn't too bothered as had various back-ups
So I tried a Nandroid restore which works apart from system.img which it cannot find.
I wonder if the system.img backup doesn't work since the file system was changed to EXT4? Do you think if I push the nandroid backup using ADB, it will successfully restore the phone with contacts and memo's too?
That's why I never touch someone else's phone. Always something goes wrong that never gone on my phone.
Sounds like you need to do...
Wipe data/factory reset
Wipe cache partition
...in clockworkmod to make a clean install.
If your friend didn't set up a syncronisation in "Accounts and sync" between google and the phone, AFAIK you cannot revert back contacts and memos
After turning the file system to EXT4, it removes backups.Because its not a nandroid backup. Just backing up your files before the partition formatting. So, no luck.
I'm not a android expert, so I might be wrong about it.