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I think I just figured out how to fix it!!!!!!! I was tinkering around and got my red light brick to turn on!!!! I'm not sure exactly what fixed it so here's everything I did-
1. Removed the storage & sim cards.
2. Took off the backplate.
3. Removed the battery.
4. Bent these 2 pins up a little bit:
5. Put the battery in at an angle, so that the power leads were connected, but the metal shielding plate on the back of the battery was not touching:
6. Hit the power button (with the battery still "halfway" installed) Bam, green light of life.
Somebody please confirm this. Meanwhile I'll be copywriting this process so anyone who performs it owes me 10 bucks
So my replacement Tilt isn't working either, so they're overnighting me a third one. In the meantime, I haven't sent back my original (RLoDed) Tilt, so I thought I'd play around with some of your theories.
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Another thought I had. After the tilt goes into red brick death mode, has anyone tried plugging it into power, battery installed, and then holding down power+camera(all the way) and then pushing in the reset button on the bottom? This may trigger it to go into flash mode - although I kinda doubt it'll work. Worth a shot! Might be able to reflash it back to life! Holding down power and camera while it boots is how you manually force it to get in the Red/Green/Blue firmware flash mode. If it let us do that much when the device bricked we might have a snowball's chance in hell of getting them working. I didn't think of trying it before I returned mine tho. D'oh!
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I didn't know what to try besides installing the battery and SIM card and trying to push down the power, camera, and stylus buttons (I knew I was doing it correctly, because I had to use this to return my second Tilt to factory specs). No response whatsoever! This thing is deader than a doornail. Except for the red LED, of course... that works REALLY well whenever it's plugged in.
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I think I just figured out how to fix it!!!!!!! I was tinkering around and got my red light brick to turn on!!!! I'm not sure exactly what fixed it so here's everything I did-
1. Removed the storage & sim cards.
2. Took off the backplate.
3. Removed the battery.
4. Bent these 2 pins up a little bit:
5. Put the battery in at an angle, so that the power leads were connected, but the metal shielding plate on the back of the battery was not touching:
6. Hit the power button (with the battery still "halfway" installed) Bam, green light of life.
Somebody please confirm this. Meanwhile I'll be copywriting this process so anyone who performs it owes me 10 bucks
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I appreciate your enthusiasm, but the only thing I can confirm is that this did NOT work on my RLoDed Tilt. Tried it several times in various ways. I think you just seriously lucked out!
As such, I'd also have to vote against stickying this... for now.
Best of luck, all... if not actually in fixing your RLoDed Tilts, then definitely in avoiding the $500 service fee if AT&T discovers we voided our warranties.
alright i will confirm this too....my phone was truely RLOD..... i did the same thing that these guys did just jammin the battery in and out and it "jump started the phone"
exact process used
Moto Razr charger
hold down power button
"bounce" battery on and off the contacts for the battery a good 100 times or so
green light apeared after the red light started to flicker a little bit..... tis as if you were giving the phone CPR or something
im not going to call this a fix all i know is that the phone was RLOD and now it is working....battery is at 54% right now and i will post back in a bit to see if it has risen at all....
no smell arising from device
running origional rom but have had other roms on there (alex's)
hard SPL still installed on device
SPB phone suite is the last software that was installed on the device
reg tweaks installed as well, the usual ones no sms, hsdpa enabled blah blah blah
that is about all i can provide....the unit was on the computer overnight charging....when i woke up it was RLOD....and i was sad....i did have the ATT store replace the battery for me as well dunno if that had anything to do with the issue...
in the time that it has taken me to write this the battery is now at 55% so it is charging.....on wall charger with MOTO razr charger
ok lets take a little closer look at what happened within the past little bit....
after gettin the device all up and running it was behaving very oddly.... it would go through multiple attempts to connect to the data network for various reasons....after showing that it was at 55% on the charger it went back down to 54%... i pulled it off the charger and took it into the other room to do something......within 10 min it was down to 46%....now having a data connection my blackberry connect should have a valid network connection....but it did not... not sure why...
the best that i can conclude is that it was trying to connect to so many things all at the same time that it exhausted its self that fast....
so the question is how many people out there that have RLOD are running the BB connect software on there devices and have made REG edits to the data connection time outs and the HSDPA mod availability
editing those settings together may confuse the device and make it think that it has to connect to too many things at one time....
just another thought process that i thought that i would throw out there...
here are some things on the my device that would use the DATA connection and automatically initiate the connection on the device rather than you opening a program forcing it to connect such as Internet explorer
GPS update
HTC home weather tab
SPB weather tab
Blackberry connect
SPB insight....RSS Reader
text messages going in and out....my phone sees quite a few of those
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There have been a few other people who have now fixed their RLOD's. Confirmed it was done by messing about with the battery. If you have revived yours, please post your method in here so we can compare them and eventually pinpoint the fix. Thanks.
i had the same prob..took out the batterly wiped the four contact points on the phone (might of pushed them down or up) and put battery back in and worked..
I believe sWuRv was onto something. My Tilt had the RLOD today. I tried everything, even what he suggested above to no avail. So I called warranty and got my replacement on it's way, express shipping waved and all. So I decided to everything I could think of to try and get the thing back on so I might be able to back up my data again.
I started fooling with the battery, like sWuRv suggested but I moved it all around at 45 degrees or so pushing the power on button. I noticed while it was plugged to the USB with red light on that every now and then the red light would flash when I moved the battery so the contacts moved (while holding the battery at that 45 degrees). I started getting the light to go yellow but it would not stay. So I unplugged from the USB and kept trying it while pushing the power button. It eventually started and I was able to back up to my SD card. One thing I can tell you is that this process caused the phone to get hot and smell like electronics burning a little. There is definitely a power problem inside.
I have no idea how or why this worked but it did. I think I will still take the replacement even though I have to figure out how to swap my fancy invisible armor clear protector skin.
I'll try and update on whether this phone dies again or what until I get the new one.
rlod
I tried messing with the battery in a variety of ways for 30 minutes with no sucess. RLOD stayed solid.
RLOD
Holy shoot............After bouncing my battery up and down about 40 times my phone came to life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reseating the battery and/or sim/storage cards is hardly a revolutionary procedure. Its Cellphone 101.
you guys are LIFE SAVERS. I have been on this forum for about a month now and I finally found a reason to post. I haven't posted because I always find my answers. I just wanted to thank everyone, as I have been on the phone with Amazon.com (where i got my tilt), went into an AT&T store and was on the phone with HTC tech support ALL day trying to resolve my red light issue. Unbelievable that all I needed to do was give it some "battery CPR":
UGHHHH. Well i found reason to make post #2. The fix lasted less than 5 minutes.
this did not work for me
These stories remind me off all the bad batteries/no powerup of my Motorola Q and those of others. My mother is on her 4th Q and I know its the battery, but the store just swaps out the whole phone. I've seen batteries last as little at 2 weeks, especially if let run down to empty at any point.
My questions are, is this just a bad battery problem? Does anyone with RLoD have a spare battery to try? If these batteries fail in the shorted condition, will they over draw power from the phone and mess up the charging circuit?
Roto
"Not the Mama", OR, NOT THE BATTERY
rotohammer said:
These stories remind me off all the bad batteries/no powerup of my Motorola Q and those of others. My mother is on her 4th Q and I know its the battery, but the store just swaps out the whole phone. I've seen batteries last as little at 2 weeks, especially if let run down to empty at any point.
My questions are, is this just a bad battery problem? Does anyone with RLoD have a spare battery to try? If these batteries fail in the shorted condition, will they over draw power from the phone and mess up the charging circuit?
Roto
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I certainly don't believe it's a bad battery problem. I had 2 spare batteries, fully charged with separate docking charger - none of the 3 batteries made any difference once I got the RLOD.
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I certainly don't believe it's a bad battery problem. I had 2 spare batteries, fully charged with separate docking charger - none of the 3 batteries made any difference once I got the RLOD.
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Very good, thanks for the insight!
I finished a call yesterday and then dropped my phone on to the pavement cos I was a bit drunk... Anyway this caused my phone to go from working fine (all be it with pants battery life) to just flashing the red light. Fixed it today. I tried the methods prescribed in this thread without success although I did not persevere for very long. I then put a spare battery in to the phonea and bingo the orange light comes on, phone boots up and it's now happilly charging. Note that I charged the old battery for several hours before trying the fix. Pity nobody seems to know what the problem actually is. I wish HTC would let us know....
sWuRv said:
There have been a few other people who have now fixed their RLOD's. Confirmed it was done by messing about with the battery. If you have revived yours, please post your method in here so we can compare them and eventually pinpoint the fix. Thanks.
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I had a similar problem with my old iPAQ hw6515, and a Motorola V3. The contacts on the battery don't spring forward as well on an older phone as they do when it was new. I shimmed the battery. I did this by taking a business card and holding it against the opposite side of the battery from the contacts I traced the battery's profile and cut it out. I scotch taped my new shim to that side of the battery, then re-inserted it. This forces the battery up against the contacts better and in many times resolves inoperable phones, failure to charge, and spontaneous rebooting issues.
-Jay
My replacement tilt (first one had a bad USB connector) died Sunday.
Had it on the charger, looked down, red LED. Back of phone was pretty
warm. Pulled the battery, SIM, memory card, slammed the battery onto the
battery contacts rapidly 5-6 times, put the SIM, memory, battery back into
it, and it charged up. Did a hard reset. Battery was 100% charged, I turned
it completely OFF when I went to bed. Got up, battery was 0% drained!
Red LED again. Did the rapid thingy with the battery again, orange charge
light came on.
Called at&t warranty replacement. When I told her I had a red LED, she didn't
even ask me to do anything else. She just asked for the IMIE number and shipped me another one.
Maybe the 3rd one will be the charm LOL.......
I'm beginning to think that HTC doesn't stand for "high tech computes" but
"high tech CRAP"....
Maybe you guys got the margin of error productions? I know its really unlikely that you could get them again after a replacement but it is possible, and it maybe your computer. What do you think could be making this things go crazy? Overly protective anti-virus, I know, I know but it could do things secretly and screw around like mine does and wont let me into sites I have been on before on the same app no changes . . . Well I hope you luck.
ok I just tried everything you guys said, but it didn't work for me
so as some of you have stated it must be the battery, so what I did is put it between my hands for about 1 minute and put it in and it worked again!
really weird... must be the heat?
well hope that helps the research
Cheers
Jay
Hey guys, I need some help with my G1. I regularly do conditioning for my phone and for some reason, even if my phone has a full charge, it just turns off and I can't turn it back on until I put it on a charger or wait about two hours. Also the phone doesn't give me a notification that it's shutting down. Not sure if this is the right topic to put it in but thanks for the help!
EDIT: I have been using Cyanogen v4.2.13 and I've checked my battery status on my phone and it says that it's in good condition
Ive been having the same problem. Hopefully someone can help us!
me too!
I have this exact problem. I have the latest CyanogenMod - v4.2.13 ROM on my phone. I read somewhere that the auto wallpaper switching apps caused this. But even after uninstalling the app my phone randomly shuts down.
i guess you can try going back to a earlier cyanogen rom or any rom and see if that changes the problem, if not, i guess you can try to wipe, and to the htc recovery and all that and go back to 4.2.13, im still new at this whole thing so its just a thought
Same here
I'm not sure what the deal is. I think that I have dirt in my SD connector or something because mine runs out of memory and reboots sometimes. Other times it works for days. Still other times, it goes into a reboot loop until I take the sd card out and re-seat it.
Perhaps the weak sd connection is the culprit. Are other people keeping the phone in a pocket that generates lint and dust?
Does a battery pull / replace seem to fix the problem?
i keep mine in my front pocket all day everyday lol
I say take a sledgehammer to it, that way it'll die reliably rather than randomly
I reflashed radio, spl, rom, partitioned, wiped, everything! Still shut itself off today. I had to turn it back on with the charger connected to get it back again.
Hey guys, I found the problem. My battery couldn't hold a charge so I would suggest getting a new battery if you had the same problem as I did. Be sure to condition/calibrate it so it'll last longer.
EDIT: Also only put your phone on a charger if the battery is extremely low.
Change Battery
I tried at least 4 different ROMs(with wipe/reset) and it did the same thing. So it's not the software. As a finally test I swapped batteries with my wife (also has a G1). No random shut down on my phone but her phone did. So it's definitely a battery issue. Also, I noticed my battery has swollen quit a bit. New battery on it's way.
So I haven't used my G1 for about 2 years. I recently broke my LG G2X (dropped it at the river) so I started to use my G1 again.
It blows my mind how far Android has came in 2 years...
So anyways, I rooted my phone, running Gingerbread on it and all of that fun stuff.
Two weeks have past and so far nothing was wrong with it but one day my battery drains and then that is when all the problem starts.
It seems the battery wouldn't hold a charge so I bought a new phone off of craigslist ($35 G1) and used the battery on it.
The phone now holds a charge but my phone keeps unrooting itself and I have to re-login to all of my accounts.
Also sometimes when my phone dies the the bootloader screen comes up and it says no image file so I have to reflash it.
I have to do this so often its ridiculous and it seems like the phone only works well when it is charged up to something. What is causing the phone to reset itself?
THANKS GUYS!
Hi, I have a g1 htc I do not charge the battery, a brand that is charging the battery (icon) but also the LED does not load.
will change the spl, you install multiple rom, downgrade, buy another battery, buy another charger does not work.
this will install a brother began froyo 2.2 of cyanomodgen any rom you install 2.2 do not work restarts 30 seconds after turning on the aver over the entire cell. when I bought had the android 2.2 and worked perfect for 7 months
ise superwipe already and also the osakasuperwipe2
please help!
q although I think making you downgrade, something is in memory and do not know how to delete
sefuealcielo said:
Hi, I have a g1 htc I do not charge the battery, a brand that is charging the battery (icon) but also the LED does not load.
will change the spl, you install multiple rom, downgrade, buy another battery, buy another charger does not work.
this will install a brother began froyo 2.2 of cyanomodgen any rom you install 2.2 do not work restarts 30 seconds after turning on the aver over the entire cell. when I bought had the android 2.2 and worked perfect for 7 months
ise superwipe already and also the osakasuperwipe2
please help!
q although I think making you downgrade, something is in memory and do not know how to delete
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None of that stuff you're doing is needed, there's either a hardware defect, or simply the battery is dead and has high wear, which can't be avoided. The wear level rises as you use it and it gets very old...Buy a new bettery that's extended, or get another phone, that's recent to avoid high battery wear.
If I read all this properly, is sounds like you already purchased a new battery and charger, but didn't fix the problem, so like Ace42 mentions, it is probably a hardware problem in your phone preventing the charge.
Check the pins that connect to the battery, and make sure they aren't bent or broken, or maybe some dirt inside the usb connector, otherwise you can pickup a good used Dream/G1 from ebay for US $50 if you watch carefully.
Much less, if you are inclined to taking apart one with a cracked screen and swap parts into yours. (This isn't as easy as it looks from reading the HTC service manual, the parts are much smaller than the pictures, and you need good eyes and careful fingers)
If neither of those is possible, you could always get a "htc g1 desktop charger" from ebay, I have one to keep a spare battery charged for emergencies while i'm away from a power source.
Ace42 said:
None of that stuff you're doing is needed, there's either a hardware defect, or simply the battery is dead and has high wear, which can't be avoided. The wear level rises as you use it and it gets very old...Buy a new bettery that's extended, or get another phone, that's recent to avoid high battery wear.
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I already buy a battery, but still have the same problem, but for me the problem is software and to start doing so since I did a wipe with froyo 2.2 installed and since then stopped working froyo.
Android 2.1 and 1.6 will work great
but when it begins android 2.2 whatever the rom is not working! 30 seconds goes normally and restarts!
i wipe a way to delete everything but everything? and try osakasuperwipe v2
RcklssNdngrmnt said:
If I read all this properly, is sounds like you already purchased a new battery and charger, but didn't fix the problem, so like Ace42 mentions, it is probably a hardware problem in your phone preventing the charge.
Check the pins that connect to the battery, and make sure they aren't bent or broken, or maybe some dirt inside the usb connector, otherwise you can pickup a good used Dream/G1 from ebay for US $50 if you watch carefully.
Much less, if you are inclined to taking apart one with a cracked screen and swap parts into yours. (This isn't as easy as it looks from reading the HTC service manual, the parts are much smaller than the pictures, and you need good eyes and careful fingers)
If neither of those is possible, you could always get a "htc g1 desktop charger" from ebay, I have one to keep a spare battery charged for emergencies while i'm away from a power source.
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I already buy a battery, but still have the same problem, but for me the problem is software and to start doing so since I did a wipe with froyo 2.2 installed and since then stopped working froyo.
Android 2.1 and 1.6 will work great
but when it begins android 2.2 whatever the rom is not working! 30 seconds goes normally and restarts!
i wipe a way to delete everything but everything? and try osakasuperwipe v2
I had the exact same problem and flashed the radio/spl/roms so many times hoping that the problem would be fixed. The last thing I did was to leave the phone charging while it is powered off. 2 hours later, it booted up and the battery level was at 99% percent. I hope that helps you out too.
All this happened just because i was too lazy to charge the phone.
The story is as follows, my friend bought a new phone and was planning on selling his iphone 5, but i told him that id take it so i can try something new(which turned out to be terrible), so since i took the phone from him, i left my rooted + S-OFFed HTC One in my closet for about 3 days without charging it since i was using a different phone so i didnt really care about it, anyway so i came back to the phone after 3 days of empty battery to look at some pictures. I knew that the battery would be dead so i straight away plugged it into the charger, but didnt see any red light, said maybe its just for a bit, 1 hour, 2 hours... still.
Tried the usual stuff like trying to boot it under a bright light, booting it with volume down/up/both, still nothing, so i looked up some solutions online, which were to keep my phone in charger for a few days, which i did, and nothing happened, so i said its time to contact HTC, gave em a call and they told me to do that battery calibration thing where you hold the 2 volume buttons at the same time, but didnt work too so he told me to just send it in, thing is i would of and i dont really care about paying for repairing it, but all my apps,photos,videos are on there.. and who knows what they could do with them, is there any way i could erase the data before sending it to them?
I was thinking of buying a RIFFBOX and trying to fix it myself but i have no idea how to do it, plus its really expensive for something youre not sure is going to work, anyway if you guys have any ideas of what i can do, ill really appreciate them. Maybe i just need to replace the battery ?
Thanks
BigJoey010 said:
All this happened just because i was too lazy to charge the phone.
The story is as follows, my friend bought a new phone and was planning on selling his iphone 5, but i told him that id take it so i can try something new(which turned out to be terrible), so since i took the phone from him, i left my rooted + S-OFFed HTC One in my closet for about 3 days without charging it since i was using a different phone so i didnt really care about it, anyway so i came back to the phone after 3 days of empty battery to look at some pictures. I knew that the battery would be dead so i straight away plugged it into the charger, but didnt see any red light, said maybe its just for a bit, 1 hour, 2 hours... still.
Tried the usual stuff like trying to boot it under a bright light, booting it with volume down/up/both, still nothing, so i looked up some solutions online, which were to keep my phone in charger for a few days, which i did, and nothing happened, so i said its time to contact HTC, gave em a call and they told me to do that battery calibration thing where you hold the 2 volume buttons at the same time, but didnt work too so he told me to just send it in, thing is i would of and i dont really care about paying for repairing it, but all my apps,photos,videos are on there.. and who knows what they could do with them, is there any way i could erase the data before sending it to them?
I was thinking of buying a RIFFBOX and trying to fix it myself but i have no idea how to do it, plus its really expensive for something youre not sure is going to work, anyway if you guys have any ideas of what i can do, ill really appreciate them. Maybe i just need to replace the battery ?
Thanks
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first thing is first, have you tried a differnt charger or lead, there is also an unbrick project you can try here if it is hard bricked, however, it does sound like the battery, not an easy task to change unfortunatly as these are sealed units and once you do get into them, you need to pretty much remove the entire contents of the phone to get at it, motherboard etc, it could also be the micro USB connector, try cleaning it, bits of fluff etc can interfere with the tiny contacts.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2770684
Seanie280672 said:
first thing is first, have you tried a differnt charger or lead, there is also an unbrick project you can try here if it is hard bricked, however, it does sound like the battery, not an easy task to change unfortunatly as these are sealed units and once you do get into them, you need to pretty much remove the entire contents of the phone to get at it, motherboard etc, it could also be the micro USB connector, try cleaning it, bits of fluff etc can interfere with the tiny contacts.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2770684
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yeah tried many different chargers but didnt do anything, also you might be right because the exact same issue happened with my old htc where i rooted it, flashed a custom rom and didnt touch it for like 6 months, so i took out the battery and plugged the charger in it, it didnt boot up but i saw a really dull red light so i said that it might still be alive and its just a battery issue, so yeah i might just replace battery
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yeah tried many different chargers but didnt do anything, also you might be right because the exact same issue happened with my old htc where i rooted it, flashed a custom rom and didnt touch it for like 6 months, so i took out the battery and plugged the charger in it, it didnt boot up but i saw a really dull red light so i said that it might still be alive and its just a battery issue, so yeah i might just replace battery
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Trouble with LiPo batteries, is even when a device dies on battery power, the battery still holds something like 5% charge, they are great and powerful batteries and without them we wouldnt have half the things we have now, but if they drop below that 5% then they are dead dead, and very hard to recover, happens with my radio controlled aeroplanes and heli's, as soon as they start dying, I have to land and charge them, if I keep pushing to the end, they start swelling up and risk them exploding or catching fire, as well as a very expensive crash, same thing for the phones, you can see on youtube how peoples HTC one screens are popping out from the battery swelling up from mis-used batteries.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=h...rs.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D2361932;800;533
very dangerous, this is actually acid gas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5iHZhBjeoY £1000 GBP of helicopter gone, dont use faulty LiPo batteries.