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Red light of death fixed!!! (sticky???)

I think I just figured out how to fix it!!!!!!! I was tinkering around and got my red light brick to turn on!!!! I'm not sure exactly what fixed it so here's everything I did-
1. Removed the storage & sim cards.
2. Took off the backplate.
3. Removed the battery.
4. Bent these 2 pins up a little bit:
5. Put the battery in at an angle, so that the power leads were connected, but the metal shielding plate on the back of the battery was not touching:
6. Hit the power button (with the battery still "halfway" installed) Bam, green light of life.
Somebody please confirm this. Meanwhile I'll be copywriting this process so anyone who performs it owes me 10 bucks

So my replacement Tilt isn't working either, so they're overnighting me a third one. In the meantime, I haven't sent back my original (RLoDed) Tilt, so I thought I'd play around with some of your theories.
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Another thought I had. After the tilt goes into red brick death mode, has anyone tried plugging it into power, battery installed, and then holding down power+camera(all the way) and then pushing in the reset button on the bottom? This may trigger it to go into flash mode - although I kinda doubt it'll work. Worth a shot! Might be able to reflash it back to life! Holding down power and camera while it boots is how you manually force it to get in the Red/Green/Blue firmware flash mode. If it let us do that much when the device bricked we might have a snowball's chance in hell of getting them working. I didn't think of trying it before I returned mine tho. D'oh!
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I didn't know what to try besides installing the battery and SIM card and trying to push down the power, camera, and stylus buttons (I knew I was doing it correctly, because I had to use this to return my second Tilt to factory specs). No response whatsoever! This thing is deader than a doornail. Except for the red LED, of course... that works REALLY well whenever it's plugged in.
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I think I just figured out how to fix it!!!!!!! I was tinkering around and got my red light brick to turn on!!!! I'm not sure exactly what fixed it so here's everything I did-
1. Removed the storage & sim cards.
2. Took off the backplate.
3. Removed the battery.
4. Bent these 2 pins up a little bit:
5. Put the battery in at an angle, so that the power leads were connected, but the metal shielding plate on the back of the battery was not touching:
6. Hit the power button (with the battery still "halfway" installed) Bam, green light of life.
Somebody please confirm this. Meanwhile I'll be copywriting this process so anyone who performs it owes me 10 bucks
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I appreciate your enthusiasm, but the only thing I can confirm is that this did NOT work on my RLoDed Tilt. Tried it several times in various ways. I think you just seriously lucked out!
As such, I'd also have to vote against stickying this... for now.
Best of luck, all... if not actually in fixing your RLoDed Tilts, then definitely in avoiding the $500 service fee if AT&T discovers we voided our warranties.

alright i will confirm this too....my phone was truely RLOD..... i did the same thing that these guys did just jammin the battery in and out and it "jump started the phone"
exact process used
Moto Razr charger
hold down power button
"bounce" battery on and off the contacts for the battery a good 100 times or so
green light apeared after the red light started to flicker a little bit..... tis as if you were giving the phone CPR or something
im not going to call this a fix all i know is that the phone was RLOD and now it is working....battery is at 54% right now and i will post back in a bit to see if it has risen at all....
no smell arising from device
running origional rom but have had other roms on there (alex's)
hard SPL still installed on device
SPB phone suite is the last software that was installed on the device
reg tweaks installed as well, the usual ones no sms, hsdpa enabled blah blah blah
that is about all i can provide....the unit was on the computer overnight charging....when i woke up it was RLOD....and i was sad....i did have the ATT store replace the battery for me as well dunno if that had anything to do with the issue...
in the time that it has taken me to write this the battery is now at 55% so it is charging.....on wall charger with MOTO razr charger
ok lets take a little closer look at what happened within the past little bit....
after gettin the device all up and running it was behaving very oddly.... it would go through multiple attempts to connect to the data network for various reasons....after showing that it was at 55% on the charger it went back down to 54%... i pulled it off the charger and took it into the other room to do something......within 10 min it was down to 46%....now having a data connection my blackberry connect should have a valid network connection....but it did not... not sure why...
the best that i can conclude is that it was trying to connect to so many things all at the same time that it exhausted its self that fast....
so the question is how many people out there that have RLOD are running the BB connect software on there devices and have made REG edits to the data connection time outs and the HSDPA mod availability
editing those settings together may confuse the device and make it think that it has to connect to too many things at one time....
just another thought process that i thought that i would throw out there...
here are some things on the my device that would use the DATA connection and automatically initiate the connection on the device rather than you opening a program forcing it to connect such as Internet explorer
GPS update
HTC home weather tab
SPB weather tab
Blackberry connect
SPB insight....RSS Reader
text messages going in and out....my phone sees quite a few of those
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There have been a few other people who have now fixed their RLOD's. Confirmed it was done by messing about with the battery. If you have revived yours, please post your method in here so we can compare them and eventually pinpoint the fix. Thanks.

i had the same prob..took out the batterly wiped the four contact points on the phone (might of pushed them down or up) and put battery back in and worked..

I believe sWuRv was onto something. My Tilt had the RLOD today. I tried everything, even what he suggested above to no avail. So I called warranty and got my replacement on it's way, express shipping waved and all. So I decided to everything I could think of to try and get the thing back on so I might be able to back up my data again.
I started fooling with the battery, like sWuRv suggested but I moved it all around at 45 degrees or so pushing the power on button. I noticed while it was plugged to the USB with red light on that every now and then the red light would flash when I moved the battery so the contacts moved (while holding the battery at that 45 degrees). I started getting the light to go yellow but it would not stay. So I unplugged from the USB and kept trying it while pushing the power button. It eventually started and I was able to back up to my SD card. One thing I can tell you is that this process caused the phone to get hot and smell like electronics burning a little. There is definitely a power problem inside.
I have no idea how or why this worked but it did. I think I will still take the replacement even though I have to figure out how to swap my fancy invisible armor clear protector skin.
I'll try and update on whether this phone dies again or what until I get the new one.

rlod
I tried messing with the battery in a variety of ways for 30 minutes with no sucess. RLOD stayed solid.

RLOD
Holy shoot............After bouncing my battery up and down about 40 times my phone came to life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reseating the battery and/or sim/storage cards is hardly a revolutionary procedure. Its Cellphone 101.

you guys are LIFE SAVERS. I have been on this forum for about a month now and I finally found a reason to post. I haven't posted because I always find my answers. I just wanted to thank everyone, as I have been on the phone with Amazon.com (where i got my tilt), went into an AT&T store and was on the phone with HTC tech support ALL day trying to resolve my red light issue. Unbelievable that all I needed to do was give it some "battery CPR":

UGHHHH. Well i found reason to make post #2. The fix lasted less than 5 minutes.

this did not work for me

These stories remind me off all the bad batteries/no powerup of my Motorola Q and those of others. My mother is on her 4th Q and I know its the battery, but the store just swaps out the whole phone. I've seen batteries last as little at 2 weeks, especially if let run down to empty at any point.
My questions are, is this just a bad battery problem? Does anyone with RLoD have a spare battery to try? If these batteries fail in the shorted condition, will they over draw power from the phone and mess up the charging circuit?
Roto

"Not the Mama", OR, NOT THE BATTERY
rotohammer said:
These stories remind me off all the bad batteries/no powerup of my Motorola Q and those of others. My mother is on her 4th Q and I know its the battery, but the store just swaps out the whole phone. I've seen batteries last as little at 2 weeks, especially if let run down to empty at any point.
My questions are, is this just a bad battery problem? Does anyone with RLoD have a spare battery to try? If these batteries fail in the shorted condition, will they over draw power from the phone and mess up the charging circuit?
Roto
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I certainly don't believe it's a bad battery problem. I had 2 spare batteries, fully charged with separate docking charger - none of the 3 batteries made any difference once I got the RLOD.

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I certainly don't believe it's a bad battery problem. I had 2 spare batteries, fully charged with separate docking charger - none of the 3 batteries made any difference once I got the RLOD.
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Very good, thanks for the insight!

I finished a call yesterday and then dropped my phone on to the pavement cos I was a bit drunk... Anyway this caused my phone to go from working fine (all be it with pants battery life) to just flashing the red light. Fixed it today. I tried the methods prescribed in this thread without success although I did not persevere for very long. I then put a spare battery in to the phonea and bingo the orange light comes on, phone boots up and it's now happilly charging. Note that I charged the old battery for several hours before trying the fix. Pity nobody seems to know what the problem actually is. I wish HTC would let us know....

sWuRv said:
There have been a few other people who have now fixed their RLOD's. Confirmed it was done by messing about with the battery. If you have revived yours, please post your method in here so we can compare them and eventually pinpoint the fix. Thanks.
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I had a similar problem with my old iPAQ hw6515, and a Motorola V3. The contacts on the battery don't spring forward as well on an older phone as they do when it was new. I shimmed the battery. I did this by taking a business card and holding it against the opposite side of the battery from the contacts I traced the battery's profile and cut it out. I scotch taped my new shim to that side of the battery, then re-inserted it. This forces the battery up against the contacts better and in many times resolves inoperable phones, failure to charge, and spontaneous rebooting issues.
-Jay

My replacement tilt (first one had a bad USB connector) died Sunday.
Had it on the charger, looked down, red LED. Back of phone was pretty
warm. Pulled the battery, SIM, memory card, slammed the battery onto the
battery contacts rapidly 5-6 times, put the SIM, memory, battery back into
it, and it charged up. Did a hard reset. Battery was 100% charged, I turned
it completely OFF when I went to bed. Got up, battery was 0% drained!
Red LED again. Did the rapid thingy with the battery again, orange charge
light came on.
Called at&t warranty replacement. When I told her I had a red LED, she didn't
even ask me to do anything else. She just asked for the IMIE number and shipped me another one.
Maybe the 3rd one will be the charm LOL.......
I'm beginning to think that HTC doesn't stand for "high tech computes" but
"high tech CRAP"....

Maybe you guys got the margin of error productions? I know its really unlikely that you could get them again after a replacement but it is possible, and it maybe your computer. What do you think could be making this things go crazy? Overly protective anti-virus, I know, I know but it could do things secretly and screw around like mine does and wont let me into sites I have been on before on the same app no changes . . . Well I hope you luck.

ok I just tried everything you guys said, but it didn't work for me
so as some of you have stated it must be the battery, so what I did is put it between my hands for about 1 minute and put it in and it worked again!
really weird... must be the heat?
well hope that helps the research
Cheers
Jay

Help! My G1 is dying randomly

Hey guys, I need some help with my G1. I regularly do conditioning for my phone and for some reason, even if my phone has a full charge, it just turns off and I can't turn it back on until I put it on a charger or wait about two hours. Also the phone doesn't give me a notification that it's shutting down. Not sure if this is the right topic to put it in but thanks for the help!
EDIT: I have been using Cyanogen v4.2.13 and I've checked my battery status on my phone and it says that it's in good condition

Ive been having the same problem. Hopefully someone can help us!

me too!
I have this exact problem. I have the latest CyanogenMod - v4.2.13 ROM on my phone. I read somewhere that the auto wallpaper switching apps caused this. But even after uninstalling the app my phone randomly shuts down.

i guess you can try going back to a earlier cyanogen rom or any rom and see if that changes the problem, if not, i guess you can try to wipe, and to the htc recovery and all that and go back to 4.2.13, im still new at this whole thing so its just a thought

Same here
I'm not sure what the deal is. I think that I have dirt in my SD connector or something because mine runs out of memory and reboots sometimes. Other times it works for days. Still other times, it goes into a reboot loop until I take the sd card out and re-seat it.
Perhaps the weak sd connection is the culprit. Are other people keeping the phone in a pocket that generates lint and dust?

Does a battery pull / replace seem to fix the problem?

i keep mine in my front pocket all day everyday lol

I say take a sledgehammer to it, that way it'll die reliably rather than randomly

I reflashed radio, spl, rom, partitioned, wiped, everything! Still shut itself off today. I had to turn it back on with the charger connected to get it back again.

Hey guys, I found the problem. My battery couldn't hold a charge so I would suggest getting a new battery if you had the same problem as I did. Be sure to condition/calibrate it so it'll last longer.
EDIT: Also only put your phone on a charger if the battery is extremely low.

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I tried at least 4 different ROMs(with wipe/reset) and it did the same thing. So it's not the software. As a finally test I swapped batteries with my wife (also has a G1). No random shut down on my phone but her phone did. So it's definitely a battery issue. Also, I noticed my battery has swollen quit a bit. New battery on it's way.

[Solved]Kaiser won't charge past 37% and slide won't register

I think it's my fault because I used my kaiser in moist enviroment. (little rain) Afterwards after sliding I would hear sliding sound few times as if I would quickly slide in/slide out and my keyboard was quickly blinking.
I turned the phone off and let it dry. This fixed the blinking.
But first it went during use from 9x% to 2x% in few seconds, then last 20% drained pretty quickly too. I charged it and it went to 100% then did the quick drop again. I decided I would let it drain completely and then try charging it. Now it charges only until 37%. The charging icon is there in my WinMo, so USB probably works well.
Other than that sliding the phone in or out doesn't register at all in WinMo. I can live with that because I always set winmo to use only landscape orientation anyway. Too bad I don't have autounlock/screen on when sliding out anymore.
So, anyone has an idea how to make the phone behave as it should? I have screwdriver that I used with SPV C600 long time ago and I think it used the same screws, so I can get into my phone if neccessary and if fix is simple enough.

At least try a new battery if you can and see if that corrects the problem. Ironically, though, after one of my HTC's got submerged in water, the battery was the ONLY thing that worked everything else was shot.

Well, my friend has Kaiser as well and I was playing to test out each others battery, but I won't see him until Wednesday or so. Anyway, now it's stuck at 25% max, when it was 37% it lasted for about 2 hours. Even though I was reading e-book and listening to music, writing SMSes and it was on train so it probably often changed the towers. When I could charge it to max it obviously worked a lot longer. I usually charged it once every 2 days.
And I didn't think it was that bad weather. It was just mizzle, if dictionary tells me right, so only keyboard got wet afterwards. I didn't think it would affect insides. Anyway, I'll keep you informed on the experiments after Wednesday. If other battery will work without problem I'll just buy new one.

You are right, It happened to me with my first kaiser. I spilled milk on it and the only thing that worked after was the battery
chambo622 said:
At least try a new battery if you can and see if that corrects the problem. Ironically, though, after one of my HTC's got submerged in water, the battery was the ONLY thing that worked everything else was shot.
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Kaiser dying very slowly
Areinu said:
Well, my friend has Kaiser as well and I was playing to test out each others battery, but I won't see him until Wednesday or so. Anyway, now it's stuck at 25% max, when it was 37% it lasted for about 2 hours. Even though I was reading e-book and listening to music, writing SMSes and it was on train so it probably often changed the towers. When I could charge it to max it obviously worked a lot longer. I usually charged it once every 2 days.
And I didn't think it was that bad weather. It was just mizzle, if dictionary tells me right, so only keyboard got wet afterwards. I didn't think it would affect insides. Anyway, I'll keep you informed on the experiments after Wednesday. If other battery will work without problem I'll just buy new one.
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Ok, I tested it just now.
I charged my phone overnight. It was 25% when I woke, 8% when I got to my friend. I put my battery into his phone. It showed 90%.
My friend's battery was at 80%. Put into mine it showed 1%.
So it seems my phone can now see only last 20% or so of the battery. It's... not good. It means I have to fix the phone somehow. Now any ideas how? Later today I'll open it and try to find things out of ordinary and I'll make photos of them if I won't know what to do.

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Ok, I tested it just now.
I charged my phone overnight. It was 25% when I woke, 8% when I got to my friend. I put my battery into his phone. It showed 90%.
My friend's battery was at 80%. Put into mine it showed 1%.
So it seems my phone can now see only last 20% or so of the battery. It's... not good. It means I have to fix the phone somehow. Now any ideas how? Later today I'll open it and try to find things out of ordinary and I'll make photos of them if I won't know what to do.
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Try to clean your battery terminals and see if that can help... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358136

I tried cleaning terminals before, didn't help. But I did thing described in 1st post of that thread. Today my battery maxed out at 12% no matter how long I would charge. The thing at first post made 45% detectable, which... is at least much better than 12%. Or 25%. Or 37%.
I've tried getting into the Kaiser yesterday but the screw under the speaker is stuck and halfway stripped and I had no luck trying to unscrew it. But it might not be necessary after all, if the method from that post helped in getting to 45% then maybe playing with the battery more will help. There's more methods in that thread, I'll try them out later.
Well, thanks a lot for the link. Now I'm getting hope back

Ok, here's the update.
Now the phone is running at about 32% juice max and no matter how I play with the battery it won't go above 32%.
When it's on 1% it lasts on it for quite a long time. Like 20-30 minutes. Then the phone turns off.
When I try to turn on the phone then it goes trough the screen with radio etc. then htc logo and turns off when windows would have started. No matter how many times I try to turn it on then it will do it like that. So, my theory is windows has some kind of energy saving feature that makes it turn off when it detects it's like 0.5%. I wonder if there was a way to make windows not turn off no matter what and if then maybe I could use 100% of the battery even if 68% of it would be on 1%. Of course it's just my idea and might not work. I don't know how kaiser checks the amount of power left and if my kaiser can get power from the whole battery even if it can't measure it well.
I wonder if android might work well?
I'm thinking about software solution because I can't go trough the broken screw below the speaker. I went to a shop to see if brand new screwdriver would manage to unscrew it, but even it slipped out(new screwdrivers are usually not curved at the edges so sometimes they work). I have no idea how to remove the screw.
Ah, when it turned off and it was turning off at windows I played with the battery and managed to turn it on with 3%. Well, even with additional 3% it was only like 3.5 hours of use at most from 32% I had at the begining.
So to sum it up:
do you think a software solution is possible?
do you have any ideas how to get rid of that screw without damaging the phone?

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do you think a software solution is possible?
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Not if it's a hardware problem causing all the symptoms. Besides, you wouldn't be able to flash with less than 50% battery charge registered (don't know if microSD card flashing has this requirement as well but I wouldn't do that anyway).
do you have any ideas how to get rid of that screw without damaging the phone?
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Your comment earlier about screwdriver edges being rounded off makes me wonder if you're using the right screwdriver to begin with. You do realise they're torx screws which are meant to be removed with special Torx screwdrivers don't you? If you have failed using the correct tool for the job then you could either try glueing the driver into the screw head and letting it set for a couple of days (being very careful not to get any gue anywhere else other than inside the screw head cavity). There are also devices called screw extractors or easy outs which require the head of the screw to be drilled down the middle first. I've used this technique with success in the past on a much bigger scale but I don't know if they go down small enough in size to suit these phone screws - you might want to talk with a jeweler to see what your options are. You'd also need to tape a plastic bag all around the screw to protect the rest of the phone from swarf if this method is possible/necessary. I think the phone is going to need opening up to get to the bottom of the problem as my first thought of cleaning the battery terminals has already been tried (assuming you did it thoroughly with some contact cleaner on the end of a cotton bud).

Flying Kiwi said:
Your comment earlier about screwdriver edges being rounded off makes me wonder if you're using the right screwdriver to begin with. You do realise they're torx screws which are meant to be removed with special Torx screwdrivers don't you? If you have failed using the correct tool for the job then you could either try glueing the driver into the screw head and letting it set for a couple of days (being very careful not to get any gue anywhere else other than inside the screw head cavity). There are also devices called screw extractors or easy outs which require the head of the screw to be drilled down the middle first. I've used this technique with success in the past on a much bigger scale but I don't know if they go down small enough in size to suit these phone screws - you might want to talk with a jeweler to see what your options are. You'd also need to tape a plastic bag all around the screw to protect the rest of the phone from swarf if this method is possible/necessary. I think the phone is going to need opening up to get to the bottom of the problem as my first thought of cleaning the battery terminals has already been tried (assuming you did it thoroughly with some contact cleaner on the end of a cotton bud).
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I know about torx screwdrivers and I removed all Torx screws I had to go with, but under the speaker is single cross screw meant to be removed with Thompson screwdriver. If you look into confidential service manual(this forum links in few places to it ) it tells you you need few screwdrivers for the job. Well, I assumed those extractors that require drilling the screw are mostly for bigger ones, like in cars etc. This one is pretty small. But I'll try with the glue, it's probably big enough for glue to catch on without me gluing the screw to the phone which would be a disaster.
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Not if it's a hardware problem causing all the symptoms. Besides, you wouldn't be able to flash with less than 50% battery charge registered (don't know if microSD card flashing has this requirement as well but I wouldn't do that anyway).
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It's why I suggested Android. With haret you don't have to flash to boot it. And I actually did it and am trying to run out of the juice since yesterday(Wifi always on etc). While WinMO says it's 3% android says it's 30%, and it goes down slowly like hell. But it's for sure hardware problem so I can't see why android would be able to use whole battery -.-; I am trying to get phone to lose all energy, then I'll see how high it will charge on android(for now it didn't charge past about 50% but as I said it goes down very slowly).
As for flashing, it usually doesn't take that long at 50% figure is just for safety. But before attempting to flash I would start with hard reset, probably would fix most of things flashing would.
Anyway, as for the screw, it's easter and I'm at family house, I didn't take my tools or anything so it will have wait till I'm back.

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I know about torx screwdrivers and I removed all Torx screws I had to go with, but under the speaker is single cross screw meant to be removed with Thompson screwdriver.
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Sorry, mine has the Void sticker over it and I just assumed it was Torx like the rest.
It's why I suggested Android. With haret you don't have to flash to boot it.
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You'd still need a reliable boot loader to load anything though and from the sounds of it, you don't have that.
But it's for sure hardware problem so I can't see why android would be able to use whole battery -.-;
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I can't see why Android would offer a 'solution' given it's a hardware problem which presented itself after your phone was rained on.
As for flashing, it usually doesn't take that long at 50% figure is just for safety.
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The flashing program wouldn't let me progress when I tried it once before and although the flashing process is much shorter than it would normally take to use 50% of your batteries power, the current consumed during the process is higher than during normal operation and it's important that the voltages don't dip below acceptable values when writing to the EEPROM/Flash Memory. Much better to start by fixing the hardware issue and then sorting out any possible corruption in the EEPROM afterwards once the battery is fully charged.

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Sorry, mine has the Void sticker over it and I just assumed it was Torx like the rest.
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Oh, I had Void sticker there too. It's Torx as well. Once you remove big piece of plastic under that(to that piece is attached the speaker) you have access to new screw and it's not Torx anymore.
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You'd still need a reliable boot loader to load anything though and from the sounds of it, you don't have that.
I can't see why Android would offer a 'solution' given it's a hardware problem which presented itself after your phone was rained on.
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Well, I don't really know how the Kaiser works but my theory is the method it determines how much energy is left differs a bit from how it drains energy. Desktop Windows on laptops have a feature when on ~3% energy left they hibernate "to prevent possible loss of data". When on Kaiser Windows ran out of juice I could turn the phone as many times as I wanted and it would turn once on windows, so I made a hipothesis that Kaiser CAN use rest of the battery but it just can't measure how much is left. Well, it's from all the tests I made as well.
Somewhere under keyboard the rain must have gotten on onto something that measures energy and shortcuted it, or I don't know, made electrons jump between 2 things that it shouldn't, that are used to measure power left? It's more of intuition than real reasoning, I know.
Anyway I let android run out of energy and once it got to 1% and showed "no battery" icon it ran for 6 hours more on WiFi, GPS and 3G turned on(I don't know if GPS worked, I was inside whole time). Windows mobile even without WiFi, GPS and 3G never even lasted 6h since the rain broke kaiser. Futhermore I had screen turned on most of the time(I wanted to get power down quickly, plus I wanted to see what's new on the android). The phone got hot from WiFi usage, so I guess it was draining some energy at least to make heat
Finally the phone turned off(android showed me turning off animation so it somehow predicted it's the end of the line). When trying to turn off kaiser afterwards it wouldn't budge so I think I really made it go out of the energy.
When I was interested in android when first version emerged I recall reading that android can show energy wrong and to fix it one was supposed to use up all energy, then to charge it to max. Well, as I managed to drain my battery fully I charged android and now it maxed out at 76%.
One more thing about android trough haret - you boot into Windows mobile that you have, then from microSD you run haret.exe that turns off winmo and boots linux. It mounts all files needed on microSD so there's no permanent changes, and no need to do anything to bootloader. I booted into Windows mobile to check percentage there and it sees 63%. Android still has 76%.
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The flashing program wouldn't let me progress when I tried it once before and although the flashing process is much shorter than it would normally take to use 50% of your batteries power, the current consumed during the process is higher than during normal operation and it's important that the voltages don't dip below acceptable values when writing to the EEPROM/Flash Memory. Much better to start by fixing the hardware issue and then sorting out any possible corruption in the EEPROM afterwards once the battery is fully charged.
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Well, good thing is I don't have to flash the mobile to run android then. I didn't know about the currents but it makes a lot of sense when one thinks about it. I never had below 70% when changing roms just in case.
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Much better to start by fixing the hardware issue and then sorting out any possible corruption in the EEPROM afterwards once the battery is fully charged.
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Yup, but I'm trying to make energy level at least acceptable while my actions shouldn't break anything. After all I'm not making any permanent changes on the Kaiser, just changing files on the microSD. I can't do anything to the hardware at least till Wednesday anyway.
Update: Ok, today I let it go out of all power again and afterwards the phone wouldn't charge no matter what. I know that sometimes one has to charge about 30 minutes before anything happens, but I kept it 2 hours, tried charger, then USB and even orange diode wouldn't light up. I thought that maybe battery broke.
I tried cleaning up connectors of the battery and graysh-silverish something appeared on them. Cleaning it up didn't help at all. I looked at USB port in my Kaiser under flashlight and from what I could see connectors weren't bent or anything. I tried (without using force) to push usb in to the limit. Didn't help.
Well, I wanted to check if maybe battery was at fault. I took out the battery and then put usb in, then tried pressing power and green diode lighted up. When afterward I put the battery in the orange diode normally lighted up and the battery charged, the windows mobile turned on and it showed about 1%.
Well, I guess using Kaiser at all might be a little dangerous for it untill insides are fixed, so I'll wait until I can unscrew that screw with glue. Anyway, this information might help someone understand what's happening, it's just simply bizzare for me.

Wednesday. I tried getting rid of the screw again. Failed. But I got inside. I realized(and called myself an idiot over and over again) that the screw only held that small board next to sound controller connected to phone, but I could still proceed to open it. Anyway, I got inside.
I looked around for things out of ordinary. There was some dust here and there, but nothing serious. Except for this:
What, wait, isn't that mold? It seems like it is... Well, I cleaned it all off. Furthermore I got rid of most of the dust, as I was inside already, checked connections here and there. General maintenance.
After turning on the phone:
- Slide in/Slide off works
- WinMo showed 77% and it's probably right. I charged it fully on android then used for enough time to get ~25% down.
After using it for a bit the phone froze. I restarted it and WinMo was showing 3%. I realized I didn't press the casing to the keyboard hard enough so there might have been some elements loose. Another restart and it shows 76% again. Well, let's see how far it will charge.
Update: It charged with normal speed to 100%, and both WinMo and android agreed on it. Case solved, I guess.

HTC HD2 (o2) extended battery (anyone got it, really need help)

Has anyone brought the extended battery for there 02 HTC HD2 phone. i have just brought mine, and i cant get the thing to charge up in my phone. i have tried using the battery in my mates phone and it works fine no problem, its charges up using both our leads, but as i soon as i put it in mine, it doesn't charge, and i get a orange then green light flash every 3 secs.
Firstly i want to know if anyone else has the extended battery working in there phone??
and secondly after speaking to HTC, they said try doing the rom update and see if that works, if not then it may be a case the o2 branded phones cannot charge the phone due to software etc. is that even possible??
any Help is much appreciated,
kind regards
Shane

Funny you should mention this Shane, last week I bought the extended battery with kickstand cover and had the same "unable to charge" problem with the lights flashing green and amber.
I've sent the battery back and should get a replacement in the next day or two.
I've also upgraded to the latest stock O2 ROM from HTC's site in the mean time, so I'll let yo know how I get on when the new battery comes (it had better be here before the end of the week as I'm away for 2 weeks, hence the need for the battery!).
Of course if the new battery works, then I won't be able to say if the ROM fixed it or not, but it'd be worth applying it anyway if the battery does work.

i am at this exact moment doing the update as we speak, so i will be able to tell you if that works, but i cant see how o2 branded phone could really stop the device from using the extended battery, because after being on the phone to a very helpful guy at HTC he did say if this doesn't work, then it could be that 02 have done something to stop the extended battery from charging. but i cant see how, and see if its even possible, software blocking hardware from charging??
Edited, oh i forgot to mentioned i tried the exact same battery in my mates phone, which is bog standard HTC not branded, and it worked fine in his phone, charged no problem with both my cables and his, but as soon as i tried it in mine, it didn't work. so that would suggest that maybe its the o2 branded phones??

Woop woop it works, i have no idea why, but updating the ROM made it work. So it was never the battery it was the phone, im so happy I've been trying for the last 2 weeks non stop trying to get the thing to work or find out why it wasn't working but its all charging fine now =]

That's a really interesting one!
I do have a laptop at home where the battery will only charge until Windows starts, then it stops charging, so software can affect the ability to charge.
Definitely one for the hints and tips section!
Pesky O2 eh?
It could be that their modification of the ROM messed up the charging tables or whatever is used to work out how much charge is left in the battery, and the latest ROM fixes this.
Just off the top of my head, could it be that with a certain charge rate, it expects the battery to fill up at a set rate, and with it being twice the capacity it's charging half as quickly so throws up an error?
So the phone is saying "I know I'm getting 1A in, so the battery should be at 40%, 44%, 48%, 52%, but hang on, it's actually at 40%, 41%, 42%, something's wrong, best start flashing those lights!"

no problems with my extended battery on my o2 hd2 although.the last time it ran a stock o2 rom was about 2 weeks after i got it and that was in november LOL.

I have exactly the same problem. Lights are flashing and after about 15 hrs of continuous charging the battery state said 85%. I have contacted HTC support but no reply yet. Phone is O2 branded unlocked to all networks.

It's a documented issue with the HD2 and older ROMS. Please update your roms to the latest builds available or go the cutom rom route and it'll work like it's supposed to.
FOR REFERENCE ONLY: (Your Device might not support this ROM) http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=2&dl_id=856
Check out Point #2 under Improved Functions
BTW, this needs to be in the Accessories section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=689067
Two threads for the same problem? You could have just bumped the other one.

Thank you man! I have done the upgrade and everything works as it should. I also received a reply from HTC support saying to return tha battery to my retailer and buy a different one... So they obviously don't have a clue..

Looking for a Ext battery with a regular cover
any with 1400 or 1500 - usa site
thanks

[Q] Note Died, What the heck? *Detailed*

Hello, I first wish to say that I did a basic search and didnt find any info. maybe I searched wrong since this is first time this has happend to a phone I know of.
second I don't have time to do a full extensive search, sorry if it looks like I didnt search but I did.
Anyways here to the problem:
What happend? Well the Note just died. from simple usage. the screen is all black, won't boot at all, can't even see any lights. (Got Desire HD, Tho I don't remember this phone had a charging/signal light, but I believe it has)
The Note is my mothers so she wanted me to look at it.
There were no problems during flash or, rather it wasnt me who flashed it. but got it pre-flashed of tradera (part of ebay) and nothing was wrong besides old rom, was waiting for full drivers ICS since I havn't seen one for the N7000 so I havn't flashed a ICS rom since my mother needs the most support but anyway
I tried taking the battery of and putting it back again (Fixes 90% of my problems!), I tried fail-safe booting it. I am kinda stumped on what to do, so if know whats the problem and if its a cheap one I will be happy to do it. hopefully its not a motherboard replacement... :-( then I will cry...
Edit:
It turns out it started working with 25% battery after being having battery taken out for 1 hour, and was in the wall socketed charger for 7 hours. YAY!

So it just died in middle of using it normally?
You didn't do any wipes or such in recovery and then it didn't start after that?
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I am not sure there is enough detail here to be able to help. But if it does not go to download mode with the usual ways or with a USB jig, then it will need to go to samsung repair centre, or you could try to JTAG first.
But if it is a result of a bad bootloader flash, then JTAG might work. If its due to a bad ICS kernel flash, then motherboard replacement is most likely.
Hope it works out.

First of All, it doesn't have ICS yet. (since i havnt found a good kies ICS yet that everything works on yet, havnt checked the past few weeks)
Second, it died in standby mode, during work when she was gonna take a picture for her work (she has card that allows usage of camera during work place in volvo)
Third, it wasnt during flash or anything. I will have to check the phone with shidapu when he wakes up... ARGH HIM! for not having normal mornings where you wake up around 6 or 7am...
I believe it didn't die during middle of usage but when the phone was in power save or whatever its called when the screen is black and not phone in use but in operations
I guess JTAG is the only option, but how does that work exactly, if possible please do link
because my computer can't even see the note when I am connected to it with USB. can the battery died? since I don't know if the note can be powered up without battery. *tried connecting without battery but no luck :/

Try to remove the battery for a couple of minutes and then insert it again and connect the wall socket charger and wait up to one hour. The Note has a charging animation but if the battery is totally drained i think it won't show directly.
If you having troubles finding another battery to test with you can always come by Astra in Mölndal and try mine as i see that you are living in Gothenburg.
Jtag is a service in that someone solders small cables to the mainboard and reflashes the bootloader on a low level. But this is only if you know that you have failed a flash or such, don't think this is the case here.
I did send a SGS2 to mobiletechvideos in Texas for that service, and i really do recommend them and thier great service.
Good luck.

qsec said:
Try to remove the battery for a couple of minutes and then insert it again and connect the wall socket charger and wait up to one hour. The Note has a charging animation but if the battery is totally drained i think it won't show directly.
If you having troubles finding another battery to test with you can always come by Astra in Mölndal and try mine as i see that you are living in Gothenburg.
Jtag is a service in that someone solders small cables to the mainboard and reflashes the bootloader on a low level. But this is only if you know that you have failed a flash or such, don't think this is the case here.
I did send a SGS2 to mobiletechvideos in Texas for that service, and i really do recommend them and thier great service.
Good luck.
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if shidapu can't fix it that is (irl mate of Shidapu) he know a bit more than me about Droids
sadly don't have have a extra battery I believe, but I do what you said, I will pull the battery off for now, and when I see the phone next time I will put it in and wait a hour. if all above fail, I might P.M. you that i might be visiting you =)
edit, connected to a wall socket, does it make any differs if I use my HTC wall socket charger?

umm..mind if i say something....?
well u can use any charger since u need to give charge to the battery.. but recommended is charger for note.
Next i had a problem with my battery as well. try to put the phone on charging (there ain't any charging light on this phone ) but you'll see an animation of battery. if it shows up don't worry your phones safe but not the battery but if it doesn't then i think there's some problem with the bootloader or the kernal ...

Hiya guys, after having the Note on charger for like who knows 7 hours or so...
I actually could boot it! YAY! got into the droid as usual.
But there is one wrong thing... it says 25% battery left. orange...
now it says 26% =)
Well I guess I have to reset the state of the battery? (battery-memory wipe or whatever its called?) if thats possible, if so is just simple CWM? (does Note even use CWM?, I am a HTC user and it wasnt me who rooted that device as I mentioned earlier so I dunno what recovery software there is for samsung)
Well Anyways, might be just some faulty battery. guess I have to order a new one if it does it again.

maybe u should take the battery off the phone for a while and try to charge it without booting the device . maybe then it will work fine. just do it three or four times whenever you charge your battery. this way the battery will charge efficiently without it's use on the phone... i hope you got it since i am not able to type well today as i am right now a lil bit anxious about my notes problem

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maybe u should take the battery off the phone for a while and try to charge it without booting the device . maybe then it will work fine. just do it three or four times whenever you charge your battery. this way the battery will charge efficiently without it's use on the phone... i hope you got it since i am not able to type well today as i am right now a lil bit anxious about my notes problem
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I believe i mentioned it started working. Charging it after removed battery for a hour or so fixed it. took a long time tho, 7 hours for 25% full battery. (26% short after, well samsung are known for their extreme long battery load times... galaxy tab 10.1... that was a device that took over 2 hours to charge...)

It might need a new battery.

The same thing happened to my Note yesterday. It was last charged on Saturday and, with light use, after three days it still had around 50% battery charge remaining when I went to bed on Tuesday night. Yesterday (Wednesday) morning I tried to wake the Note and it was completely dead. Of course I did not expect a flat battery, given the usual discharge performance of my Note. I removed and replaced the battery and hit various buttons and absolutely zip. I connected the charger and again no response. Nothing lit, no beep, nothing.
It's probably worth mentioning that I'm on the latest stock Samsung ROM and unrooted. I really thought it was FUBAR and would need to be sent off for repair. Anyway, I do have a jig so I plugged that in and the screen woke up, so I knew there was some sign of life. But still it would not boot.
Anyway, to cut the story short the battery was as dead as a dodo. I don't know why. It should not have been. I left it on charge from the AC charger and after a short while (a minute or two maybe) the charging symbol appeared with a hazard triangle upon it. It took over 4 hours to finally make it to a fully swollen 100%. The phone is almost exactly six months old and this is the first real scare I've had with it.
I only bore you with the tale because it might give hope to people who think their phone is bricked when the fact is that nothing worse has happened than the battery has gone (unexpectedly) very flat. Right now, 27 hours after I finished fully charging it the battery is down to 92%. That's the sort of performance I am used to. I will leave it without further charge for another few days to see if a similar thing happens again. Hopefully not.

yes i know u said that it started working. What i am saying is that whenever u want ur phone to charge switch it off and then charge(this way it will charge efficiently) . just follow it 3-4 time when u charge it and your battery will be on the right track(i hope that works). my note takes upto 1.3 hour (nearly) to charge completely from 10%. and when it's switched off it does the same in 45 minutes... what a difference!!!
try it and if it works for u then this way would be a best alternative to replace battery for charging issue (of course if ur device is still under warranty you should opt for a replacement).