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Ok I'm really frustrated with this.
On 2.1 eclair the youtube app only streams in HQ, not HD.
I updated to 2.2 and even installed the newer YT ported over from gingerbread and it STILL only streams in HQ, not HD.
WHY??? Why does google not want us to stream in HD? YT is like my favourite app yet you can't stream in HD even over WIFI. Even the iphone 4 can stream youtube in HD.
Second of all, what's with people confusing HD and HQ? Looking through posts online people seem to mistakenly say you can stream in HD when in reality they mean HQ. Do people not see the difference? It's night and day....
of course it can
just click the HD button and it will display in HD if the stream is has a higher resolution file to display
is there something I'm missing then?
I've tried many videos that have HD (on computer) on my phone and it's only HQ.
THe quality difference is noticeable.
Because it makes no sense streaming in hd on 800x480 screen unless you have set-up for hd tv output. And as far I know your galaxy sh*t ( ;-) ) can't do that. And if it could, the YT app would allow you to do that.
There is no difference between 480p and 720p on your phone. Go ahead and try it, download an yt video in both variants and see! Apparently the only difference would be in 1080p, where the audio quality would be greater, but practically, just a waste of battery and server time and... everything.
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And ye forgot, even then the videos should be optimized for that, the channel should be YouTube partner and ye, optimized for mobile. I think some videos shot in 720p with smartphones and directly uploaded to yt allow that.
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in the vibrant forum, they hacked a Froyo version of the new YouTube app, you can try that and see if you get better quality.
aside that, there are many other better 3rd party apps that can download & stream video from youtube site on HD
just type in the name of the video you want to watch and it goes straight in HD
like Tube-Mate for YouTube
i made that as my default youtube app
there is also another one that also always plays/downloads only HD versions like Tube-Mate for YouTube, but forgot the name of that other app
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Because it makes no sense streaming in hd on 800x480 screen unless you have set-up for hd tv output. And as far I know your galaxy sh*t ( ;-) ) can't do that. And if it could, the YT app would allow you to do that.
There is no difference between 480p and 720p on your phone. Go ahead and try it, download an yt video in both variants and see! Apparently the only difference would be in 1080p, where the audio quality would be greater, but practically, just a waste of battery and server time and... everything.
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Umm no.
I'm not one for all the technical details on what the phone can or can't display but there is a CLEAR difference when it comes to streaming youtube. HD vids I load on my phone are CRISP. So-called HD on youtube when streamed on the SGS is not even near crisp, while on the iphone (my sister has one) it is crisp.
A VERY good example is this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdtejCR413c
using the youtube app on the phone, if you search up "lebron commercial" and stream it in "HQ" note the quality. Then use Tube Mate another app to download the video in 720p quality and watch it on your video player.
HUGE difference in quality. It's noticeable.
I'm sorry but I don't understand how people can not notice the quality difference. HQ and HD is a big difference. I've never streamed an HD youtube video and had it appear sharp on my phone. The words HQ appear at the top and the lower quality is definitely noticeable.
AllGamer said:
in the vibrant forum, they hacked a Froyo version of the new YouTube app, you can try that and see if you get better quality.
aside that, there are many other better 3rd party apps that can download & stream video from youtube site on HD
just type in the name of the video you want to watch and it goes straight in HD
like Tube-Mate for YouTube
i made that as my default youtube app
there is also another one that also always plays/downloads only HD versions like Tube-Mate for YouTube, but forgot the name of that other app
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hey just wondering, I used Tube-Mate but even when streaming that lebron commercial it only shows up as HQ, not HD.
If I download it with Tube-mate in 720p and watch it in video player, THEN it's in HD....
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Umm no.
I'm not one for all the technical details on what the phone can or can't display but there is a CLEAR difference when it comes to streaming youtube. HD vids I load on my phone are CRISP. So-called HD on youtube when streamed on the SGS is not even near crisp, while on the iphone (my sister has one) it is crisp.
A VERY good example is this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdtejCR413c
using the youtube app on the phone, if you search up "lebron commercial" and stream it in "HQ" note the quality. Then use Tube Mate another app to download the video in 720p quality and watch it on your video player.
HUGE difference in quality. It's noticeable.
I'm sorry but I don't understand how people can not notice the quality difference. HQ and HD is a big difference. I've never streamed an HD youtube video and had it appear sharp on my phone. The words HQ appear at the top and the lower quality is definitely noticeable.
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This is a function of the Youtube app itself and NOT something merely SGS related. Want to get mad about it...Write google. This occurs on all android phones running the Youtube app...
video quality difference is definitely there
the problem comes with the 3G/3.5G speeds
HD plays fine on WiFi, but not on 3.5G (HSPDA)
masterotaku said:
This is a function of the Youtube app itself and NOT something merely SGS related. Want to get mad about it...Write google. This occurs on all android phones running the Youtube app...
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I realize that. I did ask why wont google let us stream in HD.
AllGamer said:
video quality difference is definitely there
the problem comes with the 3G/3.5G speeds
HD plays fine on WiFi, but not on 3.5G (HSPDA)
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HD plays fine on WIFI for you?
seriously?
errr I can't possibly have a worse YT app then yours, mine is 2.0.26.
The button says HQ, not HD at the top of the video.
As mentioned, if I stream it's high quality, but not sharp.
Use Tube-Mate to download same vid in 720p, then watch in video player = HD quality and very very sharp.
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I realize that. I did ask why wont google let us stream in HD.
HD plays fine on WIFI for you?
seriously?
errr I can't possibly have a worse YT app then yours, mine is 2.0.26.
The button says HQ, not HD at the top of the video.
As mentioned, if I stream it's high quality, but not sharp.
Use Tube-Mate to download same vid in 720p, then watch in video player = HD quality and very very sharp.
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Well it's probably due to the carriers. If you were a carrier with a 3G network would you want to stream 480p or 720p video to phones with 480p resolutions??
It makes sense for the carriers, so it probably made sense to Google as well.
There are also QOS (Quality Of Service) issues to consider. It's safe to say that google and your carrier cannot reliably guarantee that you could have the bandwidth via 3g/3.5g to always and reliably be able to stream HD video. Users in this scenario would likely make the mistake of blaming the carrier, google and youtube for making a crap system and crap app, rather than making the reasoned leap that perhaps the network isn't always going to be up to the task. It's best to impose a limitation few would complain out, to guarantee more reliable service and a more reliable perception of that service for everyone.
In my experience the difference in quality between streamed and directly downloaded (and higher resolution) video is minimal, and usually dependent on the source material as well as how old the youtube video is..
But you can directly download them with apps like Tube Mate....so I'm unsure of the problem, other than it merely being a lack of patience. But if patience is the issue(due to the amount of time it takes), it'd likely have trouble streaming in a timely manner anyway.
yeah I'm aware of the amount of bandwidth required to stream HD over 3G but that's not my concern. My concern is over WIFI because I can't seem to stream in HD over WIFI. There are people here saying they can stream HD through WIFI (not sure if it's more confusion with HQ and HD) but there DEFINITELY is no option to stream in HD through wifi for my youtube app, which is the latest one (the eclaire 2.1 app wasn't able to either).
I can only stream in HQ, not HD. The quality diff is noticeable. That lebron james commercial I posted is a very good example. Just dl it with tube-mate in 720p and watch it. Compare the quality with streaming the same video in "HQ" on the youtube app...big difference. I don't get why we can't even stream in HD through WIFI?
I also don't get why some people are saying they CAN stream in HD....
Unless for some reason my youtube app is gimped (highly doubt it), these people are still mistaking HQ for HD...
and yes the whole point of youtube is to stream, so of course I would want to stream in HD. Why would I want to have to search up the video, then download it, then watch it. That's not how youtube is supposed to work....
again bandwidth/speed isn't an issue since I'm on WIFI
sorry just had to get this off my chest.
Just an update.
I found what appears to be the best app to stream HD youtube vids.
It's JetVD, available for free from the market.
It streams 720p PERFECTLY. That lebron commercial above is crystal clear.
If you choose mp4 high quality, you get the same quality as what the youtube app streams. You can also download if you want.
I love the YT interface and being able to view my account, my favourites, see related videos...etc.
I guess I'l have to use both and switch to JetVD to stream 720p.
Shame for some reason Google decided to gimp the YT app (even on WIFI).
+1 for JetVD
Been using it since Hero days, used to let me download while streaming another video, or download multiple videos at once, but the most recent updates are missing this useful ability.
Still, its free and works great for viewing HD and saving them to ur phone for offline use as well!
i have jetVD installed too
still can't decide which one is better
Anyone have a link to a semi-small 720P video that is verfied to work on the Nook?
I need a video that works for some testing I am doing.
Thanks!
dalingrin said:
Anyone have a link to a semi-small 720P video that is verfied to work on the Nook?
I need a video that works for some testing I am doing.
Thanks!
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If I grab one tonight (a NC) then i will put up a clip of a 50GB to 3GB movie clip. been converting my blu-rays lol. the clip will be about 500MB and on megaupload so u can get it pretty fast the quality will equal insane if its like what works on my droid at 2000kbps. EDIT: I believe the NC hardware can only play 854x480?
reaverclan said:
If I grab one tonight (a NC) then i will put up a clip of a 50GB to 3GB movie clip. been converting my blu-rays lol. the clip will be about 500MB and on megaupload so u can get it pretty fast the quality will equal insane if its like what works on my droid at 2000kbps. EDIT: I believe the NC hardware can only play 854x480?
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Correct. Anything above 480p and/or in a format other than mp4 cannot be hardware decoded.
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dalingrin said:
Anyone have a link to a semi-small 720P video that is verfied to work on the Nook?
I need a video that works for some testing I am doing.
Thanks!
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go to youtube, find a video you want, copy and past the link into keepvid.com
You can download it in 480p, 720p, or 1080p, depending on the original video.
Here's a channel to get you started: www.youtube.com/ijustine
Hi
Sorry if I posted in wrong place.
I just bought Samsung galaxy sl with super clear lcd. I am facing some major issues with playback of high definition videos in mp4 format. The default video player in my phone is not supporting the playback of high definition mp4 videos. I tried downloading at least 6-7 different video players from the android market but again facing problems. Some of the players like rockplayer and V player are able to play the same video but at a very very slow frame rate. The sound is alright but video playback is very poor with extremely slow frame rate. Its as if the video is being played in slow motion. The sound comes earlier whereas the video playback falls behind with slow framerate.
So any idea how I could play hi-definition videos is my galaxy s 4gb lcd version ?
Thanx
Stock player plays 720p easily
Ders also a Summer Player wic i like
Rock Player hs sound issues in mine...
Yes this sucks really. I have both galaxy s and sl
And s play unconverted mkv flawlessly where my sl have lag on it and also I need market play. I hope any developer modified sl player codec with original S model.
I know our sl have good gpu n cpu to run hd unconverted movie.
I hope some one will modify default play and ported S player to our phone. Like touchwiz 4.
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The stock player is able to play 720p if I convert it to .avi
But mp4 is not running. I tried a lot of players from Market but to no avail.
Was not expecting this..
same problem here.. most of the videos i downloaded were 720p.. but most of the time when I try to watch the videos, frame rates were to slow... but the audio was fine,.. hmmmm?!?!
argel08 said:
same problem here.. most of the videos i downloaded were 720p.. but most of the time when I try to watch the videos, frame rates were to slow... but the audio was fine,.. hmmmm?!?!
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Thats d same problem that I face..
Smooth as silk here. Evn in stock player.
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ggclanlord said:
Smooth as silk here. Evn in stock player.
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The mp4s & mkv's too?? 720p??
Which firmware r u on??
Ws on ddkb2. Mkv. 720p.
Now i hv rooted and flashed xxxkb3. Nt tried on tis yet. Wait tel u in few
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Have you tried moboplayer ?
Download Handbrake and use it to convert your videos. Since it hasn't played on 6-7 players it's likely there is something wrong with the file format. Try converting to .mkv again with one of the presets.
thatha said:
Have you tried moboplayer ?
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That one is best of all the players.. But still lagged playback..
720P or 1080P? please try to use 手机QQ影音(Android)1.0 Beta3(168) it will be OK!
I recorded a video at highest quality and 720 using SGSL but when played they play like scatched cd or dvd, video and sound doesnt match and sometimes the video skips.
Can someone suggest. The videos are recorded on external sd card.
Its due to you ext sd quality.most probably its class 2.you need at least class 6 sd for optimum result.
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try vplayer, it suppors a lot of different files i tried mp4 and mkv as well
cheers!
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Its due to you ext sd quality.most probably its class 2.you need at least class 6 sd for optimum result.
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I have a class 4 card. Thanks for the reply
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720P or 1080P? please try to use 手机QQ影音(Android)1.0 Beta3(168) it will be OK!
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where can i find this?
I've researched a lot on this topic and found that its due to our omap 3630 chip set. Its not powerful as galaxy s hummingbird. It can play 720p mp4 but not handle 1280*720 mkv no matter what you do.
I have both galaxy s and sl.
And I recently flash both with best roms available with lagfix.
What I wonder to see that smartcine n quadrant score of both.
I. Cpu part they have little difference.
2. But in graphics u have seen nearly 60% more score of galaxy s over sl.
That is the reason sl sucks in this section means hd playback but.
But after flash xxdb3 n lagfix on my sl. I am able to score mkre than 1900 on quadrant where my galaxy s score 2700.
I dont think any player from market can play mkv in hd smoothly.
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manrock111 said:
I've researched a lot on this topic and found that its due to our omap 3630 chip set. Its not powerful as galaxy s hummingbird. It can play 720p mp4 but not handle 1280*720 mkv no matter what you do.
I have both galaxy s and sl.
And I recently flash both with best roms available with lagfix.
What I wonder to see that smartcine n quadrant score of both.
I. Cpu part they have little difference.
2. But in graphics u have seen nearly 60% more score of galaxy s over sl.
That is the reason sl sucks in this section means hd playback but.
But after flash xxdb3 n lagfix on my sl. I am able to score mkre than 1900 on quadrant where my galaxy s score 2700.
I dont think any player from market can play mkv in hd smoothly.
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i9003 can't play mkv because it don't have drivers to understand this format in stock player. If you are using other player in not system mode this means that it don't use video aceleration at all.
IE we just need native drivers for mkv and other formats
is there any way to play HD videos on mini(720p or 1080p)
plz let us know if there is....
elixdragon said:
is there any way to play HD videos on mini(720p or 1080p)
plz let us know if there is....
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check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1382259
but if you mean like internal files..... the max I could play decent is with 800x480
elixdragon said:
is there any way to play HD videos on mini(720p or 1080p)
plz let us know if there is....
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try mobo player may be it can help
you can play HD videos(may be upto 720p) in MX video player bt they are would be quite slow...
upto 480p will be nice..
As far as I know, neither the hardware nor the software can play HD movies on Galaxy mini
thnx for the info guys ... even i thought its kinda hard to play hd videos...n i can easily play 640x480...not more than that.
KInda laggy on galaxy mini to play hd videos...since its a low end device,.
I have galaxy S3 and it can handle 10-bit 480p, but 10-bit 720p video runs slow
Is HTC one powerful enough to handle 10-bit 720p video smoothly ? Can someone test it ?
Note: The default media player probably won't play 10-bit videos. So, download MX Player from google play, and make sure you use S/W (software mode) for playing 10-bit video.
Also, you can easily find countless of 720p 10-bit animes if you use google. So, please someone test it for me.
Anyone ?
I doubt many of us are familiar with 10 bit video. Try asking the int'l One forum, they already have the phone available.
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maroon1 said:
I have galaxy S3 and it can handle 10-bit 480p, but 10-bit 720p video runs slow
Is HTC one powerful enough to handle 10-bit 720p video smoothly ? Can someone test it ?
Note: The default media player probably won't play 10-bit videos. So, download MX Player from google play, and make sure you use S/W (software mode) for playing 10-bit video.
Also, you can easily find countless of 720p 10-bit animes if you use google. So, please someone test it for me.
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Yes, it works fine. I didn't see any stuttering, which happened on my Nexus 7.
Serift said:
Yes, it works fine. I didn't see any stuttering, which happened on my Nexus 7.
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Thanks for answering.
What about 1080p 10-bit video ? COuld HTC handle that ?
Serift said:
Yes, it works fine. I didn't see any stuttering, which happened on my Nexus 7.
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Okay, I take it back. There are still some frame drops, mainly when panning, but in general it's pretty good.