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http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/29/t-mobile-g2-build-flashes-to-other-devices-to-great-results-new/
I'm new at android but i saw this post and i am assuming the other phones its been flashed too are htc but i was still wondering if this could be flashed on the captivate? i know it seems dumb but mayb it can be

i would bet it wont work

ya i mean i didnt think so but i thought it might have a slim chance

oldskooldawgz said:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/29/t-mobile-g2-build-flashes-to-other-devices-to-great-results-new/
I'm new at android but i saw this post and i am assuming the other phones its been flashed too are htc but i was still wondering if this could be flashed on the captivate? i know it seems dumb but mayb it can be
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I feel like engadget misunderstood. I don't believe the ROM has been fully flashed onto any hardware, it may have been tested in the SDK and it's even possible they were able to import several things (like the modem) and several apk's into something like the nexus one (for instance, phandroid has a commenter claiming to be running the G2 launcher and G2 google apps on stock froyo 2.2 FOR THE NEXUS ONE). I doubt there have been any pre-bakes, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is something there for the nexus one (feel free to show me otherwise, I'd be interested in seeing it)

I feel the same way after checking sources I don't think its been flashed completely either but one can hope anyways that 2.1 vanilla may be hitting soon which spill be a relief
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[Q] Sense 2.2 Rom

with the release of froyostone rom for the hd2 which is sense + 2.2 officially from htc, I believe it would be much easier to port sense to the captivate and completely remove touchwiz.

First your posting in the wrong captivate forum section...second the Android os isn't something that can be magically ported to XX device just because XXX device has it or its working on it, for starters the hd2 is a non native android device, which means its running an android port, with the help of a half working linux kernel, loaded with haret bootloader, android 2.2 is coming in September so just sit tight and be patient, or you can download CM6 vibrant source and port it over to the captivate(you would have to make the captivates kernel compatible with 2.2, meaning backporting/patching etc) which ever you like.
Rafyvitto

Yeah it ought to be about as easy as loading OS X on a Commodore 64.

gunnyman said:
Yeah it ought to be about as easy as loading OS X on a Commodore 64.
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Well, maybe Steve can call Xerox for some help with that...

dressanderc said:
Well, maybe Steve can call Xerox for some help with that...
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I LOL'ed +tenchars

gunnyman said:
Yeah it ought to be about as easy as loading OS X on a Commodore 64.
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dressanderc said:
Well, maybe Steve can call Xerox for some help with that...
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ROFL thats some good stuff guys.

who wants sense anyways, it's just a big shiney TURD!

designgears said:
who wants sense anyways, it's just a big shiney TURD!
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+1
where's some good ol' fashioned AOSP when you need it?
*hint hint* DG *hint*

Personally, I cant wait till all manufacturers realize we don't want to be forced into sense, touch wiz etc.
Make it default if you have to, but provide an option to enjoy raw, unadulterated android!!!

I guess we wait and see what Gingerbread does about that.

To the OP, why don't YOU port Android 2.2 to the Captivate AND also port Sense??
Joking aside I am going to be cooking for the Captivate soon. I'm just waiting for Froyo so I can get my hands dirty with Android .
Maybe even a Sense port??

I've been working on porting sense to our the device for some weeks now but roms fail to boot, changing libs etc, got no clue of what else to try.

Sense is so deeply entangled into Android, kinda like trying to remove Internet Explorer from Windows 95, It is virtually impossible to get it working without all the kernel extensions HTC added to the OS.

gunnyman said:
Sense is so deeply entangled into Android, kinda like trying to remove Internet Explorer from Windows 95, It is virtually impossible to get it working without all the kernel extensions HTC added to the OS.
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Just a historical footnote. Internet explorer was very easy to remove from windows 95. The original release of win95 didn't even include internet explorer. It was only available as part of the plus! Pack of addons. The SR1 release had IE v2 included but it could be easily deleted. It wasn't until IE 4 that active desktop became a part of the package and began making it difficult to seperate from the OS. IE 4 came sr2.5 but was an optional upgrade for most win95 instalations.
But i knew what you meant.
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jaredc74 said:
Just a historical footnote. Internet explorer was very easy to remove from windows 95. The original release of win95 didn't even include internet explorer. It was only available as part of the plus! Pack of addons. The SR1 release had IE v2 included but it could be easily deleted. It wasn't until IE 4 that active desktop became a part of the package and began making it difficult to seperate from the OS. IE 4 came sr2.5 but was an optional upgrade for most win95 instalations.
But i knew what you meant.
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haha, I was literally going to add almost exactly this.
Sense seems only to be portable to devices that can run off of HTC-based ROMs. It seems to be much easier to remove it than to try and bring it over (I haven't heard of it being brought to a device that wasn't HTC based). The widgets haven't even been ported to the best of my knowledge to work on non-Sense launchers. And, as proven by our phones, they could have made Sense even MORE integrated considering removing touchwiz launcher causes massive force closes. Also, Sense is proprietary and cosed source, so we don't have any low-level access to remove the HTC restrictions (short of binary hacking, which I know nothing about and could indeed be wrong about)

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haha, I was literally going to add almost exactly this.
Sense seems only to be portable to devices that can run off of HTC-based ROMs. It seems to be much easier to remove it than to try and bring it over (I haven't heard of it being brought to a device that wasn't HTC based). The widgets haven't even been ported to the best of my knowledge to work on non-Sense launchers. And, as proven by our phones, they could have made Sense even MORE integrated considering removing touchwiz launcher causes massive force closes. Also, Sense is proprietary and cosed source, so we don't have any low-level access to remove the HTC restrictions (short of binary hacking, which I know nothing about and could indeed be wrong about)
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Well how the huck did they get Sense on the HD2?? It doesn't even come with android from factory! We need someone to shed a little more light in this. Maybe its because they use some Qualcomm specific images or something.
rafyvitto said:
I've been working on porting sense to our the device for some weeks now but roms fail to boot, changing libs etc, got no clue of what else to try.
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You got a PM

DJGonzo said:
Well how the huck did they get Sense on the HD2?? It doesn't even come with android from factory! We need someone to shed a little more light in this. Maybe its because they use some Qualcomm specific images or something.
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notice how I said I can't see it being ported to a non-HTC device. The HD2 is indeed an HTC device and I believe the ROM that has Sense is one built off of an HTC ROM for another device. Much like how the Legend ROMs were able to be fairly easily/quickly ported to the Aria. In fact, many of the internals of the HD2 resemble a lot of the Android hardware produced by HTC (qualcomm snapdragon and all that good stuff I believe)... the difficulty of getting android on that device had nothing to do with the ROMs, but actually getting haret to boot a linux kernel properly.

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notice how I said I can't see it being ported to a non-HTC device. The HD2 is indeed an HTC device and I believe the ROM that has Sense is one built off of an HTC ROM for another device. Much like how the Legend ROMs were able to be fairly easily/quickly ported to the Aria. In fact, many of the internals of the HD2 resemble a lot of the Android hardware produced by HTC (qualcomm snapdragon and all that good stuff I believe)... the difficulty of getting android on that device had nothing to do with the ROMs, but actually getting haret to boot a linux kernel properly.
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Unless they ported the whole ROM and re used drivers, I don't quite understand how they got it to work.
They got Sense 2.5 working from The HD2 onto the Omnia II (winmo), so its quite possible. We just need a team of developers willing to do the work. I can offer hosting and testing and little technical help since I am new at Android but I think we can get it to work if we start to tinker with it.
Maybe a ROM port is in order?
Maybe we should wait for a Froyo kernel though.

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Unless they ported the whole ROM and re used drivers, I don't quite understand how they got it to work.
They got Sense 2.5 working from The HD2 onto the Omnia II (winmo), so its quite possible. We just need a team of developers willing to do the work. I can offer hosting and testing and little technical help since I am new at Android but I think we can get it to work if we start to tinker with it.
Maybe a ROM port is in order?
Maybe we should wait for a Froyo kernel though.
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I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm saying it hasn't been done. There are (correct me if I'm wrong) absolutely no non-HTC android devices with the Sense UI. I know nothing about the HD2/Omnia II Sense port, but that's WinMo... not even remotely close to Android in terms of interoperability. I also feel like any ROMs designed to bring Sense UI to non-HTC android devices would be hit with C&D's since it's their proprietary software (hence why both Fancy Widget and Beautiful Widgets got in trouble originally when they launched on the market).
Don't get me wrong, good luck in porting it, hell even I like the look of it and would love the option, but considering how long Sense has been out for android (and numerous devices) and we don't see it on any non-HTC android devices, I have to believe it's been tried and just doesn't work (which is why you also don't see MotoBLUR/NinjaBLUR anywhere else either... or even TouchWiz on the EVO)

Also I think the HD2 and the Desire are the same hardware. If not the Desire it's another phone. That also makes porting Android pretty painless.

Just incase you didn't see it...

Here you go, Android 2.4 Honeycomb's music player apk. Yes, Android 2.4. It seems to go along nicely with gallery 3d.
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I tried pushing this to my phone a few days ago and couldn't get it running on my eris. It wouldn't let me do a traditional install either. Do you have it running? If so, what ROM are you running?

synesthete said:
I tried pushing this to my phone a few days ago and couldn't get it running on my eris. It wouldn't let me do a traditional install either. Do you have it running? If so, what ROM are you running?
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I have not even looked at it yet but for all I know, it may be HDPI only. That would be dumb of Google. I don't think many MDPI devices (if any) will get the official upgrade to 2.4 or 3.0, but rooters are like half or more of the user base right? I think google should be on the rooters side when it comes to this kind of thing. The G1 has gingerbread right? And that was not even supposed to get 2.0.

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I have not even looked at it yet but for all I know, it may be HDPI only. That would be dumb of Google. I don't think many MDPI devices (if any) will get the official upgrade to 2.4 or 3.0, but rooters are like half or more of the user base right? I think google should be on the rooters side when it comes to this kind of thing. The G1 has gingerbread right? And that was not even supposed to get 2.0.
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It probably has more to do with how much RAM this thing uses. I was reading reports of the guys in the original thread and they were saying it was sucking down 24-28mb of RAM, the Eris couldn't handle that drain, hell it pretty much takes being OC'd to handle the 3D gallery on these phones.

[Q] How to make the nook most functional? Lcddensity or anything else..

First I want to say, I normally don't post until I am pretty familiar with a device, but I have searched enough and played enough, that I hope my questions or posts don't sound stupid.
That said. I have modified many devices, none so much as my phone, and recently decided to say goodbye to stock(or at least keep it hidden on a sd card if I need it) nook.. I have tried every rom I can, and am now trying nightlies of cm7..
But what is the best setup to have the most market showing, and the most compatibility when you do download apps or apks? I know lcd density is a big factor of what will show up in the market, and the settings in build.prop can keep apps like netflix or tegra games from working(which I have fixed), or.. I am sure there is much more. But there is no updated faq thread that points everyone from asking the same questions, or getting the most up to date information
So the questions:
What are all the changes that you can make to ensure you have access on market and/or can run the most apps?
I am willing to do just about anything to my devices, but I would like to learn specifically for the nook what I can change to get the most out of it. Specifically anything that will make it possible to run tablet applications on it.

Flash MIUI. IMHO, your Nook is now perfect. Then fix Netflix.

LOL. Been to miui, done that. IMO if app developers were less afraid of negative feedback, and willing to beta test with a wider audience, or at least provide a downloadable apk.. this problem wouldn't exist.
Till then(sorry, I don't like MIUI), I guess I am lost.

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Flash MIUI. IMHO, your Nook is now perfect. Then fix Netflix.
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If by perfect you mean a large phone then yes flash MIUI and use their 240 lcd density
OP:
Most so called tablet applications are Honeycomb only at this point. You shouldn't need to adjust anything to get Market access. If there is anything that folks are doing to get past Market filters then they should tell me.

You no longer have to edit your build.prop for Netflix if your using a release from the last month
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http://tablified.com/
I came across that today.

I think the difficulty of answering your question stems from the fact that there are so many different variables involved. What works for someone may not work for others based on the ROM, ROM version, other apps, settings, other fixes they have in place, etc. When I first flashed CM7 and then nightlies, I was under the impression that there would be one general answer to getting the Market fixed so I could download/install any apps and run them. Sadly, it doesn't seem to be so and what you do to fix one app or the Market on your device may be a different process than on someone else's device.

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I think the difficulty of answering your question stems from the fact that there are so many different variables involved. What works for someone may not work for others based on the ROM, ROM version, other apps, settings, other fixes they have in place, etc. When I first flashed CM7 and then nightlies, I was under the impression that there would be one general answer to getting the Market fixed so I could download/install any apps and run them. Sadly, it doesn't seem to be so and what you do to fix one app or the Market on your device may be a different process than on someone else's device.
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It is kinda sad, but this only seems to be true about the nook color from what I have seen. There IS a fair amount of development going on, but it seems to be almost totally into cm7. Other android devices I have done a fair amount of playing with, unless a problem is hardware based, or someone did something to their OS or an app they have.. everyone is having the same exact experience.. so I guess I expected similar here, but maybe there is just less development.
I guess I was looking for devs to point out the different things they manipulate, why, and what kind of results they get. For instance, supposedly I should see netflix in the market, but I don't. Not with cm7.0.3 or rc1 or any nightly I have flashed, even though there are plenty of posts that say I should.
I have netflix, and it works, but I am wondering what variables go into manipulating these things. Another example is Order and Chaos 1.0.2, a game that only works on a small list of devices, and just updated.. I tried changing multiple things, multiple ways, and everytime it would fail to boot. Turns out changing just these:
ro.product.model=SCH-I500
ro.product.brand=verizon
ro.product.name=SCH-I500
ro.product.device=SCH-I500
ro.product.board=aries
Made the game work again. Fingerprints, what os we are using, and so many other things just kept it from booting.. but the device doesn't seem to see anything differently in market than before.
Anyways, if anyone can contribute some ideas to this thread, what can be manipulated, why, and what to expect, I would appreciate it, even just for the learning experience.

Netflix only shows up in the market for the 16 or so "official" phones. The rest of us have to sideload the .apk.
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Netflix only shows up in the market for the 16 or so "official" phones. The rest of us have to sideload the .apk.
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I found multiple threads(not on xda, maybe that's the problem) that say on the latest cm7 it is supposed to show up..
I have been trying to do research on what I can change in the build.prop to make apps LIKE netflix show up, but what I really want is to be able to download a paid app called order and chaos. I was able to get the app itself to think it was a supported device, but no matter what changes I make, it won't let me download it in the market.
This is not the only thing I want, but this is what I want most of all. If I hadn't broken my samsung vibrant, I could load the apk from it and have a valid licensed game, but unless it is linked to the nook I won't be able to make in app purchases(like buying game time).
This matters because my replacement vibrant is coming in tomorrow, but I am going to sell it asap..

[Q] complete stock ASOP rom possible out of the box?

I guess im used to computer types of drivers, kernels, etc.
but I just don't see why we couldn't build a complete stock ASOP rom without any modification other than a specialized kernel?
shouldn't it be able to just "work" because android is still android right?
Sorry for being ignorant lol but could anyone explain why it isn't possible for a raw ASOP rom to run on the vivid?

zacgoesrawr said:
I guess im used to computer types of drivers, kernels, etc.
but I just don't see why we couldn't build a complete stock ASOP rom without any modification other than a specialized kernel?
shouldn't it be able to just "work" because android is still android right?
Sorry for being ignorant lol but could anyone explain why it isn't possible for a raw ASOP rom to run on the vivid?
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It would be possible but company's like htc embed there software deep into the rom and replace most of the vanilla stuff with htc sense. The cyanogen mod that's currently being worked on is from the google nexus so it has to be ported because obviously these aren't the same phones. It would be like taking a hard drive from your Intel installation and trying to use it with an AMD processor. its not going to work because you've basically changed the brain.

alright i got it, thanks!
damn HTC for making sense mandatory and damn AT&T for not having any Google "approved" phones (ASOP Geared)

zacgoesrawr said:
alright i got it, thanks!
damn HTC for making sense mandatory and damn AT&T for not having any Google "approved" phones (ASOP Geared)
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It would be really great if google just made a standard for manufacturers to follow so we could use roms on different devices and then wed have more apps because then developers wouldn't be forced to make there apps for such a wide range of devices. But i guess that would make them to much like apple lol