Database Develop

[Q] Starting to get laggy/buggy again even after lag-fix?

Hey all,
I installed Super Rooter shortly before it became SRE, I based it on the JH3 firmware. With it is SLA4 and I used the packaged lag-fix and bloatware remover. It was going great for a while, but recently things are getting screwy. Things that are happening once in a while:
I click home, and the home screen is entirely blank and all the icons and apps have to re-load
When installing programs, everything is horribly slow
Unlocking the phone sometimes is very delayed
Is anyone else experiencing any of these problems? Also, I have a lot of apps installed. Always running are: SmartBar, SystemPanel and Tasker.
Let me know if I left out any important information.
Thanks!

Mine was like this for a while. Problem went away when I rebooted. This was on stock firmware with RyanZA lagfix only.

I'm having the same problem with the Lagfix installed. I tried to uninstall it to see if that was the problem, but it messed up and screwed up my data. I have to reinstall a ROM now.

i have noticed the exact same lags....the one where everything has to reload is especially annoying. happens every once in awhile when i open the app drawer too.
surprisingly enough, i am also running jh3 with super rooter (before it became sre)...i was excited because i came home today expecting to do a jh7 flash with the latest SRE, and then i see unhelpful updated his kernal, and DG is going to take a few days and update the whole sre program to either a full blown rom or add many options for flashing.

Sounds like a your running out of RAM, not filesystem lag issues.
Get a task killer, configure it to ignore the apps/widgets you dont want it to kill. Add the task killers "Kill All" widget to your default home screen and hit the kill all widget every time you back out of an application you are done using.
When your captivate is unable to keep more than 100-140MB of RAM free its time for a reboot. If you can never maintain this much free RAM even after a fresh reboot, cut down to 2 or 3 home screens and and less widgets.
With ADW.Launcher, 2 home screens and 3 Widgets total I never fall under 200MB of RAM free (Rooted)

[Q] Is it just me or is the pinch overview for the touch wiz app drawer REALLY laggy?

Hi guys!
I discovered last week that newer firmwares like JPK and JPM have a pinch-overview feature for the app drawer. I never noticed this until i read it mentioned in a thread somewhere about the new SGS froyo features. I decided to try it out on a freshly flashed phone and it looked great and seemed really useful to me.
If you're unsure of what I'm talking about, it's similar to how you can pinch the home screen to have an overview of all your current homescreens and from there you can add, delete, move their positions around, or quickly jump to one of them. The app drawer for touch wiz has this as well apparently but just for rearranging panes or quickly jumping to one of them.
However, as I started filling up my phone with apps and gathered about 5 or 6 panes worth of apps, whenever I'd try doing the pinch-overview thing it was extremely slow in scrolling up or down. Sometimes it starts out fine but for some reason chokes up in the middle and sometimes it's incredibly slow to the point it is literally crawling up or down instead of actually scrolling...it's extremely frustrating.
I am currently running the latest beta for Voodoo lagfix on JPM. I keep my ram usage in check using Watchdog and Autostarts so I don't have all too many background stuff going on that would cause the slow down. The phone is nice and snappy in every aspect aside from this.

I use Launcher Pro. TW is Samsung so it's crap.

I happen to like TouchWiz actually but I understand why a lot of people dislike it. :O Maybe I like the iPhone-esque layout. I never owned an iPhone though.

I have just 6 panes of applications but no lag in the pinch zoom or scrolling. Rooted JP6, no lagfix.

Pinch zooming the apps does result in laggy scrolling here too, not very annoying though, since i can still easily jump from first to last page that way.

Yes, trying to scroll the "pinch-viewed" app drawer is painful to watch, and I only have 5-6 pages of apps. This is on rooted JP6 with OCLF v2.

Yeap, confirmed that it's super laggy. Using (official) Froyo, rooted, no lag fix.

Yeah good thing it lags so much that a quick flick does take you all the way to your last few panes of apps without a hitch. The SGS just loses more of its "slickness" though because of the lag in this aspect. If it were smooth and fluid here then not only does it feel and look great, it has great show-off value as well
This is pretty much my only pet peeve at the moment with the SGS. GPS never locks for me but I don't use GPS all that much so I can live. Things still lag for a few seconds whenever apps are installing but it's nothing too excruciating.
I hope future builds optimize this aspect as well as fix the other issues of the SGS (GPS etc. etc.)

Problem went away!
Strange. I added a ton of apps resulting in about 9 pages worth of apps and for some reason the pinch-overview lag is pretty much gone!
I haven't done anything special. If you ask me, I thought my SGS would be lagging a lot more than usual with the addition of more apps. I've also been customizing my homescreens with all kinds of widgets I thought would be eating up more memory/cpu but surprisingly I hardly notice a change in performance! And I'm not complaining that the lag went away. It's great that it did! Now my SGS experience is almost perfect!
I'm still not using any real auto-task killers or dedicated memory boosters. Here's my setup:
SGS on JPM (2.2)
Voodoo lag fix 5 pre4
Autostarts (turns off certain receivers that make apps autostart) - paid, forgot the price
Watchdog (monitor and "kill" running apps) - paid, forgot the price
SmartBar (to turn off certain services) - free

stock 2.2 several questions

So I am probably one of the few that is running a completely stock unrooted nook I was playing around with the new update today and downloaded a handful of the free apps. I have several questions:
1) For some reason my Fliq Notes icon disappeared, I can still use the app perfectly fine, but it's showing a gray standard b&n icon, any way to fix this? I tried "archiving" it and installing again, no dice.
2) What is archiving anyway? I'm completely new to Android if that matters. Is it like uninstalling something in windows?
3) In the apps screen, what is that right most "refresh" looking button? Whenever I click it it just spins forever and never stops.
Overall I must say that the nook runs much smoother than it did with Android 2.1. PDFs seem to render faster, the web browser pinch to zoom is smoother as well. Flash is great!

I run a stock unrooted nook, except when I run off an SD card.
I have a similar issue with fliq calendar's icon. I have a suspicion, after reading some reviews on other sites, that this may be a fliq issue.
I agree that the whole experience is a lot smoother with the update.

Stock vs custom - multitasking

So, i've tried many different roms out there on my SGS. Never got any major issue with flashing or setting them up. Supposedly a custom rom has something improved but there was one think i kept thinking they all fail and i was wondering if anyone else feels the same.
I see random posts all the time telling how great multitasking in android is. But all these roms i keep using try their very best to close just about everything i have running. As far as i can tell, a few seconds after i switch to anything else, my first app gets closed. For example, everytime i'd leave browsing to manage what im listening to or sort out files on some file manager i'd find i needed to open my browser again instead of being there opened and waiting for me to return.
After searching for a while, the best explanation i could find out is to prevent battery drain from opened apps and to keep things smooth by having free ram, which kind of makes sense. Goes against what i read in a paper from google about android multitasking but fair enough.
Except the other day i happened to returned to a froyo stock rom (JS8 with darkcore 1.4) on my SGS and found out this does not happen. Apps stay open for the most part, except when i run something really heavy (like a game). And i dont really notice any performance decrease or extra battery drain from my usual usage.
Granted, i could be just told something along the lines "well dude, just use whatever works for you" and i totally plan on doing so, hence me experimenting, but thats not really my point. What i'm going for is, are custom roms being overzealous? because this really spoils any attempt at multitasking...
Again, this is not a rant of any sort, i was just wondering what are other people's thoughts about it

I'm suffering same problem
i want to have the browser and messenger at the same time
it close one after swetching to the other
i have 80mb free ram

I had the same problems, although lack of multitasking appeared on my stock rom, not a custom... sgs couldn't handle faceboom messager, viber, and a browser at the same time, everytime I switch from my browser to something else - it gets killed, which is frustrating
at the same time I saw how nexus s work, and how much free memory it has, compared to mine, the difference was huge!
I tried cyanogen at first, which was very close to stock nexus s, but it doesn't work good with sgs's camera and crashes once in a while
so eventually I installed JVT with voodoo and uninstalled different samsung stock apps, which gave me about 50mb of additional RAM compared to stock, and there doesn't seem to be any aggressive memory cleaners working, so I can now finally switch between all the apps I need

If you want the best roms for multitasking, go for the final builds of Froyo 2.2.1. They have plenty of free ram and are very smooth. I'd recommend Froyo ZSJPK. You can download it from XDA.

I think it depends on the ram settings in your ROM. The way android works is there are a bunch of system settings on how much ram to keep clear, and if it drops beneath certain values they start killing apps.
It's highly possible these values were tweaked in the custom roms, to improve the perceived smoothness and so on, but at the same time reducing multitasking. There's a trade off between performance and multitasking (guess why apple was so reluctant to add multitasking?)
I'm not really an expert on it, but I'm sure some quick searches around will find out where those values are and how to change them.. some rom/app probably even allows you to tweak them to your liking.

All Gingerbread roms do the same, closing apps after moving away from this, don't know why, but froyo didn't do this and ginger does.

I used to be like TS, clearing RAM because it might let the phone run smoother. After getting more exposed to Android, I realised that it could be logical to keep your apps in RAM instead of doing a cold boot again, meaning to close an app, open, close and open again, making it taxing on the phone.
So I tried to use up as much RAM as possible and it works just fine, it feels good. I believe the problem you have stated is that in your ROM, the task manager has instructions to clear the RAM once it hits a certain threshold. When it does, it starts to clear apps in different category, starting from what is known as empty apps, which are generally just apps you use and are not important to the android OS or rather independent from the OS.
In the new Samsung ROM, the threshold is set to 40MB, and it is working great for me. You can go to the android market and download "Galaxy Tuner" to set the threshold to a value you feel comfortable with. To multitask better, set the threshold as low as possible.

MaoJie said:
I used to be like TS, clearing RAM because it might let the phone run smoother. After getting more exposed to Android, I realised that it could be logical to keep your apps in RAM instead of doing a cold boot again, meaning to close an app, open, close and open again, making it taxing on the phone.
So I tried to use up as much RAM as possible and it works just fine, it feels good. I believe the problem you have stated is that in your ROM, the task manager has instructions to clear the RAM once it hits a certain threshold. When it does, it starts to clear apps in different category, starting from what is known as empty apps, which are generally just apps you use and are not important to the android OS or rather independent from the OS.
In the new Samsung ROM, the threshold is set to 40MB, and it is working great for me. You can go to the android market and download "Galaxy Tuner" to set the threshold to a value you feel comfortable with. To multitask better, set the threshold as low as possible.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ok i downloaded galaxy tuner but idk how to change threshold

Dropping performance

After flashing a rom onto my LG P990 it works flawlessly-everything is nuttery smooth, fast and reliable but after some uptime and few days of using it suddenly starts to lag. It really pisses me off since P990 is quite powerfull when it comes to specs but my friends Galaxy S somehow maintains it's performance.
So the question is how to make sure that my phone will not reduce it's performance so drastically over time?
I'm runnig latest Temasek's KANG and ETaNa's latest beta kernel with 1,4GHz OC.

Do you have alot of apps installed?
Try to see how much RAM usage you have on boot and after it starts to drop performance.

Yeah I read somewhere that there is a memory leak problem with the o2x...restart your phone once in 3 days..things should be fine

Rebooting doesn't help. If it did I would assume that it's simply because an app/apps is causing the drop and then I would try to find it. I do have a lot of apps on my phone but most of them shouldn't be running by themselves in the backgroud (mostly games and such).

I have same problem (on ICS ROMs). After flash, everything is fast, after few days....I have to wait for call for 30 sec....horrible...

I have noticed that problem witch made me a flashaholic .. you could begin with deleting facebook app, messenger and google plus (drainers) then dl rom manager and set in on hard gaming , worked ok for me
Sent from my LG-P990 using xda app-developers app

Also I have a major USB issue. Almost always after turning off storage mode the phone just hangs and I have to remove the battery to restart it. Sometimes it even reboots by itself while transfering files.

Memory leak... If this problem annoys you flash a stock froyo rom or cm based rom..

Have been using CM7 for probably 12 months, but the performance in the last few weeks seems to have got much worse....

i think it could be a baseband issue...I am ...during the verification of the existing problem ...

Since rebooting and installing the tweakaio.zip with lagfree patch for my kernel everything seems better. Not freshly-flashed good but much better.

I don't have any problems with my O2X. It runs buttery-smooth even after two weeks without rebooting. However, the internal IO does get pretty slow after a while. It's nothing too dramatic though.
Heres my recommendation;
Latest Temasek ROM & Kernel
Use the built-in ramhack (this really helps alot!)
Using TitaniumBackup, freeze un-needed apps or uninstall them (be careful with this, make backups. This is mainly meant for system apps that you don't need, i.e. Car Home so they won't fill up your RAM unnecessarily)
Using Autorun Manager just prevent most apps from auto-starting themselves.
Optional; let a task manager kill apps for you periodically. I always read that it's not good to use task managers but I never seem to have any problems with them. I've got 200MB RAM free all the time, even after several days of usage. To prevent killing specific apps just add them to the ignore list of your task manager.
You could also use the lagfree + dalvik cache fix by tonyp and adjust the LMK values.
This setup is working perfectly fine for me, just try it out yourself.
Edit: I also have to note that I don't have many apps installed. Just the things that I really need such as AlarmDroid, the XDA Premium App (!), PimpMyCpu, etc.

xExabyte said:
I don't have any problems with my O2X. It runs buttery-smooth even after two weeks without rebooting. However, the internal IO does get pretty slow after a while. It's nothing too dramatic though.
Heres my recommendation;
Latest Temasek ROM & Kernel
Use the built-in ramhack (this really helps alot!)
Using TitaniumBackup, freeze un-needed apps or uninstall them (be careful with this, make backups. This is mainly meant for system apps that you don't need, i.e. Car Home so they won't fill up your RAM unnecessarily)
Using Autorun Manager just prevent most apps from auto-starting themselves.
Optional; let a task manager kill apps for you periodically. I always read that it's not good to use task managers but I never seem to have any problems with them. I've got 200MB RAM free all the time, even after several days of usage. To prevent killing specific apps just add them to the ignore list of your task manager.
You could also use the lagfree + dalvik cache fix by tonyp and adjust the LMK values.
This setup is working perfectly fine for me, just try it out yourself.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
good call.
lately ive been using etana kernel with the oall mighty temaseks rom, but the music for eg gets clipped when i open other apps start wifi/bt while playing

xilw3r said:
good call.
lately ive been using etana kernel with the oall mighty temaseks rom, but the music for eg gets clipped when i open other apps start wifi/bt while playing
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I never listen to music on my phone so I can't help you out with that. Try a different kernel?