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This thread is for people like me, who don't know what ROM to choose from a list of many ROMs from many great chefs.
I am keeping my poll options empty for the time being as I have only played with a few ROMs without any guidance. I will begin to populate them as I start to see a few specific ROMs appearing consistantly.
I would like to ask the community of xda-developers to come by and help populate this thread with simple comments
and/or recommendations on what ROM(s if you have multiple devices) you use on your Rhodium/Touch Pro 2/Tilt 2 device.
Also, please also add what kind of user your are, or how/why you use your phone with 'said' ROM.
Additionally beneficial would be letting users know what ROM you recently used prior to your recommendation and the offsets you experience in general.
ie. ROM A is the one I recommend. However, ROM B does a few things a bit better, although ROM A is the one I would recommend to people who like smooth, quick eyecandy filled ROMs.
I also ask for intelligent, constructive critique on what you think about the ROM that you are commenting upon.
No one needs to know about what piece of profanity you would like to tack on 'user A' for saying '10101' about 'ROM B' or vice-versa.
This is meant to be a resource for new users to xda-developers, like I was, and to new owners of the HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium, Windows Mobile phone.
Candidly, I would like to have the moderator's support in keeping this a clean thread to have an easier (and more pleasant) navigation throughout the thread.
I would like to start off with creating a list of ROMs organized by chef name and OS/TouchFlo 3D version.
Underneath each ROM and their links (I will either find the ROM myself, or if you can be so helpful enough to link it onto your post
within this thread), I will be adding the pros and cons that are mentioned here, and that I have found as well.
To let you know a bit about my bias, I am looking for the following items;
-Speed
--Not only operating speed, going from interface to interface, but also how it handles multitasking.
--I usually do these three together; GPS, music, web browsing/text messaging
-User Friendliness
--From first stepping into the ROM, to using it for a couple of days and seeing it's inevitable and understandable flaws and offsets.
--Customizing settings on the ROM, and the ease to have certain things.
-Miscellaneous
--Other things such as the way the ROM will handle things such as the
unsightly error of TouchFlo 3D 2.5 and it's lack of Landscape viewing ability.
--These items will account for my general accountability on the topic of
"Would I (highly) recommend to my friend, who may be the same as, or a completely different user than, me."
My history with phones;
I have first used Motorola phones, starting with the t220 (apparently one of the first camera phones) moving to the RAZR V6 MAXX
(quite a glam, nice looking phone with great features, but poor connectivity issues with network and bluetooth) and a few years ago
Sony Ericsson phones such as the W810, K850 and the Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1a.
Most recently;
I have late last year, used a BlackBerry BOLD 9000, and in the past 3 months, trialed the Sony Ericsson XPERIA.
Without much ROM customization, the stock ROM was fun to play with, but lacked the easy access and user interface speed that
I have become accustomed to with the BlackBerry BOLD 9000. However, in seeing the Touch Pro 2 and purchasing it, I can now fully indulge in customizing
it with ROMs to fit my needs, though I am still painfully without hardware keys to have quick access to my browser, music or GPS.
However, I suppose the full 5 row keyboard makes up for the lack of hardware buttons elsewhere on the body.
Currently, I am using my Touch Pro 2, mainly as a resource device. What do I mean by this? I am using it with a SIM Card that only has data services.
I have installed programs such as Japanese dictionaries, phrase banks and linguistic aids to help in my study of the Japanese language.
I also use this for school (I am currently in grade 11, high school) using this device as my quick access to the internet (even though I have my blackberry).
I suppose having new devices is an obsession for me, as with a few others on here.
I'm looking for ROMs that will allow me quick and easy access to the programs that I frequent the most such as my Japanese programs, GPS,
music, web browser, notes, M-Soft Word and also allow me to freely multitask with them.
I know that this is mainly hardware dependent, but I have learned that some ROMs take up less RAM space, as to free up some more coasting speed for programs to run on.
Posting Format
Please include the following;
Recommended ROM?
ROM used before recommended ROM?
Your network provider, phone (is it from/branded T-Mobile US, AT&T, Telstra, Sprint, TELUS)?
How/What do you use your phone? (Business, personal, school // As your main device, just as a (conference) phone, just as a mini internet tablet, etc...)
The pros & cons you noticed coming onto this ROM?
Who you think would benefit from using this ROM?
ADDITIONALLY;
I want to invite Chefs to either PM me, or post what (and who) they desire their ROM to be (for),
so that TP2/Rhodium users/owners can have a one-stop place to take a look at which ROM has what to offer (and to whom).
I will be adding the Chef's words beneath the ROM(s) they wish to comment upon.
The following post will before the ROM listings.
ROM Listings!
Chef NRGZ28
He builds his ROMs with four main goals.
* Eye candy
* Speed !!!
* Smoothness, consistency and good aesthetics
* Stability through private beta testing before public release
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★ EnergyROM "Leo" (Build 23016) [Updated Oct 7]
Runs Windows Mobile 6.5 WWE & TouchFlo 3D/Manila 2.5
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Comments;
-Stable
-Fast
-Good Looking
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Great for;
★ EnergyROM "Photon, formerly GENESIS" (BUILD?) [Updated Oct 7]
Runs Windows Mobile 6.5 WWE & TouchFlo 3D/Manila 2.1
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Comments;
-Bug-Free
-Great aesthetics
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Great for;
Chef Monx
"ONLY THE BEST FOR ALL XDA-DEV MEMBERS"
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ROMeOS³ v1.20 (Build 23016)
Runs Windows Mobile 6.5 WWE & TouchFlo 3D/Manila 2.5 + HTC SENSE (beta)
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Comments;
-Fun and easy to customize to personal tastes
-Works great "out of the box"
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Great for;
Chef b16b
AthineOS v2.0 OEM Style (Build 21054)
Runs Windows Mobile 6.1 & TouchFlo 3D/Manila 2.1
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Comments;
-Works great "out of the box"
-Very stock/OEM like ROM without all the carrier's unneccessary confectionery
-Easy to use, being that it is a simple ROM
-Quick and fast
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Great for;
-Those who are looking to keep their stock ROM without carrier branding or excessive programs
-Great for business users to retain that 'corporate' look
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im so glad you have this up. i also have a hard time choosing.
pretty useless comment lol
You might be wasting your time since a mod most likely will close this thread...
How come?
If I'm making a bit too bias (on what I'm looking for) then I won't include my own opinion. That's fine.
But I want to have something like what the Kovsky/Sony Ericsson XPERIA forum has.
A ROM index, but enhanced with things such as recommendations, and owner/users & chef comments.
SleepiTyme said:
How come?
If I'm making a bit too bias (on what I'm looking for) then I won't include my own opinion. That's fine.
But I want to have something like what the Kovsky/Sony Ericsson XPERIA forum has.
A ROM index, but enhanced with things such as recommendations, and owner/users & chef comments.
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I am not sure why, the last few times someone asked which ROM was best the mods closed the thread. They claim it cuases flame wars and such.
Personally, I dont mind, like the idea and I was just giving you a heads up. Maybe you should ask a mod before your proceed further.
I would say this poll would avoid other threads like "what do you think is the best rom" or "can you advise me some rom"
So thumbs up
the best way to keep one thread like this is :
take one benchmark.. and test all the rom.. and post all result here
like topaz one
otherwise will locked soon
Benchmark?
"How does Benchmark?"
I think.. by emulating the ROM's speed and multitasking capabilities and such?
I want to know, not by computer, but by people why 'said' ROM is great.
Honestly, this is my story here;
I heard that ROMeOS's ROM for the Rhodium was great, although I had first saw Athine OS (both the light and Titanium builds with 2.1 and 2.5 Manila, 6.1 and 6.5 WinMo) and saw the pictures of the interface were just completely amazing.
So I downloaded them, but saw that they ran.. just the same as my stock ROM (at quite the same speed), though it was much cleaner than my Telstra stock ROM which was confuddled with many apps and things that I didn't need. And the light blue theme just didn't do it for me.
So then I just recently (actually last night) installed the ROMeOS ROM on my TP2 and found it so fun to have so much control upon things such as background wallpaper (both for lock screen and home screen tab). Also things such as backlighting, edit tabs, set up bluetooth, set up data, ringtones, message notifications ALMOST EVERYTHING customizable (that you would usually have to go in and out of menus for on the stock WWE ROM, and sometimes the Athine ROM) was located in one simple tab. Neigh, a simple section within a tab that had even more customization for other things on the phone.
THAT! That was most likely made this ROM popular, and it really did get into my good books quickly... until I found out that Manila 2.5 doesn't support Landscape.
I feel like I should either.. move onto another ROM, or just live with it.
I'm using Gyrator 2 along with my ROM, and it DID have the event action NOT to have auto rotate in Manila.. even though.. I want it to...
This above.. I'm looking for comments such as this, except from other, MORE experienced users with better opinions. Who hopefully can dumb it down so that people like me and many others, still fairly new to Windows Mobile, xda-developers and the HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium alike, can understand.
I believe.. that this should be something like a collaborative blog.
Just reading back up on my post right now, it's almost as if I were reading someone's story.
Many users might not want to go through that, and others may just want to write something to have their experience heard.
What I want to do is sift through all of that, and just have the comments, positive or negative, tacked onto each ROM in a list.
My ROMs Listing post.
Right by each description from each Chef.
Maybe it'll be reason enough for mods to keep this alive, maybe it won't be.
But... saving the effort of going through each ROM (there are about... 6-10, give or take 5^x) in which said thread for said ROM has 10+ pages of posts, usually around the vicinity of 30-50.
That is A LOT OF READING.
useless information
personally, this is useless information and i don"t go by polls. The best information is based on users" signature. I also take time to read, instead of relying on polls.
SleepiTyme said:
Benchmark?
"How does Benchmark?"
I think.. by emulating the ROM's speed and multitasking capabilities and such?
I want to know, not by computer, but by people why 'said' ROM is great.
Honestly, this is my story here;
I heard that ROMeOS's ROM for the Rhodium was great, although I had first saw Athine OS (both the light and Titanium builds with 2.1 and 2.5 Manila, 6.1 and 6.5 WinMo) and saw the pictures of the interface were just completely amazing.
So I downloaded them, but saw that they ran.. just the same as my stock ROM, though it was much cleaner than my Telstra stock ROM which was confuddled with many apps and things that I didn't need. And the light blue theme just didn't do it for me.
So then I just recently (actually last night) installed the ROMeOS ROM on my TP2 and found it so fun to have so much control upon things such as background wallpaper (both for lock screen and home screen tab). Also things such as backlighting, edit tabs, set up bluetooth, set up data, ringtones, message notifications ALMOST EVERYTHING customizable (that you would usually have to go in and out of menus for on the stock WWE ROM, and sometimes the Athine ROM) was located in one simple tab. Neigh, a simple section within a tab that had even more customization for other things on the phone.
THAT! That was most likely made this ROM popular, and it really did get into my good books quickly... until I found out that Manila 2.5 doesn't support Landscape.
I feel like I should either.. move onto another ROM, or just live with it.
I'm using Gyrator 2 along with my ROM, and it DID have the event action NOT to have auto rotate in Manila.. even though.. I want it to...
This above.. I'm looking for comments such as this, except from other, MORE experienced users with better opinions. Who hopefully can dumb it down so that people like me and many others, still fairly new to Windows Mobile, xda-developers and the HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium alike, can understand.
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How does one know which is best if they do not try them all? You mentioned two ROMs but have not mentioned the others. Can you give valid opinion on which you think is best without trying them all? Everyone has different tastes.
Those are just some of the things the mods may say and have said.
Like what I said, I don't mind a thread like this and wish there was a way to do this in a way that was more subjective.
Maybe there needs to be an official ROM judge
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Well that won't work either.
The only for you to know what ROM is best for you is to try them all until you find one that you like for yourself.
Ut0p1a said:
personally, this is useless information and i don"t go by polls. The best information is based on users" signature. I also take time to read, instead of relying on polls.
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Then.. maybe not polls?
What other way would be the best to;
1) save you time from reading a couple dozen to a couple hundred posts everytime you got a new device (though we're only talking about the Rhodium, and if you've read all those posts, I suppose you're a lost cause that I want to avoid being like, and want to help others avoid being as such as well)
2) Get you the accurate information on what are the highlights of the ROMs
2b) Without all the different ways that each chef sets up their forum posts to explain what their ROM does
2c) And have it all in one common format
3) Not many people post their ROMs on their signatures. I just saw it around as a growing
@At0mAng
Thank you for your opinion at this time of night.
Yes, did only mention (actually it was) three roms.
However, that is just only my input.
I've yet to trial the Miri ROM(s) and the Energy ROMs, just to name a few.
But mainly, I want simple, quick or concise comments on which ROMs a good/great and for what reason. Is it some part of the ROM? Does it perform better in the way that you've explained that you are using your TP2? Etc?
Yes.. everyone has different tastes, but they can mention what they like about 'said' ROM and help people become objective by the comments made here, and the quick pros and cons that have been tabulated onto the second post of this forum for quick reference as to which ROM does what best, or includes which great feature.
Edit;
This thread isn't here to decide Which ROM is the NUMBER ONE (for YOU)?!
It's to help guide newcomers to xda-developers, the HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium and Windows Mobile (all together) choose which ROM to pick.
I mean.. for new people, they have probably heard of ROMs, but don't know what to do with it.
What the heck is a HardSPL and flashing it?
Or, naturally after coming from the HardSPL resource sticky, one does suddenly freeze up and get stuck before spending 3-5 hours reading posts and choosing which ROM to pick and install, only to find out it doesn't really meet their requirements and move on to another one with a HUGE amount of wasted effort.
This here is to help people like that make more objective decisions, much quicker with the pros and cons of each ROM outlined and defined.
ROM Review template?
At0mAng said:
I am not sure why, the last few times someone asked which ROM was best the mods closed the thread. They claim it cuases flame wars and such.
Personally, I dont mind, like the idea and I was just giving you a heads up. Maybe you should ask a mod before your proceed further.
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Completely agree with At0mAng and I like this idea. I don't understand the fear of flame wars either. Just ban the people who start flaming and can't have a normal discussion.
As for this thread, maybe we could all post reviews of a ROM in a certain template. E.g. give grades for speed, apps, stability, eye candy, etc... Some people look for speed and clean ROMs, others just for the most fully apped ROMs. With a review template, you could have a quick overview of what a ROM performs best on and make your pick.
It's Right!
There is NO Best ROM !
Every Cooker has his "touch and taste" in his ROM...
I love to work with you all, guys...
All the cookers here are talented!
Work AS a TEAM get us a BETTER results!!
Continue all, in the great progress...
We will "knock out" HTC software at a glance...
TheAgent1982 said:
There is NO Best ROM !
Every Cooker has his "touch and taste" in his ROM...
I love to work with you all, guys...
All the cookers here are talented!
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It's not the point of this thread to find THE best ROM, but to find the most suitable ROM that fits your needs, at a glance...
Normally these threads are just closed as At0mAng said, but that would be unfair to the OP who's invested a fair old bit of time in this. It isn't the usual format and could be beneficial.
I've said before, that there isn't a forum rules preventing these threads, they are just closed because most of the people who create them are lazy noobs. If this threads is successful, then it "should" lead to less new threads.
I'm now subscribed and will monitor it, if it does degrade in to pretty much a Chef A vs Chef B thread, then I'll close it.
Thanks
Dave
Hi,
I'd like to take the opportunity to try to find a ROM which fits my needs: is there any Rom out there with WM 6.5, quicker than the stock ROM (if one can compare), with as few bugs as possible, still keeping Manilla 2.1 ? By the way, I am not interested in aesthetics, nor in software when the cab is available to install by myself. I only tested EnergyROM Genesis up to now, which is excellent, bug free as far as I can tell, but with many applications, very good aesthetics, maybe speed could improve with lighter graphics... Is there any quicker ROM here ?
On a side note, I find that the virtual keyboard of the TP2 is slow, e.g. changing from alpha to numeric takes too much time (then the first digit you type is ignored), does any ROM (or cab) improve this ?
Recommended ROM
I agree with the moderator that this poll (purely on the basis of statistics) is an interesting experiment and should not be stopped. It is vital though that people who vote have tested a significant number of the roms available.
I tested all the roms available on the 20-25 Sep period (7-8 of them) and I ended up using NRGZ28's Leo Manila 2.5 ROM as the most stable, fast, good looking. Essentially I encounter no bugs in every day use and I would recommend this rom to any TP2 user.
In the Super D thread, somebody suggested a 'ROM Hall of Fame.' I've decided to do something similar. This thread is about the ROMs that I recommend for different uses. It's difficult to explain, but you'll understand soon enough. Anyway, let's get on with it.
For Newbies/Inexperienced Users
For people who are just getting started with rooted Android, there's only really one recommendation that I can make, and that is, of course, the ever-popular CyanogenMod. This is an Android 1.6 build, and it's probably the most famous of all custom Android builds. Originally built upon JF's build of Android, CyanogenMod has now become a build in its own right. It's incredibly stable, it's fast, and it's really all that you'd ever need for your phone. If you want something that's simple, but still really good, CyanogenMod is the way to go.
For More Advanced Users
There are two builds that I can whole-heartedly recommend for the more advanced Android user. In the same way that CyanogenMod started as a modification of JF's build, these two builds are heavily based upon other popular builds of Android.
The first of these is WG-Build, a modification of CyanogenMod. This is my current everyday ROM, and I really like it. For more information on the exact changes, check out the thread, but the main difference between WG-Build and CyanogenMod is the kernel. Wes has been working hard on his custom WG-Kernel, which is the driving force behind the speed of his build. It comes in several different varieties depending on what you want. I use the CFS with RAM Hack, because CFS is more stable than the faster BFS, and the RAM hack is of great use too. WG-Build is one of the fastest builds you'll find, and it is my personal recommendation.
However, you may prefer Super D. This ROM is essentially a modification of a ROM by Dwang, although it has come a long way since then. This ROM is thought by many to be the fastest available, although from personal experience, there is little difference between Super D and WG-Build. This is more of a personal choice as to which build you prefer, so try them both. I prefer WG-Build, but you may prefer Super D. It is your choice.
Eclair ROMs
TO COME.
Hero/Sense ROMs
Again, TO COME.
Guys, is this a good idea? If you think it is, let me know, but if you think it's a waste of time, then I'll drop the idea.
Yeah man keep it up, im on cyan but if your saying the other roms are quicker ima give it a go!!
Might I add, try and link to as many pages as you can!!!
In my opinion this idea is good. There are many roms for the g1 available atm...
But i would modify it a bit:
I would prefer a kind of table or database with a quick overview about the current ROMs.
Having this, u can still make recommondations.
Example:
ROM: Eclair_2.1-v1.5 G1
dev: manup456
base: 2.1
devices: MT3G 32B
Features: Camera, LWP [...]
Issues: FC latin_ime [...]
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In addition, we could maybe collect ratings (poll?) on facts like speed, look, stability... so that everybody can pick his rom according to his personal criterias...
Che123 said:
In my opinion this idea is good. There are many roms for the g1 available atm...
But i would modify it a bit:
I would prefer a kind of table or database with a quick overview about the current ROMs.
Having this, u can still make recommondations.
Example:
ROM: Eclair_2.1-v1.5 G1
dev: manup456
base: 2.1
devices: MT3G 32B
Features: Camera, LWP [...]
Issues: FC latin_ime [...]
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In addition, we could maybe collect ratings (poll?) on facts like speed, look, stability... so that everybody can pick his rom according to his personal criterias...
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Yeah, this is exactly what I'm aiming for. It's sorta similar to the ROM Database at AndroidSpin.com, but it's a different idea. I might actually ask Simon if he can help me with it.
bolmedias said:
Yeah, this is exactly what I'm aiming for. It's sorta similar to the ROM Database at AndroidSpin.com, but it's a different idea. I might actually ask Simon if he can help me with it.
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But at androidspin there are too many details and no userrating. And it's not up2date
ATM there are daily new roms or updates, and the only way to make rom-overview useful is to keep it updated
Sounds very good and if it's kept simple and informative this will be very usefull - not only for newbies
I will keep an eye on that
Che123 said:
But at androidspin there are too many details and no userrating. And it's not up2date
ATM there are daily new roms or updates, and the only way to make rom-overview useful is to keep it updated
Sounds very good and if it's kept simple and informative this will be very usefull - not only for newbies
I will keep an eye on that
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I'm gonna ask Simon if he's interested by this idea, just to see if he is or not. But I will try and maintain this myself, for sure.
The idea is good, but, how do you decide which way is more informative? If you settle on a "feature's list" like Che123 suggested, then you take out the actual experiences of people who've used the roms out. On the other hand, if you approach it like you first did, stating your opinion on which roms are best suited for what, then the information is narrow (limited only to the roms YOU've tried), subjective, and (some might argue) possibly skewed. A combination of both, I'm afraid, would ultimately pick up more of the flaws of either method than the benefits.
I personally believe the problem lies in the solution not being so clear-cut. There's just too many roms for all of them to be drastically different, and most often the difference between them is the availability of feature(a) against feature(b). In some cases, the only difference is the developer, or the name of the rom! (but just a few cases.)
I think an approach that might work, maybe, would be to make a list with:
ROM Name:
Feature 1: [X]
Feature 2: [X]
Feature 3: [X]
Feature .: [X]
Feature .: [X]
Feature .: [X]
Feature n: [X]
Highlights:
Opinions:
Features 1-n would be what we consider standard on roms (a2sd, compcache, swap, etc). We'd list highlights with things that actually make the rom different from others, for example, WG's kernel against CM's kernel, or X's themed rom as opposed to Y's un-themed rom, etc.
Opinions is where the meat would be. User experiences would be listed so that we know to expect force-closes, or slowdowns, reboots, or maybe just a smooth-sailing all around. Might even be a long comment section for different users and with an option to separate good opinions from bad opinions from neutral opinions so that we can read all the bad or all the good in one fell swoop rather than have to follow through the usual ranting and fighting that goes on at the forum already.
Anyway, I'm rooting for this, I just wish it were easier.
And to further add to what you suggested in your original post; another field that describes "Target Audience:" (Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced, Multimedia, Professional, Linux Power-User, etc.).
Fount this over in the Sapphire section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618220
It looks nice so far but is still short of data...
Maybe you're interestet in collaborating with him?
jubeh said:
The idea is good, but, how do you decide which way is more informative? If you settle on a "feature's list" like Che123 suggested, then you take out the actual experiences of people who've used the roms out. On the other hand, if you approach it like you first did, stating your opinion on which roms are best suited for what, then the information is narrow (limited only to the roms YOU've tried), subjective, and (some might argue) possibly skewed. A combination of both, I'm afraid, would ultimately pick up more of the flaws of either method than the benefits.
I personally believe the problem lies in the solution not being so clear-cut. There's just too many roms for all of them to be drastically different, and most often the difference between them is the availability of feature(a) against feature(b). In some cases, the only difference is the developer, or the name of the rom! (but just a few cases.)
I think an approach that might work, maybe, would be to make a list with:
ROM Name:
Feature 1: [X]
Feature 2: [X]
Feature 3: [X]
Feature .: [X]
Feature .: [X]
Feature .: [X]
Feature n: [X]
Highlights:
Opinions:
Features 1-n would be what we consider standard on roms (a2sd, compcache, swap, etc). We'd list highlights with things that actually make the rom different from others, for example, WG's kernel against CM's kernel, or X's themed rom as opposed to Y's un-themed rom, etc.
Opinions is where the meat would be. User experiences would be listed so that we know to expect force-closes, or slowdowns, reboots, or maybe just a smooth-sailing all around. Might even be a long comment section for different users and with an option to separate good opinions from bad opinions from neutral opinions so that we can read all the bad or all the good in one fell swoop rather than have to follow through the usual ranting and fighting that goes on at the forum already.
Anyway, I'm rooting for this, I just wish it were easier.
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I think the soloution is a mix of everything: Facts, general user rating and your recommondation.
A featurelist for the common features, like you mentioned above are a good idea too...
If we got all the features-data in a database we could also build a automatic rom-chooser
i would add following things to the list:
Base: (there are currently 1.6, 2.0, 2.01, 2.1)
Supported Devices: (there are always people flashing a wrong rom and wondering why it's not working )
and a link to the thread of course.
domenukk said:
Fount this over in the Sapphire section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618220
It looks nice so far but is still short of data...
Maybe you're interestet in collaborating with him?
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I wasn't really intent on doing a piece of software, and besides, it misses the point.
Jubeh, I think that you've hit the nail on the head there. What I'm thinking of with this thread was to eliminate the need for people to read through each individual ROM's thread in order to find out if there are any problems, how fast it is, basically exactly what you've suggested. It's about user experiences.
Actually doing this as a forum thread will be quite difficult, though. Any ideas on how we could do it?
which are the differences between cfs wg build and bfs wg build?
marcocrash said:
which are the differences between cfs wg build and bfs wg build?
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Stability and Speed. BFS makes for a faster ROM, but Wes himself has said that there is an issue with memory leakage. CFS is not as quick, but it's far more stable.
This is the exact sort of question that I want this thread to answer about each ROM.
i don't really like the idea of an desktop app either.
I would like to see something web-based. But as you said: This won't be very good as forum thread. Maybe you could ask someone from xda, if they are willing to give you same webspace for this project. Maybe in cooperation with other users you could build a database for all kind of devices
Somebody could develop an app thats based on the database of the software maybe?
for afaik his software uses some sort oft sql. maybe eaven mysql. have a look web developers
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618220
Stability and Speed. BFS makes for a faster ROM, but Wes himself has said that there is an issue with memory leakage
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Wes himself uses BFS+Ramhack, according to his signature
OpenVPN
Please add that OpenVPN works out of the box in Cyanogen ROM, just install Tunneldroid or openvpnGUI.
In Dwang, it could support it, but you need to overwrite some libraries and add openssl and crypto libraries, thou Dwang rom has TUN built into the kernel.
I have not tried OpenVPN on super-D or WG.
Hi guys. Hopefully this is the correct board to post in. I'm a former fan of CyanogenMod. I used the old CyanogenMod builds that ran Android 2.1, but when 2.2 came out, I jumped to a rooted stock 2.2 ROM.
After trying CyanogenMod 6, I'm pretty disappointed. It felt much slower than stock, and it no longer had the CyanogenMod feel.
Anyhow, are there any developers that actually make clean and stable ROMs? With every N1 ROM I've looked at, the developers seem obsessed with changing the Android GUI around, and not adding more important features.
There really seems to be no ROM that keeps the default Android GUI look and feel, but adds things like a percentage in the battery icon, a white-on-black Messaging app tweak, and some of the under-the-hood performance tweaks.
Maybe I'm just angry, and maybe no one shares the same sentiments as me, but I'm just curious to hear back from others. Am I going to have to bake my own ROM to get what I want?
Thanks in advance anyone who took the time to read my rant.
Edit: I wanted to note, after seeing a friend's Motorola Droid with the BuglessBeast 2.2 ROM on it, that looks like almost exactly what I'm looking for. Unfortunately, that seems to be a Droid-specific ROM.
Push Mms.apk from latest CM6.0.0-RC1 to whatever ROM you wish, and you got the black background in MMS.
There are some close-to-stock ROMs, like Geo411m's.
Personally, I use LeoFroyo with black bar until CM supports SD-EXT in framework, that would be a good enough reason to switch. I'm already tempted to switch to have browser enhancements, but I don't feel it's a good enough reason by itself. For some reason, Browser.apk crashes when pushed, probably has some CM-only framework dependencies.
I'm a fan of Kang o Rama
I'm really liking Geo411m's ROM, aside from the trackball-unlock (no way to disable it as far as I can find?).
Maybe I should just learn to bake my own ROMs-- I don't really want much past the stock ROM, just a couple things, really.
There wouldn't happen to be any informative threads on how to do so? I looked around but couldn't find much.
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Push Mms.apk from latest CM6.0.0-RC1 to whatever ROM you wish, and you got the black background in MMS.
There are some close-to-stock ROMs, like Geo411m's.
Personally, I use LeoFroyo with black bar until CM supports SD-EXT in framework, that would be a good enough reason to switch. I'm already tempted to switch to have browser enhancements, but I don't feel it's a good enough reason by itself. For some reason, Browser.apk crashes when pushed, probably has some CM-only framework dependencies.
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Thanks for this.. i was just about to start a thread about how to get black background.
ExodusC said:
Hi guys. Hopefully this is the correct board to post in. I'm a former fan of CyanogenMod. I used the old CyanogenMod builds that ran Android 2.1, but when 2.2 came out, I jumped to a rooted stock 2.2 ROM.
After trying CyanogenMod 6, I'm pretty disappointed. It felt much slower than stock, and it no longer had the CyanogenMod feel.
Anyhow, are there any developers that actually make clean and stable ROMs? With every N1 ROM I've looked at, the developers seem obsessed with changing the Android GUI around, and not adding more important features.
There really seems to be no ROM that keeps the default Android GUI look and feel, but adds things like a percentage in the battery icon, a white-on-black Messaging app tweak, and some of the under-the-hood performance tweaks.
Maybe I'm just angry, and maybe no one shares the same sentiments as me, but I'm just curious to hear back from others. Am I going to have to bake my own ROM to get what I want?
Thanks in advance anyone who took the time to read my rant.
Edit: I wanted to note, after seeing a friend's Motorola Droid with the BuglessBeast 2.2 ROM on it, that looks like almost exactly what I'm looking for. Unfortunately, that seems to be a Droid-specific ROM.
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There is no one ROM that is perfect for everyone. Maybe you guys are new to Android and this is your first device. Maybe you've just been spoiled with the variety of developer support... but most of us former G1 owners who rooted were very adept at picking bits from various ROMs and pushing those bits into a developed ROM that was already largely what we were looking for. I remember downloading and pulling out frameworks, changing icons, pulling/pushing apps, etc. That way, you end up with EXACTLY what you want. Perfect example... I was reading comments on Engadget to Cyanogen's latest Froyo build for the G1, and some ass complained about the "ugly" rounded notification bar. All he has to do is push over one or two files from any of a gazillion other ROMs and he'd have his original notification bar back.
Think of custom ROMs as a starting point... and then find and push the parts of other ROMs that you really like over a good custom ROM. You'll learn a lot and end up self-sufficient. You'll probably also feel very proud of doing some of the work personally.
ummm, what exactly is wrong with MoDaCo ROMs? modaco's philosophy is being as close as possible to a stock ROM, with just a few improved tweaks. modaco ROMs are like stock ROMs. you tried this?
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There is no one ROM that is perfect for everyone. Maybe you guys are new to Android and this is your first device. Maybe you've just been spoiled with the variety of developer support... but most of us former G1 owners who rooted were very adept at picking bits from various ROMs and pushing those bits into a developed ROM that was already largely what we were looking for. I remember downloading and pulling out frameworks, changing icons, pulling/pushing apps, etc. That way, you end up with EXACTLY what you want. Perfect example... I was reading comments on Engadget to Cyanogen's latest Froyo build for the G1, and some ass complained about the "ugly" rounded notification bar. All he has to do is push over one or two files from any of a gazillion other ROMs and he'd have his original notification bar back.
Think of custom ROMs as a starting point... and then find and push the parts of other ROMs that you really like over a good custom ROM. You'll learn a lot and end up self-sufficient. You'll probably also feel very proud of doing some of the work personally.
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I agree 100%.
You'll probably like this
ExodusC said:
Hi guys. Hopefully this is the correct board to post in. I'm a former fan of CyanogenMod. I used the old CyanogenMod builds that ran Android 2.1, but when 2.2 came out, I jumped to a rooted stock 2.2 ROM.
After trying CyanogenMod 6, I'm pretty disappointed. It felt much slower than stock, and it no longer had the CyanogenMod feel.
Anyhow, are there any developers that actually make clean and stable ROMs? With every N1 ROM I've looked at, the developers seem obsessed with changing the Android GUI around, and not adding more important features.
There really seems to be no ROM that keeps the default Android GUI look and feel, but adds things like a percentage in the battery icon, a white-on-black Messaging app tweak, and some of the under-the-hood performance tweaks.
Maybe I'm just angry, and maybe no one shares the same sentiments as me, but I'm just curious to hear back from others. Am I going to have to bake my own ROM to get what I want?
Thanks in advance anyone who took the time to read my rant.
Edit: I wanted to note, after seeing a friend's Motorola Droid with the BuglessBeast 2.2 ROM on it, that looks like almost exactly what I'm looking for. Unfortunately, that seems to be a Droid-specific ROM.
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Try Modaco's roms, their basically stock, just rooted. His was the first one I tried, but I switched to evil because I like black status bar and theme. Modaco's roms are not themed, and the same way stock is set up his is set up, nothing extra. If I did'nt like my roms themed, I would definitely rock one of his for sure.
Using geomod411's rom myself. Added a2ext support and it's all good. It's practically stock so I'll be looking to add things like black mms later.
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Push Mms.apk from latest CM6.0.0-RC1 to whatever ROM you wish, and you got the black background in MMS.
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I tried this but it didn't work. I had to push it from Recovery because when the phone was on I kept getting an error about it being read-only.
adb push Mms.apk /system/app/Mms.apk
Worked in recovery... but my text messaging interface has not changed. It's still the stock/white.
EDIT: Did it a ghetto way. Used Root Explorer, removed /system/app/Mms.apk -- then installed the Mms.apk that I pulled out of the CM6 zip. That worked.
Are you seriously complaining about Cyanogens CM6 RC1?... You do know what RC1 means right?
Anyway, CM6 is the best release of 2.2 for N1 out there.. it's just in a working stage now and there are allot of things to fix... that's why it is a Release Candidate... and it was in Alpha testing not long ago.
If you want a clean and simple go back to stock...
blas4me said:
Try Modaco's roms, their basically stock, just rooted. His was the first one I tried, but I switched to evil because I like black status bar and theme. Modaco's roms are not themed, and the same way stock is set up his is set up, nothing extra. If I did'nt like my roms themed, I would definitely rock one of his for sure.
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I use modaco with desire theme. You can add any theme you want with metamorph.
*deep breath* I apologize in advance to the mods if this starts off yet another ROM flamestorm, but here goes.
I was running the original leaked froyo build, but it was having issues with slowness and just not being responsive, so I decided to look into something more up to date for my phone.
Did a bunch of quick reading and decided that Perception seemed to be rich on features, and being on beta 9 a good history of active dev support, so I loaded it up.
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what I got reminded me of something a PC warez group would put out for a keygen app. I don't want to see an advertisement for the dev on the lock screen, etc. Don't want to put down the efforts the dev(s) put into the release, but it's got waaaaay too much bling for my taste.
Can anyone give recommendations for a ROM that's solid, and actively maintained to add in new features to benefit it - that doesn't have a bunch of l33t bling?
Once again apologies if this caused headaches for the mods, but asking general consensus that does keep current on dev for this device and explaining what I don't want seems to be an efficient way to do this.
Thanks
Other than that advertisement on the lockscreen did anything else bother you?
you CAN flash different lockscreens
All custom roms have their own personality. I think based on your comments you may like assonance. Be aware though that the top bar had a ginger bread look.
Axura is nice but the boot screen does say axura
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Assonance. No advertising anywhere that I've seen, and it's a very good ROM.
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to be honest, the entire procedure of loading up that rom annoyed me from the beginning. Between some female robot voice saying things I couldn't quite understand while it was doing...something. To the huge logo screen that came up during the load/boot process, to the additional of a dozen or so urban-sounding ringtones that weren't part of the original leaked froyo I was running (yes I know I can go in and delete any offending ringtones) to the fact that it seems any stock wallpapers that weren't garish were removed (solid colours, please?) To the animated advertising on the lock screen, which pushed me over the edge.
I admit I was guilty of not researching in depth, I might have known in advance what I was getting in to. My phone was getting so chunky in just navigating screens and attempting to make phone calls, I needed something. And while I was going thru the hassle, I decided I'd try to get something solid loaded on it.
My phone is my workhorse, I just want something solid, functional and dependable. I have no desire to show it off. I have a Viewsonic G-Tablet that is my playtoy that's I customize and put all the bling on.
But my phone, I want it lean, mean and a bit more functional than the stock Android.
All i900 roms have those ring tones.
Wall papers are all over the internet
As mentioned assonance had no advertisement, or branding
The voices on boot are part of voodoo. The lag fix. really it is a comfort thing. as long as she says something every so often you know things are progressing. Without it you will be wondering why your phone is taking 6 minute to boot
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Try this ROM here. Super stable and very good on battery life.
[ROM][froyo]-di11igaf's Rom v2.5 AND BETA 3.0- 12/16/10
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=848066
Dungeon47 said:
Assonance. No advertising anywhere that I've seen, and it's a very good ROM.
Sent from my Android using the power of my dreams.
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Give the Devs a break. They put a lot of time into making this ROMs and they don't get paid, they do it cuz they like it. You don't have to rant about it, just uninstall it and get something else. And like mcord11758 said, you can customize the lockscreen and ringtones and you can get any wallpaper you want from the internet. An the voice thing only happens the first time you boot up when its applying the lagfix.
I have only tried Cognition (beta 6). There is a boot screen that says cognition, but that's it. You can change boot screens if you want. I feel its a great mix of vanilla and touchwiz. Its super fast, and been amazingly stable. Those voices only happen once, like others said it let's you know you're not bricked, still working.
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The whole point to flashing a custom rom...is to have a good working solid base to work with if you choose to leave it as it is... Since these are Android phones that can easily be modified to your liking (after all isn't that what you are trying to do ? )...and since you are loading a custom rom that has tons of people giving their input on how it looks and what features it has in it...it's really time for you take responsibility of what you are posting and to stop expecting a plain vanilla rom when you can easily see how far along it is in development that one is.
Learn to read and research better before you flash a full featured rom with tons of customization in it. They all have change logs on the OP for you to see what is in it...and if you don't understand what your flashing...then perhaps you should refrain from doing anything like that until you are familiar enough with it. You can post questions about all the roms if you don't understand it's features...you can also read the thread and what folks are saying about it...even if it is as long as it is...This way...you become familiar with it..and how it was developed over time.
Complaining about a very popular rom's features or it's designer because you didn't take the time to research what exactly it has in it or does is childish at best.
If you find my post offensive...or flaming you...I am sorry...but no one twisted your arm to modify your phone..just as no one can force you to read and research before you attempt to modify your phone...but you will be better off doing just that and to learn what it is your attempting...and wanting on your phone...before you flash anything. All of the roms have different features..modems..lag fixes..some are over clocked..some aren't...some have talking voices at boot up..some don't...all this information is available to you....BEFORE you do anything...
Mac
Protip: The majority of the custom rom's are not built for use, but for the dev themselves. If they like it that way, and you don't, too bad.
That being said, CyanogenMod is probably the only one that fully fits your requirements, as it's built from AOSP sources, rather than a modified samsung rom.
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Hi,
I Have searched this forum and saw that there are plenty of rom's made by different people. There are too many to choose from, i wanted to be suggested some nice stable rom's..other than the ones made by CyanogenMod.
Thanks.
Well you're right there are definitely a lot of ROMs especially for the nexus one cyanogen is definitely the most popular but another one that I like is miui you can also check out ROMs made by micromod for example desire port super hybrid but the best way to chose would be to just read around and find a good one you like.
masantula said:
Hi,
I Have searched this forum and saw that there are plenty of rom's made by different people. There are too many to choose from, i wanted to be suggested some nice stable rom's..other than the ones made by CyanogenMod.
Thanks.
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The beauty of of having a rooted phone is trying out all the ROMs. With Amon or Clockwork, it's easy to backup your phone and then switch to a different ROM and see how you like it. If the new one doesn't suit your needs, you can restore back to the previous one and then start looking into trying out another ROM.
Here are my quick reviews on all the ROM's I've tried out so far.
Cyanogen: Most stable of any ROM I've ever tested, even the nightlies are stable. Not as visually appealing as others, but lots's of under the hood tweaking. You can always make it look pretty with other apps and add-ons.
Any of the Sense ROMs: Nice looking, some cool widgets that give you access to things like Facebook, twitter, SMS/MMS, email and scroll able contacts list right on the main screen. These ROMs are large though, they will eat up a lot of storage memory just being installed, and that's before you've installed any of your own apps. None have been as stable as Cyanogen for me yet though.
Any MIUI: If you've ever used an iOS device and noticed how smooth the screens scroll and transition from one to the other, MIUI come close to that smoothness, but so far for me, even less stable than Sense. Lot's of customization options available though.
For me, after having tested out all the ROM's that I have, I always end up going back to Cyanogen. Sure it's not as visually appealing as Sense or MIUI, but it's stability and frequency of updates (if you use the nightlies) more than makes up for that, IMHO. One thing about the Android platform that is great, is than you can always add more visual flare to a boring interface using market app and apps that you'll find here on XDA. My best advice though is test them all out yourself, not everyone likes the same things, and you have to test them for yourself to see what works for you.
garfnodie said:
The beauty of of having a rooted phone is trying out all the ROMs. With Amon or Clockwork, it's easy to backup your phone and then switch to a different ROM and see how you like it. If the new one doesn't suit your needs, you can restore back to the previous one and then start looking into trying out another ROM.
Here are my quick reviews on all the ROM's I've tried out so far.
Cyanogen: Most stable of any ROM I've ever tested, even the nightlies are stable. Not as visually appealing as others, but lots's of under the hood tweaking. You can always make it look pretty with other apps and add-ons.
Any of the Sense ROMs: Nice looking, some cool widgets that give you access to things like Facebook, twitter, SMS/MMS, email and scroll able contacts list right on the main screen. These ROMs are large though, they will eat up a lot of storage memory just being installed, and that's before you've installed any of your own apps. None have been as stable as Cyanogen for me yet though.
Any MIUI: If you've ever used an iOS device and noticed how smooth the screens scroll and transition from one to the other, MIUI come close to that smoothness, but so far for me, even less stable than Sense. Lot's of customization options available though.
For me, after having tested out all the ROM's that I have, I always end up going back to Cyanogen. Sure it's not as visually appealing as Sense or MIUI, but it's stability and frequency of updates (if you use the nightlies) more than makes up for that, IMHO. One thing about the Android platform that is great, is than you can always add more visual flare to a boring interface using market app and apps that you'll find here on XDA. My best advice though is test them all out yourself, not everyone likes the same things, and you have to test them for yourself to see what works for you.
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Thanks you so much for the great advice, i now have the confidence to try other roms and see what best suites me.
Thanks for all the input from everybody else