[Q] Why isn't TB working on my phone? - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

When I start Titanium backup, it asks for super user permission and I grant it. Then this is what I see :
http://i54.tinypic.com/24d3jiw.png
** And it seems like I'm not the only one with this problem. There are several similar threads (example here) in XDA, though theres no real solution or explanation. :S
I do have USB debugging enabled :
http://i54.tinypic.com/24d3jiw.png
And these are all the apps I see on TB :
http://i55.tinypic.com/28cdmxw.png
(and trust me, my phone is rooted. I rooted it myself with the one-click-root program. I can clearly see the ninja icon on menu.)
#Why is this happening? I've tried un-installing / reinstalling, didn't work.
#I've started to think that it might be the root? ( I did the one-click-root thingy) Should I root again? Perhaps a fresh start? As I'm also giving a thought about giving the phone a factory-settings-restore then root and then try again? Any suggestions?
#One more question. Prior to rooting, I did a copy-paste backup of the whole internal SD card to my desktop. Can I consider that as a pre-root backup? As I can I just completely wipe the SD card and then copy from the desktop folder to get back to a pre-root state?

I am guessing you are on stock 2.1 rooted. Have you enabled sideloading? If not I believe that is your error message.
Also, and I am not sure it its needed but have you installed busy box
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Don't worry about the message. It has happened at times with my phone when running different roms. If you are on a captivate rim we don't have the unknown sources box under applications so it doesn't really matter.
This is my captivate. There are many like it but this one is mine.

Sure your phone is rooted properly? How'd you root it? Also enabling side loading apps helps a bit.

musavvir said:
When I start Titanium backup, it asks for super user permission and I grant it. Then this is what I see :
http://i54.tinypic.com/24d3jiw.png
** And it seems like I'm not the only one with this problem. There are several similar threads (example here) in XDA, though theres no real solution or explanation. :S
I do have USB debugging enabled :
http://i54.tinypic.com/24d3jiw.png
And these are all the apps I see on TB :
http://i55.tinypic.com/28cdmxw.png
(and trust me, my phone is rooted. I rooted it myself with the one-click-root program. I can clearly see the ninja icon on menu.)
#Why is this happening? I've tried un-installing / reinstalling, didn't work.
#I've started to think that it might be the root? ( I did the one-click-root thingy) Should I root again? Perhaps a fresh start? As I'm also giving a thought about giving the phone a factory-settings-restore then root and then try again? Any suggestions?
#One more question. Prior to rooting, I did a copy-paste backup of the whole internal SD card to my desktop. Can I consider that as a pre-root backup? As I can I just completely wipe the SD card and then copy from the desktop folder to get back to a pre-root state?
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Click on "problems" button in TB, and let it download busy box, and then restart TiBu. This should resolve ur issue.
By the way, please make sure u have USB debugging option enabled.

The solution was Sideloading!
Enabling sideloading did the trick for me! TB is working fine! Don't know about busybox though, never got downloaded, never was used I guess. But TB is working fine!
Thanks to you, I just got rid of all the at&t bloatware and startup animation thingy! Thanks all!

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is it rooted or not

I just rooted a new captivate (about 2 wks old) using one-click root method. All seemed to go smoothly & SU permission is installed. I still can't sideload (sirius/xm app) or uninstall any at&t apps. I downloaded androidmate, astro & even bought Root Explorer......NO LUCK!!! THE PHONE IS THE SAME, I can't install or uninstall anything. I would just like to install sirius/xm app. Are the new phones patched against rooting? any help is appreciated, thanks!
ice10 said:
I just rooted a new captivate (about 2 wks old) using one-click root method. All seemed to go smoothly & SU permission is installed. I still can't sideload (sirius/xm app) or uninstall any at&t apps. I downloaded androidmate, astro & even bought Root Explorer......NO LUCK!!! THE PHONE IS THE SAME, I can't install or uninstall anything. I would just like to install sirius/xm app. Are the new phones patched against rooting? any help is appreciated, thanks!
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need to enable sideloading first
rsx19 said:
need to enable sideloading first
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thanks for the quick response. how is that done? I rooted the phone because 'sideload wonder machine' wouldn't work. I kept getting this error - 'loader.bat' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
is there something I'm missing. I've viewed dozens of vid tutorials & forum entries., they all said the same thing - 'use swm or root your phone and boom - start downloading apps' Obviously something is being left out. I don't know what steps I'm missing.
In the dev section, somewhere in the first couple of pages there should be a thread titled something like how to enable side loading. In the gen section stickies there is a wiki that had it too.
From a phone on an app
here's where i'm at so far:
1.tried sideload wonder machine, which failed. I kept getting this error:
'loader.bat' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. this led me to step 2
2. used galaxy 'one-click root' to successfully root the phone, & i now have superuser permission accessible. still can't sideload apps, leading to step 3.
3. tried sideloading using andriod browser, which also doesn't work. i keep getting this error:
unable to find a version of the runtime to run this application. (running on winxp 32)
it seems as though my only other option is the adb method using command prompt, but i've avoided this method; i'm new to android and don't want to risk bricking my phone just yet.
is there any other 'simple' way to sideload on a rooted phone?????? i only want to install a few apps.
any help is appreciated, thanks!!!
What I did was go on youtube and watched a tutorial on how to enable third party apps, then searched another video for removing ATT bloatware. This helped me greatly as my captivate was my first android device. Now I have set up all kinds of cool stuff like wireless tethering and the lagfix. youtube really helps because you can watch them do it as you do it!
ice10 said:
it seems as though my only other option is the adb method using command prompt, but i've avoided this method; i'm new to android and don't want to risk bricking my phone just yet.
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adb is the only method I've ever used ... never had a problem and find it hard to believe that sideloading a known app would ever brick the phone by doing it this way.
laxwillsch said:
What I did was go on youtube and watched a tutorial on how to enable third party apps, then searched another video for removing ATT bloatware. This helped me greatly as my captivate was my first android device. Now I have set up all kinds of cool stuff like wireless tethering and the lagfix. youtube really helps because you can watch them do it as you do it!
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startngate said:
adb is the only method I've ever used ... never had a problem and find it hard to believe that sideloading a known app would ever brick the phone by doing it this way.
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thanks for the replies. i just meant i didn't want to mess up the commands & brick the phone. the directions for 'set third party app to 1' etc, seemed confusing for a noob.
laxwillsch - thanks for the info. i went back to youtube & realized i misunderstood the directions. i just had to drop the apk files into tools folder in the sdk and install from there. thanks for all your help guys
um...anyone know how to undo all this if i get rid of this phone? lol

help with titanium backup

okay so i just started to get my phone ready to hack, but when i want to save my apps with titanium it says: your system settings will prevent you from restoring applications. to correct this go to yourphones settings, then in "applications" and tick the "unknown sources" check box.
so i go to settings--->applications---> than i get thismanage applications, running services, development, usp settings.
were is the unknown sources check box?
rar26 said:
okay so i just started to get my phone ready to hack, but when i want to save my apps with titanium it says: your system settings will prevent you from restoring applications. to correct this go to yourphones settings, then in "applications" and tick the "unknown sources" check box.
so i go to settings--->applications---> than i get thismanage applications, running services, development, usp settings.
were is the unknown sources check box?
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You have to enable sideloading. With the captivate it is not available through settings because of at&t
Roms like cognition if you choose to flash it will enable sideloading.
Make sure you get rom. Manager from the market and read up on it
Use appbrain from market to easily restore all apps. Without enabled sideload.
I am a noob as well, but these are key steps before you start messing around especially rom manager
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be careful what you delete using titanium. What ever you do, do not get rid of any Google talk apps
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Okay i have just flashed to cog217. How do we get the samsung widgets back? I like the facebook and swipe!
Sorry for all the questions.
Thanks
Rar26
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mcord11758 said:
be careful what you delete using titanium. What ever you do, do not get rid of any Google talk apps
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It's ok if he does. I have a thread where you can download the 3 necessary .apk's needed for Talk to work properly.
See this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773272
rar26 said:
Okay i have just flashed to cog217. How do we get the samsung widgets back? I like the facebook and swipe!
Sorry for all the questions.
Thanks
Rar26
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You'll have to sideload the widget. Cognition does not have AT&T or Samsung bloatware. I'll attach the facebook widget to this post. As for swype, I don't think it was left out of Cognition, but I'll attach that too.
oh man...thank you a bunch!!
No problem. You're very welcome
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I just restored to cog 2.1.7 and titanium backup isn't restoring the apps, it's been sitting on the first one for about 5 minutes now and hasn't moved on. any suggestions?
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paincorp said:
I just restored to cog 2.1.7 and titanium backup isn't restoring the apps, it's been sitting on the first one for about 5 minutes now and hasn't moved on. any suggestions?
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For the many people who are having problems with Titanium, 3 things:
1 - there is only 1 version of titanium. what makes it the paid version is a text file called titaniumBackupLicense.txt that contains your info. it goes in memory, just like the titaniumbackup folder.
2 - you must have debugging enabled or it goes VERY slow
3 - in titanium, press the menu button, got to preferences. All the way at the bottom is "app processing mode". change to "auto, indirect" and reboot, then run the batch.
I hope this helps
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mcord11758 said:
You have to enable sideloading. With the captivate it is not available through settings because of at&t
Roms like cognition if you choose to flash it will enable sideloading.
Make sure you get rom. Manager from the market and read up on it
Use appbrain from market to easily restore all apps. Without enabled sideload.
I am a noob as well, but these are key steps before you start messing around especially rom manager
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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I have had many phones and have always looked here for improvements. My Captivate Galaxy S is the best one so far. This info about first having to sideload the phone before using Titanium is key. Had I known my phone needs to be flashed in order to use Titanium I would not have purchased it. And all of the other info about odin, appbrain, rom manager, etc is scattered everywhere. There is nothing straight ahead about any of this. And sometimes when people put of good info with good intentions they assume you know all of the terminology and tech talk which is not always the case. Its easy to make a mistake since all these tools are dependent on each other. I want to backup my apps, data, and rom, but I am only willing to go so far and do not want to flash my phone right now since there have been way too many screw ups. I am content to wait for the offical AT&T release of 2.2. Sometimes when someone asks a question he/she runs the risk of being ridiculed for not reading thru everything. I don remember it being so nasty here before. I'll continue to try and FIND and DECIPHER what I need to backup the phone but asking a question can be hazardous to your health.
panflute said:
I have had many phones and have always looked here for improvements. My Captivate Galaxy S is the best one so far. This info about first having to sideload the phone before using Titanium is key. Had I known my phone needs to be flashed in order to use Titanium I would not have purchased it. And all of the other info about odin, appbrain, rom manager, etc is scattered everywhere. There is nothing straight ahead about any of this. And sometimes when people put of good info with good intentions they assume you know all of the terminology and tech talk which is not always the case. Its easy to make a mistake since all these tools are dependent on each other. I want to backup my apps, data, and rom, but I am only willing to go so far and do not want to flash my phone right now since there have been way too many screw ups. I am content to wait for the offical AT&T release of 2.2. Sometimes when someone asks a question he/she runs the risk of being ridiculed for not reading thru everything. I don remember it being so nasty here before. I'll continue to try and FIND and DECIPHER what I need to backup the phone but asking a question can be hazardous to your health.
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first of all. all the info is here. its important to read and understand what it is you are doing before you dive in. I realize that its all scattered around, but just figure out what you want to do and then focus on understanding that one thing. then move on to the next.
secondly. you do not have to flash a rom in order to enable sideloading, have a look in the dev section, or in the apps section. there is a one click decrippler that will enable sideloading, or it can be done manually. It is not hard if you follow directions.
ok
Pirateghost said:
first of all. all the info is here. its important to read and understand what it is you are doing before you dive in. I realize that its all scattered around, but just figure out what you want to do and then focus on understanding that one thing. then move on to the next.
secondly. you do not have to flash a rom in order to enable sideloading, have a look in the dev section, or in the apps section. there is a one click decrippler that will enable sideloading, or it can be done manually. It is not hard if you follow directions.
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Thanks for the reply.
I rooted my Galaxy S, installed the USB drivers, installed NET 4.0. Ran one click OCD and it said it was sucessful. I did this in order make Titanium backup work. But Titanium is still giving a message saying to tick "unknown sources" under applications in order to enable restoring apps, however unknown sources is still nowhere to be found. I only saw the one comment about unknown sources that said i needed to enable side apps to make it visible and that it is not there because of AT&T restrictions. Since i enabled side apps is there something else that Titanium requires to work properly? If I can't get it going what would be a good second choice for making backups? thanks
panflute said:
Thanks for the reply.
I rooted my Galaxy S, installed the USB drivers, installed NET 4.0. Ran one click OCD and it said it was sucessful. I did this in order make Titanium backup work. But Titanium is still giving a message saying to tick "unknown sources" under applications in order to enable restoring apps, however unknown sources is still nowhere to be found. I only saw the one comment about unknown sources that said i needed to enable side apps to make it visible and that it is not there because of AT&T restrictions. Since i enabled side apps am I missing something else? thanks
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The unknown sources checkbox is an i9000 thing. It doesn't appear in regular captivate roms, though you can still do what needs to be done. You have 2 choices, IMO:
1 - Install a rom that is already sideloading-enabled (which is pretty much any rom)
or
2 - Pay for 2 apps that are worth it..... Buy and install Root Explorer.... navigate to /dbdata/databases/com.android.providers.settings/settings.db and copy it to /sdcard. Then, When you try to open it, it'll say you need to buy and install sqlite editor... buy it and install..... go to secure...... line 3, install_non_market_apps.... change the value from 0 to 1, then save and exit. Then, copy it back where you got it from and reboot
panflute said:
Thanks for the reply.
I rooted my Galaxy S, installed the USB drivers, installed NET 4.0. Ran one click OCD and it said it was sucessful. I did this in order make Titanium backup work. But Titanium is still giving a message saying to tick "unknown sources" under applications in order to enable restoring apps, however unknown sources is still nowhere to be found. I only saw the one comment about unknown sources that said i needed to enable side apps to make it visible and that it is not there because of AT&T restrictions. Since i enabled side apps is there something else that Titanium requires to work properly? If I can't get it going what would be a good second choice for making backups? thanks
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Obviously OCD did not work then. I never trust one click methods personally. Go through the process manually
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techmik67 said:
The unknown sources checkbox is an i9000 thing. It doesn't appear in regular captivate roms, though you can still do what needs to be done. You have 2 choices, IMO:
1 - Install a rom that is already sideloading-enabled (which is pretty much any rom)
or
2 - Pay for 2 apps that are worth it..... Buy and install Root Explorer.... navigate to /dbdata/databases/com.android.providers.settings/settings.db and copy it to /sdcard. Then, When you try to open it, it'll say you need to buy and install sqlite editor...... go to secure...... line 3, install_non_market_apps.... change the value from 0 to 1, then save and exit. Then, copy it back where you got it from and reboot
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I personally did #2. Works great. Just search for sideloaing on youtube, they have a couple ok videos on the process.
But just remember, make a back up of your original file..!!
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DONE !
Wonderful! Got root explorer and the editor and backuped and edited the db file and now Titanium works. Thanks very much. I am a backup nut and I can't sleep when my computers and phones are not fully recoverable. Now onto Titanium and the rest. Thanks again!
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Wonderful! Got root explorer and the editor and backuped and edited the db file and now Titanium works. Thanks very much. I am a backup nut and I can't sleep when my computers and phones are not fully recoverable. Now onto Titanium and the rest. Thanks again!
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Glad to hear you got it going....
Happy Modding!!

How to restore deleted (stock) System Apps?

Let me apologize first of all as I come from 5 years of using Windows Mobile knwoing what I am doing (cooking ROMs included) and now just got my Galaxy /Android a couple weeks ago and am blank at all of it.
After messing up with some system files and (useless) stock applications (like I removed stk.apk and other stuff) I decided to do a full hardware reset as the phone started getting random crashes.
But after the full reset things only got dramatically worse. I quickly realized all the missing system apps are still missing (I thought they'd be "restored") and basically nothing works, just crashes one after the next, cant use anything.
So, a hardware system reset on the galaxy, doesnt really reset anything except user installed apps and settings... amazing
Can someone please tell me (the idiot here, I know) how to do a real full restore where all system files, all missing files and positively everything gets back in the Tab as it was originally?
What a flippin' nightmare... Thanks in advance very much!
deletion of Stk.apk causes FC's in phone and acore.
if you don't have a backup of this apk, download a rom (like Modaco or Overcome),
open with winzip and extract the Stk.zpk from system/app and push it to /system/app on your Tab using adb (remember set the permissions to 644 after push).
A hardreset NO restores deletions on /system
Note: Other files that are not deleteable in /system/app are: Browser.apk, Email.apk, TouchWiz30Launcher.apk and TwWallpaperChooser.apk
Note (2): For your convenience, i attach the Stk.apk file from Overcome-1.1.3. Try it
Note (3): In order to restore ALL system data and apps, you need to restore a full rom.
bartito said:
deletion of Stk.apk causes FC's in phone and acore.
if you don't have a backup of this apk, download a rom (like Modaco or Overcome),
open with winzip and extract the Stk.zpk from system/app and push it to /system/app on your Tab using adb (remember set the permissions to 644 after push).
A hardreset NO restores deletions on /system
Note: Other files that are not deleteable in /system/app are: Browser.apk, Email.apk, TouchWiz30Launcher.apk and TwWallpaperChooser.apk
Note (2): For your convenience, i attach the Stk.apk file from Overcome-1.1.3. Try it
Note (3): In order to restore ALL system data and apps, you need to restore a full rom.
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OK, first of all a big thanks for both file and info. Aside from the Stk.apk, the biggest thing that made me run into problems was trying to update my Contacts.apk:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907399
things didnt work out for me and even after restoring the original files (Contacts.apk and Contacts.odex) nothing really worked again, reason for wich I tried a system reset.
Now, do I need to re-root the Tab or its still rooted, and can I perform the operations easily with Root Explorer like I did before? You mentioned to use adb and set permissions to 644 after push but, sorry again for the ignorance, I have no clue what adb is nor what/how to set permissions. Pathetic to be ignorant huh?
My last 2 questions are, where could I find the original Contacts.apk and Contacts.odex and if needed a full ROM to do a total restore?... hopefully I wont need to get to that point?...
Thanks a million again.
hi,
try to download overcome-1.1.3, and extract all the deleted apk's from system/app directory. push into the /system/app in your tab.
the apk's of overcome are deodexed (you don't need the .odex files). after that, wipe your data/cache and reboot.
if this don't works, try with roto rom
bartito said:
hi,
try to download overcome-1.1.3, and extract all the deleted apk's from system/app directory. push into the /system/app in your tab.
the apk's of overcome are deodexed (you don't need the .odex files). after that, wipe your data/cache and reboot.
if this don't works, try with roto rom
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Hmmmm thanks again but I think Im beyond all this. I dont have a file manager on my system, just realized I deleted the useless stock one and had repalced it with Root Explorer and ES File Explorer. I have them on my External SD Card to install them again but withou a file manager or an app installer cant get to them. And I tried download an app installer from the Market and get Framework errors non-stop and downloads do not initialize... I think Im beyond a quick fix... how do I get my hands on a stock full ROM to restore everything... and how? What a nightmare... gotta tell you, I love Windows Mobile... I love it... never ran into anything like this in the past 5 years of using it... never...
Thanks again!
use "adb" in order to access to your tab from your desktop pc.
bartito said:
use "adb" in order to access to your tab from your desktop pc.
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Cant. Dont even know if I need Kies installed or not (I did have it installed) but adb just asks me to connect the phone and thats it... its connected aready... this is desperating...
OK I did manage to connect with adb but, how to I install applications? I can navigate to my SD card where I have ES File Explorer and Root Explorer but dont seem to be able to install them... Also if i try to copy Stk.apk I get immediately an failute message... this is crazy...
OK so I managed to install ES File Explorer and Root Explorer with adb... crazy process. It seems my phone is still rooted after the reset. From the phone I copied Stk.apk back to /system/apps where it was before deleted.
But needless to say nothing got fixed... not sure if Stk.apk is now "actually" installed or just there in the folder. But still nothing works and crashes every 10 seconds... logs provider, dialer, phone, framework, contacts... its all a firework of crashes...
Given that you've hard reset your device already, you are pretty much wasting your time trying to "fix" what you broke by messing with /system, and you should really just flash another ROM.
My suggestion would be to follow the advice on this thread.
Regards,
Dave
Yeap, that what i did and it was succesfull. My only issue is that Id like to convert my Tab's file system to ext4 to improve speed and performance and then update to the 1.4Ghz OC Kernel. I have no idea how to do those 2 things... actually Im not sure I understand the difference between a ROM and a Kernel... I assume a Kernel is part of the engine of the ROM itself but I have no idea how to perform the update. I read countless threads and its all scattered info without finding one straight to the point guide on how to do it...
Thanks again
VeEuzUKY said:
Yeap, that what i did and it was succesfull. My only issue is that Id like to convert my Tab's file system to ext4 to improve speed and performance and then update to the 1.4Ghz OC Kernel. I have no idea how to do those 2 things... actually Im not sure I understand the difference between a ROM and a Kernel... I assume a Kernel is part of the engine of the ROM itself but I have no idea how to perform the update. I read countless threads and its all scattered info without finding one straight to the point guide on how to do it...
Thanks again
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Part of your problem is that you are trying to run before you can walk! Your experience with WinMo is of pretty much no use to you in the Linux/Android world, and until you get a better handle of how everything hands together you are always going to feel a little lost.
Personally, since your device is now up and running again, I'd suggest that you hold off doing anything else for while, until you get a chance to catch up with some of the basics. Once you are a little more familiar, you can then start with something simple like flashing the MoDaCo kernel (instructions here) to support EXT4, and to give you access to ClockworkMod recovery.
IMO, whilst EXT4 and O/C kernels will give you a performance boost, they are not as noticeable as jumping from a shipping ROM to one of the JMx development builds that Samsung has put out. If you are running JMI, you should already be feeling that the device has got much snappier.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Part of your problem is that you are trying to run before you can walk! Your experience with WinMo is of pretty much no use to you in the Linux/Android world, and until you get a better handle of how everything hands together you are always going to feel a little lost.
Personally, since your device is now up and running again, I'd suggest that you hold off doing anything else for while, until you get a chance to catch up with some of the basics. Once you are a little more familiar, you can then start with something simple like flashing the MoDaCo kernel (instructions here) to support EXT4, and to give you access to ClockworkMod recovery.
IMO, whilst EXT4 and O/C kernels will give you a performance boost, they are not as noticeable as jumping from a shipping ROM to one of the JMx development builds that Samsung has put out. If you are running JMI, you should already be feeling that the device has got much snappier.
Regards,
Dave
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Yes Dave you are right, right and right again!!! Thank you for the wisdom and advice!!!
The main thing I have understood with today's messy experience was that the actual ROM files are never deleted or damaged as long as you dont access them via a rooted tool and start deleting them. Now I understand that Titanium Backup, Sprint Backup (my favorite), My Backup Pro and others, only back-up and restore what the user installs on top of the ROM itself. So a full "reset" wipes all that data but leaves the ROM files as they always were. If they got damaged in the process, they'll still be damaged till a a full ROM restores all system data, now I get it.
What I still dont get is the issue of bakcing up and restoring. In Windows Mobile, a toll like SPB Backup has a simple option called FULL BACKUP and that backs-up everything on top of the ROM and then restores everything after a full reset on top of the ROM again like it was before. The problem I have with apps like Titanium Backup, Sprint Backup, My Backup Pro, etc... is that there is not a "BACKUP ALL" option... one has to backup "data", "settings", "apps" and I always feel stuff will be left behind and then not restored.
Till I find an app or way to do a simple one-click "backup everything" and then "restore evertything" I always feel vulnerable to changes I make to the Tab that may get it unstable or corrupt and then not being able to be restored properly without a full ROM Flash and then re-installing all from scratch.
With WinMo, I could do all sorts of crazy experiments and tweaking and after that, a registry restore or back-up restore would bring me back my phone to exactly like it was with all my stuff and configuration in a matter of seconds or minutes. Thats what I need to find out with this Tab/Android and then Im ready to be able to explore messing up with this knowing I can always easily go back within minutes to the state I had before with all my apps and settings.
This is what I need to learn next how to do! Trampoline without a safety net is not a good idea. Ive alwways loved WinMo for the ease of backing up and restoring whatever I was doing on my handsets withjout ever worrying to put myself at risk to loose it all. I need to learn this on Android and its definitely more intricate!
just put sdcard into your samsung tab and flash modaco kernel amd it will automatically covert to ext4, after that you can flash the 1.4ghz kernel you wanted.
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instechgainza said:
just put sdcard into your samsung tab and flash modaco kernel amd it will automatically covert to ext4, after that you can flash the 1.4ghz kernel you wanted.
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Sorry, I cant follow you. I put an SD card in and flash modaco kernel? What files do I put on the sd card for this effect?...
VeEuzUKY said:
Sorry, I cant follow you. I put an SD card in and flash modaco kernel? What files do I put on the sd card for this effect?...
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no...you need a kernel to flash via odin, you need sdcard mounted so that it will backup all files automatically while converting to ext4..head over to modaco kernel section amd follow the instruction.
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instechgainza said:
no...you need a kernel to flash via odin, you need sdcard mounted so that it will backup all files automatically while converting to ext4..head over to modaco kernel section amd follow the instruction.
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Where is the modaco kernel section you refer to? I can search for hours and find zilch... these blogs are endless...
VeEuzUKY said:
What I still dont get is the issue of bakcing up and restoring. In Windows Mobile, a toll like SPB Backup has a simple option called FULL BACKUP and that backs-up everything on top of the ROM and then restores everything after a full reset on top of the ROM again like it was before. The problem I have with apps like Titanium Backup, Sprint Backup, My Backup Pro, etc... is that there is not a "BACKUP ALL" option... one has to backup "data", "settings", "apps" and I always feel stuff will be left behind and then not restored.
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What you want is a Nandroid backup, which you can only make from a recovery image like Clockworkmod recovery.
Essentially, this does exactly what you want, but you need to flash a new kernel (e.g. the MoDaCo kernel) which supports Clockwordmod.
Regards,
Dave
bartito said:
deletion of Stk.apk causes FC's in phone and acore.
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i beg to differ about stk.apk fc's your phone. that's the first thing i delete when removing system apps with no fc's
refer to this link about having a bare bones system. stk.apk is for management of multiple sim cards
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barebones
b0ricuaguerrero said:
i beg to differ about stk.apk fc's your phone. that's the first thing i delete when removing system apps with no fc's
refer to this link about having a bare bones system. stk.apk is for management of multiple sim cards
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barebones
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When I delete stk.apk (for me useless useless useless) the first thing that happens immediately is that when I hang-up on a call made or received, the Tab vibrates then freezes for about 5 seconds then tells me the phone application has crashed. I tried this with 2 ROMs now as a test and its guaranteed. More even, if you use a program like SYSTEM APP REMOVER you can emulate the removal of an app by disabling it... it only takes me to disable STK and a reboot for the phone not to work. cant get rid of it, that simple

[Q] Help with Bionic System App Restore!

Hey all - hopefully I'm not wrong in posting this quesiton - I tried to go through everything I could before posting. (also, first post here )
Okay, so I got a Bionic on release day.. was excited to see that the D3 exploit worked with no problem.
I backed up everything that I messed with using TI Backup Pro- I realize in hindsight that I should have been "Freezing" instead of "uninstalling" bloatware, but it's too late for that.
(To be fair, I'm going from an OG Droid, so I have no experience with having to wade through the ton of bloatware that came on the Bionic).
So, that being said, I only uninstalled a few apps, but it included MyAccounts (a blur program) - I mistook it for a piece of Verizon junk. Now, my "Accounts and Sync" Setting has disappeared.
I thought "Okay, no problem, I'll just restore from TI Backup" - but no dice. It just hangs on "restoring MyAcounts..." I've tried both with and without "System data." I've also tried changing the App handling options (direct, indirect, classic) but nothing.
So I manually pulled the apk out of the TI Backup .tar file - using Root Explorer I moved it to system/app and, after setting permissions, tried to run it... all I get is an "Installation Failed" type message.
I've also tried to adb install it, but I get an INSTALL_FAILED_DEXOPT message.
Same error message with "pm install" from adb shell#
I'm relatively new with this, and I'm kind of out of ideas. I know you'll want to say "you shouldnt have been screwing around with that if you didn't know what you were doing!" And you're right.. I guess I was too sure that TI Backup would be able to fix anything that I screwed up.
So - any ideas? Pretty much willing to try anything.
Thanks a lot
timmyc99 said:
Hey all - hopefully I'm not wrong in posting this quesiton - I tried to go through everything I could before posting. (also, first post here )
Okay, so I got a Bionic on release day.. was excited to see that the D3 exploit worked with no problem.
I backed up everything that I messed with using TI Backup Pro- I realize in hindsight that I should have been "Freezing" instead of "uninstalling" bloatware, but it's too late for that.
(To be fair, I'm going from an OG Droid, so I have no experience with having to wade through the ton of bloatware that came on the Bionic).
So, that being said, I only uninstalled a few apps, but it included MyAccounts (a blur program) - I mistook it for a piece of Verizon junk. Now, my "Accounts and Sync" Setting has disappeared.
I thought "Okay, no problem, I'll just restore from TI Backup" - but no dice. It just hangs on "restoring MyAcounts..." I've tried both with and without "System data." I've also tried changing the App handling options (direct, indirect, classic) but nothing.
So I manually pulled the apk out of the TI Backup .tar file - using Root Explorer I moved it to system/app and, after setting permissions, tried to run it... all I get is an "Installation Failed" type message.
I've also tried to adb install it, but I get an INSTALL_FAILED_DEXOPT message.
Same error message with "pm install" from adb shell#
I'm relatively new with this, and I'm kind of out of ideas. I know you'll want to say "you shouldnt have been screwing around with that if you didn't know what you were doing!" And you're right.. I guess I was too sure that TI Backup would be able to fix anything that I screwed up.
So - any ideas? Pretty much willing to try anything.
Thanks a lot
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Just wanted to let you know, I have a similar issue and have been troubleshooting this problem on a different forum, ofc I can't post the link but it's at droidforums.net, Droid Bionic Tech Support, "HELP! accidentally deleted IMSCServer from Droid Bionic." Someone was actually able to restore a system app, check it out if you're interested.

[Q] Need help rooting

I've got a Samsung Galaxy Ace GT-S5830 with:
Android version 2.3.6
Baseband version S5830XWKT8
Kernel version 2.6.35.7-1190851 [email protected]#1 Mon Sep 3 16:00:05 KST 2012
Build number GINGERBREAD.BGKT4.
I want to root it so I can unlock it and delete some useless pre-installed apps.
I've tried to root it following quite a few tutorials here on XDA (including various zip updates) but all I got was a useless superuser app without root permissions.
I think that's because the version I have is no longer compatible with those methods, but I don't know.
So I want to ask: Is there any method, no matter how hard it is, able to definitely root a Samsung Galaxy Ace GT-S5830 with android 2.3.6?
And in the case it isn't possible, do you know if I take it to one of those "repairs" shops they could at least unlock it? or do they use the same methods?
Thanks!
To start, you need to say what firmware you are running, baseband etc
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First of all WRONG SECTION!!!
THERE IS A GREAT Q&A THREAD AND A BEAUTIFULL THREAD ABOUT RULES, SO PLEASE READ IT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239030&page=3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43193801
so
1. flash this file
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1281452&d=1345874726
2. flash root.zip file that I provided to you
PJ147 said:
To start, you need to say what firmware you are running, baseband etc
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I think it's done now. If there's anything else I can provide, I'll be glad to do so if that helps.
Viper The Ripper said:
First of all WRONG SECTION!!!
THERE IS A GREAT Q&A THREAD AND A BEAUTIFULL THREAD ABOUT RULES, SO PLEASE READ IT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239030&page=3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43193801
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I tried to post it in the correct place but if I did it wrong, my apologies. Anyway the post is now created and I don't think multiposting would be any better so let's hope some mod will see this and move it to the right place.
I'm going to try what you suggested. I'll edit later with the results, tanks.
andreuec said:
I think it's done now. If there's anything else I can provide, I'll be glad to do so if that helps.
I tried to post it in the correct place but if I did it wrong, my apologies. Anyway the post is now created and I don't think multiposting would be any better so let's hope some mod will see this and move it to the right place.
I'm going to try what you suggested. I'll edit later with the results, tanks.
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Ok! don't worry about that I reported it to mods
Good luck and yes, report then what's happend with your phone
Well, I Installed CWM, tried Delete_thinkdroid.zip (didn't do anything. Think free office is still installed and working), upd_1.zip, acegingerroot.zip, gingerbred-2.3.6-root.zip, CF-Root-S5830-v3.7-b84.zip, b84-fixed.zip and still no root.
Now, my phone boots with a blue triangle in the top left corner but that's all.
upd_1.zip gave the following error:
Code:
E:Error in /sdcard/upd_1.zip
(Status 7)
Installation aborted.
gingerbred-2.3.6-root.zip did the same but changing the name:
Code:
E:Error in /sdcard/gingerbred-2.
3.6-root.zip
(Status 7)
Installation aborted.
acegingerroot.zip and CF-Root-S5830-v3.7-b84.zip seemed to install correctly but with no effect.
b84-fixed.zip aborted installation almost immediately.
Do I need to get a new version of my system? Like that firmware and roms things? I'm really lost
andreuec said:
Well, I Installed CWM, tried Delete_thinkdroid.zip (didn't do anything. Think free office is still installed and working), upd_1.zip, acegingerroot.zip, gingerbred-2.3.6-root.zip, CF-Root-S5830-v3.7-b84.zip, b84-fixed.zip and still no root.
Now, my phone boots with a blue triangle in the top left corner but that's all.
upd_1.zip gave the following error:
Code:
E:Error in /sdcard/upd_1.zip
(Status 7)
Installation aborted.
gingerbred-2.3.6-root.zip did the same but changing the name:
Code:
E:Error in /sdcard/gingerbred-2.
3.6-root.zip
(Status 7)
Installation aborted.
acegingerroot.zip and CF-Root-S5830-v3.7-b84.zip seemed to install correctly but with no effect.
b84-fixed.zip aborted installation almost immediately.
Do I need to get a new version of my system? Like that firmware and roms things? I'm really lost
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no. that you need is to liberate memory space to push root files to /system
Blue triangle is good don't worry (cfroot kernel installed )
Cfroot b84 fix isn't flashable through CWM, normal that your device aborted the installation
Your error message is because your sdcard is corrupted, so copy all your data from your sdcard to your pc using an USB adapter.
Then format your sdcard using windows in Fat32 format (you can do it using your phone and selecting format your sdcard in settings )
Copy the files again and flash it when you have free space
I'm going to provide you a script to delete a serius app, wait a moment
Viper The Ripper said:
no. that you need is to liberate memory space to push root files to /system
Blue triangle is good don't worry (cfroot kernel installed )
Cfroot b84 fix isn't flashable through CWM, normal that your device aborted the installation
Your error message is because your sdcard is corrupted, so copy all your data from your sdcard to your pc using an USB adapter.
Then format your sdcard using windows in Fat32 format (you can do it using your phone and selecting format your sdcard in settings )
Copy the files again and flash it when you have free space
I'm going to provide you a script to delete a serius app, wait a moment
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Well it's here!
When you finish with your sdcard (format in Fat32) try the attached file and report then
1. Flash it "install form sdcard"
2. Then flash root.zip
It'll delete Thinkfree, it's enough.
I have prepared a script (EXTREME) that remove Maps, Gmail, Thinkfree, SamsungApps and Youtube All those apps can be downloaded from Google Paly Store
Viper The Ripper said:
Well it's here!
When you finish with your sdcard (format in Fat32) try the attached file and report then
1. Flash it "install form sdcard"
2. Then flash root.zip
It'll delete Thinkfree, it's enough.
I have prepared a script (EXTREME) that remove Maps, Gmail, Thinkfree, SamsungApps and Youtube All those apps can be downloaded from Google Paly Store
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You are officially my new idol!
Got it rooted! At last!
I think it was a memory problem as you said, because I formatted the SD card, ran the script and everything worked fine like a charm!
I've already unlocked my phone and all!
Dude you're amazing! Thank you so much for all the dedication, I really appreciate that.
Thanks!
andreuec said:
You are officially my new idol!
Got it rooted! At last!
I think it was a memory problem as you said, because I formatted the SD card, ran the script and everything worked fine like a charm!
I've already unlocked my phone and all!
Dude you're amazing! Thank you so much for all the dedication, I really appreciate that.
Thanks!
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Great! :good:
You're welcome
I advised you to reflash cfroot b84 kernel just to avoid troubles if it wasn't be installed properly
1.Flash cf-root b84 via CWM
2.Boot android and look at an app CWM, in this app select "flash kernel" and select cfroot b84 FIX (this part fix bootanimation trouble)
I'm glad you achieved it
Viper The Ripper said:
Great! :good:
You're welcome
I advised you to reflash cfroot b84 kernel just to avoid troubles if it wasn't be installed properly
1.Flash cf-root b84 via CWM
2.Boot android and look at an app CWM, in this app select "flash kernel" and select cfroot b84 FIX (this part fix bootanimation trouble)
I'm glad you achieved it
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I had no boot animation problems, but anyway, done that.
A little problem i just noticed is that after reinstalling Gmail and Youtube (after deleting them with the script) those two apps seem to not be working and send a couple of error messages after booting saying "process com.google.android.youtube" and "process com.google.android.gm" have stopped unexpectedly and giving the option to force close or report... So you know if I can fix that?
EDIT: Google Maps and Think free office work fine...
andreuec said:
I had no boot animation problems, but anyway, done that.
A little problem i just noticed is that after reinstalling Gmail and Youtube (after deleting them with the script) those two apps seem to not be working and send a couple of error messages after booting saying "process com.google.android.youtube" and "process com.google.android.gm" have stopped unexpectedly and giving the option to force close or report... So you know if I can fix that?
EDIT: Google Maps and Think free office work fine...
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You can push those apps in /system partition again using a file browser as root explorer
Viper The Ripper said:
You can push those apps in /system partition again using a file browser as root explorer
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Never mind, I don't know what was the problem but I reinstalled those two apps and now seem to be running fine.
Thanks for everything!!
andreuec said:
Never mind, I don't know what was the problem but I reinstalled those two apps and now seem to be running fine.
Thanks for everything!!
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Ok! Great! :good:
You can do it following the next steps:
You need to set the permissions correctly and delete Gmail.odex and YouTube.odex files if exist in /system/app before paste this new apps
1. Mount /system (R/W) in order to paste the apps
2. Just put the apps in /system/app and set the permissions like this (holding over each file, you'll change permissions)
x-x--
x----
x----
3. Reboot!
It should work
I'm having the same problem (root and get superuser app without root permissions. )but I don't have much of an idea on what to do. I have just swiched over from an iPhone so android is all new.
So my phone info is
Samsung Galaxy Ace GT-S5830 with:
Android version 2.3.6
Baseband version S5830XWKT3
Kernel version [email protected]#1
Build number GINGERBREAD.XWKT7
Can someone please run me through what I need to do to root it (I know how to get the superuser but I need to know if that prepared script (EXTREME) that removes Maps, Gmail, Thinkfree, SamsungApps and Youtube will do the same for me. Also how do you use the script (ie do you "install form sdcard") as you would the root.zip? I just want to remove carrier bloatware than I will unroot again. Or would superoneclick work for me? (nevermind superoneclick as I cant get it to install on computerputer keeps "encountered a problem and needs to close".
Thanks
andreuec said:
I've got a Samsung Galaxy Ace GT-S5830 with:
Android version 2.3.6
Baseband version S5830XWKT8
Kernel version 2.6.35.7-1190851 [email protected]#1 Mon Sep 3 16:00:05 KST 2012
Build number GINGERBREAD.BGKT4.
I want to root it so I can unlock it and delete some useless pre-installed apps.
I've tried to root it following quite a few tutorials here on XDA (including various zip updates) but all I got was a useless superuser app without root permissions.
I think that's because the version I have is no longer compatible with those methods, but I don't know.
So I want to ask: Is there any method, no matter how hard it is, able to definitely root a Samsung Galaxy Ace GT-S5830 with android 2.3.6?
And in the case it isn't possible, do you know if I take it to one of those "repairs" shops they could at least unlock it? or do they use the same methods?
Thanks!
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Why not if you have SuperUser installed? Search Titanium Backup and install it from Play Store. Remove any unnecessary system app using it. Root has nothing to do with removing the system app automatically or through Application Manager. So you will need the third party app like Titanium Backup.
P/S: Becareful with uninstalling/removing system app. Else you will render your phone unusable at all. (To unbrick it you will need more trick, search the thread in XDA to revive your phone)
soralz said:
Why not if you have SuperUser installed? Search Titanium Backup and install it from Play Store. Remove any unnecessary system app using it. Root has nothing to do with removing the system app automatically or through Application Manager. So you will need the third party app like Titanium Backup.
P/S: Becareful with uninstalling/removing system app. Else you will render your phone unusable at all. (To unbrick it you will need more trick, search the thread in XDA to revive your phone)
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Titanium requires root and my superuser wont root I would rather not root at all the only thing I want to get rid of are optus stuff that was preinstalled but doesnt even work on my phone. all the research that I have read says that to remove bloat ware you need to root. (please if I am wrong just point me in the right direction)
Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239030&page=3QUOTE=cmonson;45344745]Titanium requires root and my superuser wont root I would rather not root at all the only thing I want to get rid of are optus stuff that was preinstalled but doesnt even work on my phone. all the research that I have read says that to remove bloat ware you need to root. (please if I am wrong just point me in the right direction)
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Look for in he first page of this thread!
I attached 2 scripts to remove some apps to get free space. Then you could flash root.zip successfully
Here you have ROOT + CWM 5.0.2.6. Fixed files too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239030&page=3
Viper The Ripper said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239030&page=3QUOTE=cmonson;45344745]Titanium requires root and my superuser wont root I would rather not root at all the only thing I want to get rid of are optus stuff that was preinstalled but doesnt even work on my phone. all the research that I have read says that to remove bloat ware you need to root. (please if I am wrong just point me in the right direction)
Thanks
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Look for in he first page of this thread!
I attached 2 scripts to remove some apps to get free space. Then you could flash root.zip successfully
Here you have ROOT + CWM 5.0.2.6. Fixed files too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239030&page=3[/QUOTE]
I used the 2 scripts in the preivous post but it still didnt root properly what else can I do I oonly want to get rid of optus apps that either dont work or I have no use for. I dont want to flash phone as I really dont know what I am doing. the google play store has a superuser app that I have the manual download for but I want to be able to unroot when I'm done (dont want any mishaps and my littleies play with my phone all the time) (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.superuser&hl=en)
Thanks for taking the time to help me.
cmonson said:
Look for in he first page of this thread!
I attached 2 scripts to remove some apps to get free space. Then you could flash root.zip successfully
Here you have ROOT + CWM 5.0.2.6. Fixed files too
I used the 2 scripts in the preivous post but it still didnt root properly what else can I do I oonly want to get rid of optus apps that either dont work or I have no use for. I dont want to flash phone as I really dont know what I am doing. the google play store has a superuser app that I have the manual download for but I want to be able to unroot when I'm done (dont want any mishaps and my littleies play with my phone all the time) (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.superuser&hl=en)
Thanks for taking the time to help me.
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Follow the steps:
1. Here you could find the scripts to remove the apps and get free space (it's compulsory for the last roms to push superuser files)
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2420830
2. You have enough free space now (your apps have been deleted, check it)
Flash ROOT + CWM 5.0.2.6. FIXED files to get root and a custom recovery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239030&page=3
You can flash CWM first if you want

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