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okay so i just started to get my phone ready to hack, but when i want to save my apps with titanium it says: your system settings will prevent you from restoring applications. to correct this go to yourphones settings, then in "applications" and tick the "unknown sources" check box.
so i go to settings--->applications---> than i get thismanage applications, running services, development, usp settings.
were is the unknown sources check box?
rar26 said:
okay so i just started to get my phone ready to hack, but when i want to save my apps with titanium it says: your system settings will prevent you from restoring applications. to correct this go to yourphones settings, then in "applications" and tick the "unknown sources" check box.
so i go to settings--->applications---> than i get thismanage applications, running services, development, usp settings.
were is the unknown sources check box?
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You have to enable sideloading. With the captivate it is not available through settings because of at&t
Roms like cognition if you choose to flash it will enable sideloading.
Make sure you get rom. Manager from the market and read up on it
Use appbrain from market to easily restore all apps. Without enabled sideload.
I am a noob as well, but these are key steps before you start messing around especially rom manager
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be careful what you delete using titanium. What ever you do, do not get rid of any Google talk apps
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Okay i have just flashed to cog217. How do we get the samsung widgets back? I like the facebook and swipe!
Sorry for all the questions.
Thanks
Rar26
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be careful what you delete using titanium. What ever you do, do not get rid of any Google talk apps
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It's ok if he does. I have a thread where you can download the 3 necessary .apk's needed for Talk to work properly.
See this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773272
rar26 said:
Okay i have just flashed to cog217. How do we get the samsung widgets back? I like the facebook and swipe!
Sorry for all the questions.
Thanks
Rar26
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You'll have to sideload the widget. Cognition does not have AT&T or Samsung bloatware. I'll attach the facebook widget to this post. As for swype, I don't think it was left out of Cognition, but I'll attach that too.
oh man...thank you a bunch!!
No problem. You're very welcome
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I just restored to cog 2.1.7 and titanium backup isn't restoring the apps, it's been sitting on the first one for about 5 minutes now and hasn't moved on. any suggestions?
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paincorp said:
I just restored to cog 2.1.7 and titanium backup isn't restoring the apps, it's been sitting on the first one for about 5 minutes now and hasn't moved on. any suggestions?
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For the many people who are having problems with Titanium, 3 things:
1 - there is only 1 version of titanium. what makes it the paid version is a text file called titaniumBackupLicense.txt that contains your info. it goes in memory, just like the titaniumbackup folder.
2 - you must have debugging enabled or it goes VERY slow
3 - in titanium, press the menu button, got to preferences. All the way at the bottom is "app processing mode". change to "auto, indirect" and reboot, then run the batch.
I hope this helps
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You have to enable sideloading. With the captivate it is not available through settings because of at&t
Roms like cognition if you choose to flash it will enable sideloading.
Make sure you get rom. Manager from the market and read up on it
Use appbrain from market to easily restore all apps. Without enabled sideload.
I am a noob as well, but these are key steps before you start messing around especially rom manager
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I have had many phones and have always looked here for improvements. My Captivate Galaxy S is the best one so far. This info about first having to sideload the phone before using Titanium is key. Had I known my phone needs to be flashed in order to use Titanium I would not have purchased it. And all of the other info about odin, appbrain, rom manager, etc is scattered everywhere. There is nothing straight ahead about any of this. And sometimes when people put of good info with good intentions they assume you know all of the terminology and tech talk which is not always the case. Its easy to make a mistake since all these tools are dependent on each other. I want to backup my apps, data, and rom, but I am only willing to go so far and do not want to flash my phone right now since there have been way too many screw ups. I am content to wait for the offical AT&T release of 2.2. Sometimes when someone asks a question he/she runs the risk of being ridiculed for not reading thru everything. I don remember it being so nasty here before. I'll continue to try and FIND and DECIPHER what I need to backup the phone but asking a question can be hazardous to your health.
panflute said:
I have had many phones and have always looked here for improvements. My Captivate Galaxy S is the best one so far. This info about first having to sideload the phone before using Titanium is key. Had I known my phone needs to be flashed in order to use Titanium I would not have purchased it. And all of the other info about odin, appbrain, rom manager, etc is scattered everywhere. There is nothing straight ahead about any of this. And sometimes when people put of good info with good intentions they assume you know all of the terminology and tech talk which is not always the case. Its easy to make a mistake since all these tools are dependent on each other. I want to backup my apps, data, and rom, but I am only willing to go so far and do not want to flash my phone right now since there have been way too many screw ups. I am content to wait for the offical AT&T release of 2.2. Sometimes when someone asks a question he/she runs the risk of being ridiculed for not reading thru everything. I don remember it being so nasty here before. I'll continue to try and FIND and DECIPHER what I need to backup the phone but asking a question can be hazardous to your health.
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first of all. all the info is here. its important to read and understand what it is you are doing before you dive in. I realize that its all scattered around, but just figure out what you want to do and then focus on understanding that one thing. then move on to the next.
secondly. you do not have to flash a rom in order to enable sideloading, have a look in the dev section, or in the apps section. there is a one click decrippler that will enable sideloading, or it can be done manually. It is not hard if you follow directions.
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first of all. all the info is here. its important to read and understand what it is you are doing before you dive in. I realize that its all scattered around, but just figure out what you want to do and then focus on understanding that one thing. then move on to the next.
secondly. you do not have to flash a rom in order to enable sideloading, have a look in the dev section, or in the apps section. there is a one click decrippler that will enable sideloading, or it can be done manually. It is not hard if you follow directions.
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Thanks for the reply.
I rooted my Galaxy S, installed the USB drivers, installed NET 4.0. Ran one click OCD and it said it was sucessful. I did this in order make Titanium backup work. But Titanium is still giving a message saying to tick "unknown sources" under applications in order to enable restoring apps, however unknown sources is still nowhere to be found. I only saw the one comment about unknown sources that said i needed to enable side apps to make it visible and that it is not there because of AT&T restrictions. Since i enabled side apps is there something else that Titanium requires to work properly? If I can't get it going what would be a good second choice for making backups? thanks
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Thanks for the reply.
I rooted my Galaxy S, installed the USB drivers, installed NET 4.0. Ran one click OCD and it said it was sucessful. I did this in order make Titanium backup work. But Titanium is still giving a message saying to tick "unknown sources" under applications in order to enable restoring apps, however unknown sources is still nowhere to be found. I only saw the one comment about unknown sources that said i needed to enable side apps to make it visible and that it is not there because of AT&T restrictions. Since i enabled side apps am I missing something else? thanks
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The unknown sources checkbox is an i9000 thing. It doesn't appear in regular captivate roms, though you can still do what needs to be done. You have 2 choices, IMO:
1 - Install a rom that is already sideloading-enabled (which is pretty much any rom)
or
2 - Pay for 2 apps that are worth it..... Buy and install Root Explorer.... navigate to /dbdata/databases/com.android.providers.settings/settings.db and copy it to /sdcard. Then, When you try to open it, it'll say you need to buy and install sqlite editor... buy it and install..... go to secure...... line 3, install_non_market_apps.... change the value from 0 to 1, then save and exit. Then, copy it back where you got it from and reboot
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Thanks for the reply.
I rooted my Galaxy S, installed the USB drivers, installed NET 4.0. Ran one click OCD and it said it was sucessful. I did this in order make Titanium backup work. But Titanium is still giving a message saying to tick "unknown sources" under applications in order to enable restoring apps, however unknown sources is still nowhere to be found. I only saw the one comment about unknown sources that said i needed to enable side apps to make it visible and that it is not there because of AT&T restrictions. Since i enabled side apps is there something else that Titanium requires to work properly? If I can't get it going what would be a good second choice for making backups? thanks
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Obviously OCD did not work then. I never trust one click methods personally. Go through the process manually
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techmik67 said:
The unknown sources checkbox is an i9000 thing. It doesn't appear in regular captivate roms, though you can still do what needs to be done. You have 2 choices, IMO:
1 - Install a rom that is already sideloading-enabled (which is pretty much any rom)
or
2 - Pay for 2 apps that are worth it..... Buy and install Root Explorer.... navigate to /dbdata/databases/com.android.providers.settings/settings.db and copy it to /sdcard. Then, When you try to open it, it'll say you need to buy and install sqlite editor...... go to secure...... line 3, install_non_market_apps.... change the value from 0 to 1, then save and exit. Then, copy it back where you got it from and reboot
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I personally did #2. Works great. Just search for sideloaing on youtube, they have a couple ok videos on the process.
But just remember, make a back up of your original file..!!
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DONE !
Wonderful! Got root explorer and the editor and backuped and edited the db file and now Titanium works. Thanks very much. I am a backup nut and I can't sleep when my computers and phones are not fully recoverable. Now onto Titanium and the rest. Thanks again!
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Wonderful! Got root explorer and the editor and backuped and edited the db file and now Titanium works. Thanks very much. I am a backup nut and I can't sleep when my computers and phones are not fully recoverable. Now onto Titanium and the rest. Thanks again!
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Glad to hear you got it going....
Happy Modding!!
When I start Titanium backup, it asks for super user permission and I grant it. Then this is what I see :
http://i54.tinypic.com/24d3jiw.png
** And it seems like I'm not the only one with this problem. There are several similar threads (example here) in XDA, though theres no real solution or explanation. :S
I do have USB debugging enabled :
http://i54.tinypic.com/24d3jiw.png
And these are all the apps I see on TB :
http://i55.tinypic.com/28cdmxw.png
(and trust me, my phone is rooted. I rooted it myself with the one-click-root program. I can clearly see the ninja icon on menu.)
#Why is this happening? I've tried un-installing / reinstalling, didn't work.
#I've started to think that it might be the root? ( I did the one-click-root thingy) Should I root again? Perhaps a fresh start? As I'm also giving a thought about giving the phone a factory-settings-restore then root and then try again? Any suggestions?
#One more question. Prior to rooting, I did a copy-paste backup of the whole internal SD card to my desktop. Can I consider that as a pre-root backup? As I can I just completely wipe the SD card and then copy from the desktop folder to get back to a pre-root state?
I am guessing you are on stock 2.1 rooted. Have you enabled sideloading? If not I believe that is your error message.
Also, and I am not sure it its needed but have you installed busy box
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Don't worry about the message. It has happened at times with my phone when running different roms. If you are on a captivate rim we don't have the unknown sources box under applications so it doesn't really matter.
This is my captivate. There are many like it but this one is mine.
Sure your phone is rooted properly? How'd you root it? Also enabling side loading apps helps a bit.
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When I start Titanium backup, it asks for super user permission and I grant it. Then this is what I see :
http://i54.tinypic.com/24d3jiw.png
** And it seems like I'm not the only one with this problem. There are several similar threads (example here) in XDA, though theres no real solution or explanation. :S
I do have USB debugging enabled :
http://i54.tinypic.com/24d3jiw.png
And these are all the apps I see on TB :
http://i55.tinypic.com/28cdmxw.png
(and trust me, my phone is rooted. I rooted it myself with the one-click-root program. I can clearly see the ninja icon on menu.)
#Why is this happening? I've tried un-installing / reinstalling, didn't work.
#I've started to think that it might be the root? ( I did the one-click-root thingy) Should I root again? Perhaps a fresh start? As I'm also giving a thought about giving the phone a factory-settings-restore then root and then try again? Any suggestions?
#One more question. Prior to rooting, I did a copy-paste backup of the whole internal SD card to my desktop. Can I consider that as a pre-root backup? As I can I just completely wipe the SD card and then copy from the desktop folder to get back to a pre-root state?
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Click on "problems" button in TB, and let it download busy box, and then restart TiBu. This should resolve ur issue.
By the way, please make sure u have USB debugging option enabled.
The solution was Sideloading!
Enabling sideloading did the trick for me! TB is working fine! Don't know about busybox though, never got downloaded, never was used I guess. But TB is working fine!
Thanks to you, I just got rid of all the at&t bloatware and startup animation thingy! Thanks all!
Let me apologize first of all as I come from 5 years of using Windows Mobile knwoing what I am doing (cooking ROMs included) and now just got my Galaxy /Android a couple weeks ago and am blank at all of it.
After messing up with some system files and (useless) stock applications (like I removed stk.apk and other stuff) I decided to do a full hardware reset as the phone started getting random crashes.
But after the full reset things only got dramatically worse. I quickly realized all the missing system apps are still missing (I thought they'd be "restored") and basically nothing works, just crashes one after the next, cant use anything.
So, a hardware system reset on the galaxy, doesnt really reset anything except user installed apps and settings... amazing
Can someone please tell me (the idiot here, I know) how to do a real full restore where all system files, all missing files and positively everything gets back in the Tab as it was originally?
What a flippin' nightmare... Thanks in advance very much!
deletion of Stk.apk causes FC's in phone and acore.
if you don't have a backup of this apk, download a rom (like Modaco or Overcome),
open with winzip and extract the Stk.zpk from system/app and push it to /system/app on your Tab using adb (remember set the permissions to 644 after push).
A hardreset NO restores deletions on /system
Note: Other files that are not deleteable in /system/app are: Browser.apk, Email.apk, TouchWiz30Launcher.apk and TwWallpaperChooser.apk
Note (2): For your convenience, i attach the Stk.apk file from Overcome-1.1.3. Try it
Note (3): In order to restore ALL system data and apps, you need to restore a full rom.
bartito said:
deletion of Stk.apk causes FC's in phone and acore.
if you don't have a backup of this apk, download a rom (like Modaco or Overcome),
open with winzip and extract the Stk.zpk from system/app and push it to /system/app on your Tab using adb (remember set the permissions to 644 after push).
A hardreset NO restores deletions on /system
Note: Other files that are not deleteable in /system/app are: Browser.apk, Email.apk, TouchWiz30Launcher.apk and TwWallpaperChooser.apk
Note (2): For your convenience, i attach the Stk.apk file from Overcome-1.1.3. Try it
Note (3): In order to restore ALL system data and apps, you need to restore a full rom.
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OK, first of all a big thanks for both file and info. Aside from the Stk.apk, the biggest thing that made me run into problems was trying to update my Contacts.apk:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907399
things didnt work out for me and even after restoring the original files (Contacts.apk and Contacts.odex) nothing really worked again, reason for wich I tried a system reset.
Now, do I need to re-root the Tab or its still rooted, and can I perform the operations easily with Root Explorer like I did before? You mentioned to use adb and set permissions to 644 after push but, sorry again for the ignorance, I have no clue what adb is nor what/how to set permissions. Pathetic to be ignorant huh?
My last 2 questions are, where could I find the original Contacts.apk and Contacts.odex and if needed a full ROM to do a total restore?... hopefully I wont need to get to that point?...
Thanks a million again.
hi,
try to download overcome-1.1.3, and extract all the deleted apk's from system/app directory. push into the /system/app in your tab.
the apk's of overcome are deodexed (you don't need the .odex files). after that, wipe your data/cache and reboot.
if this don't works, try with roto rom
bartito said:
hi,
try to download overcome-1.1.3, and extract all the deleted apk's from system/app directory. push into the /system/app in your tab.
the apk's of overcome are deodexed (you don't need the .odex files). after that, wipe your data/cache and reboot.
if this don't works, try with roto rom
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Hmmmm thanks again but I think Im beyond all this. I dont have a file manager on my system, just realized I deleted the useless stock one and had repalced it with Root Explorer and ES File Explorer. I have them on my External SD Card to install them again but withou a file manager or an app installer cant get to them. And I tried download an app installer from the Market and get Framework errors non-stop and downloads do not initialize... I think Im beyond a quick fix... how do I get my hands on a stock full ROM to restore everything... and how? What a nightmare... gotta tell you, I love Windows Mobile... I love it... never ran into anything like this in the past 5 years of using it... never...
Thanks again!
use "adb" in order to access to your tab from your desktop pc.
bartito said:
use "adb" in order to access to your tab from your desktop pc.
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Cant. Dont even know if I need Kies installed or not (I did have it installed) but adb just asks me to connect the phone and thats it... its connected aready... this is desperating...
OK I did manage to connect with adb but, how to I install applications? I can navigate to my SD card where I have ES File Explorer and Root Explorer but dont seem to be able to install them... Also if i try to copy Stk.apk I get immediately an failute message... this is crazy...
OK so I managed to install ES File Explorer and Root Explorer with adb... crazy process. It seems my phone is still rooted after the reset. From the phone I copied Stk.apk back to /system/apps where it was before deleted.
But needless to say nothing got fixed... not sure if Stk.apk is now "actually" installed or just there in the folder. But still nothing works and crashes every 10 seconds... logs provider, dialer, phone, framework, contacts... its all a firework of crashes...
Given that you've hard reset your device already, you are pretty much wasting your time trying to "fix" what you broke by messing with /system, and you should really just flash another ROM.
My suggestion would be to follow the advice on this thread.
Regards,
Dave
Yeap, that what i did and it was succesfull. My only issue is that Id like to convert my Tab's file system to ext4 to improve speed and performance and then update to the 1.4Ghz OC Kernel. I have no idea how to do those 2 things... actually Im not sure I understand the difference between a ROM and a Kernel... I assume a Kernel is part of the engine of the ROM itself but I have no idea how to perform the update. I read countless threads and its all scattered info without finding one straight to the point guide on how to do it...
Thanks again
VeEuzUKY said:
Yeap, that what i did and it was succesfull. My only issue is that Id like to convert my Tab's file system to ext4 to improve speed and performance and then update to the 1.4Ghz OC Kernel. I have no idea how to do those 2 things... actually Im not sure I understand the difference between a ROM and a Kernel... I assume a Kernel is part of the engine of the ROM itself but I have no idea how to perform the update. I read countless threads and its all scattered info without finding one straight to the point guide on how to do it...
Thanks again
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Part of your problem is that you are trying to run before you can walk! Your experience with WinMo is of pretty much no use to you in the Linux/Android world, and until you get a better handle of how everything hands together you are always going to feel a little lost.
Personally, since your device is now up and running again, I'd suggest that you hold off doing anything else for while, until you get a chance to catch up with some of the basics. Once you are a little more familiar, you can then start with something simple like flashing the MoDaCo kernel (instructions here) to support EXT4, and to give you access to ClockworkMod recovery.
IMO, whilst EXT4 and O/C kernels will give you a performance boost, they are not as noticeable as jumping from a shipping ROM to one of the JMx development builds that Samsung has put out. If you are running JMI, you should already be feeling that the device has got much snappier.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Part of your problem is that you are trying to run before you can walk! Your experience with WinMo is of pretty much no use to you in the Linux/Android world, and until you get a better handle of how everything hands together you are always going to feel a little lost.
Personally, since your device is now up and running again, I'd suggest that you hold off doing anything else for while, until you get a chance to catch up with some of the basics. Once you are a little more familiar, you can then start with something simple like flashing the MoDaCo kernel (instructions here) to support EXT4, and to give you access to ClockworkMod recovery.
IMO, whilst EXT4 and O/C kernels will give you a performance boost, they are not as noticeable as jumping from a shipping ROM to one of the JMx development builds that Samsung has put out. If you are running JMI, you should already be feeling that the device has got much snappier.
Regards,
Dave
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Yes Dave you are right, right and right again!!! Thank you for the wisdom and advice!!!
The main thing I have understood with today's messy experience was that the actual ROM files are never deleted or damaged as long as you dont access them via a rooted tool and start deleting them. Now I understand that Titanium Backup, Sprint Backup (my favorite), My Backup Pro and others, only back-up and restore what the user installs on top of the ROM itself. So a full "reset" wipes all that data but leaves the ROM files as they always were. If they got damaged in the process, they'll still be damaged till a a full ROM restores all system data, now I get it.
What I still dont get is the issue of bakcing up and restoring. In Windows Mobile, a toll like SPB Backup has a simple option called FULL BACKUP and that backs-up everything on top of the ROM and then restores everything after a full reset on top of the ROM again like it was before. The problem I have with apps like Titanium Backup, Sprint Backup, My Backup Pro, etc... is that there is not a "BACKUP ALL" option... one has to backup "data", "settings", "apps" and I always feel stuff will be left behind and then not restored.
Till I find an app or way to do a simple one-click "backup everything" and then "restore evertything" I always feel vulnerable to changes I make to the Tab that may get it unstable or corrupt and then not being able to be restored properly without a full ROM Flash and then re-installing all from scratch.
With WinMo, I could do all sorts of crazy experiments and tweaking and after that, a registry restore or back-up restore would bring me back my phone to exactly like it was with all my stuff and configuration in a matter of seconds or minutes. Thats what I need to find out with this Tab/Android and then Im ready to be able to explore messing up with this knowing I can always easily go back within minutes to the state I had before with all my apps and settings.
This is what I need to learn next how to do! Trampoline without a safety net is not a good idea. Ive alwways loved WinMo for the ease of backing up and restoring whatever I was doing on my handsets withjout ever worrying to put myself at risk to loose it all. I need to learn this on Android and its definitely more intricate!
just put sdcard into your samsung tab and flash modaco kernel amd it will automatically covert to ext4, after that you can flash the 1.4ghz kernel you wanted.
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instechgainza said:
just put sdcard into your samsung tab and flash modaco kernel amd it will automatically covert to ext4, after that you can flash the 1.4ghz kernel you wanted.
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Sorry, I cant follow you. I put an SD card in and flash modaco kernel? What files do I put on the sd card for this effect?...
VeEuzUKY said:
Sorry, I cant follow you. I put an SD card in and flash modaco kernel? What files do I put on the sd card for this effect?...
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no...you need a kernel to flash via odin, you need sdcard mounted so that it will backup all files automatically while converting to ext4..head over to modaco kernel section amd follow the instruction.
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instechgainza said:
no...you need a kernel to flash via odin, you need sdcard mounted so that it will backup all files automatically while converting to ext4..head over to modaco kernel section amd follow the instruction.
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Where is the modaco kernel section you refer to? I can search for hours and find zilch... these blogs are endless...
VeEuzUKY said:
What I still dont get is the issue of bakcing up and restoring. In Windows Mobile, a toll like SPB Backup has a simple option called FULL BACKUP and that backs-up everything on top of the ROM and then restores everything after a full reset on top of the ROM again like it was before. The problem I have with apps like Titanium Backup, Sprint Backup, My Backup Pro, etc... is that there is not a "BACKUP ALL" option... one has to backup "data", "settings", "apps" and I always feel stuff will be left behind and then not restored.
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What you want is a Nandroid backup, which you can only make from a recovery image like Clockworkmod recovery.
Essentially, this does exactly what you want, but you need to flash a new kernel (e.g. the MoDaCo kernel) which supports Clockwordmod.
Regards,
Dave
bartito said:
deletion of Stk.apk causes FC's in phone and acore.
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i beg to differ about stk.apk fc's your phone. that's the first thing i delete when removing system apps with no fc's
refer to this link about having a bare bones system. stk.apk is for management of multiple sim cards
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barebones
b0ricuaguerrero said:
i beg to differ about stk.apk fc's your phone. that's the first thing i delete when removing system apps with no fc's
refer to this link about having a bare bones system. stk.apk is for management of multiple sim cards
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barebones
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When I delete stk.apk (for me useless useless useless) the first thing that happens immediately is that when I hang-up on a call made or received, the Tab vibrates then freezes for about 5 seconds then tells me the phone application has crashed. I tried this with 2 ROMs now as a test and its guaranteed. More even, if you use a program like SYSTEM APP REMOVER you can emulate the removal of an app by disabling it... it only takes me to disable STK and a reboot for the phone not to work. cant get rid of it, that simple
I ... may have bricked my Droid 4. I won't go into details unless somebody asks, but I don't think it's necessary. I AM able to get to the recovery mode though, I just have nothing to recover from.... I misplaced my back-up.
So, I need SOMETHING to flash my phone to. 4.0/2.0/I don't care, I just need any rom/SBF to make this bad boy boot again. Anybody have anything?
I saw and downloaded the first thing that shows up when you google "droid-4-system-dump-wallpapers-ringtones.html" (link doesn't work because I'm new) But, I was unable to make anything of it.... What do I do?
Just to help others avoid the same fate can you please let us all know what you did?
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Just to help others avoid the same fate can you please let us all know what you did?
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Well, in hindsight it was kind of dumb. I rooted it, and began to remove all of the VZW sponsored apps. Once I did that, it cleared out a lot of memory (storage AND ram) but seemed to come with the downside of preventing my "settings" activity opening up. As in, whenever I hit "menu" then "Settings" from the main launcher, it would force close behind the scenes (logcat showed the stack trace for the settings activity).
I spent the next day trying to fix that issue, copying "settings.apk" from that link I mentioned earlier to my root director, but that didn't fix it. So, I went and tried copying entire folders over. This is the embarrassing part... I hit a 'delete' button on the "system/apps" folder, got about 30 force close windows, and am now stuck in a bootloop.
Doing the "power + both volume buttons" still gives me the recovery menu, but I don't have anything to recover to, as I was stupid and didn't think to make a backup.
Dwebtron said:
Well, in hindsight it was kind of dumb. I rooted it, and began to remove all of the VZW sponsored apps. Once I did that, it cleared out a lot of memory (storage AND ram) but seemed to come with the downside of preventing my "settings" activity opening up. As in, whenever I hit "menu" then "Settings" from the main launcher, it would force close behind the scenes (logcat showed the stack trace for the settings activity).
I spent the next day trying to fix that issue, copying "settings.apk" from that link I mentioned earlier to my root director, but that didn't fix it. So, I went and tried copying entire folders over. This is the embarrassing part... I hit a 'delete' button on the "system/apps" folder, got about 30 force close windows, and am now stuck in a bootloop.
Doing the "power + both volume buttons" still gives me the recovery menu, but I don't have anything to recover to, as I was stupid and didn't think to make a backup.
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No files are floating around at this time. You really screwed yourself over on this one. Go back to Verizon and beg. You chose to void your warranty.
Dwebtron said:
Well, in hindsight it was kind of dumb. I rooted it, and began to remove all of the VZW sponsored apps. Once I did that, it cleared out a lot of memory (storage AND ram) but seemed to come with the downside of preventing my "settings" activity opening up. As in, whenever I hit "menu" then "Settings" from the main launcher, it would force close behind the scenes (logcat showed the stack trace for the settings activity).
I spent the next day trying to fix that issue, copying "settings.apk" from that link I mentioned earlier to my root director, but that didn't fix it. So, I went and tried copying entire folders over. This is the embarrassing part... I hit a 'delete' button on the "system/apps" folder, got about 30 force close windows, and am now stuck in a bootloop.
Doing the "power + both volume buttons" still gives me the recovery menu, but I don't have anything to recover to, as I was stupid and didn't think to make a backup.
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I'm curious about this too - I deleted a bunch of vzw garbage. I did make a copy of of everything with titanium backup first but when I tried re-installing one of them it just hung while another re-installed fine.
I had a similar issue with one app - I had to go into /system/app and change it form RO to RW. Once Read/Write was enabled, Titanium was able to restore the app.
I have been playing it safe and only freezing the apps, not deleting them. I have had no FC or any odd behavior. I figured with an allocated 3 gb to applications, at this time gaining an extra 100MB of storage space is superfluous...especially with no SBF available.
As mentioned above, try going to the VZW store and getting an exchange. I'm certain an .sbf will be released at some point but it could be weeks/months before that happens.
And for future reference/anyone else reading this thread...never delete system apps! Just freeze them. Yes they will still be taking up space, but they won't be using any memory and they won't show up in your launcher so it's basically the same thing...except with freezing it is 100% reversible and will still allow you to receive updates.
Can someone upload these files from D4:
/system/build.prop
/system/default.prop
Freeze Apps
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As mentioned above, try going to the VZW store and getting an exchange. I'm certain an .sbf will be released at some point but it could be weeks/months before that happens.
And for future reference/anyone else reading this thread...never delete system apps! Just freeze them. Yes they will still be taking up space, but they won't be using any memory and they won't show up in your launcher so it's basically the same thing...except with freezing it is 100% reversible and will still allow you to receive updates.
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What is the best way to freeze apps? I know you can do this with Titanium Backup. Do you need the pro version in order to do this? Are there other apps out there that also allow you to freeze apps?
kwyrt said:
What is the best way to freeze apps? I know you can do this with Titanium Backup. Do you need the pro version in order to do this? Are there other apps out there that also allow you to freeze apps?
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You do need the Pro version of Titanium Backup to freeze apps I believe. There are free apps that will do it (i.e. Bloatware Killer) but I am not really familiar with them.
Skrilax_CZ said:
Can someone upload these files from D4:
/system/build.prop
/system/default.prop
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http://db.tt/LymDelkf
That zip contains the 2 files you asked for. Anything else you need just ask and I can pull it for you. I havent done a dd of all the partitons yet but will be doing that as soon as I can.
cellzealot said:
That zip contains the 2 files you asked for. Anything else you need just ask and I can pull it for you. I havent done a dd of all the partitons yet but will be doing that as soon as I can.
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The link that I was referring to in the first post SHOULD have every file from the D4.
I meant if he needed any of the other partitions besides the system.
I wanted to give him exactly what he asked for because he is avery sharp guy who may help us out with this device.
Unfortunately I did the same (though not as bad...I just can't open any of my contacts). I changed the permissions for /system/apps but I still am hanging at restoring in Titanium Backup. Are there any other directories that should have changed permissions to get some of these apps restored?
Also, lesson learned....freeze no uninstall
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No files are floating around at this time. You really screwed yourself over on this one. Go back to Verizon and beg. You chose to void your warranty.
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Yeah so what? Why do people feel the need to post condescending comments for no reason? Its because of mistakes and screwups that the community progresses. There will be files floating around by the weekend, I'm sure.
I'm in the same boat... I bricked by droid 4... now waiting for a sbf file... someone said go to vzw and beg... has anyone ever tried that, after bricking your phone? what did you say? and did it work?
I'm just trying to figure out how to get vzw to replace this phone.
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Yeah so what? Why do people feel the need to post condescending comments for no reason? Its because of mistakes and screwups that the community progresses. There will be files floating around by the weekend, I'm sure.
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The files will be released by the weekend? YAY... how do you know?
Also what does it take/what has to be done for someone to release these sbf files?
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Unfortunately I did the same (though not as bad...I just can't open any of my contacts). I changed the permissions for /system/apps but I still am hanging at restoring in Titanium Backup. Are there any other directories that should have changed permissions to get some of these apps restored?
Also, lesson learned....freeze no uninstall
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That's the only path I had to change. Do you recall if you happened to have moved an app to a different path (perhaps to the sd-card) then removed it?
Are there multiple apps you are trying to restore? If so, have you tried restoring them one at a time?
im going to wait for the sbf files before any major modifications to my phone, then we can all start the fun
i just froze apps to prevent them from running, im not worried about space since i put in a 32GB SD card
I think it's very wise to wait for the firmware to be released, but it's worth noting that the term SBF is a mistaken reference to the old format for firmware files and that all dual core Motorolas have fastboot support now and RSD Lite has been modified to support this and uses xml.zip files that are sets of signed images rather than the Single Binary File(SBF).
This is a very important distinction to be made as the new format and boot menu provide many more options for controlling the flash process for the end user and it is ultimately much safer and more flexible.
I ask because I am a bit stuck... Originally, on my Pixel 2, I would use TWRP nandroid backups. Now that I've upgraded to the P5, I no longer have that option *for the time being (God, I hope they eventually pickup support for Android 11)...
I attempted do my "Plan B" and backup via TitaniumBackup, which I'm able in making the backup successfully (everything but the "media storage" for some reason...), but when I try to copy the TitaniumBackup folder to an external hard drive, I can't get passed "Unspecified error". I've attempted to debug the issue by using different cords and USB ports with no luck. I even went as far as attempting to copy and send it using the app SuperBeam to trying an "adb pull" command -- in which it comes back at me with a "Permission denied" for whatever reason.
So I'm a bit overwhelmed at this vital and supposedly basic thing (backing things up) and am seeking help and/or other methods of backing my Pixel 5 up. Ideally, the backup will be as good as a nandroid backup. I'm a bit anxious and apprehensive because I don't like applying the monthly update without backing things up first -- flashing of any sort makes me cautious in backing things up. But I am prepped and ready and am eager to apply the new update and the new Magisk.
In any case, I thank you for reading the post and thank you in advanced for any/all suggestions...
I use plan B but I use an app called DriveSync to sync the backups to my Google Drive.
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I use plan B but I use an app called DriveSync to sync the backups to my Google Drive.
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Thanks for the suggestion...
I would consider it but I don't have enough space on my Google Drive to hold a full system backup -- which comes out to over 6 GB....
I use SwiftBackup for apps, call logs and texts.
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I ask because I am a bit stuck... Originally, on my Pixel 2, I would use TWRP nandroid backups. Now that I've upgraded to the P5, I no longer have that option *for the time being (God, I hope they eventually pickup support for Android 11)...
I attempted do my "Plan B" and backup via TitaniumBackup, which I'm able in making the backup successfully (everything but the "media storage" for some reason...), but when I try to copy the TitaniumBackup folder to an external hard drive, I can't get passed "Unspecified error". I've attempted to debug the issue by using different cords and USB ports with no luck. I even went as far as attempting to copy and send it using the app SuperBeam to trying an "adb pull" command -- in which it comes back at me with a "Permission denied" for whatever reason.
So I'm a bit overwhelmed at this vital and supposedly basic thing (backing things up) and am seeking help and/or other methods of backing my Pixel 5 up. Ideally, the backup will be as good as a nandroid backup. I'm a bit anxious and apprehensive because I don't like applying the monthly update without backing things up first -- flashing of any sort makes me cautious in backing things up. But I am prepped and ready and am eager to apply the new update and the new Magisk.
In any case, I thank you for reading the post and thank you in advanced for any/all suggestions...
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I'm in the same boat as you, Titanium Backup has trouble backing up media storage and I also get the same unspecified error trying to copy the backup. I'm glad I'm not the only one but I hope this gets fixed and we get TWRP soon as well.
I just use the Google backup option, works for me.
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I just use the Google backup option, works for me.
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thanks for the suggestion...
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I use SwiftBackup for apps, call logs and texts.
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I'll look into SwiftBackup...does it require root (meaning it can take ALL the data from apps)?
JimSmith94 said:
I'm in the same boat as you, Titanium Backup has trouble backing up media storage and I also get the same unspecified error trying to copy the backup. I'm glad I'm not the only one but I hope this gets fixed and we get TWRP soon as well.
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Hmmm...now you got me thinking...I'm glad I'm not the only one as well...
Still, it's unfortunate that it remains to be seen by us to be an effective viable option for backing things up...
One idea I've been tinkering with in my mind is using the adb backup method... does anyone know the full syntax command to achieve that? Is it as good as a nandroid-type backup?
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I'll look into SwiftBackup...does it require root (meaning it can take ALL the data from apps)?
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Yes it requires root and backs everything up.
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Yes it requires root and backs everything up.
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Thanks for clarifying that for me...
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I ask because I am a bit stuck... Originally, on my Pixel 2, I would use TWRP nandroid backups. Now that I've upgraded to the P5, I no longer have that option *for the time being (God, I hope they eventually pickup support for Android 11)...
I attempted do my "Plan B" and backup via TitaniumBackup, which I'm able in making the backup successfully (everything but the "media storage" for some reason...), but when I try to copy the TitaniumBackup folder to an external hard drive, I can't get passed "Unspecified error". I've attempted to debug the issue by using different cords and USB ports with no luck. I even went as far as attempting to copy and send it using the app SuperBeam to trying an "adb pull" command -- in which it comes back at me with a "Permission denied" for whatever reason.
So I'm a bit overwhelmed at this vital and supposedly basic thing (backing things up) and am seeking help and/or other methods of backing my Pixel 5 up. Ideally, the backup will be as good as a nandroid backup. I'm a bit anxious and apprehensive because I don't like applying the monthly update without backing things up first -- flashing of any sort makes me cautious in backing things up. But I am prepped and ready and am eager to apply the new update and the new Magisk.
In any case, I thank you for reading the post and thank you in advanced for any/all suggestions...
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@simplepinoi177 I use Migrate app it is green and has a sideways v on it, it requires root but it backs up everything including passwords for apps, wifi, app settings and phone settings.
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@simplepinoi177 I use Migrate app it is green and has a sideways v on it, it requires root but it backs up everything including passwords for apps, wifi, app settings and phone settings.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I'll seriously consider it.
I actually was in need of a viable backup & restore method as my phone crapped out when I tried to root it after flashing the Full Factory image. I got stuck in a bootloop and no amount of flashing the Full Factory image repaired the issue and I ended up having to wipe the device to get it up and running. Unfortunately the "adb backup" method didn't really work out and I have to set everything up from scratch...
Hopefully this Migrate app will allow me to copy its backup data to my external hard drive -- which is what I had planned for Titanium Backup -- so I can apply it even if I have to wipe my device...
I use G Cloud to backup texts/photos/videos/docs/call logs and rely on Google for everything else.