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Otterbox Commuter Series quick/dirty review

I'll do a more detailed review tonight and switch out the photos with better ones too.
First impressions: Holy crap this is huge!
It is very reminiscent of the commuter series for the HTC Hero (of course). However, this one feels a bit more "rugged".
The case has the standard plugs for the headphones and microusb ports. It also has the raised areas for the volume rocker and on/off button. The front is well protected and thick enough to not really have to worry about placing the phone face down.
It was much easier to attach than the Sedio Innocase! And conversely, it's a PAIN to remove (which is a good thing!)
It takes about the same amount of force to slide open the keyboard. It's borderline too hard for me.
Oh, the keyboard lights aren't completely covered either! Granted you still can't see them looking directly down at the phone, you can see them if you tilt the phone back a little.
My initial qualms are:
1) The case is slightly too long for the phone. The top of the case that is around the keyboard is loose. Not just a little, but it looks like it wasn't even meant for this phone.
2) Like the mini-usb plug on the Hero's commuter series, the micro-usb plug on the Shift's commuter series doesn't want to stay in.
3) Since the back side is beveled and it's semi-hard to slide out, it sometimes takes a couple tries because it keeps slipping out of my hands.
Nit-picks:
1) Backside cover is off-center (flash/camera/speaker aren't centered in their respective cutouts)
2) No silicone on the front so when it's face down it slides around easily (compared to the hero which had silicone bumpers on the front)

Where did you get it from? Still says preorder on my end
Sent from my MiuiSpeedy with that Premium XDA App

just ordered mine, hope its protective. It feels good to raw dog, but its dangerous.

Rooster85 said:
Where did you get it from? Still says preorder on my end
Sent from my MiuiSpeedy with that Premium XDA App
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Otterbox.com EVO Shift 4G Commuter Series

southernstyle said:
just ordered mine, hope its protective. It feels good to raw dog, but its dangerous.
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It's does a very good job of covering up the phone and not being loose.

Got mine today, as wizputer noted the mini-usb isn't snug enough to remain in the port. Otherwise, very impressed with the design and construction of the case.

got mine in today, very pleased. although it was a little bit of a b*^&h to put on. After getting it on I noticed the usb plug being a pain, and the power button seems to need a lil extra force to actually click, but other than that love it. I feel safe now

Good review, disappointed, love my Otterbox's for my EVO and HD2. The split covers though, Shift and Tilt (from experience), just do not seem to provide the same kind of coverage but I do not know what else they could do to make them better.

nativ73 said:
Got mine today, as wizputer noted the mini-usb isn't snug enough to remain in the port. Otherwise, very impressed with the design and construction of the case.
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I ended up cutting my usb plug off because of the headache it was causing.
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Rooster85 said:
I ended up cutting my usb plug off because of the headache it was causing.
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Actually you just have to know how to make it stay there's a little trick to it when you close it. You have to kinda pull the thing up a little bit and then slide it in and stays. That's how mine works anyways ..

kbrn said:
Actually you just have to know how to make it stay there's a little trick to it when you close it. You have to kinda pull the thing up a little bit and then slide it in and stays. That's how mine works anyways ..
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Oh well, too late. The microusb doesn't need to be covered really anyways
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I just always wiggle the flap into the port, best case by far would definately recomend. ORDER FROM OTTERBOXS WEBSITE, when it first came out I tried it from amazon (it was $10 less) but the expected shipping date was in june.
No I'm not using Tapatalk... I'm using the XDA Premium app, cause I got balls.

Be careful with the otterbox guys, dropped mine for the first time today and 3 of the 4 clips to hold the back on broke, making the case absolutely useless..... waste of 30 bucks!
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When. That happens call otterbox and they will no auestions asked replace it usually takes 1week shipping I've had 5 so fardo this and most recently they sent me 2x so I don't need to calll next timeill. Be prepared...love this company
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+1 to that . They have like you said Replaced mine about 4x's. Never once asked for anything but my address. Best company ever . Have since bought Otter Boxes for all my Devices.

I got this case mid August, and about a week ago, I dropped it. While in free fall, the top of the case just fell off my phone and broke in half. Sad thing is, I dropped it from about 2 feet. But yes, I called it in, and they are sending me in another, just have to watch out for my phone a bit more! (At least I get to replace the screen protector, put it on kinda bad, XP

LuvTab case with sleep sensor

Has anyone received one of these yet? Can you confirm whether or not it covers the usb port and headphone jack?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B008GRPPM2/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&psc=1

I would have thought a quick look at the pictures online would show you that?

Troute said:
I would have thought a quick look at the pictures online would show you that?
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Well you thought wrong. The pictures don't match the descriptions claims & the pics date from pre release so are probably for a different model.

Rock-&-Roll-Hedgehog said:
Well you thought wrong. The pictures don't match the descriptions claims & the pics date from pre release so are probably for a different model.
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If you look at the picture, you'll notice that the device they are showing it with is a Kindle Fire with a Nexus 7 screen photoshopped onto it or running an ICS/JB ROM. It looks like it would NOT cover the USB port, but would cover the audio jack.
I was thinking of trying This because it has the automatic sleep/wake sensor at a great price. Only problem I have w/ it is it looks a bit bulky.

totmur said:
If you look at the picture, you'll notice that the device they are showing it with is a Kindle Fire with a Nexus 7 screen photoshopped onto it or running an ICS/JB ROM. It looks like it would NOT cover the USB port, but would cover the audio jack.
I was thinking of trying This because it has the automatic sleep/wake sensor at a great price. Only problem I have w/ it is it looks a bit bulky.
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I found a phone number for them & the chap promised that all ports are accessible. He said it was a photoshopped image because it went up before the Nexus 7 was released. He said he had received his Nexus 7 this morning so I'm going to assume he knows what he is talking about. I placed an order anyhow so we'll see when it gets here.

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I found a phone number for them & the chap promised that all ports are accessible. He said it was a photoshopped image because it went up before the Nexus 7 was released. He said he had received his Nexus 7 this morning so I'm going to assume he knows what he is talking about. I placed an order anyhow so we'll see when it gets here.
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A word of advice. Never, ever assume anything with sales people.

i have ordred the same but without the pen, and feedback is good
http://www.amazon.co.uk/LuvTab-CARB...sr_1_1_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

Perfect Fit
Hi, I can confirm (as the seller of the product) that all ports are uncovered and the case is the perfect fit for the nexus 7.
Regards,
Parm
Laptop Kit

My case arrived this morning, but alas, my N7 didn't. Ordered 28 June.
The magnetic closure seems to work, and is not too strong.

I received my case this morning. It fits my Nexus 7 perfectly. All ports available & the smart sensor (yes I know it is a magnet) is working 100%. Not bulky like I thought it would be.
I'd totally recommend this. For the price it is top notch. :good:

Rock-&-Roll-Hedgehog said:
I received my case this morning. It fits my Nexus 7 perfectly. All ports available & the smart sensor (yes I know it is a magnet) is working 100%. Not bulky like I thought it would be.
I'd totally recommend this. For the price it is top notch. :good:
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I agree got my nexus 7 thus morning and fits perfect and sensor turns nexus on and off

bazz7777777 said:
I agree got my nexus 7 thus morning and fits perfect and sensor turns nexus on and off
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My cameras busted so I can't upload pics. Any volunteers?

Rock-&-Roll-Hedgehog said:
I received my case this morning. It fits my Nexus 7 perfectly. All ports available & the smart sensor (yes I know it is a magnet) is working 100%. Not bulky like I thought it would be.
I'd totally recommend this. For the price it is top notch. :good:
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First of all, sweet username.
Second, is the lid held shut magnetically when it is closed?
Third, has anyone ordered one of these in the U.S.? Laptop Kit has a new store on the American version of Amazon, but I got a little nervous when it said it was shipping from the UK. I was wondering what other sort of fees I might be facing.

revmra said:
First of all, sweet username.
Second, is the lid held shut magnetically when it is closed?
Third, has anyone ordered one of these in the U.S.? Laptop Kit has a new store on the American version of Amazon, but I got a little nervous when it said it was shipping from the UK. I was wondering what other sort of fees I might be facing.
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Yes it is held shut magnetically. And it is completely secure. If I wave it around upside down it doesn't show any signs of opening.
If you go through the checkout process on Amazon.com it will estimate the duty due (if any) according to this page. Under Import Fees Deposit
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=olp_intl_help?nodeId=596184&#customs
Hopefully one of the other N.A peeps will know more.
Edit found this duty calculator. Not certain but it looks to be zero payable.
http://www.dutycalculator.com/new-i...ion/saved_calculations/view_details/94367882/
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Another quick question, is it possible to fold the cover completely back behind the device for reading, etc.?

revmra said:
Another quick question, is it possible to fold the cover completely back behind the device for reading, etc.?
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Yes it is. I mostly use it like that, as my main reason for getting it was as an ereader.
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I just got this one as wel off the seller on eBay (Carbon Fibre version). Fantastic case for the price, and really happy that it has a smart sensor magnet that works perfectly.
I'm still able to fit the Nexus 7 in my jeans pocket (side and back) with the case on, so it's not too bulky.

Dirt cheap but cutouts are all in the right place, the device is a snug fit and it magnet thingy too!
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium HD app

Got it last Friday and it fits the Nexus 7 perfectly!

What does the carbon fibre white/black look like in the flesh? I'm thinking of getting one or the other.
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Inexpensive charging dock from Smartphonepedia

Just received this dock and have been using it for a couple of days.
Only $10 -- a cheap alternative so some of the 40-50$ options.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Data-Sy...531363?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f1de5aea3
It's small, feels like a decent quality piece. It's glossy black with rubber feet on the bottom so it doesn't slide around. It keeps the Note 2 supported nicely when it's dropped in. It's got a floppy rubbery insert that you can take out if you have a case.
One con is that a few times when I've yanked my phone out, the rubber piece has either partially or completely come out. My advice would be to decide on a case of not and, if you leave the rubber insert in, put a drop of hot glue or something to keep the insert in place.
See pics below. Let me know if you have questions.

Does it work with the slimmer cases?
Sent from my SPH-L900 using xda app-developers app

This is basically a glorified charger. No USB no HDMI no speak out. Does it even charge a spare battery? Whats the point?
Sent from my SPH-L900 using xda premium

What voltage and amperes does it deliver?
Beamed from Jupiter on my Galaxy Note II

I think it's cool man, it's just a simple charging dock. Great to keep at the office or your bedside.

So the only difference then my stock cable is my phone will be standing upward?...Lol...

blane73 said:
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Yes, it works with a slim case for me without even taking the rubber insert out. When you take the rubber insert out, there's a good 0.5-0.75cm around it, particularly the edges. A case with a big beefy back probably would not fit.
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What voltage and amperes does it deliver?
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It doesn't come with a cable -- you use your phone's provided cable or anything else, so whatever those deliver. I just have a usb-to-microusb running from my computer to it and it works fine.
wish777 said:
So the only difference then my stock cable is my phone will be standing upward?...Lol...
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shook187 said:
This is basically a glorified charger. No USB no HDMI no speak out. Does it even charge a spare battery? Whats the point?
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Sheesh guys. Think a little more outside your own world.
I have this dock connected to my computer at work. I walk in from a meeting, drop the phone in the charger (instead of setting it down, picking up the cable, jamming it in, etc) and it's immediately mounted as a drive on my computer and is charging anytime I'm at my desk. Need to run to a meeting? You just pick it up...no fussing with cables.
Nope, no spare battery. Surprise, most people don't need one. I spend half my day working at my desk, meaning my phone is charging half the day. In fact, I don't even feel like I ever "charge". It's just sitting in its stand. I never need to plug it in at home.
Nope, no USB or HDMI. Surprise, 99% of the people that use this phone care about that, so why pay for a $100 for a dock with it (that's the wrong color, BTW).

20 bucks? Wow, they saw you coming a mile off.
It's the same dock as this, which is in black or white.

FloatingFatMan said:
20 bucks? Wow, they saw you coming a mile off.
It's the same dock as this, which is in black or white.
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Different dock and doesn't ship to the US. But yes, I see your point, there are cheaper alternatives on ebay. Thanks for trying to make me feel like an idiot, Baron. You are very thoughtful.
Here is the same dock for a better price for those of us in "the colonies"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Data-Sy...531363?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f1de5aea3

Roark1138 said:
Yes, it works with a slim case for me without even taking the rubber insert out. When you take the rubber insert out, there's a good 0.5-0.75cm around it, particularly the edges. A case with a big beefy back probably would not fit.
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Thanks man, that's the piece of info I needed. Ordered. I've got the Samsung TPU case, will report if it fits when the dock comes in. If it doesn't fit, I'll fix it up with some polymorph plastic.

Roark1138 said:
Just received this dock and have been using it for a couple of days.
Only $10 -- a cheap alternative so some of the 40-50$ options.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Data-Sy...531363?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f1de5aea3
It's small, feels like a decent quality piece. It's glossy black with rubber feet on the bottom so it doesn't slide around. It keeps the Note 2 supported nicely when it's dropped in. It's got a floppy rubbery insert that you can take out if you have a case.
One con is that a few times when I've yanked my phone out, the rubber piece has either partially or completely come out. My advice would be to decide on a case of not and, if you leave the rubber insert in, put a drop of hot glue or something to keep the insert in place.
See pics below. Let me know if you have questions.
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Just picked one up, and thanks for sharing man :good:

While their prices aren't always the best, I do like Smartphonepedia's video reviews on youtube (the full shows, not the 30 second blips) and the guys there are very pro-android and know their devices. I would throw business at them vs a random guy on ebay any day.

May be ordering one of these. Thanks for the tip!
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Just bought 2 of the $9.99 ones. I'll try to post my thoughts when received but it will be in a long time 14 to 30 days of expected delivery.

i'm thinking of getting this for my note http://www.mobilefun.de/36639-samsung-galaxy-note-2-dual-dockingstation.htm, this dock also charge an extra battery.
sorry for the german website, you can click flag above to change into uk/us site for mobilefun.

I got the dock in the OP this past Friday, and so far so good. Very nice looking, no cheap feel to it, and the Bodyglove case fits perfect on the dock. No complaints over here folks :good:

Nice find OP. Rough crowd lol.

wish777 said:
So the only difference then my stock cable is my phone will be standing upward?...Lol...
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You can just plug the phone into the dock without having to pick up the charge cable and plug it into the phone. Same for removing it from the dock. Since we have to charge the phone everyday, I would say the dock has a value.

$3 Case that's actually good

Hey guys just wanted to let you guys know about my experience with this case. I didnt want to make my phone bulky but I wanted some protection so I got this and its perfect, best part is was only $2.80 shipped!
Check out the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3vfiRvDwUU

krayzielilsmoki said:
Hey guys just wanted to let you guys know about my experience with this case. I didnt want to make my phone bulky but I wanted some protection so I got this and its perfect, best part is was only $2.80 shipped!
Check out the video
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Love the S cases been using them on every phone since the EVO3D

Any problems with charging?
I have a similar case and you have to take it off in order to charge as the bottom bit extends the length of the phone and the micro USB connector can't form a secure connection.

liqn7 said:
Any problems with charging?
I have a similar case and you have to take it off in order to charge as the bottom bit extends the length of the phone and the micro USB connector can't form a secure connection.
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Nope no problem here. I did watch somebody do a video review of a similar case and his cut outs didn't look as precise as this one so maybe you have a similar case to his but this one gives me no problems at all.

I bought the same one on ebay for 3 bucks. Great case for the money.
Sent from the TermiNOTEr 2!

exactly what i'm using now, only £2 from UK seller on ebay. includes a screen protector and a mini stylus lol
1 thing i like to add is the grip on the side is very useful!

liqn7 said:
Any problems with charging?
I have a similar case and you have to take it off in order to charge as the bottom bit extends the length of the phone and the micro USB connector can't form a secure connection.
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You can use finger nail clippers to make the hole bigger if you need to (I've done this before with other TPU cases). This case looks nice but I need more protection on the corners in case my phone gets dropped.

I got exactly the same case, but in black.
Decent for the amount paid for it...

I picked up the version with the kickstand. Pretty sweet so far.
Sent from the White Monolith: Part Deux

Big fan of the S Line cases. I love the grips on the sides. I'm using the smoked one right now.
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Poetic Slimline for Nook HD

Just purchased and received the Poetic Slimline case for the Nook HD. Here is the link: http://www.amazon.com/Poetic-SLIMLI...804667&sr=8-2&keywords=nook+hd+7"+poetic+case
Currently the case is just $6.95 with free shipping. Current as of 2/13/2013
The case has has a plastic base that clips on over the body of the Nook HD. This helps to make the fit very snug while adding very little to the depth of the device. There are cut outs for the volume rocker, headphone jack and for the power button. The bottom of the case is left mostly open for access to the micro sdcard, proprietary port and the LED light hole. There are also two holes for the speakers on the back.
The plastic case is covered with a faux leather type material. This allows for a relatively tacky area so the device will not slip out of your hand. This material also covers the front of the device protecting the screen of the Nook HD. On the inside of the front cover is a soft velvet like material that is nice and soft preventing scratches on the screen. The front cover can also be tri-folded behind the device to act as a stand for the tablet. This occurs in landscape mode allowing for a decent angle to watch movies or other videos. It does not provide any support in the portrait mode though so it will not help with reading books.
The front cover clicks in to place with the back plastic via magnets. This helps to secure the cover so that it does not flop open. It also provides for a way to turn your Nook HD on and off when opening or closing the case. This is a great feature that will actually bypass the normal lock screen so that when you finish opening the case your device is on and ready to go. However, if you enable the password lock screen then you will still need to unlock and then type in your code.
This case comes with a 3 year warranty from Poetic which is very unusual for cases but is a great feature to have.
One con I found in this device after its arrival was that there were some threads coming out from between the two material types on the front cover of the case. This were easily clipped to make things look better but it does take away from the idea of the case being of top quality. My only other concern is how well the materials will hold up while using the front cover as a stand. If used very frequently it could lead to cracking of the front cover. However, I will only be able to tell that over time and not for the day that I have had the case so far.
So far I am very impressed with the Poetic Slimline case for the Nook HD. I recommend anyone looking for a nice slim case to pick one up.
4.5 out of 5 stars.
Some more pictures in post # 4.

blazingwolf said:
The case has has a plastic base that clips on over the body of the Nook HD. This helps to make the fit very snug while adding very little to the depth of the device. There are cut outs for the volume rocker, headphone jack and for the power button. The bottom of the case is left mostly open for access to the micro sdcard, proprietary port and the LED light hole. There are also two holes for the speakers on the back.
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Maybe some closer and illustrative photos?

datas0ft said:
Maybe some closer and illustrative photos?
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Yep. Hope to get to them today.

Pictures added. Some in the first post and the rest here.

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Pictures added. Some in the first post and the rest here.
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Looks really good. Thanks for the pics!

I liked the ceiling design and lighting

This looks great. Exactly what i have been looking for on HD+. this is avilable also for HD+ at $8.95.
Poetic likes to throw out introductory prices and then increase it once it gets popular, so i would order now it you want one, even if it is not available for another 1-2 weeks, for the prices may increase by then.

Tarthenal said:
Looks really good. Thanks for the pics!
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It does fit the device well.

datas0ft said:
I liked the ceiling design and lighting
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Better that than me in the picture.

Did i forgot mention you?!? I know why ... I just dont like any case on mob/tab and etc devices. Only acceptable are film skins which ones give a sense of the real item.

Questions: I had a Poetic portfolio case, had one dumb thing, pen holder on the back surface. Is there one on this? Also, I like to be able to stand it up in portrait mode for reading, but I think this one only stands in landscape, right?
Thanks

dbh369 said:
Questions: I had a Poetic portfolio case, had one dumb thing, pen holder on the back surface. Is there one on this? Also, I like to be able to stand it up in portrait mode for reading, but I think this one only stands in landscape, right?
Thanks
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There is nothing on the back. So no worries there.
This case is not designed for portrait use. It might stand straight up in portrait but it won't be very stable and there is no way to change the angle.
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There is nothing on the back. So no worries there.
This case is not designed for portrait use. It might stand straight up in portrait but it won't be very stable and there is no way to change the angle.
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Far and away the best commercial case I've had for a tablet flavored device. And half the cost of the nearest competitor in the
'decent case' catetory, and that one was for a 5" Samsung media player.
I get the impression that these are from a maker who also makes iPad cases and uses many of the same materials. The front has three
longitudinal strips of material - but the third is narrower than the first two. I'll compare it to a smart cover tomorrow - my memory is
that that cover has three bands of equal-breadth material on the front
The fit in the rear is good as delivered, but may start to loosen up over time, and doesn't have a cutout to match the grommet
in the corner. I may add a cutout (I have a grommet setter for fabric) and then use a shoelace or similar to fasten down the back
on that side. That could also get me a loop for a stylus, which would be useful to me. The fit across the front is a little too
long and a little too wide, which will annoy me over time or I may get used to it.
The cover activates the wake from sleep in CM10. The device sleeps itself after a minute by default, which is fine with me.
All in all, 8 out of 10.

superflysocal said:
This looks great. Exactly what i have been looking for on HD+. this is avilable also for HD+ at $8.95.
Poetic likes to throw out introductory prices and then increase it once it gets popular, so i would order now it you want one, even if it is not available for another 1-2 weeks, for the prices may increase by then.
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I knew prices would go up. It is now $19 for hd+ and $17 for HD. Those who got in at intro price got themselves a great case (myself included). It is exactly what i have been loking for.

superflysocal said:
I knew prices would go up. It is now $19 for hd+ and $17 for HD. Those who got in at intro price got themselves a great case (myself included). It is exactly what i have been loking for.
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Glad I got it when I did then.

As long as you're OK with black, those are still at 8.95.

roustabout said:
As long as you're OK with black, those are still at 8.95.
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i think i got the last 8.95 one as after i ordered, the price jumped to 12.95. maybe it's back down now, haven't checked.
anyway after about a week of use, i like the case for the price but have some minor quibbles. the case is a bit creased/folded on the edges when it shipped, so it doesn't perfectly conform to the shape of the HD+. maybe over time it will smooth out.
the stand notch is not very solid and i've had it slip when i'm moving around, not sure if that's standard for case stands. also the "hand strap" is kind of hard to pull out, but i mostly use it in landscape mode so not a big deal.
like i said not a big deal especially for the price, but not a perfect case.

snowlarbear said:
the stand notch is not very solid and i've had it slip when i'm moving around, not sure if that's standard for case stands. also the "hand strap" is kind of hard to pull out, but i mostly use it in landscape mode so not a big deal.
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I think we're talking different covers here. I thnk your cover is the "Poetic slimbook", not the "Slimline". Still good to hear you views on it!

32.4 arburnc
Thanks for the tip. Now $15 for the black HD+ one on Amazon. Still a decent price :cyclops:

Anyone has a hint how to order Poetic to a Europe country other than UK at a low price?
I can order at amazon.co.uk for 20GBP + 6GBP shipping (= 40 USD) which seems a bit high compared to 6 GBP price on UK Ebay (but from where I can't get it shipped to Slovenia).