[Q] Touch without cell service as dev phone? - Touch CDMA Android Development

I have an old HTC Touch (Sprint) from a friend that has a broken LCD and I was thinking since there are all these Android ports I could turn it into a nice device for testing my game I am developing (Bluetooth P2P multiplayer and small screen testing specifically.) However, it would not really make sense to spend money on a service plan for a device that will be used so little. So, basically, will I be able to install and run Android OK with no cell service? I have always been on GSM carriers (T-Mobile and now AT&T with the Captivate) and none with Windows Mobile Pro so I don't have any experience with how these phones react to no/invalid tower registration.
Thank you very much!
Oh, and on a small side note, an Elf screen should be the same as a Vogue screen, right? http://cgi.ebay.com/03-LCD-Screen-H...819497?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3a5c7d4fe9 <<The LCD I will probably get.
~Pathogen-David

i dont think elf and vogue have the same screen
and yes you should be able to use it as a dev device, thats what i have done with not so super froyo and fat free
only issue you might run into is our usb drivers are a little bit of a problem i can never get the phone to recognize via adb on windows7

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Dosbox on Diamond? In Canada on Rogers?

Hi.
I'm relatively new to the world of Pocket PCs. I'm here to humbly ask a question: do the various dosbox ports work on the "HTC Touch Diamond"? And, especially, is anyone here a customer of Rogers in Canada?
I ask because I tried to get a phone specifically to play the old dos games I grew up on. I initially ordered a Samsung Jack ("Blackjack ii" in the States) because it had a keyboard. I later found out it's considered a Smartphone and isn't really very compatible with Dosbox. I could hardly play what I wanted and it was only after careful key mapping that I could do anything at all. And I found out that stuff like NES emulators just wouldn't install. I needed to "app unlock" the phone and doing so, for that specific phone and in Canada, disables the voice functionality of the phone. Seriously. So I sent it back.
I'm considering either the HTC Diamond or HTC Touch (200 mhz). Which would you recommend, for the purpose I've outlined? And are there any problems (ie VGA phone not compatible with the Dosbox ports, etc)? Is app unlocking required or will Rogers put a block on unsigned applications?
Thanks for your time guys! Nice to meet you.
Tyler
don't use a diamond but dosbox works perfectly fine on my x1
not sure why you ask about cellphone company as dosbox don't
use the internet for anything at all
I suppose I was asking two different questions - one of dosbox support and the second of unsigned application support. Rogers seems to have a track record of altering the security settings and, in the case of the Samsung Jack, disabling phone-use if these security settings are lowered. I think this is to prevent people from using the GPS service without paying for it.

working bluetooth and phone on cdma

ok boys and girls i got some good news and some bad news
thanks to all the hard work done by xda on the gsm shift
i was able to to get the phone working as it should with bluetooth
what i did was took my cdma shift along with the files for the gsm shift
up to a computer guy i know in tampa he was able to use the gsm files to
get my phone send and get calls like it should
as for the bluetooth that was a bit harder first you need to understand there
are not only two os systems but two main boards one for the computer and
one for the cell phone and are linked with a date cable
the two programs that join them are communication manager
on the vista side and snap view on windows mobile side
the key is this on the wm side you have the bluetooth program but htc did not
put any bluetooth hardware on the cell phone board it self
the pc board has both but no link was set up to the wm bluetooth program
what we ended up doing was creating a short cut much like a desk top
short cut that links the wm bluetooth program with bluetooth hardware
on the vista board
this has two down sides one now i can not use bluetooth for any thing on the vista side
small price to pay but im sure it could be made to share with some work much like two
different programs are able to use the same cam or printer
the other downside vista has to be running at times to keep the link so after disabling sleep and hibernate modes
i have about a 3 hr talk time and about 5 hr standby time
i my self don't care about using bluetooth on the pc side and i got two more chargers one for the car and
one for the office so its nothing more than a tiny speed bump for me one i can live with for now
now for the bad news
i had my guy making up cab files to share i reset my phone back like new did the hard spl
and got my phone back to were it was when i first brought it to him and when i installed the cab it
screwed up my phone it took many trips to tampa and countless hr's but she's up running again
with buying the phone tech fees and gas i have well over $1200 in a phone i bought on ebay for $550
i just cant justify putting any more time or money into working cab files sorry
don't give up hope it can be done and who knows hopefully my post will put the
programmers at xda the right path to get it done for you guys as well
sunjin5231 said:
ok boys and girls i got some good news and some bad news
thanks to all the hard work done by xda on the gsm shift
i was able to to get the phone working as it should with bluetooth
what i did was took my cdma shift along with the files for the gsm shift
up to a computer guy i know in tampa he was able to use the gsm files to
get my phone send and get calls like it should
as for the bluetooth that was a bit harder first you need to understand there
are not only two os systems but two main boards one for the computer and
one for the cell phone and are linked with a date cable
the two programs that join them are communication manager
on the vista side and snap view on windows mobile side
the key is this on the wm side you have the bluetooth program but htc did not
put any bluetooth hardware on the cell phone board it self
the pc board has both but no link was set up to the wm bluetooth program
what we ended up doing was creating a short cut much like a desk top
short cut that links the wm bluetooth program with bluetooth hardware
on the vista board
this has two down sides one now i can not use bluetooth for any thing on the vista side
small price to pay but im sure it could be made to share with some work much like two
different programs are able to use the same cam or printer
the other downside vista has to be running at times to keep the link so after disabling sleep and hibernate modes
i have about a 3 hr talk time and about 5 hr standby time
i my self don't care about using bluetooth on the pc side and i got two more chargers one for the car and
one for the office so its nothing more than a tiny speed bump for me one i can live with for now
now for the bad news
i had my guy making up cab files to share i reset my phone back like new did the hard spl
and got my phone back to were it was when i first brought it to him and when i installed the cab it
screwed up my phone it took many trips to tampa and countless hr's but she's up running again
with buying the phone tech fees and gas i have well over $1200 in a phone i bought on ebay for $550
i just cant justify putting any more time or money into working cab files sorry
don't give up hope it can be done and who knows hopefully my post will put the
programmers at xda the right path to get it done for you guys as well
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Hi Sunjin. Thank you for the great post. This shows that still everything is possible. Just when I thought the Shift has since been placed in the history books you come with this glimmer of hope.
One or two issues that are not clear though, mainly about the bluetooth issue:-
1. How do you create the bluetooth shortcut exactly. Do you do so on the windows side of windows mobile side. How exatcly do you do it.
2. It is not very clear from your post whether the bluetooth on winmo side is only active with the vista side powered up. Please clarify this.
3. And finally did your tech guy look into the sd card issue. Of course as we all Shift owners know enabling sd card winmo side is the absolute necessity that we cry for every day. If he looked into the issue perhaps the matters surrounding sd card are the same as those of bluetooth that the hardware can be shared but there is no programme to link the two sides.
I know there is a way of sharing the sd card between vista and winmo but as of now the vista side has to be on to access the sd card. Of course all these efforts of unlocking winmo completely is for the purposes of getting the battery to last longer coz with vista on you must be next to a power source to do any meaningful work. same reason i believe why you have a car charger and extra power adapter in the office. I do have a car charger too but sometimes I want to go hiking with the Shift in the backpack......

[Q] Do you advise me to buy this phone ?

Hi everyone
I want to buy this phone, but before that I would like to know from you guys
if you found any disadvantages of it ??
and is it really that I cannot use bluetooth to send file and music ...atc things
because WM 7 dont support it ????
wish you all to help me..
Hi, I got my HD7 delivered this afternoon and have traditionallly used HTC hardware from the HTC Exec upwards. The thing about the so called all singing, all dancing HD7 is that it's made in the guise of an iphone which means that unlike previous HTC's and windows OS you cannot interrogate this phone at all.
You have no access to the storage space, you can't arbitrarily use certain types of apps other than the limited few on the market place. Any exchange or updating of information has to be done via Zune or Windows Live.
Example : A great little app by the name of PIM Backup. Backed up email, sms's, any callse made that day, tasks, contacts.....basically any change of information was backed up automatically that day when you scheduled. You could even port the back ups to other HTC devices. Now, unless you've got a windows live account, you can't back up or sync previous information........not even via active sync as the usb on the HTC is purely for charging the phone and not for communication.
Windows Media Player has always been piss poor on all HTC devices so a beautiful little app call TCPMP allowed you to do all the things windows player couldn't do i.e play various types of media files without the need for conversion.......now, you can't use it because there's no way to port it onto your device.
In a nutshell you've got no controll over the device or the hardward and the phone itself is frustratingly poor.
Will happily sell this phone to anyone who wants to buy it off me as can't send it back now as it's my second choice after returning an equally poor Dell Steak.
Go for the HD2..................beautiful piece of hardware and fully customisable and can be plugged directly into PC via usb which gives you access to the storage on the phone itself.
I think the best option would be to read the many reviews online and also look at videos on Youtube. There are also websites that allow you to browse the Windows Market place so you can get a feel for what apps are available.
I have had my HD7 for 2 months now (since launch) and even though there are a few bugs and like the poster above said this phone is locked down, I wouldn't part with it now. Apps are appearing all the time (remember it's 2 months old, so pretty much a baby, Android and Apple are much older and dated looking systems), MS hasn't yet released any bug fixes or improvements but they are on the way.
Unlike the poster above, I think the HD7 is much better than the HD2 with WM 6.5, I have been a Windows Mobile (WinCE) users for about 10 years, the HD2 finally was the best Windows Mobile phone ever! The problem? Windows Mobile is dead! If you buy an HD2 now you're wasting your money. Outside of xda-devs, no one is developing for it anymore. Yes you can fudge Androind onto the HD2 (which I have), but that's just like having Windows Mobile anyway. Go figure!!!
If you want something to customise to hell, go for Android, if you want a phone that is groundbreaking go for WP7, if you want a phone with a well (and now looking dated) echo system, then go for Apple.
Or why don't you find a store that will let you hold one to try?
There is also this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847822 (note: it is the sticky of this forum) to look at.
Closed because there are enough of these thread.

[Q] Connection sharing?

Hi
I've been using HTC phones for years now, always been on O2 and I've always used my various flavours of XDA to connect my laptop to the internet. I am at this very moment using my Polaris via bluetooth to connect to this forum with my laptop, that is my problem.
It it the one function that the Polaris does that I can't make my HD7 do. Am I missing something here? Surely the HD7 can do this, it is a pretty basic function of a phone so I reckon the problem here is the user.
I am currently having to swap my sim card between devices whenever I need to connect to the net with my PC.
I little help here would be very appreciated.
f1uid said:
Hi
I've been using HTC phones for years now, always been on O2 and I've always used my various flavours of XDA to connect my laptop to the internet. I am at this very moment using my Polaris via bluetooth to connect to this forum with my laptop, that is my problem.
It it the one function that the Polaris does that I can't make my HD7 do. Am I missing something here? Surely the HD7 can do this, it is a pretty basic function of a phone so I reckon the problem here is the user.
I am currently having to swap my sim card between devices whenever I need to connect to the net with my PC.
I little help here would be very appreciated.
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Actually, at this time I dont believe there is any way to tether the HD7 to a PC and if I remember correctly, I believe at this time the bluetooth on the HD7 only works for a headset and nothing else. I may be wrong so Id do a bit more searching but I believe this is what I have read and heard...
Feeling your pain.... My PSTN telephone line is down (taking my broadband with it) so having to stick my sim back in my water damaged HTC HD2 and with a stroke of luck and with the awesome windows controller 'MyMobiler' I can use that as my modem... Was a bit shocked that this was missing with WP7 going after the business (and social) sectors...

[Q] KAISER -> MIFI DEVICE .. making something very useful out of an old device

Hi,
I was thinking about buying a second MIFI device and I have a couple of old windows mobile devices (TYTN 2) stuck in the cupboard gathering dust and i thought hey some clever person must be able to bake a MIFI ROM for these devices to make them really useful.
Its a shame that thousands of these are discarded and the same people discarding them go out and buy brand new MIFI devices for their wifi ipads and laptops when they could recyle these to give them similar functionality for nothing.
We have a microsd card for a bit of LAN storage as with the MIFI .. anyone interested or is it time to bin windows mobile devices completely
I have to say though I have never seen WPA wifi tetheringon a kaiser :-(
rgds
ian
Wifi tethering on a Kaiser is completely doable and has been for some time now, running Android.
Drivers and such have been a bugger to get (or make from scratch), but I can tether my Kaiser via USB or WIFI and use my mobile network for internet.
I think WM6.0 allowed sharing the mobile data connection, I just never tried it on my own device while 6.0 was still on it.
P.S.: I will take those Kaisers off your hands for a partly donation...lol.

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