Does the ATT version of the Kaiser not have 3.5G? Or am I just not in the correct areas for such coverage?
My downloads on my 8525 were 700kbits/sec, and the 8925 is 1000kbits/sec. I'm happy, but not 3.6mpbs happy.
it's area specific. I have 3.5g in my area but it's still hit and miss. And you will never see 3.6mbps actual speed, 1mbps or 1.5 is pretty damn good for a mobile phone
smittyofdhs said:
it's area specific. I have 3.5g in my area but it's still hit and miss. And you will never see 3.6mbps actual speed, 1mbps or 1.5 is pretty damn good for a mobile phone
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Yeah i know it wouldnt peak 3.6, but it would be nice to see it get close I use my phone as my permanent internet source... every bit satisfies.
Bah... that wait for new technology coverage continues.
Thanks!
I beleive I've recently started seeing 3.5G in our area. I think it's the 'H' connection, a.k.a. HSDPA which includes rates between 383Kbps and 14.4Mbps.
Metro Philadelphia
I live in the metro Philadelphia PA area, and my phone will reach download speeds of 250-300kb/sec on a regular basis, when downloading large files.
The tilt does supprt HSDPA where available, although I believe this is still usually referred to as 3G, rther than 3.5. 1000Kb/s is about avg for it. I have hit 1.4 Mb/s in my area, I don't expect much higher than that. I am not sure about HSUPA (upload). I know they are rolling it out in some areas but I do not know if it is enabeled on the tilt.
Braymond141 said:
Does the ATT version of the Kaiser not have 3.5G? Or am I just not in the correct areas for such coverage?
My downloads on my 8525 were 700kbits/sec, and the 8925 is 1000kbits/sec. I'm happy, but not 3.6mpbs happy.
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You might want to install KaiserTweak and see if HSDPA is enabled on your phone. It wasn't on mine and I notice a big difference when that H comes on.
KaiserTweaks... Now that I think about it that's why my phone is showing the 'H.'
marm0lade said:
The tilt does supprt HSDPA where available, although I believe this is still usually referred to as 3G, rther than 3.5.
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No, HSDPA IS 3.5G. UMTS is 3G.
I recently noticed an H logo in only a few places in my house, this is there instead of 3g or Edge. Outside, I don't get the H logo. Why is this and is this the infamous 7 Megabits?
They are both the same thing, 3g/h. It could be an old logo from the theme or rom, but most only have the 3g and e logos.
evilkorn said:
They are both the same thing, 3g/h. It could be an old logo from the theme or rom, but most only have the 3g and e logos.
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on some themes(Nabzilla) he uses H instead of 3G this is one instance.on some hero roms H is used instead of 3G. I think H looks better than the 3G icon.
I know for me, I have both 3g and H depending in where I am. H is faster than regular 3g
JAguirre1231 said:
I know for me, I have both 3g and H depending in where I am. H is faster than regular 3g
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yeah same here! my ping is only 150 on H and on 3g its over 200. Proves that it's the faster 3.5gish HDSPA t-mobile rolled out
Thats **HSDPA**, not HDSPA.
Where my nexus one used to say "3g" and have the status up/down indicators it now says "H" has has up/down indicators.
Is this normal? Am I still on my 3g network? Am I going to incur any other charges from my carrier?
I appreciate it.
If I recall correctly "H" stands for HSDPA
As far as I understand it's just another name for the 3G technology some providers use
z0phi3l said:
If I recall correctly "H" stands for HSDPA
As far as I understand it's just another name for the 3G technology some providers use
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This is correct, it's pretty much 3.5G.
Wiki Article for Reference.
taitrt said:
Is this normal? Am I still on my 3g network? Am I going to incur any other charges from my carrier?
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This is normal for modded roms. You are still on your carriers network just using another/better signal. You shouldn't see any additional charges.
Thanks for all the quick replies... I thought I had checked all the FAQs/Wikis, but I guess it eluded me.
Ok so I switched my rom to the phoenix rom and I was wondering what the H means, where it usually said 3G? Is the H faster than 3G? Is that 4G? Is the speeds in this order E,G,3G,H,4G? Thanks for answering my n00b question
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Ok so I switched my rom to the phoenix rom and I was wondering what the H means, where it usually said 3G? Is the H faster than 3G? Is that 4G? Is the speeds in this order E,G,3G,H,4G? Thanks for answering my n00b question
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The h is for hsdpa which does have faster download speed. Flashing an i9000 rom allows that frequency.
This is my Captivate. There are many like it but this one is mine.
H means 3G.
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H means 3G.
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Uhhhh....what?
This is my Captivate. There are many like it but this one is mine.
The H is for HSUPA. The 3G means HSDPA. AT&T made the wonderful decision to artificially cap our upload speeds. The i9000 ROMs do not have this limitation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSUPA
tl;dr H > 3G
MikeyMike01 said:
The H is for HSUPA. The 3G means HSDPA. AT&T made the wonderful decision to artificially cap our upload speeds. The i9000 ROMs do not have this limitation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSUPA
tl;dr H > 3G
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So what you are saying is h = holy [email protected]# this is fast
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The H is for HSUPA. The 3G means HSDPA. AT&T made the wonderful decision to artificially cap our upload speeds. The i9000 ROMs do not have this limitation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSUPA
tl;dr H > 3G
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Unless everything I have read and the arguments on this very forum are wrong, we are enabling HSDPA, as the phone is already capable of HSUPA. \
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-hsdpa.htm
More info on this subject.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=837716&highlight=wifi+battery
So unless I am reading things wrong is it not this way?
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Unless everything I have read and the arguments on this very forum are wrong, we are enabling HSDPA, as the phone is already capable of HSUPA. \
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-hsdpa.htm
HSDPA is not 3G, it is 3.5G which would be the reason we see an H. THe link you posted even states HSUPA is 3G...so I would say you have your info backwards. Even on the phone with an I9000 ROM it says HSDPA for mobile network type.
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i think you have it backwards....even on stock the phone will say HSDPA because thats what 3g is....
HSUPA is what gets unlocked by using an i9000 modem....as in the UPLOAD speed. it increases, just try it.
from what i understand, the H doesnt mean SQUAT. in the rest of the world the H is their standard network, akin to what we have that ATT calls 3g (only not gimped by those iphone loving [email protected]$%*!&)....its a png file in the framework, it could be changed to F if so desired....its a meaningless icon
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i think you have it backwards....even on stock the phone will say HSDPA because thats what 3g is....
HSUPA is what gets unlocked by using an i9000 modem....as in the UPLOAD speed. it increases, just try it.
from what i understand, the H doesnt mean SQUAT. in the rest of the world the H is their standard network, akin to what we have that ATT calls 3g (only not gimped by those iphone loving [email protected]$%*!&)....its a png file in the framework, it could be changed to F if so desired....its a meaningless icon
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Hell maybe I do...I am just going back to all the arguments and stuff I have read that we are enabling HSDPA by use of the I9000 Rom. I am not always sure with this kind of stuff but my bad if what I posted and the way I interpret it are not correct. And I couldn't get my ninja edit in fast enough haha.
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The H is for HSUPA. The 3G means HSDPA. AT&T made the wonderful decision to artificially cap our upload speeds. The i9000 ROMs do not have this limitation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSUPA
tl;dr H > 3G
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Yep, downloads are gtg...it's the upload. It's one feature, for me at least, that I'm not too worried about. However, I may decide to become a Youtube freak and want to upload tons of videos...I should at least have the option to do so efficiently given the hardware in this phone is capable of it. This IS a perfect example of where AT&T should be blamed for something.
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Saying 3G and HSDPA are one in the same is semantically incorrect, but practically speaking, it's close to correct. It's more like 3G with a bit of a boost. One difference is the transport layer, HS-DSCH. So, it's 3G, further evolved.
I'm sorry, but none of you have it completely correct.
Umts is 3g. Hsdpa is 3.5g for download speeds. Hsupa is 3.5g for upload speeds.
Att does not allow any of its phones to display anything but edge and 3g indicators by the signal bars. The 3g can actually means umts, hsdpa, or hsupa (on phones that support it). The i9000 based roms display the indicator more correctly. 3g means umts only. 'H' means hsdpa or hsupa. This is how the symbols are displayed on every other network.
Edit: also, att does allow hsdpa on stock captivates. It only stops hsupa.
k2snowboards88 said:
I'm sorry, but none of you have it completely correct.
Umts is 3g. Hsdpa is 3.5g for download speeds. Hsupa is 3.5g for upload speeds.
Att does not allow any of its phones to display anything but edge and 3g indicators by the signal bars. The 3g can actually means umts, hsdpa, or hsupa (on phones that support it). The i9000 based roms display the indicator more correctly. 3g means umts only. 'H' means hsdpa or hsupa. This is how the symbols are displayed on every other network.
Edit: also, att does allow hsdpa on stock captivates. It only stops hsupa.
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Well, this is my understanding exactly. Perhaps you put it in a more articulate fashion; it's what I meant by my post, albeit with less technical details.
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So, the answer, OP, is the H means you now have faster upload capability. In practical terms, an H on a Captivate means you have HSUPA; you always had HSDPA.
Oh, and technically, they are all UMTS.
It will still display the H even if you are only in a hsdpa area without hsupa, however.
Actually hsupa allows for a faster download as well during testing. How idk. But speed test went from 4mb to 6mb when switching types.
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Actually hsupa allows for a faster download as well during testing. How idk. But speed test went from 4mb to 6mb when switching types.
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Same here mine when from like 1.5mbs on eclair to topped out like 6.5 on perception v4 and pheonix roms
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4g
Is this going to be an advantage when at&t goes to 4g ??...or is the 3.5 actually 4g?
4g
so is this going to be an advantage when at&t goes 4g???.....(having a 1900 rom that has ''H'')
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Actually hsupa allows for a faster download as well during testing. How idk. But speed test went from 4mb to 6mb when switching types.
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It improves download speeds because most IP communications are TCP or session based, meaning there is an acknowledgement sent back to verify receipt of packets. The sender has to wait for the acknowledgements before sending more data, therefore if the upload portion is significantly slower (due to higher latency or lower bandwidth) the acknowledgements take longer and the overall transmission speed is decreased.
I have seen a dramatic increase in over all performance when using apps that rely on a data connection (Android Market, Google Maps) when using HSUPA vs. HSDPA. The overall bandwidth or download speed may or may not be higher but responsiveness is much improved.
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so is this going to be an advantage when at&t goes 4g???.....(having a 1900 rom that has ''H'')
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Hello I have an infuse running [2.3.6] AEON v1.4SL on straight talk
I have H+ or EDGE but I don't get a 4G indicator in 4G areas?
Am I missing out on the 4G speeds due to the modem I am using?
Do I need to install a different modem to get the 4G speeds?
Thankyou
hootiehoo said:
Hello I have an infuse running [2.3.6] AEON v1.4SL on straight talk
I have H+ or EDGE but I don't get a 4G indicator in 4G areas?
Am I missing out on the 4G speeds due to the modem I am using?
Do I need to install a different modem to get the 4G speeds?
Thankyou
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A 4G indicator as seen on many of the newer phones usually indicates a connection to an actual 4G LTE connection which would be what is considered "real 4G." The Infuse doesn't support LTE, but supports HSPA+ a.k.a H+ which is 21 Mbps max download speeds as opposed to the 7.2 max on the Captivate. It is essentially a step between HSPA and LTE, hence HSPA+.
Is hspda 3.5 g which companies say its 4g?
So does that mean that my captivate is getting 4g if I flashed a gt. I9000 rom?
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Close but not really. You will have faster 3g where available but it is not actually 4g
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HSUPA and you
Currently only i9000 modems will enable HSUPA which is uploading at > ~300 kbps. All modems have HSDPA enabled. As posted below, while HSUPA primarily affects upload speeds, it has a secondary effect of faster downloads and lower latency as well.
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Thats from the Modem Thread
mcord11758 said:
Close but not really. You will have faster 3g where available but it is not actually 4g
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So 3g can be faster than h depending on the signal?
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H should be faster then 3g.
nope captivate is a 3g phone even u change the rom its wont become 4g.
kapitanken said:
nope captivate is a 3g phone even u change the rom its wont become 4g.
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By wireless companies only bumping up to HSPA+ and calling it "4g" the captivate is capable of "4g".