H = 4g??? - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is hspda 3.5 g which companies say its 4g?
So does that mean that my captivate is getting 4g if I flashed a gt. I9000 rom?
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Close but not really. You will have faster 3g where available but it is not actually 4g

i7777 said:
HSUPA and you
Currently only i9000 modems will enable HSUPA which is uploading at > ~300 kbps. All modems have HSDPA enabled. As posted below, while HSUPA primarily affects upload speeds, it has a secondary effect of faster downloads and lower latency as well.
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Thats from the Modem Thread

mcord11758 said:
Close but not really. You will have faster 3g where available but it is not actually 4g
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So 3g can be faster than h depending on the signal?
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H should be faster then 3g.

nope captivate is a 3g phone even u change the rom its wont become 4g.

kapitanken said:
nope captivate is a 3g phone even u change the rom its wont become 4g.
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By wireless companies only bumping up to HSPA+ and calling it "4g" the captivate is capable of "4g".

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What does the H mean on my cell (noob question)

Ok so I switched my rom to the phoenix rom and I was wondering what the H means, where it usually said 3G? Is the H faster than 3G? Is that 4G? Is the speeds in this order E,G,3G,H,4G? Thanks for answering my n00b question
fly2dm00n said:
Ok so I switched my rom to the phoenix rom and I was wondering what the H means, where it usually said 3G? Is the H faster than 3G? Is that 4G? Is the speeds in this order E,G,3G,H,4G? Thanks for answering my n00b question
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The h is for hsdpa which does have faster download speed. Flashing an i9000 rom allows that frequency.
This is my Captivate. There are many like it but this one is mine.
H means 3G.
defnow said:
H means 3G.
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Uhhhh....what?
This is my Captivate. There are many like it but this one is mine.
The H is for HSUPA. The 3G means HSDPA. AT&T made the wonderful decision to artificially cap our upload speeds. The i9000 ROMs do not have this limitation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSUPA
tl;dr H > 3G
MikeyMike01 said:
The H is for HSUPA. The 3G means HSDPA. AT&T made the wonderful decision to artificially cap our upload speeds. The i9000 ROMs do not have this limitation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSUPA
tl;dr H > 3G
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So what you are saying is h = holy [email protected]# this is fast
MikeyMike01 said:
The H is for HSUPA. The 3G means HSDPA. AT&T made the wonderful decision to artificially cap our upload speeds. The i9000 ROMs do not have this limitation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSUPA
tl;dr H > 3G
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Unless everything I have read and the arguments on this very forum are wrong, we are enabling HSDPA, as the phone is already capable of HSUPA. \
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-hsdpa.htm
More info on this subject.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=837716&highlight=wifi+battery
So unless I am reading things wrong is it not this way?
flashman2002 said:
Unless everything I have read and the arguments on this very forum are wrong, we are enabling HSDPA, as the phone is already capable of HSUPA. \
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-hsdpa.htm
HSDPA is not 3G, it is 3.5G which would be the reason we see an H. THe link you posted even states HSUPA is 3G...so I would say you have your info backwards. Even on the phone with an I9000 ROM it says HSDPA for mobile network type.
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i think you have it backwards....even on stock the phone will say HSDPA because thats what 3g is....
HSUPA is what gets unlocked by using an i9000 modem....as in the UPLOAD speed. it increases, just try it.
from what i understand, the H doesnt mean SQUAT. in the rest of the world the H is their standard network, akin to what we have that ATT calls 3g (only not gimped by those iphone loving [email protected]$%*!&)....its a png file in the framework, it could be changed to F if so desired....its a meaningless icon
Pirateghost said:
i think you have it backwards....even on stock the phone will say HSDPA because thats what 3g is....
HSUPA is what gets unlocked by using an i9000 modem....as in the UPLOAD speed. it increases, just try it.
from what i understand, the H doesnt mean SQUAT. in the rest of the world the H is their standard network, akin to what we have that ATT calls 3g (only not gimped by those iphone loving [email protected]$%*!&)....its a png file in the framework, it could be changed to F if so desired....its a meaningless icon
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Hell maybe I do...I am just going back to all the arguments and stuff I have read that we are enabling HSDPA by use of the I9000 Rom. I am not always sure with this kind of stuff but my bad if what I posted and the way I interpret it are not correct. And I couldn't get my ninja edit in fast enough haha.
MikeyMike01 said:
The H is for HSUPA. The 3G means HSDPA. AT&T made the wonderful decision to artificially cap our upload speeds. The i9000 ROMs do not have this limitation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSUPA
tl;dr H > 3G
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Yep, downloads are gtg...it's the upload. It's one feature, for me at least, that I'm not too worried about. However, I may decide to become a Youtube freak and want to upload tons of videos...I should at least have the option to do so efficiently given the hardware in this phone is capable of it. This IS a perfect example of where AT&T should be blamed for something.
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Saying 3G and HSDPA are one in the same is semantically incorrect, but practically speaking, it's close to correct. It's more like 3G with a bit of a boost. One difference is the transport layer, HS-DSCH. So, it's 3G, further evolved.
I'm sorry, but none of you have it completely correct.
Umts is 3g. Hsdpa is 3.5g for download speeds. Hsupa is 3.5g for upload speeds.
Att does not allow any of its phones to display anything but edge and 3g indicators by the signal bars. The 3g can actually means umts, hsdpa, or hsupa (on phones that support it). The i9000 based roms display the indicator more correctly. 3g means umts only. 'H' means hsdpa or hsupa. This is how the symbols are displayed on every other network.
Edit: also, att does allow hsdpa on stock captivates. It only stops hsupa.
k2snowboards88 said:
I'm sorry, but none of you have it completely correct.
Umts is 3g. Hsdpa is 3.5g for download speeds. Hsupa is 3.5g for upload speeds.
Att does not allow any of its phones to display anything but edge and 3g indicators by the signal bars. The 3g can actually means umts, hsdpa, or hsupa (on phones that support it). The i9000 based roms display the indicator more correctly. 3g means umts only. 'H' means hsdpa or hsupa. This is how the symbols are displayed on every other network.
Edit: also, att does allow hsdpa on stock captivates. It only stops hsupa.
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Well, this is my understanding exactly. Perhaps you put it in a more articulate fashion; it's what I meant by my post, albeit with less technical details.
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So, the answer, OP, is the H means you now have faster upload capability. In practical terms, an H on a Captivate means you have HSUPA; you always had HSDPA.
Oh, and technically, they are all UMTS.
It will still display the H even if you are only in a hsdpa area without hsupa, however.
Actually hsupa allows for a faster download as well during testing. How idk. But speed test went from 4mb to 6mb when switching types.
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skatcat31 said:
Actually hsupa allows for a faster download as well during testing. How idk. But speed test went from 4mb to 6mb when switching types.
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Same here mine when from like 1.5mbs on eclair to topped out like 6.5 on perception v4 and pheonix roms
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4g
Is this going to be an advantage when at&t goes to 4g ??...or is the 3.5 actually 4g?
4g
so is this going to be an advantage when at&t goes 4g???.....(having a 1900 rom that has ''H'')
skatcat31 said:
Actually hsupa allows for a faster download as well during testing. How idk. But speed test went from 4mb to 6mb when switching types.
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It improves download speeds because most IP communications are TCP or session based, meaning there is an acknowledgement sent back to verify receipt of packets. The sender has to wait for the acknowledgements before sending more data, therefore if the upload portion is significantly slower (due to higher latency or lower bandwidth) the acknowledgements take longer and the overall transmission speed is decreased.
I have seen a dramatic increase in over all performance when using apps that rely on a data connection (Android Market, Google Maps) when using HSUPA vs. HSDPA. The overall bandwidth or download speed may or may not be higher but responsiveness is much improved.
vuoflfan said:
so is this going to be an advantage when at&t goes 4g???.....(having a 1900 rom that has ''H'')
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Hello I have an infuse running [2.3.6] AEON v1.4SL on straight talk
I have H+ or EDGE but I don't get a 4G indicator in 4G areas?
Am I missing out on the 4G speeds due to the modem I am using?
Do I need to install a different modem to get the 4G speeds?
Thankyou
hootiehoo said:
Hello I have an infuse running [2.3.6] AEON v1.4SL on straight talk
I have H+ or EDGE but I don't get a 4G indicator in 4G areas?
Am I missing out on the 4G speeds due to the modem I am using?
Do I need to install a different modem to get the 4G speeds?
Thankyou
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A 4G indicator as seen on many of the newer phones usually indicates a connection to an actual 4G LTE connection which would be what is considered "real 4G." The Infuse doesn't support LTE, but supports HSPA+ a.k.a H+ which is 21 Mbps max download speeds as opposed to the 7.2 max on the Captivate. It is essentially a step between HSPA and LTE, hence HSPA+.

3g vs h thing

I have a rom that has the option to use
3g or h. I believe h stands for hspda?
Anyway I was just trying to get your opinion on which is better. And please tell me the pro/con of it. So far I only know that h is faster in data but use more battery…
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bluemoon1221 said:
I have a rom that has the option to use
3g or h. I believe h stands for hspda?
Anyway I was just trying to get your opinion on which is better. And please tell me the pro/con of it. So far I only know that h is faster in data but use more battery…
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H stands for HSUPA, or High-Speed Uplink Packet Access. There isn't a noticeable difference in battery between 3G and HSUPA. HSUPA is definitely worth it in terms of speed vs battery.
ytt3r said:
H stands for HSUPA, or High-Speed Uplink Packet Access. There isn't a noticeable difference in battery between 3G and HSUPA. HSUPA is definitely worth it in terms of speed vs battery.
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This is true if HSPA is supported in your area. However for ppl like me, 3G has a very reliable signal in my area and I can get DL speeds almost equal to those of HSPA here and using 3G consumes less battery as well. So thats why I went with 3G.
Umts is 3g. Hsdpa is 3.5g for download speeds. Hsupa is 3.5g for upload speeds.
Att does not allow any of its phones to display anything but edge and 3g indicators by the signal bars. The 3g can actually means umts, hsdpa, or hsupa (on phones that support it). The i9000 based roms display the indicator more correctly. 3g means umts only. 'H' means hsdpa or hsupa. This is how the symbols are displayed on every other network.
I was using 3g for awhile and I decided to try h and it didn't seemed to have a difference on battery. So I'm just using h now
H IS 3G!!!
MikeyMike01 said:
H IS 3G!!!
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Think you'll need to make this bigger because I'm sure will see another thread in a few hours asking the SAME thing!
MikeyMike01 said:
H IS 3G!!!
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Good stuff right there!
Ah, thats helpful I was confused and thought that H was worse than 3g. Thanks
balancing both sides
MikeyMike01 said:
H IS 3G!!!
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lol.. TRUE, but mathematically balancing the equation,
H = 3g + HSUPA
rickysa2000 said:
lol.. TRUE, but mathematically balancing the equation,
H = 3g + HSUPA
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H = 3g + (hsdpa and/or hsupa)
k2snowboards88 said:
H = 3g + (hsdpa and/or hsupa)
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uhm.. even with HSDPA enabled and HSUPA disabled, the phone shows 3g!
So, not true!
rickysa2000 said:
uhm.. even with HSDPA enabled and HSUPA disabled, the phone shows 3g!
So, not true!
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Att bars manufacturers from shipping phones that display the h icon no matter what. On the roms that actually display the h icon, it works the way I described in my last post.
k2snowboards88 said:
H = 3g + (hsdpa and/or hsupa)
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k2snowboards88 said:
Att bars manufacturers from shipping phones that display the h icon no matter what. On the roms that actually display the h icon, it works the way I described in my last post.
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this and this
i really have a hard time about the confusion of that little letter....it actually doesnt mean anything...its an icon that displays that you have DATA....leave it at that
So I should just use 3g??
H is 3g???
I don't get what y'all are talking about..
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bluemoon1221 said:
So I should just use 3g??
H is 3g???
I don't get what y'all are talking about..
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IT DOESNT MATTER
stop worrying about it and flash a rom you like

[Q] 3g/4g

Hey guys I just got my droid3 today from Bell (Canada). (Its called motorola xt860 for a reason here but o well...)
I'm just wondering why it says 3g in my notification bar. should it be 4g??
I don't understand... maybe 4g aint available yet..
Oh, and it says my mobile network type is UMTS... what is that? I thought there was only GSM and CDMA
I need to know, please
Thank you
4G is more of a marketing gimmick. Phone is actually HSPA+ (3.5G). Not sure how Motorola made it but if it is like the Atrix, it will likely show "3G" and "H" or eventually "H+". You should consider H+ as 4G.
Only LTE was initially considered "4G", but latter they decided to rate 3G+ (21Mbps and 42MBps connections) as 4G.
This phone is not LTE - it is GSM/UMTS with HSDPA up to 14.4MBps and HSUPA up to 5.76Mbps, which in no way is slow, but much slower than what LTE can deliver. Blame carriers for the confusion - they were pushing for this marketing gimmick.
Oh I see, Thank you very much sir really appreciated !
It is a great phone. Even without the "true 4G" it is a good phone. I don't see LTE being a nessecity within the next 12 months, at least for me. The current HSPA+ speeds are more than reasonable. I will be picking up one of these puppies to replace my Milestone/Droid2 Global as soon as I figure a way around Bell. Hate the fact Bell got it instead Rogers/Telus, but at least it was made available in Canada unlike Milestone 2 for example.
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leobg said:
4G is more of a marketing gimmick. Phone is actually HSPA+ (3.5G). Not sure how Motorola made it but if it is like the Atrix, it will likely show "3G" and "H" or eventually "H+". You should consider H+ as 4G.
Only LTE was initially considered "4G", but latter they decided to rate 3G+ (21Mbps and 42MBps connections) as 4G.
This phone is not LTE - it is GSM/UMTS with HSDPA up to 14.4MBps and HSUPA up to 5.76Mbps, which in no way is slow, but much slower than what LTE can deliver. Blame carriers for the confusion - they were pushing for this marketing gimmick.
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So in another word, the Bell's XT860 is EXACTLY the same as the Droid 3/XT682 minus the CDMA modem?
eXecuter.bin said:
So in another word, the Bell's XT860 is EXACTLY the same as the Droid 3/XT682 minus the CDMA modem?
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Yup - you got it right.

HSPA+

Hey guys! I am using Fasty KK4 edition and I really really want HSPA+. I know for a fact that Fasty KJ3 is HSPA+ enabled and wanted to know if I could just flash the I897UCKJ3 modem while running KK4. If not, how do I enable HSPA+? Thanks in advance!
You sure can. Go to the modem thread and flash any of the modems that are labeled US att. they are all hsdpa not hsupa but some will give you better speed than others. Just gotta teeth them.
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IpwnHLmath said:
Hey guys! I am using Fasty KK4 edition and I really really want HSPA+. I know for a fact that Fasty KJ3 is HSPA+ enabled and wanted to know if I could just flash the I897UCKJ3 modem while running KK4. If not, how do I enable HSPA+? Thanks in advance!
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I don't think just flashing the modem will do it, you'd need to install Fasty's(or any other i9000 based ROM) in order to use the HSPA+(AT&T calls 4G). Which, the only change is the increased upload speeds(HSUPA)
I could be wrong about this though, but this is the impression I'm under
kangi26 said:
I don't think just flashing the modem will do it, you'd need to install Fasty's(or any other i9000 based ROM) in order to use the HSPA+(AT&T calls 4G). Which, the only change is the increased upload speeds(HSUPA)
I could be wrong about this though, but this is the impression I'm under
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Small correction. HSPA (H in notification) Is the best speed sgs can achieve, HSDPA and HSUPA in I9000 roms. HDPA+ is something else. Faster than HSPA slower than LTE. Our phones can't achieve HSPA+
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IpwnHLmath said:
Hey guys! I am using Fasty KK4 edition and I really really want HSPA+. I know for a fact that Fasty KJ3 is HSPA+ enabled and wanted to know if I could just flash the I897UCKJ3 modem while running KK4. If not, how do I enable HSPA+? Thanks in advance!
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Yeah, some of the leaks had an H+ logo, but they never actually achieved. HSPA, which HSDPA and HSUPA is only achievable on i9000 modems. HSPA+ is unattainable by our phones, as it requires different hardware.
Awesome! Makes sense. So SGS gets HSPA (HSDPA and HSUPA) even though the ROMs have a H+ symbol. That's interesting.
kangi26 said:
I don't think just flashing the modem will do it, you'd need to install Fasty's(or any other i9000 based ROM) in order to use the HSPA+(AT&T calls 4G). Which, the only change is the increased upload speeds(HSUPA)
You are thinking of HSUPA, which as I understand it is not the same as HSPA+. It is all very convoluted and confusing so I hope someone will correct me if I get parts of it wrong, but here is my understanding:
AT&T uses both UMTS and HSPA (which consists of HSDPA for download and HSUPA for upload) for it's 3G networks. HSPA is faster, but both are considered 3G.
I believe the only AT&T phone that supports both HSDPA and HSUPA is the iPhone 4. All i897-based ROMs for the Captivate (including Fasty) support HSDPA but not HSUPA.
All i9000-based ROMs do support HSUPA and HSDPA. HSUPA, while only speeding up uploads, also decreases latency so it makes the network faster overall. The trade-off is that i9000 modems can't utilize the audience chip, so you lose hardware-noise cancelling.
AT&T uses both LTE and HSPA+ and calls them both 4G, but HSPA+ and HSUPA are not the same thing. To the best of my knowledge, you cannot get HSPA+ on any captivate ROM.
To summarize for the OP, Fasty may show an "H" in the status bar, but it's not HSPA+. It just means you are connected to an HSPA-capable tower (and even then, you are only using HSDPA). You could try an i9000-based ROM to get slightly faster speeds because they also support HSUPA, but it will still not be HSPA+. For that, you would need a 4G-capable phone.
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kangi26 said:
I don't think just flashing the modem will do it, you'd need to install Fasty's(or any other i9000 based ROM) in order to use the HSPA+(AT&T calls 4G). Which, the only change is the increased upload speeds(HSUPA)
You are thinking of HSUPA, which as I understand it is not the same as HSPA+. It is all very convoluted and confusing so I hope someone will correct me if I get parts of it wrong, but here is my understanding:
AT&T uses both UMTS and HSPA (which consists of HSDPA for download and HSUPA for upload) for it's 3G networks. HSPA is faster, but both are considered 3G.
I believe the only AT&T phone that supports both HSDPA and HSUPA is the iPhone 4. All i897-based ROMs for the Captivate (including Fasty) support HSDPA but not HSUPA.
All i9000-based ROMs do support HSUPA and HSDPA. HSUPA, while only speeding up uploads, also decreases latency so it makes the network faster overall. The trade-off is that i9000 modems can't utilize the audience chip, so you lose hardware-noise cancelling.
AT&T uses both LTE and HSPA+ and calls them both 4G, but HSPA+ and HSUPA are not the same thing. To the best of my knowledge, you cannot get HSPA+ on any captivate ROM.
To summarize for the OP, Fasty may show an "H" in the status bar, but it's not HSPA+. It just means you are connected to an HSPA-capable tower (and even then, you are only using HSDPA). You could try an i9000-based ROM to get slightly faster speeds because they also support HSUPA, but it will still not be HSPA+. For that, you would need a 4G-capable phone.
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The Captivate had HSDPA built in and ready for normal use. However, the captivate has the hardware capability for HSUPA, but apparently AT&T disabled it for marketing reasons (to promote the iPhone over it, at least that's just what I've heard). The above post is 100% correct in stating that you can use HSUPA if you have an i9000-based modem and a kernel that allows it, at the loss of hardware noise cancelling. The captivate's hardware cannot support HSPA+, much less LTE. So yes, HSUPA works, but it only improves upload speeds.
But if you want faster internet, I saw a thread on one of the captivate forums where the user told AT&T they acquired a 4G Infuse (which was a lie), and wanted to add 4G to their data plan. Then they modified the build.prop and APNs and were able to increase their network speed
Found it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150410
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But if you want faster internet, I saw a thread on one of the captivate forums where the user told AT&T they acquired a 4G Inspire (which was a lie), and wanted to add 4G to their data plan. Then they modified the build.prop and APNs and were able to increase their network speed
Found it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150410
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It is physically impossible to connect to HSPA+ on a Captivate. It doesn't support the bands, nor will the hardware allow it. He was only getting about 2.5-2.8mbps which is 3G, and what I got on stock Froyo. Technically speaking, our phones support HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps, while HSPA+ on the Infuse 4G is HSDPA 21 Mbps, HSUPA 3.6 Mbps. AT&T can also tell what phone you have based on your IMEI, which he changed on his Captivate (which is a felony). The build.prop edits may increase speeds, but adding 4G won't, he also said he connected to "H" which, once again, isn't 4G it is regular old HSPA (3G upload and download).
Just flash an i9000 rom, kernel, and modem, and you can get much faster download and upload speeds. I am able to achieve almost 6 Mbps on my Captivate.
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It is physically impossible to connect to HSPA+ on a Captivate. It doesn't support the bands, nor will the hardware allow it. He was only getting about 2.5-2.8mbps which is 3G, and what I got on stock Froyo. Technically speaking, our phones support HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps, while HSPA+ on the Infuse 4G is HSDPA 21 Mbps, HSUPA 3.6 Mbps. AT&T can also tell what phone you have based on your IMEI, which he changed on his Captivate (which is a felony). The build.prop edits may increase speeds, but adding 4G won't, he also said he connected to "H" which, once again, isn't 4G it is regular old HSPA (3G upload and download).
Just flash an i9000 rom, kernel, and modem, and you can get much faster download and upload speeds. I am able to achieve almost 6 Mbps on my Captivate.
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Your numbers on the Inspire are a little off. HSDPA=14.4 mbps, HSUPA=5.76 mbps, not your quoted numbers.
As for the Captivate, I've never saw or heard anyone getting more than 6mbps. But 5+ is pretty good. My personal best is about 4.
I have gotten 5.5 down and 4 up before, but that is the best I have ever gotten! That was along time ago and I have flashed and lost the data, but I promise I got!
LOL its not a competition.
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mrhaley30705 said:
Your numbers on the Inspire are a little off. HSDPA=14.4 mbps, HSUPA=5.76 mbps, not your quoted numbers.
As for the Captivate, I've never saw or heard anyone getting more than 6mbps. But 5+ is pretty good. My personal best is about 4.
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Those are the generic numbers. My numbers were taken from GSM Arena, Phone Arena and other spec sites.
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Those are the generic numbers. My numbers were taken from GSM Arena, Phone Arena and other spec sites.
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Then you must mixed them up. My numbers are from gsm arena.
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Then you must mixed them up. My numbers are from gsm arena.
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...The guy in the guide, that modded is IMEI, said he had an INFUSE 4G not an INSPIRE.
Here:
Googled and found a Infuse IMEI. Called AT&T. Told them I acquired a new Infuse 4G and would like to add it to my service while also havig the faster 4G speeds on my unlimited data plan. Not a problem, Gave them the IMEI. Set it up and asked them to confirm the SOC code for me, HSDPPB. Good to go.

[Q] bell HTC raider radio

Hey guys
I have a bell HTC raider that I am using on rogers.. currently running vjraider .. my data is incredibly slow cause i got like 7-8mb/s before and now after I flashed the from I can't get over 3 ..
Can someone point me in the right direction?? Thanks!!!
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Are your APN settings correct? That's probably the main thing that you should verify.
Radios are not flashable yet AFAIK, so you can pretty much rule that out as a factor.
cool thanks so much for your help!! um quick question though... does not having/not having the H+ make a difference?? I only get H or 3G with this rom...
Yes, 3G/H is 12/14mbps H+ is 21mbps and LTE is 42mbps.
I would start with the APN settings, i have th Bell version too but i'm with Bell and have no issues and always get H+ (turned LTE off)
I remember reading a while back that the symbols may be misleading. They also may've patched it.. Only thing I can think of is just doing a speedtest. Sorry if I'm no help
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Yes, 3G/H is 12/14mbps H+ is 21mbps and LTE is 42mbps.
I would start with the APN settings, i have th Bell version too but i'm with Bell and have no issues and always get H+ (turned LTE off)
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If you are using a custom ROM , than the 3G/H may have different meaning. With Stock 3G ROM on bell 3G is slowest and I probably never used it for a while. H/H+ was 14mbps max but it normally maxed out and 6/7mbps and with LTE bell claims you can go upto 42 but I normally get data rates around 12/15mbps..
I agree that radio would not be the cause, it is going to APN settings or RIL (If you are on custom rom). I tried flashing my own RIL on a RunRaider ROM could not get it to work and so would probably have to wait for some one to make a flashable package for it. (Technically it should at the most only affect battery life and not data speed)
I never seen my phone on 3G it always H/H+ and i'm using stock. I never did a speedtest and could care less it seem more then enough for my needs.

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