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[Q] ROM Manager Signature Verification Failure

A few weeks ago I flashed the Cognition V2.2 ROM and everything was fine until it started getting twitchy a few days ago. I tried to use the ROM Manager to restore the backup that was created during the flash but I keep getting the same error message and the phone does not seem to go into the Clockwork Mod Recovery but stays in the Android system recovery. The message says that the whole-file signature has failed to verify and that the installation was aborted. Does anyone have any idea how I can get my phone back to normal?

gtcochran said:
A few weeks ago I flashed the Cognition V2.2 ROM and everything was fine until it started getting twitchy a few days ago. I tried to use the ROM Manager to restore the backup that was created during the flash but I keep getting the same error message and the phone does not seem to go into the Clockwork Mod Recovery but stays in the Android system recovery. The message says that the whole-file signature has failed to verify and that the installation was aborted. Does anyone have any idea how I can get my phone back to normal?
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Common knowledge that the version of Cognition you are running is not supported by ROM Manager, it is 3e recovery and Clockwork needs 2e. You can update to the newer Cognition which has 2e recovery. I recommend you read the facts sheet befor flashing, the method you should use is Odin one click back to stock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989, then master clear so that nothing is lingering from your previous setup, backup everything from your internal storage to your pc first, this will wipe everything from your internal, replace it after you finish Master clear. you should only replace the update.zip, ClockworkMod and your music, photo's and that stuff. Backup your apps using Titanium Backup.
Here's the link for the new Cognition http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786532

So I tried what you recommended and got my phone back to the stock condition but I'm still not able to use ROM manager or flash another ROM. After I root the phone I install ROM Manager, flash it to the current edition and then try to reboot into recovery but when it gets to recovery it gives the following error message...
--Installing from package...
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
E:Can't open /cache/update.zip
(bad)
Installation aborted
Also the header of the screen states that I am in Android system recovery <2e>. If I am not mistaken, shouldn't I be in recovery <3e>? If so how do I get there? I've tried flashing the stock Kernel but that didn't work and I even installed the internal betas correctly but no cigar.

gtcochran said:
Also the header of the screen states that I am in Android system recovery <2e>. If I am not mistaken, shouldn't I be in recovery <3e>? If so how do I get there? I've tried flashing the stock Kernel but that didn't work and I even installed the internal betas correctly but no cigar.
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did you really read Rhi's post?
in order to use rom manager (clockwork mod) you must be using 2e!
my brain hurts from all the lack of searching people in this forum seem to have a problem with

Pirateghost said:
did you really read Rhi's post?
in order to use rom manager (clockwork mod) you must be using 2e!
my brain hurts from all the lack of searching people in this forum seem to have a problem with
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LOL, +1

Touche, but the error still remains. Does anyone have any positive ideas? Like I stated before, I still cannot put my phone into clockwork mod recovery.

gtcochran said:
Touche, but the error still remains. Does anyone have any positive ideas? Like I stated before, I still cannot put my phone into clockwork mod recovery.
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so put it in download mode, and use ODIN one click back to stock...then leave it the hell alone....

Like I said, I've already used Odin. Everything is back to stock except for the Kernel and a stock kernel install with Odin doesn't seem to work. Odin says that the install passed but nothing changes on the phone itself. All things considered, the phone is stock but not capable of going into Clockwork Mod recovery.

gtcochran said:
Like I said, I've already used Odin. Everything is back to stock except for the Kernel and a stock kernel install with Odin doesn't seem to work. Odin says that the install passed but nothing changes on the phone itself. All things considered, the phone is stock but not capable of going into Clockwork Mod recovery.
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When you go into stock recovery now is it version 2e or 3e?

gtcochran said:
Like I said, I've already used Odin. Everything is back to stock except for the Kernel and a stock kernel install with Odin doesn't seem to work. Odin says that the install passed but nothing changes on the phone itself. All things considered, the phone is stock but not capable of going into Clockwork Mod recovery.
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if you used the one click back to stock then you are on the stock kernel.....what makes you think you are not on the stock kernel?

The recovery is 2e
I believe that the kernel is not stock because when I look at the phone information it says that the kernel is
2.6.29
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I'm not sure that it is stock or not but my gut tells me that it isn't.

gtcochran said:
The recovery is 2e
I believe that the kernel is not stock because when I look at the phone information it says that the kernel is
2.6.29
[email protected] #2
I'm not sure that it is stock or not but my gut tells me that it isn't.
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Rom manager will work just fine with 2e recovery. Just delete any update.zip files you have in your home directory - then open rom manager and reflash clockworkmod the cappy - then you should be good to go.
As for whether or not that is the stock kernel I am not sure, but how can you tell just by looking at it if you don't know which kernel is the stock one?

I've mounted my internal and external sd cards and removed any updates but it still gives the same error. After I used the odin one-click to flash the stock rom I used the master clear as recommended. Now, if I am not mistaken, shouldn't that erase all of my user data? I reinstalled my espn app so I could follow my football team and the app still remembered my preferences and favorites. This makes me think that the master clear did not finish the job. Thoughts?

gtcochran said:
I've mounted my internal and external sd cards and removed any updates but it still gives the same error. After I used the odin one-click to flash the stock rom I used the master clear as recommended. Now, if I am not mistaken, shouldn't that erase all of my user data? I reinstalled my espn app so I could follow my football team and the app still remembered my preferences and favorites. This makes me think that the master clear did not finish the job. Thoughts?
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Master clear should've done that. If you are restoring your apps and settings using Titanium Backup then you are restoring user data which you should not do.
When you Master Clear is your device on and on the home screen, it needs to be. Don't Master Clear in Recovery mode or Download mode or it does nothing. Also you need to have debugging on.
2.6.29
[email protected] #2
That is the stock kernel. Just so you know if you are running stock with root you can simply place the update.zip from the Clockwork folder, you should have backed up before flashing and Master clear, back into your internal. ClockworkMod does fail on first attempt to flash sometimes, it happenned to me the first time I flashed it, the second time worked like a charm. Are you rooted? You need root to use ROM Manager and debugging should be on.

gtcochran said:
I've mounted my internal and external sd cards and removed any updates but it still gives the same error. After I used the odin one-click to flash the stock rom I used the master clear as recommended. Now, if I am not mistaken, shouldn't that erase all of my user data? I reinstalled my espn app so I could follow my football team and the app still remembered my preferences and favorites. This makes me think that the master clear did not finish the job. Thoughts?
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After you deleted the update.zip then opened rom manager and flashed clockworkmod it should of put a new update.zip on your phone in your home directory - can you confirm that this is the case?
Also you may not have had a successful master clear - you may want to do it again then redo odin3 one click. Also if I am remembering correctly I believe you have the option to clear cache or user data or both in stock recovery you may want to try that as well.

It all works now. The issue was with the master clear. I guess that I did try to run it in the download mode. Thanks a million guys, i really appreciate it.

Maybe I was a bit premature on that. ROM Manager works beautifully but I cannot install updates or flash a custom ROM. The Manager was able to backup the system correctly and enter clockwork mod recovery but it cannot install the update. If the update is on the internal SD it says that...
E:Can't open /sdcard/update.zip
(bad)
and if the update is on the external SD it says that there is no such file or directory. Am I doing it wrong or is there still an underlying issue?

gtcochran said:
Maybe I was a bit premature on that. ROM Manager works beautifully but I cannot install updates or flash a custom ROM. The Manager was able to backup the system correctly and enter clockwork mod recovery but it cannot install the update. If the update is on the internal SD it says that...
E:Can't open /sdcard/update.zip
(bad)
and if the update is on the external SD it says that there is no such file or directory. Am I doing it wrong or is there still an underlying issue?
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/sdcard/update.zip should only boot into clockwork recovery from stock recovery or boot to stock recovery from clockwork recovery if you flashed clockworkmod correctly from rom manager - and so long as you are not renaming any other files as update.zip after you flash clockworkmod recovery.
Which custom rom are you attempting to install?

I got it. The zip file was corrupted. Now, should I be able to boot into normal clockwork mod recovery with the Cognition 2.2 Beta 7 cuz when I try clockwork recovery it boots into normal recovery? I'm still a little hazy about all this.

gtcochran said:
I got it. The zip file was corrupted. Now, should I be able to boot into normal clockwork mod recovery with the Cognition 2.2 Beta 7 cuz when I try clockwork recovery it boots into normal recovery? I'm still a little hazy about all this.
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When you first boot into recovery it should be stock recovery. While in stock recovery when you select reinstall packages it will reboot into clockwork recovery - if you flashed clockworkmod recovery correctly from rom manager and it put the appropriate update.zip into your home directory.
And just to note: don't be renaming any files as update.zip if you are using clockwork recovery to flash something.

[Q] ROM Manager: Recommended or not?

Hey guys,
Last night I installed ROM Manager and ClockworkMod Recovery on my Roger's Samsung Captivate and proceeded to watch some YouTube videos on how it works. It would appear that this app has made flashing extremely easy. Too easy one might say.
My question is: Is flashing via ROM Manager safe? Better? Or not, compared to the "old school" method?
Any feedback on ROM Manager or flashing in general for my i896 Captivate would be much appreciated!

TheShamsMan said:
Hey guys,
Last night I installed ROM Manager and ClockworkMod Recovery on my Roger's Samsung Captivate and proceeded to watch some YouTube videos on how it works. It would appear that this app has made flashing extremely easy. Too easy one might say.
My question is: Is flashing via ROM Manager safe? Better? Or not, compared to the "old school" method?
Any feedback on ROM Manager or flashing in general for my i896 Captivate would be much appreciated!
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I'd say Rom Manager is downright essential, but your mileage may vary. Besides the uber easy flashes there are a number of utility type things it does, not least of which is it gives us cappy users the ability to make nandroid backups.
As far as safe? As safe as any other method I guess. If you do your homework and the Rom's cook has his/her shizzle together (and most of them do.) you should be good using it to flash.
You'll find with some of the newer kernels that a modified CWM is actually replacing the stock 2e/3e recovery also, so it's not a terrible idea to get familiar with it a bit first.
Just some thoughts, hope they help.

Thanks for the reply dude!
Does ROM Manager automatically present users with the option to backup their existing ROM before proceeding with a flash?
I attempted to back up my current ROM with ROM Manager. It rebooted into a recovery menu, but non of them gave me the option to back up. Just wipe and reboot (can't remember the exact options). Is it possible the Captivate is no supported? How would I enable nandroid for Captivate?

TheShamsMan said:
Thanks for the reply dude!
Does ROM Manager automatically present users with the option to backup their existing ROM before proceeding with a flash?
I attempted to back up my current ROM with ROM Manager. It rebooted into a recovery menu, but non of them gave me the option to back up. Just wipe and reboot (can't remember the exact options). Is it possible the Captivate is no supported? How would I enable nandroid for Captivate?
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You open the app and tap flash clockwork recovery, select your phone, and it will proceed to reboot into recovery mode. At this time, you move down to reinstall packages, and it will then load clockwork recovery. It is from there that you can make your nandroid backup.

miztaken1312 said:
You open the app and tap flash clockwork recovery, select your phone, and it will proceed to reboot into recovery mode. At this time, you move down to reinstall packages, and it will then load clockwork recovery. It is from there that you can make your nandroid backup.
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What he said. It sometimes chokes on loading itself. It puts a file named update.zip on your sdcard. When you get to the blue menu (2e recovery) you select reinstall packages and it should load right up. Sometimes it will reboot and get stuck there again. Just do it again and it'll come up.
Yes, before you flash through rom manager it asks you if you want to do a backup. You'll find over time tho that you'll just go straight to clockworkmod and skip the whole rom manager thing. At least I did. And if you go to one of the kernels with the modified cwm in place of the recovery menu rebooting to recovery with rom manager will bring you to the wrong one. The modified has extra stuff like lag fixes and that sort of thing that the original cwm doesn't have.

Yeah. So far, I find it easier to just use ROM Manager to boot into Recovery and do everything else from there.
I like how it only presents you with ROMs available for your specific device. I look forward to the list populating for the Captivate. It's currently empty.

You open the app and tap flash clockwork recovery, select your phone, and it will proceed to reboot into recovery mode. At this time, you move down to reinstall packages, and it will then load clockwork recovery. It is from there that you can make your nandroid backup.
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the very first time i did this clicked reboot instead of reinstall packages. (i have fat thumbs) now every time i do 'tap flash clockwork recovery' instead of rebooting it just says 'successfully downloaded clockworkmod recovery'. how am i supposed to reinstall if i cant get to the option to do so?
im using a rooted captivate.

"Reinstall Packages" is in Android Recovery. When you perform the action "Flash Clockwork Recovery", you are downloading update.zip (which is Clockwork). "Reinstall packages" will install that update.zip and bring you into Clockwork.
So for you nawlage, now you can select "Reboot into Recovery" in ROM Manager, and your phone should boot into Android Recovery (blue text). Once there, reinstall packages (you'll probably have to do this twice), and you'll be brought to Clockwork Recovery (green text). If for WHATEVER reason "Reboot into Recovery" isn't working for you, use the 3-button combo to boot into Android Recovery.

thanks a load. i had just read this... posted by big99gt:
After these steps you won't really have to "hack" your phone lol. Root your phone and download Rom Manager from the Android market...then have it flash a recovery (the first selection at the top) choose your device when prompted. Now after that finishes select "reboot into recovery" and as the above post states you may need to select "reinstall packages" (I did). Once that goes through, you'll see your new custom recovery menu. DO A NANDROID BACKUP of your current Rom as soon as you can....then (as long as your current rom isn't messed up, if its stock your fine) from there on out you can play as much as you want with very little risk of bricking your phone. There are others who can explain it better but your stuck with me till they chime in lol. Its a very easy process and nearly foolproof.
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..and did just that. and it takes me to the clockwork recovery (green text). because of this i dont have to reinstall packages?
also, is the backup option in clockwork recovery (green text) equivalent to nandroid backup?

Once you are in Clockwork Recovery (green text), there is no more need to reinstall packages.
The "Backup Current ROM" in ROM Manager makes a nandroid backup.

very nice. two thanks for you. thank you.

Cannot get into cwm recovery

Please delete this post

Smallsmx3 said:
flashed back to jf6 via one click twice now. master cleared..... everytime i try to boot into recovery i get into 2e. dont flame me just help. anyone else have this issue before?
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Did you put the update.zip on your internal SD card? If not I have attached it to this post. Please be careful in the future where you post though. There are a few bad apples that will rip you apart.

More info is needed to help you out. What setup where you running before?? Do you have the correct update.zip for CWM on the root of your sd and are you reinstalling packages x2 in 2e recovery and its not working or what?? Pretty vague in the OP.
EDIT: If you master cleared it wiped your sd and you need to put the update.zip that adamholden posted back on your sd.

whats the update.zip file? root access? I have root. everyone knows if you post in general you dont get replies.....

The update.zip that he posted is not root. Its for CWM and you should always keep it on your internal sd to always have CWM available. Just move the zip to your SD and select reinstall packages two times for the green txt CWM recovery.

was on eugenes gingerbread themed rom... going from r2 to r3....failed at line 2 so I one clicked....master cleared and everytime i try to get into CWM recovery 2e boots up instead.....i have root

silverslotcar said:
The update.zip that he posted is not root. Its for CWM and you should always keep it on your internal sd to always have CWM available. Just move the zip to your SD and select reinstall packages two times for the green txt CWM recovery.
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i didnt know this existed....thanks...ill try it out

Smallsmx3 said:
whats the update.zip file? root access? I have root. everyone knows if you post in general you dont get replies.....
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CWM is an update.zip file on your sdcard (assuming your not using a kernel with it baked in). What happens when you hit reinstall packages, is that it takes the CWM update.zip and flashes it, replacing 2e with CWM. If you don't have that update.zip on your sdcard, then you won't be able to get to CWM.

Yea, have you ever been in rom manager and had to "Flash Clockwork Recovery." Well thats what it is doing. Its putting CWM recovery as an update.zip on your sd. You should be good to go once you do that.

I had the same thing happen to me. I will list what I did step by step as best as I can remember not because all of it is necessarily relevant, just for a frame of reference:
i. Odin 1 clicked to stock
ii. one click root
iii. installed CWM from market
1. Opened CWM, selected install rom from SD card, did not check backup rom or wipe data.
2. Phone rebooted into stock recovery screen, selected reinstall packages, rebooted phone.
3. Repeated step 1 and 2 about 10 times with nothing happening. (Normally, the second time I go through this process, it installs the rom)
4. I tried selecting "Reboot into Recovery" (the manual option) but still nothing happened, it was taking me to the 2e stock recovery.
5. I went back into CWM and selected "All CWM Recoveries" and flashed the older version 2.5.1.1
5. Selected "Reboot into Recovery" again and the CWM recovery window came up and I was able to manually select my ROM from there.

Thanks for Clockwork Mod save
Thank you!!!! Like the previous poster I couldn't get into Clockwork to flash a new ROM altho' I went into recovery at least a dozen times - your fix worked! I downloaded an earlier Clockwork and that instantly took me to the correct screen. A million thanks, I thought I would be stuck in 2.1 for the life of the phone since it wouldn't flash.

dslsurfer said:
Thank you!!!! Like the previous poster I couldn't get into Clockwork to flash a new ROM altho' I went into recovery at least a dozen times - your fix worked! I downloaded an earlier Clockwork and that instantly took me to the correct screen. A million thanks, I thought I would be stuck in 2.1 for the life of the phone since it wouldn't flash.
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Glad that you found a fix haha

[Q] Help Anyone

I am trying to change my ROM to use Serendipity 6.2. I have downloaded all that was required and followed through all the instructions. This is what my phone has. OS 2.2 I897UCJI6 build. I have tried several different ways to connect I have even reset my phone back to Original. Can someone please help me update the ROM in easy and beginners terms. I have ROM Manger. And have backups that I used Titanium Backup. I need more sound and have heard this ROM is very effective at this. I tried Voodoo but it would not let me install the kernel for it to work. Any help would be great, the simpler the better

Open rom manger. Select flash clockwork recovery at the top. Reboot to recovery, select reinstall packages, phone will reboot back to recovery, select reinstall packages again. Now you should be in clockwork recovery. Select install zip from sd card. Find and select the rom you want to flash on your sd card. Confirm on the next screen. Watch the magic.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using Tapatalk

You probably have the 3e Recovery and ROM Manager will not work.
Follow the steps in this thread to fix that issue first: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909213

[Q] How to download clockworkmod and install while offline?

Hello.
ROM manager is unable to download clokworkmod recovery. Maybe because I'm in a "sanctioned country" CUBA and I have a lot of internet restrictions from both Google and my ISP.
My question is: Can I manually download clokworkmod recovery and copy it on the SD card and have ROM manager install it?
If the answer is yes: How? and where do I find Clockworkmod for the captivate?
i897 stock 2.1.1 rooted and unlocked.
Thanks.

ian77ex said:
Hello.
ROM manager is unable to download clokworkmod recovery. Maybe because I'm in a "sanctioned country" CUBA and I have a lot of internet restrictions from both Google and my ISP.
My question is: Can I manually download clokworkmod recovery and copy it on the SD card and have ROM manager install it?
If the answer is yes: How? and where do I find Clockworkmod for the captivate?
i897 stock 2.1.1 rooted and unlocked.
Thanks.
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all rom manager does is put this zip file on your sdcard. its not needed.
just drop this on the root of your sdcard, reboot to recovery and reinstall packages twice. CWM will come up then

Pirateghost said:
all rom manager does is put this zip file on your sdcard. its not needed.
just drop this on the root of your sdcard, reboot to recovery and reinstall packages twice. CWM will come up then
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the one caveat to this ... make sure you have the 2e boot loader when you boot into recovery. The 2e bootloader is the stock bootloader that comes with froyo. 3e will require you to have the update packages signed, and therefore will need to downgrade to 2e before you can switch to CWM.

pironic said:
the one caveat to this ... make sure you have the 2e boot loader when you boot into recovery. The 2e bootloader is the stock bootloader that comes with froyo. 3e will require you to have the update packages signed, and therefore will need to downgrade to 2e before you can switch to CWM.
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Wrong.
2e RECOVERY comes from firmware 2.1, which the OP stated he was on. Froyo comes with 3e recovery. Has nothing to do with bootloader, because the bootloaders are the same between eclair and Froyo.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777

GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
Working, one more question. I noticed three things:
1 - If I reboot to recovery again it goes into stock recovery (2e). Then I hit reinstall packages only once and ClockWorkMod comes up.
2 - If I delete the update.zip from the sd card CWM will not work.
3 - ROM Manager still says that CWM is not installed therefore is not working OK.
Is all this ok? Should I select: "Install sdcard:update.zip" while in CWM? Should I do something else?

ian77ex said:
GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
Working, one more question. I noticed three things:
1 - If I reboot to recovery again it goes into stock recovery (2e). Then I hit reinstall packages only once and ClockWorkMod comes up.
2 - If I delete the update.zip from the sd card CWM will not work.
3 - ROM Manager still says that CWM is not installed therefore is not working OK.
Is all this ok? Should I select: "Install sdcard:update.zip" while in CWM? Should I do something else?
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That sounds pretty normal to me. If you are getting into CWM then thats all that really matters. The deal with ROM manager is that it doesnt work very well with our phones. But if you are trying to flash a custom ROM you can still do it without ROM Manager. However, you need to read up about the rom you want to flash because it is a slightly risky process. Its as risky as using ROM Manager and almost Russian roulette if you dont read.
But do not delete the update.zip after you install it. I dont know if it messes with the boot process of recovery mod but I do know its better to have that backup file on your SD card already if you run into a problem later on.

Don't bother with ROM manager. Its close to useless with SGS phones. Make sure your 3 botton combo works and you should be golden. Also making a jig isn't a bad idea also, just incase you do screw up and you get in a softbrick where your keycombos decide to not work.