Hello all,
i have reading the guides almost all through, but i m confused or dint have full answers on the following:
My current fw is DDjp6
1- Recovery 2e: what is the best possible way to get it?
2- Clockwork mod or any other mod like lagfix ...if i apply them on my current fw, is it possible to flash to a newer fw with odin straight with the root?
please give possible explanations on unrooting methods, thats the part where im more confused.
Google unrooting and you should come up with a way to do it although I cannot see a reason to unroot unless going for warranty. One way I know of how to unroot is by reflashing you current FW or upgrading your FW. Both will case your phone to be unrooted. As for lagfix and clockwork mod, do NOT have lagfix enabled and try to install clockwork mod. Will mess up your phone. Anything else you need to know is in this forum.
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I have searched and the question has been asked many times, but never answered.
eg. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710588
It seems there aren't too many Docomo SC-02B users here...So there isn't much info on how to get proper root...I have root in the current rom via z4root, but that doesn't get kernel root or get me the needed 2e recovery... I have the 3button from the factory...
So I want to start playing with things to see if i can get something working... reading says that there are several ways that might work... or might bjork the phone... but again reading says if i can get back to download mode... odin should be able to save me... IF I HAVE A BACK UP...
So... how do I make those back ups?...
AFAIK and from what I've read, there's no way of making a working flashable backup. All references I've read regarding Clockwork backups in relation to actually restoring your phone say that you need to flash your model's firmware first and then restore from the Clockwork backup. I have that same problem. No original FW leaked for my phone/carrier so I haven't risked flashing in anything except root access and OCLF.
Did you look in samfirmwareworld.com for your fw?
Yeah but nothing.
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Dear all
Please bear over with this newbie question, but now I've spend around 10 hours searching/reading in this forum and on the internet so now I feel I've made a decent effort of trying to find the answer I'm looking for, before asking stupid questions.
I want to root my Samsung Galaxy S I9000 phone, in order to (primary reason) modify the hosts-file and avoid ads! The phone is 1 week old. I'm concerned about guarantee, but people has written that I should not be concerned because I can always revert back. I've used appbrain to export a list of applications and I'll unmount the SD-drive before attempting. I've found out that I'm running (typing *#1234#):
PDA: I9000XXJPY (= "baseband version" under settings)
PHONE: I9000XXJPY
CSC: I9000OXAJPY
Build Info: 2010.12
And from settings I know my:
Firmware version: 2.2.1
Kernel version: 2.6.32.9 (it also says: "[email protected] #1")
Build number: FROYO.XXJPY
MY IDEA:
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To begin installing Android SDK (on either windows or linux) + Odin3 (think version 1.7 is latest, it's only on windows, right?). Then I think I should install Clockwork Mod Recovery (CWM) + nandroid...
====> Question 1:
I think first step is Odin3 which will root the SGS I9000 phone... Correct? I guess it's as easy as here:
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/how-to-root-xwjvb-and-install-clockwork-mod-cwm-recovery/
Correct ?
====> Question 2:
Should I use z4root or superOneClick from http://shortfuse.org/ ? I think I've read that z4root is the best, however abedi here has the exact same software as me and he says/writes it hangs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13025681&postcount=2878
??? Which to use?
====> Question 3:
I read this:
6.I want to install new firmware but I want to have a backup of my original firmware to go back to in case I need to go back for warranty reasons. Can I backup my original firmware somehow?
As of now, there is no way of backing up firmware entirely. However, there are firmwares out for every region and virtually all regions have received a 2.2 or 2.2.1 upgrade which can be applied through Kies or Odin.
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(from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596 )
So how do I restore everything if I need my warranty and if I need to return the phone?
====> Question 4:
If I have to root the phone before backup up, then how can I restore everything back to the state before I rooted it? I don't understand that. And is it nandroid or CWM I should use?
I still don't get it... In my opinion, making a complete backup of everything should be done before rooting - however it's a contradiction I think that you need to be root, in order to backup because then it's a rooted backup and not an unrooted backup???
====> Question 5:
When I've done the above, is it then a good idea to try this?
http://romkitchen.org/sgs/?s=generator
I've also read that this "Darky's ROM" should be good... I found something here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814091
Is it correct, that this is good (the best that is currently available?)?
Finally: Thanks for your time - I appreciate your answers and any hints/suggestions. I've taken myself time to read a lot, however there's too much information out there and I need to clarify the above before taking the next step. Another problem is that google and the forum probably have some outdated information here or there and that discourages me a bit. Please help/advice!
Thanks in advance!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939752
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596
I've also read that this "Darky's ROM" should be good... I found something here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814091
Is it correct, that this is good (the best that is currently available?)?
Most help / broke my phone posts on this forum are Darky rom . You choice .
Rom Kitchen stable roms and help on dev thread .
FAQS here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817703
I think first step is Odin3 which will root the SGS I9000 phone... Correct? I guess it's as easy as here:
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/how-to...-cwm-recovery/
BIG NO thats Beta Gingerbread .
personally i would wait for official Release of Gingerbread 2.3 . Download your official update via kies and back that up then go to rom kitchen and build a custom rom
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jje
JJEgan said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939752
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596
I've also read that this "Darky's ROM" should be good... I found something here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814091
Is it correct, that this is good (the best that is currently available?)?
Most help / broke my phone posts on this forum are Darky rom . You choice .
Rom Kitchen stable roms and help on dev thread .
FAQS here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817703
I think first step is Odin3 which will root the SGS I9000 phone... Correct? I guess it's as easy as here:
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/how-to...-cwm-recovery/
BIG NO thats Beta Gingerbread .
personally i would wait for official Release of Gingerbread 2.3 . Download your official update via kies and back that up then go to rom kitchen and build a custom rom
.
jje
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Ok, thanks a lot for your advice/comments.
I've already looked a bit into some of the links. And as I see it, there are still some questions that remains unanswered, but there are also some very good answers (and thanks for that, i.e. use ODIN for updating the rom).
An example where I'm still confused (hope I've not overseen something):
====> Question 2:
Should I use z4root or superOneClick from http://shortfuse.org/ ? I think I've read that z4root is the best, however abedi here has the exact same software as me and he says/writes it hangs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...postcount=2878
??? Which to use?
And my question 3 is directly related to one of the links you posted and I'm asking for an explanation of the contradiction in the fact that some people say I can make a 100% backup/restore and the link below says it's impossible:
====> Question 3:
I read this:
6.I want to install new firmware but I want to have a backup of my original firmware to go back to in case I need to go back for warranty reasons. Can I backup my original firmware somehow?
As of now, there is no way of backing up firmware entirely. However, there are firmwares out for every region and virtually all regions have received a 2.2 or 2.2.1 upgrade which can be applied through Kies or Odin.
(from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596 )
So how do I restore everything if I need my warranty and if I need to return the phone?
In Q4 I ask whether to use nandroid or CWM (not quite sure about both):
====> Question 4:
If I have to root the phone before backup up, then how can I restore everything back to the state before I rooted it? I don't understand that. And is it nandroid or CWM I should use?
I still don't get it... In my opinion, making a complete backup of everything should be done before rooting - however it's a contradiction I think that you need to be root, in order to backup because then it's a rooted backup and not an unrooted backup???
bit difficult for me to answer as i have just double bricked my phone .
Double brick = even Odin dont want to recover the phone .
jje
Ok, thanks jje.
I still hope somebody can/will answer Q2+Q3+Q4 in their own words, before proceeding (maybe with something stupid that'll void warranty and maybe something worser)...
As for rooting, I have never had a problem with Super One Click...I used it on both my phone and a coworkers.
Just remember if it hangs, change your USB debugging setting (either turn it on or off, depending).
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You can't really do a full backup until you root. That first step just has to be a leap of fate. Once you are rooted, use the instructions for hardcore's speedmod kernel to flash a cwm enabled kernel via odin. Then, go into recovery mode and use the clockwork settings to make a nandroid backup.
As for the contradiction, some things will not change when you flash a nandroid backup, such as file system settings and modem. Therefore to return the phone to a warrenty state you need to download the original firmware and flash it via odin. However, for normal use, nandroid backups do just fine.
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rschenck thanks for both replies! My final question/comments comes here!
1) Super One Click didn't hang at all. Installed perfectly without problems (usb enabling was on the whole time). To answer my own question 2: I decided not to try z4root because I read that it is not maintained anymore - just for the record. Maybe some other newbie can use this info.
2) This is a perfect answer to the other things I was wondering about. However, please clarify if you by this "…use the instructions for hardcore's speedmod kernel to flash a cwm enabled kernel via odin…" mean that I should look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822756 ???
THANKS!!! This wasn't that hard after all... Hopefully nothing will ever break and hopefully I'll never need/get warranty issues...
Firstly gaining root access to access the hosts file is SIMPLE
Superoneclick v1.6.5 roots every sgs I have ever come across (personally I have rooted 4 different ones now) and I have used it to root a xperia x8 as well
I would then recommend downloading the busybox installer from the market and letting that install the latest stable busybox.
then ADFREE also from the market will modify the hosts file and automate the process of keeping that up to date.
on the choice of z4 my only experience was of that not working at all for me so that's all I can add to that.
personally beyond that I use odin to flash the voodoo lagfix and sound mod kernel with CWM and I love that. It's brilliant but I recently did someone elses SGS and it didnt want to play so I used the speedmod kernel with CWM instead. The quadrant scores aren't as high but it seems stable enough and quadrant isnt everything.
CWM will effectively let you back up the whole rom but in order to make effective backup's a simple rooted phone is enough CWM is not a requirement. With something like titanium back up from the market you can make all the back ups you want on a stock phone as long as it is rooted. Personally I do a CWM backup every couple or three weeks, but I do 2 different nightly backups with a weekly full backup scheduled on titanium and I use the titanium media sync to push the backups to my dropbox. This way I always have "belt and braces".
Might seem like overkill but I have around 350-400 apps installed at any given point. 5 lots of push e-mail etc etc etc.
(that should cover question 2&3 I think)
question4
Superoneclick will allow you to remove the the hack and the superuser and busybox programs.
you seem a little confused, there is a difference between hacking the phone for superuser (root) access (which is all you really need and can be done above with one click and no odin etc) and hacking the phone to modify the boot loader which is what clockworkmod is. This changes the recovery area of the phone.
typically when you do this you use odin to flash a new kernel which will include the clockworkrom recovery bootloader.
this is more risky (but still almost always recoverable from in my experience) typically the new kernels include a root solution so flashing a kernel does not require the phone to be rooted already. Usually flashing a new kernel will add extra benefits or features such as the option to change the filesystem that the phone uses to a faster one than the default used by android (this is usually called lagfixing).
technically I would guess that any of these things COULD invalidate warranty but in reality I doubt they would and you should be able to reverse almost any of them prior to returning a device under warranty. personally so far I have screwed up my phone and others a number of times and I haven't once found something that darkyy's ressurection rom hasnt been able to rescue me from. Worst case I flash that then reflash with a stock rom. (I've been able to do this when I have forgotten to unlagfix a phone when I have checked efs or repartition by mistake all sorts, I have had phones in the condition where the wouldnt accept any sim card and darky's has got me out of all these states simply repartition with the resurrection rom and bob's yer uncle)
Hope that answers your questions and helps you understand the differences.
My stupid N1 updated to 2.3.4 via ota. and i lost root
If i follow the wiki, which says downgrade to 2.3.3 and then use super1 click for 2.3.3
Will i be ok?
Can some1 paste the link which has the 2.3.3 file that i can flash as passimg.zip?
I donot wanna flash something wrong and brick my phone (i live in Ind where htc service is minimal)
i have an htc slcd with 0c15 microp
how do i flash Amon_ra recovery? i have had success in flashing the clockworkmod frm Rom manager, Any merits in flashing amon_ra?
thanks guys
Ok well if you look in the wiki at the unroot/restore section then you'll find the passimg file for frg83 use that (there is none for 2.3.3) then just root with superoneclick rageagainstthecage method. The other option you have is to unlock the bootloader then fastboot flash a recovery. Now for flashing Amon RA you can do that from ROM manager as well just flash clockwork mod then reboot and you'll see that the flash alternate recovery is no longer grayed out it says Amon RA 2.2.1 just tap that and you've got Amon. Me personally I prefer Amon RA.
rooting 2.3.4
Hey bro, thanks for the advice
I actually found a GrI40 2.3.3 gingerbread stock on the xda forums, If i copy this 2 the SD card and apply as passimg.zip,will it work?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=968396,
the 1st build actually says its a stock rom which i am happy to use
Also, is there an app on the market before i apply root>?
i hve about 22 apps and would ideally wanna back them up, before downgrading and flashing
can u advise?
thanks again,,,,
Ok well for the file no you can't use that you need a shipment ROM which come from leaks, the file you found will only work if you flash it from recovery if your rooted or from fastboot if your bootloader is unlocked. As far as backups go the best option without root access is mybackup pro.
And "your stupid N1" did not update itself. The phone is not stupid...
must have happened by mistake
there is no frigging way i updated 2 gingrbrd when i was happily rooted
so itsw stupid
Yes YOU did.
If it makes you feel better to blame the phone for your stupidity then so be it.
Why can't you unlock the bootloader? Why are so, many people afraid to unlock the, damn bootloader? I don't get it.... Just unlock it, flash recovery, flash su, reboot... Profit???? Done. Simple.
bootloader unlock
Babydoll
thx 4 ur advice sir !
Thats one option i have thot off , 2 unlock loader n then flash recovery
But i live in ind ,where N1 cant be serviced and unlocking bootloader
also screws it warranty
Can i dwngrade to 2.3.3 using the GRI40 2.3.3 rom which is avail on on our forums. and then root with super1click?
Once again thx 4 ur advice
Albundy 2010 -if u think ur the only intelligent guy and feel ur superior, i have not seen that kinda stupidity ,thx
I don't think that at all. Just letting you know that it's your fault the phone updated. Don't blame the "stupid" phone for your actions. Just another case of a smart phone - stupid user.
ok thanx 4 the feedback
now that u given ur stupid lecture about "stupidity", can u actually lemme no if its possible 2 downgrade with Stock GrI40 avail on our forums,
Few say its possible and few say it cant
I d like 2 dwngrade 2 use super1click on 2.3.3 which i believe is possible
Yes it is possible. You need to use the passing.zip method to go back to a froyo. You can than root/install a custom recovery from there and flash a rom.
You can also install the OTA's up until 2.3.3 Root that/install custom recovery. Then flash the update to 2.3.4 from custom recovery and without rebooting flash su to keep root.
albundy2010 said:
Yes it is possible. You need to use the passing.zip method to go back to a froyo. You can than root/install a custom recovery from there and flash a rom.
You can also install the OTA's up until 2.3.3 Root that/install custom recovery. Then flash the update to 2.3.4 from custom recovery and without rebooting flash su to keep root.
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o super!!!!!, i alrdy have the FRG33 renamed as passimg.zip on sd
But is it possible 2 go directly to GRI40 2.3.3?????[/B], which is stock gingerbrd
thats 1 doubt i hve been Having 4 a long time!!!!
whch is nippier than Froyo
I just dont want to apply 2.3.3 and then brick my device without expert advice
thx again 4 the assist
Yes!
Root FRG33, then manually apply the updates from recovery and flash the su zip over them. Do not reboot the phone, or you will lose the recovery and will have to start again...
OMG, this thread is still going?
Do yourself a big favor:
Go read Wiki, rooting guide, unlock bootloader method.
Execute fastboot oem unlock.
Then flash whatever recovery you like.
Then flash whatever ROM you like. Stock, not stock, 2.3.4, 120312.12974.0935789, whatever.
And if you're not ready for it - then go use your phone as it is, and don't think about rooting until you are. The most important part being - ready to learn to RTFM (google that, if you don't know what it is).
It's the 4th thread you open for help within less than 4 days. That clearly says something.
+1 Jack
The ONLY way to brick a nexus one is when a radio flash goes bad in recovery. Which is why I will only flash radios via fastboot. NOTHING else will do it. Except for physical issues with the phone like water or bad sectors etc.
I Think my question is fairly simple.
I want to upgrade to the latest German LA4 firmware, but my phone is XEN with KKA firmware (Dutch), so not supported yet.
Can I do that using ODIN, without loosing my warranty and without wiping?
Is using ODIN and upgrading an German firmware making me lose warrenty?
How to upgrade without wiping my settings and apps?
Looking through the forum didn’t gave me the confidence yet.
Thanx all!
EDIT: sorry wrong topic
on a related note, i installed LA4 over KKA via ODIN on PC. No wiping required for LA4. It was fairly simple. But you will lose root access if you install the stock rom via PC. I did it following the steps on dev forum and everything was smooth.
Thanx Orhon,
You know if it breaks my warranty?
I don't really know but people say you can just bring it back to the stock rom if you want to. But I am kinda unsure about it.
Root + CWM method is fairly simple and I installed first via it. I couldn't manage to install after some time(I selected the wrong file, shut the phone down and ended up in a bootloop) and decided to give Odin a try, it has both mobile and pc applications and i remember mobile app was pretty easy to apply in the first place )i should have probably used it). I installed stock KKA again with odin to gain root access and then I installed Rocket Rom via CWM. just to give you an idea, bootloop etc. may happen but it is managable as long as there is ODIN and CWM
if you just want the stock LA4, just download the file and follow the guide. This may also help, it is pretty much the same for note:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEjTaFg_2Ks
you can also make a backup in CWM just in case something goes wrong but then again, process with ODIN is pretty simple to install a stock rom and CWM is not compulsory.
Thanx again. It all went well. It's nonwipe. Someware else I found its not harming my warranty. So my phone is up-to-date again.
What I did:
Downloaded latest firmware with FUS, Using the folowing guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1386356
Thats all!
So i have decided to give my galaxy mini a new life with custom roms.
I have done my fair share of readin
I am not a complete noob and know my way around with these things
But i am still confused on some questions
1.Do i have to root before installing cwm recovery? I don't think that is a necessity
2. What do i have to do to return to stock?
As far as i have read, i just have to redo the steps taken to update to 2.3.x . (the phone is already on 2.3 to start with)will that be all?? I read phones getting bricked and flashing all 4 files to go back to stock and what not.
Can any one provide comprehensive steps or a link may be to return to complete stock including the stock recovery?
3. Also, can anyone link me up to stock firmwares And the necessary drivers? I live in INDIA.
Thank you!