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Hiya,
Since all my old music video's are in 320x240 format I'd like to re-encode my ORIGINAL music video files into 640x480 format.
Until now I've been using Nero Recode which gave me ease of use and a pretty nice result.
What program(s) are you using to encode your material and what settings?
I know the Diamond can pretty much play a divx/xvid without re-encoding, but I'd like a smaller filesize so I can place more files on it.
pocketdivx encoder is free, simple to use and produces good results
I use SPB Mobile
Thx for the suggestions.
I've been searching/reading a bit and I'm not an encoding expert, but from what I've read the best possible format would be H.264/AVC?
It would be awesome to get such an awesome movie quality that 'certain other brand phone users' would turn green in envy
My search continues!
Check THIS out for alot of info on the H264 format
I've tested a bit around with encoding Movie files.
Under Windows i become good results with Super from eRightSoft
But i use the most time Linux Debian. There is "AviDemux" you're friend
I'd converted some of my Musicclips in MP4 with AviDemux. In advance:
"MPEG-4 ASP Xvid" at "800KBit VBR"
"AAC (FAAC)" Audio at "128KBit"
Super from eRightSoft in advance:
"H.264 AVC" at "1000KBit CBR"
"AAC (LC)" at "128KBit" Audio
The results seems very pretty so far. But the video seems to stuck if the Bitrate is more than 1100KBit. All tested with Mobile Windows Media Player, because i dont have Coreplayer at the moment.
The old TCMP 0.xx gives an horrorble output. Too many framedrops etc.
Which formats are natively supported from the Qualcomm Chipset, knows that anyone ?
Ok. I recorded some video on my AT&T Tilt with a memory card. It plays fine on my phone. Well I want to get it on my computer. When I tried to, it was in the MP4 format. So I opened it with Quicktime and iTunes and it wouldn't play. It said there was an error. So I was gonna convert it. I tried to, but it gave me a warning saying that it would have no sound, so I didn't do that. Then I downloaded VLC Player and when I played the videos, they didn't have sound. I tried putting them in Windows Media Center, didn't work. I tried ActiveSync. Didn't work. There has to be some possible way to do this. PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!
Same thing happens to me. Now I just record in the other format, QIF I believe. And that works fine.
THANKYOU!!!!!!!!!!
how did you even get "good" video playback?
how did you even get "good" video on the TILT? is it the change in file type that makes the video better in itself? where do you change it?
You can change to CIF by selecting it from the Capture Settings menu (hit menu when the camera is running) under Resolution. The capture format can be changed from MPEG-4 to H.263 if you go to Advanced > Capture Format.
Recording in a well-lit environment helps. I'm not usually affected by placebo, but I and a few other users have reported increased camera performance after installing the latest test drivers for the Kaiser from htcclassaction.org. It DID seem that the framerate was higher. I can't rule out the possibility that updating to windows mobile 6.1 may have made a difference, but I know I don't keep apps running in the background and the comparison whilst not scientific would be pretty fair.
What can be used to view H.263 on the home pc? Will media player play it? And is there a good reason why it just doesn't record to .wmv or regular old mpeg? As you can tell I am a moron when it comes to video.
VLC will read it
kbcherry said:
What can be used to view H.263 on the home pc? Will media player play it? And is there a good reason why it just doesn't record to .wmv or regular old mpeg? As you can tell I am a moron when it comes to video.
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QuickTime will play H.263 encoded files.
The Tilt does not use WMV or MPEG because they do not have formats optimized for mobile devices, so the files end up being huge.
Thanks, that makes sense!
my mp4 videos run fine on wm player! try downloading the vista or xp codec pack which is available on most torrent sites
I know its old but anyway...I record video w/ my kaiser, bluetooth the video over to my laptop, convert with WM convert, open w/ movie maker, edit then post. Sooooooooo easy and no cables required!
You're all going through waaaay to much by using converters & what not. When recording in mpeg4 format just rename the files to ".3gp" after you transfer them to your computer and they will play regularly through quicktime with sound & everything intact.
download K lite codec pack: http://www.free-codecs.com/download/K_lite_codec_pack.htm
it will allow windows media player to play ANYTHING, throw and file at it and it will play
VLC Works for me
VLC works for me, try it
TLJack64 said:
You're all going through waaaay to much by using converters & what not. When recording in mpeg4 format just rename the files to ".3gp" after you transfer them to your computer and they will play regularly through quicktime with sound & everything intact.
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Use a converter to be able to edit the video in windows movie maker, it takes like 10 seconds to convert a MPEG4 to WMV. (i've got the codec pack but in order to edit the video you need to convert it.)
Is there an app which can play AVI files?
i think i will bump this as this is a most have and a down side to owning a hero !
Forward the notion.
I'm with you on this. Not being able to play .sci is a real pain.
I've also put some .mp4 files on which haven't played either for some reason. Does anyone know if there is a specific format for video on the hero? Is there a specific converter anyone is using ?
Cheers,
HP
Using something like Handbrake to convert your videos should work. If it has a setting for Apple iPods/iPhones just use that.
Or, it should support the following:
- MP4 container format
- MPEG-4 AVC (also known as h.264) video, max [email protected] (try main profile, try disabling CABAC and B-frames for more reliability)
- AAC (AAC-LC) audio, 48khz suggested sample rate
- Keep overall bitrate low, try from 800kbps to 2000kbps
like most mobile devices, ofcourse there is a limit on the codecs supported, and what levels and settings in the codec that work.
In the current state, all / most clips that are _above_ the native resolution won't play at all. And as a quick rule: H264 @ level 2.1 will work, maybe some 3.0 stuff also works, but I don't know.
Basicly, make sure the MP4's you have are iPhone compatible but 480x320 or lower resolution and the Hero will play them fine.
Any video converter tool (handbrake / Megui / Mediacoder / commercial tools) wil work if you give them the iPhone preset.
About playing AVI files, nobody has written anything yet. Don't really know why people didn't jump on the bandwagon for this kinda of thing. Mostly some sort of ffmpeg-based player will appear quickly on a platform. Maybe it's the java development thing.
Anyway, convert your video's to iphone compatibility at the moment and they should play fine.
Keep in mind that AVI is an older, inferior container format to MP4, and the MPEG-4 ASP (DivX) codec often used with AVI is inferior to MPEG-4 AVC (h.264) usually used with MP4. So you aren't being ripped off in terms of quality or technology. They just neglected to support the older format. Hopefully apps can bridge the gap in future (apps with native libraries that is, not the virtual machine). Given the lower system requirements, I'd say that it would probably be capable of playing an AVI/DivX file encoded up to 640x480x30fps (my old Nokia with a 369MHz CPU can come close).
For best results, however, use handbrake to convert from the original, or from your existing AVIs, to a nice ipod compatible, 480xsomething pixel MP4. Go direct from the original to MP4 (without AVI in between) for even better quality.
however, still after converting that video lags all the time (closed all apps either)
Did you update to the latest firmware? The original shipped firmware has a known issue that the video 'stutters' every second or so for a bit.
ah oaky, this might be the problem... waiting for donut released officially by htc for hero
As you may know, the Nook color has PowerVR SGX530 Graphics chip, which is also available on Droid 2 and Droid X.
This chip is pretty good when it comes to medium 3D performance and video playback. It can play videos quite nicely, but only the formats that it knows. Other formats will need to be played using software, which will give you medicore level playback.
If you have an MP4 files (which are encoded with H.264 Base level encoding), those files will play with hardware decoding great. However, if you have other video content (episodes, both in AVI/XVid or MKV/H.264 format), Nook will play them badly with 3rd party software (rock player, vplayer, etc).
Thats where FFMPEG could help a lot, if you're using Linux, all you need to do is install ffmpeg and run the following command:
Code:
ffmpeg -y -threads 8 -i myvideo.avi -b 800k -bt 1000k -vcodec libx264 -vpre default -vpre baseline -acodec libfaac -ac 2 -ar 44100 -ab 128k mynewvideo.mp4
the "myvideo.avi" is your original AVI file, and "mynewvideo.mp4" is the new MP4 file which could be played nicely on the Nook Color. Please note: if your video is bigger then 854x480, then you need to add the -s XxY where XxY is the width:height of the video (example: 640x352). If your video needs a new aspect ratio, you can use the -aspect parameter (example: -aspect 16:9)
If you're using a mac, then handbrake is your friend, as other tools which are based on ffmpeg.
On Windows you can either install FFMPEG for Windows, or you can use An application called "Any Video converter", and simply select your original file name, Select X264 as video codec, and convert. The output file should be played well.
No matter what conversion software you use, make sure that the H.264 profile that you use is set to base-level (or "base"). Anything higher cannot be played by the nook without frame skipping.
If you want to test if your video can be played with hardware acceleration, upload your video to your Nook (or to the Micro SD card), open any file manager and click on the mp4 file. Try to play the video with the "Movies" built in app. If the app will recognize your video, it will play it without any issues or frame skipping.
Good luck
Hetz
HandBrake can be used on Windows also
I read there are aspect ratio issues with the built in player. But I also read that even in mp4 base other video players can't take advantage of the hardware playback accel (proprietary drivers). Is that correct?
Handbrake doesn't work for windows?
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Handbrake doesn't work for windows?
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Handbrake works great on Windows. Encoded a few this week for the Nook and ran like buttah.
Out of curiosity, why not just use RockPlayer. I'm yet to get an NC so I may be missing something.
It runs kind of choppy on video files encoded with anything other H.264/MPEG4 and the audio seems to get out of sync quickly
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And linux.
the latest version of rock player seems to have a lot better handle on audio sync...
we can never watch the avi videos without converting ?
Maybe
yemin88 said:
we can never watch the avi videos without converting ?
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It really depends how the official Froyo update (coming in January) will improve performance.
rock player works fine... the problem is that you cant have above a 480p video. the reason is its not the audio thats lagging its the video studdering and thats whats causing the lagg
The topic title should read "how to watch videos on your nook if you run Linux"
You added all the settings you need for it, but not for the other operating systems lol You can run the file through any of these programs, (speaking Mac/Win) but just because you encode it with H.264 doesn't mean its going to play smoothly. If your source file is 1080p, this obviously isn't going to work.
My source file is:
H.264
Deinterlaced
720p
30fps
VBR 1 pass
AAC. 192kbps 48kHz, Stereo
So far Im at a video file @ 1024x576 at 15fps (tried to pull the Consistent Quality slider to 100%, but didn't see much differance) thats had the smoothest playback.
Now Im pretty much brand new to video editing and making, are there any settings I could be useing to make this file more smooth using Handbreak....or even more so In Adobe Premiere?
Im basically trying to see what the highest quality the Nook can take. Not to mention a continuous video of my coral reef while Im at work sitting next to me on my NC would b kinda epic
I use DropFolders. It uses HandBrake & you set it up with a watch folder & a destination folder. All you do is drop a video in the watch folder & it converts the file & puts it in your destination folder. You set up the HandBrake arguements in Drop Folders. Works like a charm.
Cheers,
kev
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The topic title should read "how to watch videos on your nook if you run Linux"
You added all the settings you need for it, but not for the other operating systems lol You can run the file through any of these programs, (speaking Mac/Win) but just because you encode it with H.264 doesn't mean its going to play smoothly. If your source file is 1080p, this obviously isn't going to work.
My source file is:
H.264
Deinterlaced
720p
30fps
VBR 1 pass
AAC. 192kbps 48kHz, Stereo
So far Im at a video file @ 1024x576 at 15fps (tried to pull the Consistent Quality slider to 100%, but didn't see much differance) thats had the smoothest playback.
Now Im pretty much brand new to video editing and making, are there any settings I could be useing to make this file more smooth using Handbreak....or even more so In Adobe Premiere?
Im basically trying to see what the highest quality the Nook can take. Not to mention a continuous video of my coral reef while Im at work sitting next to me on my NC would b kinda epic
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According to the published specs for the NC, the default app will not play video above 854x480. If you want to use hardware decoding through the default app, you'll need to scale that down from 1024.
I have several videos encoded using one of the latest nightly builds of handbrake for NC, and with the constant quality set at 20, playback is flawless. You can use the "Apple Universal" setting to get the required baseline profile for MP4 and then adjust the video size as you like.
You can also use the "High Profile" and change some settings and per HERE. I was, however, able to set the max width above 720, unlike the third poster.
Innnnnnteresting! Thank you! I will give this a shot and see what I come up with
I posted a handbrake preset here. It works well for me.
Hi why can you try rockplayer for play video like divx
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Handbrake doesn't work for windows?
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Don't worry, I found an easy way to convert videos for nook color, read the article "Nook Color Video Converter Review – easy play any video on Nook Color"
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Got a Nook Color over the weekend, and video looks great using the Handbrake preset posted here... I'm using Autonooter, and the built in Gallery app to play it. However, I'm curious, if I decided to try out Honeycomb, will other video player apps use hardware decoding with files encoded with the Handbrake preset, or is it limited to the stock Nook app? Thanks!
Hi there!
I have gotten to new Lg Optimus 2x now for about a week and I am getting a bit annoyed now. I bought it purely on Being able to play full HD Movies on my Tv. But with countless hours spent on forums and trying with different players, and also differnt types of formats.
What I have on the phone now is QQplayer and arcmedia and ofcourse Lg's player
Formats I have used and there display quality:
.AVI Works in QQ, Arc but not in LG's
.Xvid Works in all
.Mkv (480p) Works in QQ ,Arc but not LG's Also this is where the framerate goes down.... out of sync audio.
.Mkv (720p) Just awfull
I am now converting a 720p movie to mp4 format h.264 to try if that works but it takes ages and I can't be botherd to convert a movie for 4h when I want to watch it on my TV.
So what can be done.. why can it play back some lame teasers on full hd but not a bloody movie in decent quality on 480p...
What should I try to convert movies and episodes to?(prefix)
The phone is not Rooted and I have no experience in that matter
Kind regards!
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So what can be done.. why can it play back some lame teasers on full hd but not a bloody movie in decent quality on 480p...
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Because a video is not just a video
Video consist of 3 parts
videopart encoded to some specific format (xvid, divx, mpeg-4, h264, mpeg-2) etc
audiopart encoded to some specific format (mp3, ac3, dts) etc.
a container (avi, mp4, mkv) etc. that encapsulates the video and audio part
furthermore the video and audio part are not just encoded in specific formats, but according to specific settings - often called profiles. These define things like bitrate, b-frames, ref.frames, and other technical stuff
The chipset only support hardware acceleration (which is needed to play video in high resolution) for certain types of formats, and only when encoded after certain specifications, and only when encapsulated in certain containers, and finally only when being played by the LG player.
Other players cannot utilize the hardware acceleration but rely on software filters like ffmpeg, these give you the possibility to play formats that are not supported by the chip itself or by LG's player by using these software filters. But this also means there are no hardware acceleration to help the playback and therefore you can only play these in standard resolution and/or you can get synch issues between video/audio.
the main format supported by the chip and the LG player is called mpeg-4/h264 - and its only supported inside an mp4 container - mkv are not supported.
The encoding of the video part mpeg-4/h264 are only supported up to a certain profile level - meaning it only support upto a certain bitrate, a certain number of ref.frames, of b-frames etc. It also only support certain audio formats, mainly aac. It wont play your downloaded 720p/1080p mkv with ac3 or dts audio, and a videotrack using h264 profile level H4.1 or more with lots of ref.frames
In short you cannot just throw any downloaded or home cooked video to the mobile and expect it play - it wont. Secondly if you bought it to be a generic HD mediaplayer for these types of videofiles, then you bought it for the wrong reasons. It is not a generic HD mediaplayer, its a mobile phone, with the ability to record and play up to fullHD video - if these comply to the specifications which are supported. This videoability are mainly targeted at recording video of reasonable quality (for a mobile phone) and playing web2 content like youtube HD video which complies to these standards.
Nothing more - it wasnt designed to be your HD mediaplayer replacement
So what to do ?
make sure youre videos are encoded as h264 using max profile level 3.1 and max 10mbps bitrate - using an AAC audiotrack and encapsulated in an .mp4 container. Then they will play in HD resolution.
Now all you need is reading a couple of hundreds websites and guides on how to check your files for these specifications (mediainfo), remux video from an mkv container to an mp4 container if the video and audio inside are allready compliant, or how to reencode to desired specifications if they are not compliant.
Very usefull mini guide into the jungle of video/audio, codec, splitters and containers.
Knowing this makes it easy to setup DVDFab and other rippers/converters (hopefully).
Thanks
I tested some h264 formats on the LG2x. Baseline profile works fine for 1080p video, I tried that up to 10mbit/s. Main profile works, but is too slow on 1080p and I think 720p also. It might work with SD resolutions, but I didn't test this. High profile simply isn't even recognized by the LG media player. I did try all profile levels, it ate all of them. Perhaps someone else can figure out the maximum bitrate the device will play smoothly, and what the "maximum" resolution for the main profile is (and at what bitrate).
So if you're putting h264 HD material on there, put it in an mp4 container with AAC audio, and use the baseline profile. 10mbit/s worked fine for the 1080p source I tested with (Looney Tunes Short Fur of Flying).
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In short you cannot just throw any downloaded or home cooked video to the mobile and expect it play - it wont.
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Hrms, can an app do this? Like for instance, on a desktop/laptop, Window's default player is not the greatest- however, here comes VLC player & it damn plays anything. My point is, can there be a App out there in our future that does this too for Android?
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Hrms, can an app do this? Like for instance, on a desktop/laptop, Window's default player is not the greatest- however, here comes VLC player & it damn plays anything. My point is, can there be a App out there in our future that does this too for Android?
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An app on Android can not use the hardware acceleration! On a computer however, a program (like vlc) is able to use your full power!
Hi all
Read this guide "How to make videos to Optimus 2x using Handbrake"
http://www.knowyourcell.com/lg/lg-optimus-2x/optimus-2x-guides/697986/how_to_convert_videos_and_transfer_them_to_the_lg_optimus_2x.html
Hi.. THX that is great help.. Very interesting.... .
Do you think that we can expect some 3rd party video player using hardware acceleration of Tegra 2 in Market soon.? Playing .mkv and other HD formats.? Or it is not possible.?
I do not know, but if Tegra 2 will be used in other phones than Optimus 2x ... drivers might be upgraded to support more video types.
Walvater said:
An app on Android can not use the hardware acceleration! On a computer however, a program (like vlc) is able to use your full power!
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RAWrrrRRR!! WHY?? Okay, I kinda get it thanks...
Its a fact that HW acceleration can only be used when/if Nvidia Tegra 2 drivers supports it.
But any app can play any format if it have the right SW decoder (using CPU).
Optimus 2x should be fast enough to play quality video (DVD resolution 720×576) using sole SW decoders
Isn´t Full HD on a mobilephone a total overkill and kind of waste?
If I want to se a movie on my Full HD Flatscreen I use my Media Center or BluRay player
im not sure what you guys looking for but all movies i downloded from internet just fly
gintas111 said:
im not sure what you guys looking for but all movies i downloded from internet just fly
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What kind of movies
YouTube videos ?
Hi Mittaa,
how does it work with big files..? You can only put files up to 4 Gb on the SD card can't you..? So there is not enough room for 1080p movies..???
element332 said:
Hi Mittaa,
how does it work with big files..? You can only put files up to 4 Gb on the SD card can't you..? So there is not enough room for 1080p movies..???
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As I said ... "Isn´t Full HD on a mobilephone a total overkill and kind of waste?"
FAT32 SD card can't handle files > 2GB
Maby you could split files and maby Android supports filessystems other than FAT16 and FAT32 ... I don't know
I think it is not a overkill. I don't have any way of getting HD content on my TV (BlueRay, Playstation, etc) so i can sure use this.
Or when I travel I can just plug my phone to the TV in the hotel room and watch the movie.
Overkill? Whats wrong with that?
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Overkill? Whats wrong with that?
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I agree. This phone has the specs to run it, & space is up to the owner to use. I remember a headline from Engadget stating that the "the 2X has a crazy amount of codecs for video media" when it's released in S. Korea. .mkv is probably the most popular container for HD videos- disappointing the 2X does not support this...
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Overkill? Whats wrong with that?
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How is it possible to play 1080X1920 on a 480x800 screen?
It might be possible to use 1080X1920 when using HDMI mirror, but then how much space do you have on your phone? And do you want to split files > 2GB?
OK ... if you use hard compression file size drops ... but then quality also drops to something that you can compare with DVD resolution!
What I ment was that I personally prefare a lower resolution in a good quality
DVD resolution 720×576 ajusted to my phone (MPEG4) take up about 1-2GB and I use to have around 6-8 good movies on my 16GB SD card.
I too hope that more formats will be supported ... at the moment its just not good enough ...
optimus 2x supports baseline profile 4.1
basically it means that most of the 720p media files you'll find in the internet won't play smoothly because they are encoded according to high profile or even have been encoded after specifically more quality wise settings
if you need to encode for 2x you basically need software such as handbrake, set on the iphone and ipod touch profile on the right and change the resolution to your preference up to 1920 width and then set the bitrate so that the maximum won't go over 20Mbit
basically avg 15 would be fine though because of the fat32 limitations 4 gigabytes, it would be wise to calculate the bitrate according to the maximum file size
i do not know if Android supports ExtFat, which supports much higher filesizes, but because of the baseline profile limitations it doesn't really make any real difference between 1080p 15kbit/s or 5kbit/s video stream nor does those additional settings in Handbrake software
there is no "almost lossless" settings for optimus 2x, only thing matters is the speed for reencoding the bloody internet