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[Q] Best Froyo Rom

Ok guys, I am a new android user and I do want to upgrade to Android 2.2
But it seems like there are 1000 versions of it! Can somebody explain the differences and good things and bad things about them. Or, at least just tell me which one is the best to install!
Thanks...

Honestly, the best way to find out what you like best is by flashing them and deciding for yourself.
That said, the majority of rom pages have listed what is included or removed as well as the dev's personal tweaks.
Personally, i am running the latest cognition, but i have flashed just about everything on here probably.
Test a few out, get comfortable with the process, and make you own well informed decision
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Best Rom
Thanks, but Cognitive group is giving a new version almost every other day! this way you can not install any app! I was thinking if there is any comparison between ROMs. I dont know some benchmark, like how fast is one , how accurate the GPS is , how much original code is used in the ROM or similar things...Is tehre any place that I can find a list of all the ROMS and at least some brief information about each one?

aminj said:
Thanks, but Cognitive group is giving a new version almost every other day! this way you can not install any app! I was thinking if there is any comparison between ROMs. I dont know some benchmark, like how fast is one , how accurate the GPS is , how much original code is used in the ROM or similar things...Is tehre any place that I can find a list of all the ROMS and at least some brief information about each one?
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You backup your apps with titanium back up. When I flash a new cog 15-20 minutes tops from flash to final setup.
As far as what is best is an opinion. I will say this though, some are for more advanced users, so you better read and be sure of yourself.
I have only flashed cog roms and knock on wood I have avoided catastrophic mistakes.
Captivate
Cog 2.2

Any of the i9000 ROMs are the best.
Cognition is the easiest to install.
Your choice.

None of the cooked roms are perfect for you, rather you are looking for one that meets most of your needs, just as stock is meant to satisfy the masses and as such it stinks.
That being said, if you are just starting out try cognition as it is easy and you can find all your questions answered in that thread if you read. And you don't have to flag every version.
You will likely find though that there are many other alternatives depending on what you are looking for, hsupa, bt voice, oc,/uv, on and on, and flashing can become an addiction.
swyped from a captivate running doc's jpo+setiron kernel

As an android newbie cognition had allowed me to flash roms without blowing my phone up. They are a major upgrade over stock and do not require a degree in com sci to install .
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Cog 2.4

Right. My best advice is to learn how to flash, learn clockwork mod, and learn adb terminal commands. Once you are familiar with these three things you will have a better understanding of what it is you are looking for.
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I can offer one bit of advice, I was a noob to android before the captivate and i can tell you, before you get flamed, always do a search before posting any questions.
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I agree with MikeyMike. I love the I9000 ROMS, but start out with the easy stuff first. The I9000's are a usually more involved with flashing kernels and modems, hsupa, oc/uv, lagfixes and the like are definately not for beginners. I used Cognition in the beginning because it was easily packaged and in a noob friendly package. The more I read the more I experimented with things, I am now a flash junkie. Read the development section of the forum, that's where all the goodies are. Get familiar with Odin, ClockworkMod Recovery and Titanium Backup, they are a flashers best friend. Learn about kernels, modems, and ROMS, understand what they are an what they do to your phone, read the threads before flashing and you will find everything you need to know, any trouble you may encounter and how to recover from problems. Welcome aboard!

[Q] ROM survey

Specifically for the Samsung Captivate, why did you choose the ROM you have currently flashed on your phone and why? If you know about more than one ROM, would you mind telling me what you liked and disliked about each? It would be very helpful to me.

Please post this on the right section...we want to keep development for actual development...

I'm using Bacon and Axura with Red Soul theme. I love both rom because they are fast!
You can find more information in the ROM thread itself.

shaolin95 said:
Please post this on the right section...we want to keep development for actual development...
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I do apologize. Didn't realize I posted here and meant to do so in the Q and A.
Could we get a mod to move it, please?

I asked the same thing...in development.....got a tongue lashing for being in the wrong thread and was directed here....wish you all would make up your mind!!!

I was a flashing fool. Did my fair share of trials and tests.
I ran through the Cognition roms. Loved each one as they got better and better. Vodoo lagfix is pretty easy if you understand how and when to disable. Pretty straight forward and noob friendly.
Perception is fast, shiny and new. Based on the I9000, the roms seem to need a bunch of tweaks and changes to get it to run decently. I was never happy with the performance I got from these and well I never really used it to it's full potential either.
So for now I'm back on JH7. I mostly use the phone just as that, a phone. No real advantage in using a custom rom for that.

It still depends on what you are looking for
Similar to earlier post I used the cog roms for a while. Easy to install and stable.
Currently on perception, much faster then stock our cognition. It has a ton of options for tweaks, but is a little more dangerous because it is less idiot proof. I am on the build 3 release and to be honest I will not be changing my rom for singer time.
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Currently running auxura. It is a fantastic rom.... but you need to have a little knowledge on how to flash and use cement.
Its a very complete rom with an awesome theme and it is quick once you set it up correctly.
But. I do live Cognition .... just waiting for another release before. I flash back to it again lol.
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I'm using and loving di11igaf's ROM. I used many variations of Cognition and I really appreciate it for bringing me into the world of custom ROMs, but the last version (2.3B6) seemed slow in comparison to AXURA and di11igaf's ROM. I really like the theme and speed of di11igaf's ROM.

Thanks for all the replies! I keep learning more and more every time I check this board out. I'm an ex iOS user and decided to move to Android and everything is tons different, very open, in fact. I think I'll continue to do more research on all the different ROMs and builds and make a little database for myself based on my research and decide from there. Then again, I'm sure the only way to know what I want is to flash each one.

I have yet to see any rom to match the speed of a i9000 based Rom. I have tried almost all of them and always come back to i9000 ROMs as they have the features I want and the best speed. Of course we all have different priorities.

Debating on overclocking my phone

I have a samsung captivate, it runs fine but like everyone I'd like it to be a little faster. Now I've been reading into the whole overclocking thing and it sounds awesome but I'd like to get some of your opinions first. There is a app that you can download that allows you to overclock it fairly easily, but I just don't want to kill my phone. What are your opinions? And if you monitor your temp and don't let it get to high, you'd think that I'd be just as safe as if it wasn't overclocked. I've read people having their phone get to 160 degrees, mines not overclocked yet but the highest I've been able to manage is around 110. If I were to overclock, can you give me a idea at what your temp is? And at what temp should I lay off it for a while, thanks.

jamezz23 said:
I have a samsung captivate, it runs fine but like everyone I'd like it to be a little faster. Now I've been reading into the whole overclocking thing and it sounds awesome but I'd like to get some of your opinions first. There is a app that you can download that allows you to overclock it fairly easily, but I just don't want to kill my phone. What are your opinions? And if you monitor your temp and don't let it get to high, you'd think that I'd be just as safe as if it wasn't overclocked. I've read people having their phone get to 160 degrees, mines not overclocked yet but the highest I've been able to manage is around 110. If I were to overclock, can you give me a idea at what your temp is? And at what temp should I lay off it for a while, thanks.
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TBHIMO , i wouldn't overclock because it's fast enough even at 800Mhz (what i'm running at) . i like having a longer lasting phone .
BUT if you are not content with 1Ghz , then i think you should flash a kernel with Xan's Undervolting App compatible and overclock so you can undervolt at higher clock speeds .
not too sure what the temps would be when overclocked since i never OCd my phone . OCing decreases the battery life of the processor FYI .

Okay thanks for your opinion. Like you I also don't want to decrease my phones lifespan. But I have also read people saying if your phones temp stays normal that it does not harm your phone anyway at all. Looking to get a few more opinions.

I tried it and couldn't be patient enough to get it stable even at 1200MHz, so I left it as is. It's quite fast already, but needed to try it out to make sure I wasn't missing out. To be honest I was more interested in UVing the phone to increase my already good battery life on Serendipity.
Most if not all Captivates can do 1200Mhz at stock voltages. This will however raise your temps just a bit, hence the reason to UV.
If I were you just try it at 1200 and see where that gets you. If you can get that going, you can always write down your settings and push it a bit further. Here's the oft-circulated guide to OCing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10936691&postcount=1102
If you don't feel comfortable doing that, then be happy knowing your phone is plenty fast already

Okay, thanks for the link. I just read the comments on the overclocking app in the marketplace and everyone saying its made their phone run way smoother and that they recommend it to everyone so I'm just trying to see if its really worth it.

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Okay, thanks for the link. I just read the comments on the overclocking app in the marketplace and everyone saying its made their phone run way smoother and that they recommend it to everyone so I'm just trying to see if its really worth it.
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umm, you aren't running stock right? You have to be running a kernel that supports oc/uv

Overclocking is very safe specially at 1.2 where I have not seen any kernels going crazy with voltages for example.
Like someone mentioned, the overclocking tool wont do anything unless you have a kernel capable of overclocking though.
My favorite for froyo is Paragon but Suckerpunch or Onix are good too.
For CM7 my favorite is Trident so far.
Not everyone needs the extra speed but if you feel you do, give it a show and dont be scared about killing the CPU. If you see your phone going over 50C then I would back down but I have only seen mine go like to 56C once with one single kernel that was way too voltage happy at high speeds lol

shaolin95 said:
Overclocking is very safe specially at 1.2 where I have not seen any kernels going crazy with voltages for example.
Like someone mentioned, the overclocking tool wont do anything unless you have a kernel capable of overclocking though.
My favorite for froyo is Paragon but Suckerpunch or Onix are good too.
For CM7 my favorite is Trident so far.
Not everyone needs the extra speed but if you feel you do, give it a show and dont be scared about killing the CPU. If you see your phone going over 50C then I would back down but I have only seen mine go like to 56C once with one single kernel that was way too voltage happy at high speeds lol
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Okay I'll have to do some research. Kinda new to android. Where do I find kernels like the one you mentioned? Thanks for the help.

jamezz23 said:
Okay I'll have to do some research. Kinda new to android. Where do I find kernels like the one you mentioned? Thanks for the help.
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If you are still on stock, I would suggest doing some research and flashing a custom rom, that will give you a different kernel, plus a lot of other performance tweaks, maybe just enabling a lagfix to convert the file system to Ext4 is all you would need instead of overclocking.

studacris said:
If you are still on stock, I would suggest doing some research and flashing a custom rom, that will give you a different kernel, plus a lot of other performance tweaks, maybe just enabling a lagfix to convert the file system to Ext4 is all you would need instead of overclocking.
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All I have done to my phone so far is download adw launcher ex from the market place. I'm not familiar with flashing roms just yet. Might give it a shot tonight its not to hard. Roms seem to be the popular thing for the captivate.

Well, my cappy is 2 weeks old, I'm running Serendipity and LOVING it. Do a lot of reading b4 doing any rom's. It's not that simple. I suggest titanium back up, from the market, as well as rom manager. Back up ur apps. I just flashed paragons kernel, search this site for it. It had 3 or 4 versions of it from stock to oc'd to 1400. I started with a 1280 oc and now running 1360? Approx. I am blazing fast and no problems at all. If you have a custom rom oc'ing shouldn't be an issue, just read, read, read. Good luck.
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jamezz23 said:
All I have done to my phone so far is download adw launcher ex from the market place. I'm not familiar with flashing roms just yet. Might give it a shot tonight its not to hard. Roms seem to be the popular thing for the captivate.
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Yeah flashig roms is extremely popular and for good reason...you wont be believe how much better the phone can be until you try a custom ROM. As for lagfixes...I am not a big fan because I feel that when 2.2.1 roms started to show up the lag fixes did not make much difference and for me in cases made things worst. The best lag fix by FAR I have used is the actual CM7 ROM...damn that thing has no lag at all but that is a different level of difficulty to install it...nothing huge but I do this way too often.
A normal ROM is quite easy but READ a lot and ASK a lot before doing it to make sure you have a good experience.

you dont need to overclock unless you do heavy processing, such as running 3d games and emulators. i only overclock when gaming and throw it back down to 1000mhz under normal conditions.

shaolin95 said:
Yeah flashig roms is extremely popular and for good reason...you wont be believe how much better the phone can be until you try a custom ROM. As for lagfixes...I am not a big fan because I feel that when 2.2.1 roms started to show up the lag fixes did not make much difference and for me in cases made things worst. The best lag fix by FAR I have used is the actual CM7 ROM...damn that thing has no lag at all but that is a different level of difficulty to install it...nothing huge but I do this way too often.
A normal ROM is quite easy but READ a lot and ASK a lot before doing it to make sure you have a good experience.
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And aside from being a little complicated, CM7 isn't in it final release yet so it will be buggy, which if you are new to Android isn't a good ROM to start with. Check out the Android Development section. The top ROMs (based on visits to their Topics, but not in Order) are Serendipity, Cognition, Firefly, Phoenix, Darky's......there are more but that is off the top of my head.

Darkys is a little complicated for a beginner. Don't forget Continuum. Cezar just released v4.
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I think a good start for a flash noob would be cognition, its closest to stock and you will notice instantly the speed boost. My favorite though is firefly

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I think a good start for a flash noob would be cognition, its closest to stock and you will notice instantly the speed boost. My favorite though is firefly
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+1 on trying cognition. If you like the stock look and feel it's a good place to start. I personally dont see much of a difference when I have my phone overclocked to 1500. Maybe thats just me though.
Im running serendipity 6.3 now and I think my phone is very fast. I had an inspire and an atrix and to be honest my captivate is almost if not as fast as they were.
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My friend has a captivate it will not turn on at all help please
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zanywood said:
My friend has a captivate it will not turn on at all help please
Google "xda captivate won't boot", gotta put some effort in man!
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Thanks for all the replies. My buddy has done some flashing before and we are gonna do this process together so I don't mess anything up. We are going with cognition 4.3, looks to be most stable and has the no lag fix and some other cool stuff. The videos that we will be following is for a older cognition, version 4 I believe, the process should still be the same right? Also the videos was published by mobiletechreviews, I believe that he is part of the xda community. So this is what I'm leaning on doing tomorrow when my buddy comes over, but if someone mentions something better we'd definitely like to hear about it. The person that said they prefer wirefly or I think that's what he called it, can you tell me why you like that better? Thanks for the help so far.

[POLL] Which rom?

Hey Yall, I'm a longtime cappy user,
Have had a couple already but I have moved on to the Atrix, great phone btw,
But the cappy still holds a special place for me. Anyhow, I would like to get everyone's help in deciding roms for my Dad and Wife, Which I'm giving cappy's to as presents.
Now The main reason is that I would like to keep in touch using the gtalk voice application. (I travel alot and this is very usefull when I'm abroad).
So , in you guys oppinion, what would be the best ROM for people who don't mess with the phones and just want them to work and being able to use 2.3+
Thanks
Gabe

its all about personal preference. cant really have a 3rd party tell em whats best for them. threads like this gets closed quickly.wth that said already, there's stock 2.3.3 KF1 for i897. i think stock is best for non-phonemodders

Yeah, I tend to agree with that stock would be best. But the thing is that I think google talk voice and video capabilities are dependant on it being 2.3.4 or +.I'm not sure,
Basically I would like to know about the roms that aren't as jumpy as other. Because As I Agree with it being a personal user problem, whn my fam have phne problems it usually falls in my lap.
Thanks,
PS: I hope this tread dosen't get closed as fast as you say, I figure it's the Q/A forum, if it cant be posted here, where can it, right?

gabloco said:
PS: I hope this tread dosen't get closed as fast as you say, I figure it's the Q/A forum, if it cant be posted here, where can it, right?
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They are looked down upon. Each developer puts their own time and hard work in to their roms. And having whoever say this one is best and that one sucks is not called for. Because everyone has their own opinions and no two are the same. Same for every rom they have their differences. which people may like and may not like.
Is why i look down on best rom threads.

I respect that.
I have hoped to have worded differently where What I meant was:
The ROM that has been toughly tested, and isn't dependent of users expertise on CPU OC, Configuration Files, Knowledge of ROOT explorer, SQL Browsers, ETC. (under the hood stuff)
Something that doesn't necessarily offer all the configurations options, that might get someone in trouble, that also offers the current latest android subversion.
I guess it's too much of a complicated question for a just simple yes or no.
So I guess I'll just find myself content in have asked.

I ment no harm in my comment but,
If you don't want them messing with so so or having this or that as an option then just leave them on stock like CremeFraiche had said (And maybe with lag fix kernel, if its still around) or teach them (if they are willing to learn) what stuff means, dose, and how it works. They in turn can decide on what they would want to suit them best.
I hope some of this can help you out

gabloco said:
Hey Yall, I'm a longtime cappy user,
Have had a couple already but I have moved on to the Atrix, great phone btw,
But the cappy still holds a special place for me. Anyhow, I would like to get everyone's help in deciding roms for my Dad and Wife, Which I'm giving cappy's to as presents.
Now The main reason is that I would like to keep in touch using the gtalk voice application. (I travel alot and this is very usefull when I'm abroad).
So , in you guys oppinion, what would be the best ROM for people who don't mess with the phones and just want them to work and being able to use 2.3+
Thanks
Gabe
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I think a great fit for ur Dad and wife would be Cognition 5 v1.00
Based on the leaked I897UCKF1 Gingerbread 2.3.3

MIUI definately!!!!!
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I would say Apex 8.2 or Serendipity 7

As far as GB ROMs go, I've only tried Apex. I liked it, it has good performance and runs pretty smooth. I haven't gotten around to trying out the other GB ROMs yet so I can't say anything about them. However a rooted ROM might not be the best to go with for them. Both of my parents got Captivates so I could be their goto guy for instruction and debug. I think giving them a Rooted phone is just asking for additional trouble. I think a stock ROM with a nice theme (if you want them to be a little different) is the way to go for them.

[Q] Low RAM Rom

Hi Everyone,
I've been lurking here and there reading threads on how to root, remove bloatware, and return to stock on my Captivate. This forum has been a HUGE help and for that, I'm extremely thankful for all of the hard work it goes into doing the hard work.
However, I'm out of questions with easy answers and hope ya'll can help me out.
As stated, I have an AT&T Captivate. I use this device for one purpose and that's to play Kabams Kingdoms of Middle Earth. That's it, nothing else. This game used to play well on my Captivate, but it has upgraded beyond the phones capabilities.On the Captivate, the game runs EXTREMELY slow and crashes frequently. You tap on something and it registers 10 seconds later. I know it's a low RAM issue as a LG 925 has no problems running the game at all.
I've rooted the phone and used Titanium backup to remove many items I don't need. It's helped a little, but not to the point of still being useful.
My question pertains to what other ROMs I can use. I see some posts regarding NeatKernel. My problem is unless it's simple point and click like Odin, I'm uneducated in this matter. So I'm really hoping there is something I can download and use Odin to flash.
Can ya'll help?
Thanks,
Tim

myowneq said:
Hi Everyone,
I've been lurking here and there reading threads on how to root, remove bloatware, and return to stock on my Captivate. This forum has been a HUGE help and for that, I'm extremely thankful for all of the hard work it goes into doing the hard work.
However, I'm out of questions with easy answers and hope ya'll can help me out.
As stated, I have an AT&T Captivate. I use this device for one purpose and that's to play Kabams Kingdoms of Middle Earth. That's it, nothing else. This game used to play well on my Captivate, but it has upgraded beyond the phones capabilities.On the Captivate, the game runs EXTREMELY slow and crashes frequently. You tap on something and it registers 10 seconds later. I know it's a low RAM issue as a LG 925 has no problems running the game at all.
I've rooted the phone and used Titanium backup to remove many items I don't need. It's helped a little, but not to the point of still being useful.
My question pertains to what other ROMs I can use. I see some posts regarding NeatKernel. My problem is unless it's simple point and click like Odin, I'm uneducated in this matter. So I'm really hoping there is something I can download and use Odin to flash.
Can ya'll help?
Thanks,
Tim
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Custom ROMs aren't installed through Odin, you'll have to flash them through recovery. There's a good guide in the stickies to get you started (read, read ,read!!!).
Good thing though, as long as you follow the OP's instructions, it should be very easy.
I've heard great things about GamerzROM, I believe it is a JB ROM, which runs nicer on the Cappy than KK anyway.
Note though that there's a point where software can only do so much. Hardware has to keep up too.

BWolf56 said:
Custom ROMs aren't installed through Odin, you'll have to flash them through recovery. There's a good guide in the stickies to get you started (read, read ,read!!!).
Good thing though, as long as you follow the OP's instructions, it should be very easy.
I've heard great things about GamerzROM, I believe it is a JB ROM, which runs nicer on the Cappy than KK anyway.
Note though that there's a point where software can only do so much. Hardware has to keep up too.
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I have to say: it's kind of overhyped to be honest. My extSD just died the other day, and I took the chance to test out the ROM. V4 is really unstable, and it doesn't come with a pre-config-ed kernel like the i9000 version does, so you're on your own in that front. V3 is pretty sluggish, like most JB roms.
@OP
Pick from one of these:
Slim 4.2 - Probably the fastest non-GB ROM IMO. Semaphore and GearKernel is the only kernel still available (most others like Glitch no longer has a working mirror IIRC), and Gear itself is based on Semaphore, so expect similar performances. What Gear has in its favor is the range of governors and schedulers available, so you can play around to see which one delivers the best performance.
CyanAOSP 4.2.2 - CM Base. The SN base feels significantly more sluggish, but gaming performance seems to be the same. Does not play nice with Semaphore and Gear (breaks ALL video playback), so you'll have to use the author's own Semaphore fork - CyanCore.
Cyanogenmod 7 - Fastest ROM for this device. Your game might not support Gingerbread though.
Kernel setting:
Performance + BigMem + SIO. You can switch Performance for SmartAssV2 if you want to save battery while not running the game.