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SD card issues

Has anyone else got issues with the use of SD cards in their Alpine derivitive?
Like the card not showing as being there when you try to write to it or explore the phone with file explorer or ActiveSync?
Perhaps videos on the card stop whilst watching them with a file error or the like?
Mine does with all 4 different makes of card I have tried and I am wondering if this is a common fault.

Yep its a very common fault.
I think everyone has the same experiences. (Me included)
what version ROMs do you have ?
there is an upgrade available if yours is the origonal, the upgrade will help a bit.
have a look here ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=25801
But read to the Third page as "Pug" psted a more up to date package

I am using Pug's Radio version 1.03 hybrid, but continue to suffer!
I have downloaded a SD Card benchmarking utility, my card is showing as 4.7x, but I don't know how that relates to manufacturers quoted speeds. It is either painfully slow or uses a different scale!

1GB SD from Transcend
Some ppl said the Transcend 512 SD works well on the 2i, just wonder if the 1 GB will work as good as the 512...
Any comment will be appreciated

Does anyone know where to get the 4 GB SD-Cards cheapest?
And what branches are there?
A-Data and Pretec i know, but are there more?

Re: 1GB SD from Transcend
bryan_suen said:
Some ppl said the Transcend 512 SD works well on the 2i, just wonder if the 1 GB will work as good as the 512...
Any comment will be appreciated
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I bought a Transcend 256mb 80X card an my XDA IIi has worked flawlessly since with no lock-ups what-so-ever.
I can't speak for the 1mb though!
This seems to be a power issue, the Transcend cards are very low voltage and ampage. My old SanDisk card would fail every time a network function took place, and they are high power drains.

I bought a OEM (white labelled) 1GB MMC and use it on my IIi. Everything is fine so far...
Is there any difference between MMC and SD in terms of IIi flaws?
:?:

Only SD cards are supported by the XDA2i, although if you use the backpack addon i think you can use MMC, but not without the addon.

Someone told me once that the IIi works best with a fast SD card like the Kingston Elite Pro. I changed to that and all my problems when away. TomTom5 stopped locking up as well.

Kingston SD Card
Are there any other users who have used the Kingston Elite Pro SD Card. I have been looking around for a while, and the Kingston Elite Pro 1 GB / 512 MB seem to be a single layered card.
I also wanted to confirm that when using a Sandisk SD card, I am having lockup's. If I take the card out of the slot, the XDA2i begins to respond again. Though I must admit I havent tested it exhaustively.

Kingston SD Card
Are there any other users who have used the Kingston Elite Pro SD Card. I have been looking around for a while, and the Kingston Elite Pro 1 GB / 512 MB seem to be a single layered card.
I also wanted to confirm that when using a Sandisk SD card, I am having lockup's. If I take the card out of the slot, the XDA2i begins to respond again. Though I must admit I havent tested it exhaustively.

Danny-B- said:
Only SD cards are supported by the XDA2i, although if you use the backpack addon i think you can use MMC, but not without the addon.
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You mean CF not MMC. SD and MMC both work in SD slots, but not vice versa.
CF type 2 is the slot on the VGA backpack.

SD Card issue
I understand all SD cards work.. I was trying to find the compatability of the same with Tomtom Navigator 5. I understand from the earlier posts that a multi layer card causes lockups. The transcend 80X card works fine. I was inclined towards buying a Kingston Elite Pro and hence the question...

SD Card issue
I have removed this message as it was posted twice by mistake

another Newbie,.,
hiya all. . i'm recieving my Xda 2i in about an hour.. just wondering which SD memory works best.. i read a few posts and quite frankly being quite confused,, was about to order a scandisk SD 1 gb card.. but i read somewhere ppl saying this is bad??
is that true?
thanks..

The Sandisk is not the best one. I have one and it causes lockups being a multilayer card. The transcend 80x works fine ( what i gather from different forums ). The Kingston Elite Pro also has some very good feedback. I am purchasing a 1 gb Kingston elite pro today. Sandisk is a no no... [/quote]

Thanks m8...
Kingston elite pro huh? like this one?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7550999880

zehave said:
Thanks m8...
Kingston elite pro huh? like this one?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7550999880
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I cannot browse Ebay at work so couldnt confirm. But you could find the card on this url:
http://www.epcbuyer.com/products.asp?recnumber=5761
Its around £44 on this site.
I tried to find a deal at ebay from home yesterday. They are around £39 and are being shipped from HongKong. I dont know when we will receive it. There could be excise + other charges. I am not sure.

hmm.. well on this guy whom is shipping from HK is selling it at 25 quid including shipping.. .trouble is i want it asap .. Heh... buying from him seems like 20 quid cheaper.. howeber have to wait for about 10 days or so.. . so he sez.. not to mention customs and duties.. ....
i just might shell out 44 quid then...

zehave said:
hmm.. well on this guy whom is shipping from HK is selling it at 25 quid including shipping.. .trouble is i want it asap .. Heh... buying from him seems like 20 quid cheaper.. howeber have to wait for about 10 days or so.. . so he sez.. not to mention customs and duties.. ....
i just might shell out 44 quid then...
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Well you also avoided the same trap... I almost fell into. Though it says £12 (Card) + £13 for postage, but you didnt have a look at the mandatory insurance which stands at £13. In all its around £38 + Other expenses. Not to mention the pain of getting it from hongkong...
Good decision at last...

MicroSDHC 16GB doesnt work on Breeze?

Hi!
today i've bought Sandisk MicroSDHC 16GB (class 2) and found that my HTC Breeze can not recognize it
MicroSDHC 8GB works fine.
Of course i've tested 16GB card on ASUS P750 and PC - both can recognize and work with it.
So, is anybody has success with MicroSDHC 16GB on Breeze?

sorg said:
Hi!
today i've bought Sandisk MicroSDHC 16GB (class 2) and found that my HTC Breeze can not recognize it
MicroSDHC 8GB works fine.
Of course i've tested 16GB card on ASUS P750 and PC - both can recognize and work with it.
So, is anybody has success with MicroSDHC 16GB on Breeze?
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8g card doesnt work on my breeze ! so , you know the answer

i guess, you are using WM5 stock ROM.
I'm using my own ROM with some additional fixes against loosing MicroSDHC card after wake up from sleep.
I think, all WM6/6.1 cooked ROMs can work with MicroSDHC 8GB.

really ? and could you like to share the softwards or drivers which can make our breeze work with 8g sdhc ?
i found some 8g sdhc softwares often lose after wake up from sleep !

stationalz said:
really ? and could you like to share the softwards or drivers which can make our breeze work with 8g sdhc ?
i found some 8g sdhc softwares often lose after wake up from sleep !
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+1
U know what？ my brezze even lose the 4g sdhc tf card, is it a device problem?

nope. it's 100% driver problem.

!!!! maximum stable card found till now is 2 Gb
some 4Gb work but appera problem
the driver is messed up and til htc will release an new driver i recomand using 2Gb cards (I dont think they will "ever" relase an new rom)
BR

jerpelea said:
!!!! maximum stable card found till now is 2 Gb
some 4Gb work but appera problem
the driver is messed up and til htc will release an new driver i recomand using 2Gb cards (I dont think they will "ever" relase an new rom)
BR
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this is to say our breeze couldnt use sdhc card, right ?

i've managed to fix SDHC loosing bug by rewriting some parts of SD Host and other drivers code.
Now, in 99.9% of cases card is visible. Couple times in last 2 months (since fix) card disappeared (fixed by cycling phone with sleep-wakeup) and i couldn't find the reason since it's extremely rare now.
I'm not ready to release fixed driver yet.
The fact that 16GB cards are invisible for Breeze is really frustrating me. And it looks like there is hardware incompatibility (seams, current drawing by card is too high). My card is Sandisk 16GB class 2. May be later, when class 4/6 will appear and technology of 16gb cards will be better, then requirements of current will be lowered and may be it will work.
I'm thinking to disassemble my breeze to do some electrical tests.

sorg said:
i've managed to fix SDHC loosing bug by rewriting some parts of SD Host and other drivers code.
Now, in 99.9% of cases card is visible. Couple times in last 2 months (since fix) card disappeared (fixed by cycling phone with sleep-wakeup) and i couldn't find the reason since it's extremely rare now.
I'm not ready to release fixed driver yet.
The fact that 16GB cards are invisible for Breeze is really frustrating me. And it looks like there is hardware incompatibility (seams, current drawing by card is too high). My card is Sandisk 16GB class 2. May be later, when class 4/6 will appear and technology of 16gb cards will be better, then requirements of current will be lowered and may be it will work.
I'm thinking to disassemble my breeze to do some electrical tests.
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why not share ? lets see is that work

*Good* Class 6 MicroSD cards

Hey guys,
I've been having a great deal of trouble with my cheap Transcend 8gb class 6 card . . . spontaneous unmounts, lots of finicky behavior all around. Having the apps on the SD means the phone crashes, and the app permissions get borked to hell.
I've heard these are not very good cards (you get what you pay for in this case) and are known to have problems with the G1 . . . or the G1 is known to have problems with them. Either way, perhaps some of you can help me:
-Are the Transcends indeed "problem cards?"
-Has anyone had one, gotten fed up with the crashing, replaced it, and is in good working order?
-If that's the case, what are some known good cards I can get to replace it?
Thanks!

they are not problematic, they are just not compatible enough! Every device has issues with every other sd card no matter what. I been buying sd cards and I have had problems with these since the day they were born.
In my opinion, transcend are one of the more compatible sd cards. Funny thing is I use a sandisk on my phone and I always had issues with sandisks before on other devices.

First things first, Transcend are by no means a 'cheap brand'. They actually make some of the more expensive memory cards you can buy, and they are very good. My memory card is a Transcend, an 8GB Class 6 like yours.
The difference is that my one has never failed me. It's actually very fast. Furthermore, Transcend are known for making good memory cards. Maybe you just got unlucky with your one.

I ordered the A-Data class 6 to replace my class 4 sandisk based off raving reviews. I havent read much for negative reviews on the A-Data lineup, even though they are a smaller company

I had a transcend 8gb class 6 card that failed completely (can't even access from a PC). When it failed, and due to my apps to sc and other changes, my phone wouldn't boot without a card. I had to install the 128 mb card once I got home and re-update from scratch. When the transcend card worked, it was fast. I've used other cards of theirs in my cameras for a while now, and they've been very good. But this failure caused a bit of a headache for me. I'm at the point where if I see any problems with my sd card, I'll simply replace it to avoid worse problems. Wouldn't have helped in this case as I saw no signs before hand. If it means much, I'd try another transcend card again.

Sorry, didn't mean to bash Transcend undeservedly. So maybe it's just an issue particular to their cards and the G1?

Thread moved to Dream Q&A, please post in the correct place; not dev related.

i went through 2 4gb class 6 adata cards that wouldn't work at all after i partitioned them. phone would bootloop regardless of rom. it worked great if i left all fat32....very strange.

orange that should be a good card. if you have any way to put it into your computer and try to format it, via a usb conector ect. then give that a go. other wise it could be the rom your on, what type of rom are you using or is it stock?

Don't base your purchase decision on the Class classification. Sandisk's Class 2 cards have known to have stellar performances under ATTO.
See this thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5170215

pr0cl1v1ty said:
orange that should be a good card. if you have any way to put it into your computer and try to format it, via a usb conector ect. then give that a go. other wise it could be the rom your on, what type of rom are you using or is it stock?
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Cyanogen Mod. Latest (4.2.12.2) but I've had this problem in previous versions. A friend's G1 has experienced similar problems with the same Transcend 8gb card, and I vaguely recall hearing warnings against using that brand w/ the G1, but perhaps I'm mistaken.
For now, I've deleted the EXT and swap partitions from the card and did a wipe so that all apps are running from internal memory. I haven't noticed any unmounts today, but last night the phone was unusable and this same sort of thing has happened before with the same card in both my original G1, and the warranty replacement (the warranty replacement was for an unrelated issue).

[Q] 32gb micro sd freezes phone once inserted

Its been a week since Ive been desperately searching with no luck!!!!!!!
I just baought a kingston 32gb class 6 micro sdhc but when ever i put it in my hd2 it just freezes up and as soon as I remove the card it works fine again.At first i though that it was a fake so I:
1)performed multiple tests,
2)reformated a 1000 times,
3)even putting 20gb of data just to make sure.
Turns out that it is authentic and it works perfectly on my girlfriend's htc BalckStone it also worked when I installed NAND (which i later removed due to insufficient memory).Ive been searching for weeks, I think its a windows mobile issue, any tips??

HD2 freezing with microsd
I have the exact same problem.
HD2 + 32Gb Kingston micro SD card (bought from ebay)
Freezes on card insertion. Unfreezes when card is removed.
Found any solution?

Do a google search for SD Formatter.
Try reformatting using that program.
Also, when you're reformatting, don't use the phone, use an external card reader or adapter.

andyffoo said:
I have the exact same problem.
HD2 + 32Gb Kingston micro SD card (bought from ebay)
Freezes on card insertion. Unfreezes when card is removed.
Found any solution?
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If you ahve bought a 32GB SD card from ebay there is a very high probability that you have bought a FAKE 32 gb card.
If it was cheap its 100% a fake card.
These fake card are actually 1/2/4/8/16GB card but have been modded to report 32GB, some of them you can use but data will get corrupted as soon as you get near the real capacity. Some will just not work from the offset.
Stick your card into your pc via reader/adapter and run it through a drive scanning software and see if its got any bad sectors you will soon know if its fake or not.

The same issue with my 16gb microsdhc. On my friends Samsung Galaxy S it works, on microsd carder it works. But not on my HD2.

I had scanned my microsd with few scanners all of them shown that my SD is in perfect condition.
What about formating? What program should I use? And what formating options should be(file system and etc.)

Wolf741 said:
I had scanned my microsd with few scanners all of them shown that my SD is in perfect condition.
What about formating? What program should I use? And what formating options should be(file system and etc.)
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Fat32, 32KB Cluster, Quick is fine usually but do a normal format to test your card

I red somewhere says that HD2 are compatible with 32GB SDHC class 2 only..

Same problem here…..
Is there any hot fix for the HTC HD2 to solve this problem?
The card is Kingston 32g class 4.

fransba said:
Same problem here…..
Is there any hot fix for the HTC HD2 to solve this problem?
The card is Kingston 32g class 4.
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My Kingston 32gb class 4 has been working great for the past 5 months....

Jamaloogy said:
I red somewhere says that HD2 are compatible with 32GB SDHC class 2 only..
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Not true at all.

fransba said:
Same problem here…..
Is there any hot fix for the HTC HD2 to solve this problem?
The card is Kingston 32g class 4.
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This is an issue that has yet to be solved, unfortunately I cant get any real answer even after searching for weeks. My only solution now is just to buy a 16gb and use the 32gb for some other occasion.

apallohadas said:
Not true at all.
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Oh, yes it is. At least mostly true, if not even absolutely true.
I've been using a class 2 32 GB Sandisk micro SDHC card for a year now on my HD, and it will go into my Leo as soon as I get it. Absolutely no problem at all, of course.
It's also the one to use on the HD7 to get the maximum available storage memory.
It was quite expensive when I bought it, but it never bothered me, neither did the Sandisk Compact Flash cards I'm using with my goo old Canon EOS 350D camera.
Some Kingston memory card seem to have compatibility issues with some devices (I'm thinking about EeePCs, too, as it's a very frequently reported problem), but it may be essentially related to higher speeds, as those cards drain too much current. The symptoms are exactly the same : the device will sometimes boot when mains powered, but will crash as soon as you disconnect the mains plug, and won't boot at all from battery power.
The HD2 (and HD7, as it's exactly the same hardware) is known for not loving too much current consuming memory cards, so you'd be wise to stick to class 2 only, as it's supposed to be what HTC recommends.
If you still want to use class 4 or 6 cards... Then don't complain if it doesn't work.

And no, it is not "absolutely true". While the HD2 may not r/w any faster no matter the card, any class will work just fine.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

What did you do to get it working then?

jeffro217 said:
What did you do to get it working then?
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Easy. I always first format my cards using a card adapter and a windows machine.
I know for a fact that class 6 microsdhc 32GBs work. It's what I have in my phone now. I also use a 32gb class 2.

I'm using a Kingston card. I've formatted, the computer sees a mass storage device with 30.2 gb available. However it locks the phone up in the boot sequence. Any Ideas?

jeffro217 said:
I'm using a Kingston card. I've formatted, the computer sees a mass storage device with 30.2 gb available. However it locks the phone up in the boot sequence. Any Ideas?
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What program did you use to format it?
One recommended app, outside of the built-in windows app, is SD Formatter:
http://www.sdcard.org/consumers/formatter_3/
(Link leads to the SD Association, of which I have no affiliation.)
If you have a card adapter, format it there instead of while inside the phone. Good luck

You suggestion is right.
Correctly formatting the card first generally solves most of the problems.
However, most high class micro SDHC cards will probably drain too much current from the phone. You have to find a really serious brand, and a really good one.

I've tried the posted formatting tool. Is there a setting or something I'm missing? After an hour of formatting, nothing, same problem.
I put the card in a 3 year old blackberry curve I had before the HD2, and no problem. I then put an 8gb class 6 card I had in that same blackberry into my HD2 and it worked fine.
I'm trying not to have to return this card because I don't want to wait another week and a half for back shipping etc.. Please give me some hope

[Q] Mysterious Issues with Patriot microSD card

I recently bought a Patriot 16GB Micro SDHC LX Class 10 card for my I9000 Galaxy S. The one problem I have had is that it does not recognize my card at all. I have done everything from FAT32 formatting to formatting as FAT32 without LBA. However, I do not believe that the microSD itself is faulty. My old Nokia E63 can read and write to this microSDHC perfectly well, even though the E63 officially only supports cards up to 8 GB. Windows can also read and write to the microSDHC card perfectly. Is there any known issues with Galaxy S and Class 10 cards? I thought Galaxy S can support any microSD card up to 32 GB. I have contacted Patriot to return the card but I'd rather get it working if possible. I am currently using an old 8 GB class 4 kingston microsdhc on the galaxy S and it works well. So, it seems that there is some incompatibility between the Galaxy S and specifically the Class 10 Patriot because they both work well independently.
1. Does anyone know why this happens?
2. I am now looking for another good microSD card, with at least 16GB. Is there any that is recommended and definitely known to work with Galaxy S?

icekin said:
2. I am now looking for another good microSD card, with at least 16GB. Is there any that is recommended and definitely known to work with Galaxy S?
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I used a class 4 Trancend 16GB and now I am using a class 10 Kingston 32GB without problem...

HI
Just a comment about Patriot Warranty be very patient it took me 2 months and lots of *****ing to get a replacement

I don't think so. I have the same Patriot SDHC 10 class 16GB on my Galaxy SCL (i9003) and they work perfectly fine with each other, apart from 3 damaged images from the gallery so far. Anyway, they it does recognise the card.

jimg1948 said:
HI
Just a comment about Patriot Warranty be very patient it took me 2 months and lots of *****ing to get a replacement
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You might be right, I filed a request last week and I am still waiting for them to contact me. Sad, because my Patriot USB Drive works great. Bad Customer service from Patriot.

I was initially wondering if it had something to do with the ROM I am using. I tried the card using Cyanogen 7.1.0-RC1 and now with Darky's EE 10.2 JVQ, but no luck. Plus, it doesn't make sense that the ROM would have something to do with this.

icekin said:
I was initially wondering if it had something to do with the ROM I am using. I tried the card using Cyanogen 7.1.0-RC1 and now with Darky's EE 10.2 JVQ, but no luck. Plus, it doesn't make sense that the ROM would have something to do with this.
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I got a 32 gig stage 4 micro sd card patriot and same thing I cant write to it. I can write it on the computer, on my s2 BUT NOT ON my S3 damit a few times I got it working then stopped.... dunno wtf... how can work on s2 not s3