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SD card issues

Has anyone else got issues with the use of SD cards in their Alpine derivitive?
Like the card not showing as being there when you try to write to it or explore the phone with file explorer or ActiveSync?
Perhaps videos on the card stop whilst watching them with a file error or the like?
Mine does with all 4 different makes of card I have tried and I am wondering if this is a common fault.

Yep its a very common fault.
I think everyone has the same experiences. (Me included)
what version ROMs do you have ?
there is an upgrade available if yours is the origonal, the upgrade will help a bit.
have a look here ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=25801
But read to the Third page as "Pug" psted a more up to date package

I am using Pug's Radio version 1.03 hybrid, but continue to suffer!
I have downloaded a SD Card benchmarking utility, my card is showing as 4.7x, but I don't know how that relates to manufacturers quoted speeds. It is either painfully slow or uses a different scale!

1GB SD from Transcend
Some ppl said the Transcend 512 SD works well on the 2i, just wonder if the 1 GB will work as good as the 512...
Any comment will be appreciated

Does anyone know where to get the 4 GB SD-Cards cheapest?
And what branches are there?
A-Data and Pretec i know, but are there more?

Re: 1GB SD from Transcend
bryan_suen said:
Some ppl said the Transcend 512 SD works well on the 2i, just wonder if the 1 GB will work as good as the 512...
Any comment will be appreciated
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I bought a Transcend 256mb 80X card an my XDA IIi has worked flawlessly since with no lock-ups what-so-ever.
I can't speak for the 1mb though!
This seems to be a power issue, the Transcend cards are very low voltage and ampage. My old SanDisk card would fail every time a network function took place, and they are high power drains.

I bought a OEM (white labelled) 1GB MMC and use it on my IIi. Everything is fine so far...
Is there any difference between MMC and SD in terms of IIi flaws?
:?:

Only SD cards are supported by the XDA2i, although if you use the backpack addon i think you can use MMC, but not without the addon.

Someone told me once that the IIi works best with a fast SD card like the Kingston Elite Pro. I changed to that and all my problems when away. TomTom5 stopped locking up as well.

Kingston SD Card
Are there any other users who have used the Kingston Elite Pro SD Card. I have been looking around for a while, and the Kingston Elite Pro 1 GB / 512 MB seem to be a single layered card.
I also wanted to confirm that when using a Sandisk SD card, I am having lockup's. If I take the card out of the slot, the XDA2i begins to respond again. Though I must admit I havent tested it exhaustively.

Kingston SD Card
Are there any other users who have used the Kingston Elite Pro SD Card. I have been looking around for a while, and the Kingston Elite Pro 1 GB / 512 MB seem to be a single layered card.
I also wanted to confirm that when using a Sandisk SD card, I am having lockup's. If I take the card out of the slot, the XDA2i begins to respond again. Though I must admit I havent tested it exhaustively.

Danny-B- said:
Only SD cards are supported by the XDA2i, although if you use the backpack addon i think you can use MMC, but not without the addon.
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You mean CF not MMC. SD and MMC both work in SD slots, but not vice versa.
CF type 2 is the slot on the VGA backpack.

SD Card issue
I understand all SD cards work.. I was trying to find the compatability of the same with Tomtom Navigator 5. I understand from the earlier posts that a multi layer card causes lockups. The transcend 80X card works fine. I was inclined towards buying a Kingston Elite Pro and hence the question...

SD Card issue
I have removed this message as it was posted twice by mistake

another Newbie,.,
hiya all. . i'm recieving my Xda 2i in about an hour.. just wondering which SD memory works best.. i read a few posts and quite frankly being quite confused,, was about to order a scandisk SD 1 gb card.. but i read somewhere ppl saying this is bad??
is that true?
thanks..

The Sandisk is not the best one. I have one and it causes lockups being a multilayer card. The transcend 80x works fine ( what i gather from different forums ). The Kingston Elite Pro also has some very good feedback. I am purchasing a 1 gb Kingston elite pro today. Sandisk is a no no... [/quote]

Thanks m8...
Kingston elite pro huh? like this one?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7550999880

zehave said:
Thanks m8...
Kingston elite pro huh? like this one?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7550999880
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I cannot browse Ebay at work so couldnt confirm. But you could find the card on this url:
http://www.epcbuyer.com/products.asp?recnumber=5761
Its around £44 on this site.
I tried to find a deal at ebay from home yesterday. They are around £39 and are being shipped from HongKong. I dont know when we will receive it. There could be excise + other charges. I am not sure.

hmm.. well on this guy whom is shipping from HK is selling it at 25 quid including shipping.. .trouble is i want it asap .. Heh... buying from him seems like 20 quid cheaper.. howeber have to wait for about 10 days or so.. . so he sez.. not to mention customs and duties.. ....
i just might shell out 44 quid then...

zehave said:
hmm.. well on this guy whom is shipping from HK is selling it at 25 quid including shipping.. .trouble is i want it asap .. Heh... buying from him seems like 20 quid cheaper.. howeber have to wait for about 10 days or so.. . so he sez.. not to mention customs and duties.. ....
i just might shell out 44 quid then...
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Well you also avoided the same trap... I almost fell into. Though it says £12 (Card) + £13 for postage, but you didnt have a look at the mandatory insurance which stands at £13. In all its around £38 + Other expenses. Not to mention the pain of getting it from hongkong...
Good decision at last...

microSDHC and TyTN II

Hi!
I understand that HTC Kaiser (TyTN II) support SD 2.0 standard, which allow it to use microSDHC memory card.
Yesterday, I have found a Kingston 4GB microSDHC memory card at one retailer shop, I want to buy it. So I asked the storekeeper for a test by inserting the 4GB card into TyTN II card slot. The result, TYTN II do not recognize or see the microSDHC card from Kingston at all.
I have read in other forum that TyTN II can use Sandisk or Toshiba microSDHC card up to 4GB without the need of any driver of anything.
So what's the problem? My Kaiser use released ROM (WM6) and it work fine with 2GB microSD, but why it do not work with microSDHC?
Can any friend explain why? and can you help me get my TyTN II to work with 4GM microsSDHC?
Thank for advaice
Regards
Sanchai T.
Bangkok, Thailand

I use Sandisk 6GB microSDHC without any problem at all.

gogol said:
I use Sandisk 6GB microSDHC without any problem at all.
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Same here. And I also have tested the 8GB. Also worked fine.

I own Kingston 4GB microSDHC, works like a charm The problm may be in the card or your device. First of all try inserting the card when device is switched on.

Don't forget, maybe it was a shonky card in the first place?

bishopau said:
Don't forget, maybe it was a shonky card in the first place?
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It may not have been properly pre-formatted either, sometimes the factory format isn't perfect.

I also use 4GB Sandisk card. The only problem is it get's stuck (U can't remove it just by giving it a little push after wich it's supposed to pop out).
In some other thread there is a discussion of this problem and someone recommended "going round the edges with a paper clip" wich I didn't understand. Can someone who has solved the issue give me more details about the solution?
All in all 4GB Sandisk card seems to larger than normal.

I was about to buy a 4gb Kingston Micro SDHC on the weekend, but held off because my Sandosk 2gb isnt even half full.
It was a class 4 which i presume is faster than my Sandisk 2gb.
Im curios to know what the Kaisers actual sustained transfer rates are with the SDHC cards.

Imo, Kaiser will not be able to use full speed of the card even if it was 0.5 class =)) Higher class card only works faster through card-reader, not in the device or through Card Export.
I've also noticed, that my kingston is hard to get back from the device, but i think it is the problem of the slot cover - it really s*cks.

PsychodelEKS said:
Imo, Kaiser will not be able to use full speed of the card even if it was 0.5 class =)) Higher class card only works faster through card-reader, not in the device or through Card Export.
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Is your Kingston a SDHC? And did you get a card reader with it?
When i had my HTC P3600i i found that whilst running TomTom6 off my microSD and selecting 6 types of POI it would hang as i beleived it would 'time out' as the data transfer rate was slower than allowed. This was using a Sandisk 1Gb MicroSD in a miniSD adaptor.
Hence why i am genuinely curious to know what is the actual sustained data transfer rate of the Tytn II.

Yes, it is microSDHC (I doubt you find microSD 4Gb large), cardreader was purchased separately. I'm almost sure, that inner kaiser controller will not be able to transfer data to main memory at rates close to the specified in the class description. Though, I also doubt, that you TomTom problem had anything in common with SD data transfer rate. I'm sure you were able to watch video from it (your card), and it is about 1500kbit/sec (HQ) - far more then needed to perform any searching operations. Practically, I've noticed, that copying files through cardreader is about 5 times faster than through CardExport and not sure this was device USB limitation.

After reformatting the 4GB Kingston micro SDHC card, it work OK!
Thank for advise! The shopkeeper thank me a lot, saying that if you don't tell me to format the card, I will never know!
Thank guys!

tsanchai said:
After reformatting the 4GB Kingston micro SDHC card, it work OK!
Thank for advise! The shopkeeper thank me a lot, saying that if you don't tell me to format the card, I will never know!
Thank guys!
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Does that Kingston card pop out with ease or do you have to force it out? I am about order a 4gig

gogol said:
I use Sandisk 6GB microSDHC without any problem at all.
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Me too, quite cheep from Play.com too

gogol said:
I use Sandisk 6GB microSDHC without any problem at all.
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Is there anybody have any try on microSDHC 8GB or larger ???

thaop00 said:
Is there anybody have any try on microSDHC 8GB or larger ???
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see the third post from this very thread

8GB Adata SDHC Card

I'm presently running Toflock WM6 and wanted to install the biggest possible SD card so I can put TT6 UK & Europe plus tons of other stuff without swapping cards.
I was advised in the Hima forum that there were SDHC patches which would enable SDHC. So based on this advice I just bought an Adata 8GB card.
I've tried several patches and nothing works, even the non-HC cards stop working and I have to re-install the Extrom prog to bring it back
So has anyone managed to get a class 6 SHDC card running yet ? If so with what rom etc.
Thanks

i am sorry to tell u this but SDHC is not possible on any Hima YET !!..i released 2 or maybe 3 Patches my self but none of them work...users cant even run 4GB and u bought 8GB..hope its refundable

Okay, I'll just have to keep an eye out for threads about SDHC updates.
In the meantime the Adata 8GB SDHC card will have to serve as a healthy sized flash drive to swap movies / mp3s with friends/family etc.
I've noticed 'non-SDHC' 4gb 50x speed cards on ebay. Has anyone got positive experience of slower speed 4GB cards like this??

ebod said:
I've noticed 'non-SDHC' 4gb 50x speed cards on ebay. Has anyone got positive experience of slower speed 4GB cards like this??
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Forget it.
Decent 4 GB SD cards from well known manufacturers cost approx. 20 €/$
There is no need for this cheap crap.
Sascha

I got one SD on 4 GB x150 speed and it works perfect on my himalaya

svenni said:
I got one SD on 4 GB x150 speed and it works perfect on my himalaya
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r u sure?
how? and what product?
billionton, adata or what??

Yes, i'm sure!
It's a Transcend card

I've got an A-Data 4-Gb, pink stiker (it says: myflash, 150x turbo SD 4gb Adata) and it's working well (sure not at 150x, maybe 1x ). To be fair, I have tryed several ones diferent sizes and the bigger they are slower they work, not only on the PDA but in the PC as well.

Have you testet read/write access to the whole 4gb? As far as I know, you can use these cards, but you have no access beyond 2gb.

4GB CARD
I am working with Transcend 4GB Card and the speed is great , No problem at all.

I also use a Transcend 4GB SD and it works great. You can access the full 4Gb. I watch many tv series in my himalaya with tcpmp.

As I said full access to the 4Gb card. I used to travel with my 100Gb 2,5 USB HD, some times I thinks it's a shame there is no app to get acess to it through a kind o USB cable, wuold you imagine?

[Q] 32gb micro sd freezes phone once inserted

Its been a week since Ive been desperately searching with no luck!!!!!!!
I just baought a kingston 32gb class 6 micro sdhc but when ever i put it in my hd2 it just freezes up and as soon as I remove the card it works fine again.At first i though that it was a fake so I:
1)performed multiple tests,
2)reformated a 1000 times,
3)even putting 20gb of data just to make sure.
Turns out that it is authentic and it works perfectly on my girlfriend's htc BalckStone it also worked when I installed NAND (which i later removed due to insufficient memory).Ive been searching for weeks, I think its a windows mobile issue, any tips??

HD2 freezing with microsd
I have the exact same problem.
HD2 + 32Gb Kingston micro SD card (bought from ebay)
Freezes on card insertion. Unfreezes when card is removed.
Found any solution?

Do a google search for SD Formatter.
Try reformatting using that program.
Also, when you're reformatting, don't use the phone, use an external card reader or adapter.

andyffoo said:
I have the exact same problem.
HD2 + 32Gb Kingston micro SD card (bought from ebay)
Freezes on card insertion. Unfreezes when card is removed.
Found any solution?
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If you ahve bought a 32GB SD card from ebay there is a very high probability that you have bought a FAKE 32 gb card.
If it was cheap its 100% a fake card.
These fake card are actually 1/2/4/8/16GB card but have been modded to report 32GB, some of them you can use but data will get corrupted as soon as you get near the real capacity. Some will just not work from the offset.
Stick your card into your pc via reader/adapter and run it through a drive scanning software and see if its got any bad sectors you will soon know if its fake or not.

The same issue with my 16gb microsdhc. On my friends Samsung Galaxy S it works, on microsd carder it works. But not on my HD2.

I had scanned my microsd with few scanners all of them shown that my SD is in perfect condition.
What about formating? What program should I use? And what formating options should be(file system and etc.)

Wolf741 said:
I had scanned my microsd with few scanners all of them shown that my SD is in perfect condition.
What about formating? What program should I use? And what formating options should be(file system and etc.)
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Fat32, 32KB Cluster, Quick is fine usually but do a normal format to test your card

I red somewhere says that HD2 are compatible with 32GB SDHC class 2 only..

Same problem here…..
Is there any hot fix for the HTC HD2 to solve this problem?
The card is Kingston 32g class 4.

fransba said:
Same problem here…..
Is there any hot fix for the HTC HD2 to solve this problem?
The card is Kingston 32g class 4.
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My Kingston 32gb class 4 has been working great for the past 5 months....

Jamaloogy said:
I red somewhere says that HD2 are compatible with 32GB SDHC class 2 only..
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Not true at all.

fransba said:
Same problem here…..
Is there any hot fix for the HTC HD2 to solve this problem?
The card is Kingston 32g class 4.
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This is an issue that has yet to be solved, unfortunately I cant get any real answer even after searching for weeks. My only solution now is just to buy a 16gb and use the 32gb for some other occasion.

apallohadas said:
Not true at all.
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Oh, yes it is. At least mostly true, if not even absolutely true.
I've been using a class 2 32 GB Sandisk micro SDHC card for a year now on my HD, and it will go into my Leo as soon as I get it. Absolutely no problem at all, of course.
It's also the one to use on the HD7 to get the maximum available storage memory.
It was quite expensive when I bought it, but it never bothered me, neither did the Sandisk Compact Flash cards I'm using with my goo old Canon EOS 350D camera.
Some Kingston memory card seem to have compatibility issues with some devices (I'm thinking about EeePCs, too, as it's a very frequently reported problem), but it may be essentially related to higher speeds, as those cards drain too much current. The symptoms are exactly the same : the device will sometimes boot when mains powered, but will crash as soon as you disconnect the mains plug, and won't boot at all from battery power.
The HD2 (and HD7, as it's exactly the same hardware) is known for not loving too much current consuming memory cards, so you'd be wise to stick to class 2 only, as it's supposed to be what HTC recommends.
If you still want to use class 4 or 6 cards... Then don't complain if it doesn't work.

And no, it is not "absolutely true". While the HD2 may not r/w any faster no matter the card, any class will work just fine.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

What did you do to get it working then?

jeffro217 said:
What did you do to get it working then?
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Easy. I always first format my cards using a card adapter and a windows machine.
I know for a fact that class 6 microsdhc 32GBs work. It's what I have in my phone now. I also use a 32gb class 2.

I'm using a Kingston card. I've formatted, the computer sees a mass storage device with 30.2 gb available. However it locks the phone up in the boot sequence. Any Ideas?

jeffro217 said:
I'm using a Kingston card. I've formatted, the computer sees a mass storage device with 30.2 gb available. However it locks the phone up in the boot sequence. Any Ideas?
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What program did you use to format it?
One recommended app, outside of the built-in windows app, is SD Formatter:
http://www.sdcard.org/consumers/formatter_3/
(Link leads to the SD Association, of which I have no affiliation.)
If you have a card adapter, format it there instead of while inside the phone. Good luck

You suggestion is right.
Correctly formatting the card first generally solves most of the problems.
However, most high class micro SDHC cards will probably drain too much current from the phone. You have to find a really serious brand, and a really good one.

I've tried the posted formatting tool. Is there a setting or something I'm missing? After an hour of formatting, nothing, same problem.
I put the card in a 3 year old blackberry curve I had before the HD2, and no problem. I then put an 8gb class 6 card I had in that same blackberry into my HD2 and it worked fine.
I'm trying not to have to return this card because I don't want to wait another week and a half for back shipping etc.. Please give me some hope

SDHC card problem

I have a problem with 16 GB SDHC cards. I'm using nFinityROM 1.15 and when I insert an SDHC card it works for a couple of hours and then it just says something like unrecognized file system. When I remove and reinsert the card it says “Damaged SD card”. I cannot format the card with the phone (nothing happens) and my computer does not even recognize it.
I have tried two different brands (not budget cards) and the result is the same, an ordinary SD card works though.
I figured it could have something to do with the rom so I unrooted the phone and bought a 4 GB SDHC card and it have now worked for two days.
Does anyone else experience the same problem?
Have anyone tried nFinityROM 1.15 with an SDHC card?
Have anyone tried any 2.2 or 2.x rom with an SDHC card?

Wrong post
this post not related to tattoo general should move to tattoo accessories

Gee, thanks, nice of you to at least answer the questions while you bother with posting
Sorry for posting in the wrong part of the forum, if I could move it I would.

A lot of us here have 8 GB, but don't know about 16 GB. That is 8 times the capacity of the HDD in my old laptop!

I have just switched from nFinity1.18 and had no problems with my 16gb card.
I have just flashed nFinityGB-0.5 and still have no issues. Either upgrade to Nfinity 1.18 or you could try formatting the SD card to see if it resolves the issue (don't forget to format FAT32 and back it up first.
hope this helps.

I have tested and noticed that memory cards that are class 4 speed/specification do not work on the phone, so you should check that out.

Do the cards still work on other devices? I had a similar problem where my HTC Tattoo (unrooted back then) kept permanently corrupting memory cards: it fried any card I inserted in like 2 weeks. I had to send it back to HTC and they replaced all the internals. If your problem sounds similar, I'd check your warranty and send it back to HTC so they can fix it for you. Don't forget to revert to the original (unrooted) RUU. Good luck!

This sometimes happens to me. I have a 4GB card. So I don't think this is a issue on the SD card.

Thanks for the answers
The SD cards became totaly fried, did not work at all. After reflashing to stock and the 4 GB card had worked for like 4 days I rooted and flashed nFinity 1.18 and the 4GB card have worked since. I will use it as long as it works, if it breaks then I will send the phone to HTC.
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I have tested and noticed that memory cards that are class 4 speed/specification do not work on the phone, so you should check that out.
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All SDHC cards I have tried is class 2 cards.

I'd the same issue with my 16GB cards so I switch to my 4GB and it had work for 6 month ( 2 weeks on nFinity Rom)
My 16 Gb cards works fine on my daughters Huawei phone :-(
Maybe try to buy a budget 16GB card class 2 card?
Or maybe 8GB card will work on Tattoo.
Need more space for music and Navigon

Zircop said:
Thanks for the answers
The SD cards became totaly fried, did not work at all. After reflashing to stock and the 4 GB card had worked for like 4 days I rooted and flashed nFinity 1.18 and the 4GB card have worked since. I will use it as long as it works, if it breaks then I will send the phone to HTC.
All SDHC cards I have tried is class 2 cards.
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Still working?
Because my girlfriends Tattoo killed 3 SD Cards (Class 2 8GB SanDisk). And the Tattoo from her brother killed SD Cards too. Only the stock (came with it) works. Buut it´s only 2GB Class 2.
Have no money to try more cards...
So would be nice to know, if it´s because of a wrong ROM...

The 4GB card (class 2) is still working like a charm
I have no idea why the cards get fried but I don't think the rom matters. My card has survived arcos roms, nFinityROM (Froyo) and nFinityGB (Gingerbread) and ofcourse the stock rom. My guess is that it has to do with the hardware but I don't know.
btw have you tried to return the cards to the store? I changed my cards when they got fried. They braged about "life time guaranty" so they hade no choice when I showed up with a fried card

dergago said:
Still working?
Because my girlfriends Tattoo killed 3 SD Cards (Class 2 8GB SanDisk). And the Tattoo from her brother killed SD Cards too. Only the stock (came with it) works. Buut it´s only 2GB Class 2.
Have no money to try more cards...
So would be nice to know, if it´s because of a wrong ROM...
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I simply can't use my original sdhc 8gb class2.
I'm now using a 1gb class 1, cuz the 8gb won't work for more than 2 hours.

yankhor said:
I simply can't use my original sdhc 8gb class2.
I'm now using a 1gb class 1, cuz the 8gb won't work for more than 2 hours.
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My 8GB Class 4 Kingston card has been working faithfully for the past 2 years without any trouble. I have used stock, HCDR, Pancake, SPQrom, nFinity and now CM7.

sunitknandi said:
My 8GB Class 4 Kingston card has been working faithfully for the past 2 years without any trouble. I have used stock, HCDR, Pancake, SPQrom, nFinity and now CM7.
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i'm using cm7 now with my 1gb.
I also created a goldcard with the 8gb but still got reading problems.
I'm gonna get a 8gb class 4+ next month. Not sure if it's the class that is causing trouble, but...

yankhor said:
i'm using cm7 now with my 1gb.
I also created a goldcard with the 8gb but still got reading problems.
I'm gonna get a 8gb class 4+ next month. Not sure if it's the class that is causing trouble, but...
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My goldcard never worked with my 8GB, it used to get corrupt. I found an old 512MB card from an older phone and made it a goldcard. It worked fine.
Then I formatted my 8GB and use it as a general purpose storage.
BTW, I format with GParted on Ubuntu and never have problems with read/write on phone.

But... what is the problem? Does the tattoo give problems with fast cards or slow cards?
And.. in your opinion, will a "patch" in the ROM fix this? i mean if the SD driver is rewritten including a limitation to the speed, will it work?
I have a 8GB SDHC card (i don't remember the class but i will test it with crystaldiskmark) that seldom works..