microSDHC and TyTN II - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hi!
I understand that HTC Kaiser (TyTN II) support SD 2.0 standard, which allow it to use microSDHC memory card.
Yesterday, I have found a Kingston 4GB microSDHC memory card at one retailer shop, I want to buy it. So I asked the storekeeper for a test by inserting the 4GB card into TyTN II card slot. The result, TYTN II do not recognize or see the microSDHC card from Kingston at all.
I have read in other forum that TyTN II can use Sandisk or Toshiba microSDHC card up to 4GB without the need of any driver of anything.
So what's the problem? My Kaiser use released ROM (WM6) and it work fine with 2GB microSD, but why it do not work with microSDHC?
Can any friend explain why? and can you help me get my TyTN II to work with 4GM microsSDHC?
Thank for advaice
Regards
Sanchai T.
Bangkok, Thailand

I use Sandisk 6GB microSDHC without any problem at all.

gogol said:
I use Sandisk 6GB microSDHC without any problem at all.
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Same here. And I also have tested the 8GB. Also worked fine.

I own Kingston 4GB microSDHC, works like a charm The problm may be in the card or your device. First of all try inserting the card when device is switched on.

Don't forget, maybe it was a shonky card in the first place?

bishopau said:
Don't forget, maybe it was a shonky card in the first place?
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It may not have been properly pre-formatted either, sometimes the factory format isn't perfect.

I also use 4GB Sandisk card. The only problem is it get's stuck (U can't remove it just by giving it a little push after wich it's supposed to pop out).
In some other thread there is a discussion of this problem and someone recommended "going round the edges with a paper clip" wich I didn't understand. Can someone who has solved the issue give me more details about the solution?
All in all 4GB Sandisk card seems to larger than normal.

I was about to buy a 4gb Kingston Micro SDHC on the weekend, but held off because my Sandosk 2gb isnt even half full.
It was a class 4 which i presume is faster than my Sandisk 2gb.
Im curios to know what the Kaisers actual sustained transfer rates are with the SDHC cards.

Imo, Kaiser will not be able to use full speed of the card even if it was 0.5 class =)) Higher class card only works faster through card-reader, not in the device or through Card Export.
I've also noticed, that my kingston is hard to get back from the device, but i think it is the problem of the slot cover - it really s*cks.

PsychodelEKS said:
Imo, Kaiser will not be able to use full speed of the card even if it was 0.5 class =)) Higher class card only works faster through card-reader, not in the device or through Card Export.
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Is your Kingston a SDHC? And did you get a card reader with it?
When i had my HTC P3600i i found that whilst running TomTom6 off my microSD and selecting 6 types of POI it would hang as i beleived it would 'time out' as the data transfer rate was slower than allowed. This was using a Sandisk 1Gb MicroSD in a miniSD adaptor.
Hence why i am genuinely curious to know what is the actual sustained data transfer rate of the Tytn II.

Yes, it is microSDHC (I doubt you find microSD 4Gb large), cardreader was purchased separately. I'm almost sure, that inner kaiser controller will not be able to transfer data to main memory at rates close to the specified in the class description. Though, I also doubt, that you TomTom problem had anything in common with SD data transfer rate. I'm sure you were able to watch video from it (your card), and it is about 1500kbit/sec (HQ) - far more then needed to perform any searching operations. Practically, I've noticed, that copying files through cardreader is about 5 times faster than through CardExport and not sure this was device USB limitation.

After reformatting the 4GB Kingston micro SDHC card, it work OK!
Thank for advise! The shopkeeper thank me a lot, saying that if you don't tell me to format the card, I will never know!
Thank guys!

tsanchai said:
After reformatting the 4GB Kingston micro SDHC card, it work OK!
Thank for advise! The shopkeeper thank me a lot, saying that if you don't tell me to format the card, I will never know!
Thank guys!
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Does that Kingston card pop out with ease or do you have to force it out? I am about order a 4gig

gogol said:
I use Sandisk 6GB microSDHC without any problem at all.
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Me too, quite cheep from Play.com too

gogol said:
I use Sandisk 6GB microSDHC without any problem at all.
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Is there anybody have any try on microSDHC 8GB or larger ???

thaop00 said:
Is there anybody have any try on microSDHC 8GB or larger ???
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see the third post from this very thread

Related

4GB MiniSD Topram

I just bought a topram 4GB MiniSD card and an adaptor for my XDAIIi but am my machine does not see it when I plug it in. Has any one upgraded to 4GB or have used topram or knows how to solve this problme please?
I'm using a MMC+ 4Go and a SD 15x 4Go both from Transcend and they work perfectly
thanks for the reply. Pls comment
I found this on ebay 300098174136. Many Transcend devices but I am not sure about 15X. I assume that 15X is the speed? dose it have to be 15X or can it be other? there are many 80X,120X, and 150X but not 15X! I appreciate if you have any advise. THX
mnazmi said:
I just bought a topram 4GB MiniSD card and an adaptor for my XDAIIi but am my machine does not see it when I plug it in. Has any one upgraded to 4GB or have used topram or knows how to solve this problme please?
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What a coincidence, I have the same card. Topram 4GB miniSD bought from Ebay. First one died in less than a week for some reason, wouldn't read at all on the PC or Phone, but they replaced it with no problem. The new one seems to be working ok. I did notice that the first time I put it in the computer to read using the adaptor it didnt recognize, but the phone did. So I started moving the MiniSD card a litte out of the adaptor it self so it is flush with the outside of the adaptor itself. Then it showed up. Maybe its the connects or terminals itself. Dont really know
Sorry, it was a typo error
The SD card is 150x not 15x
and the MMC is actually a MMC+
both are 4Go from Transcend
Keep in mind that these kind of cards are limited to 10 000 insertion/removal cycles, after that they are dead
Pls give a little more info.
daddy_yankee1980: did you actually used your card with an XDA? I have done all I could but my Topram will not work with the pocket pc.
BigDede: did you buy these two item on line? and if so do you have any links to them. I want to make sure I buy the right item this time.
Thanks...
mnazmi
I bought it in a shop in Paris, but it's a Transcend 150x 4Go SD card
You can buy it from anywhere and be sure it will work
cheers
a 2gb topram just seems to have died on me first day, it worked i reformated it to fat32 put in my pocketpc, but it did not see any card... put it back in comp there is no card either, played around for many hours trying to format or read or something... even trying low level format softare which im sure if it works... no luck at all
i thought maybe it was the format, but im doubting that now seeing how unreliable but yet cheap these cards are
SD RAM for XDA IIi. For information..
I bought a mini-sd ram 4GB Transam (with adaptor) which did not work in my XDAIIi.
I then bought this Transcend 4GB MMCplus Card (300098174136) form ebay at an increadibly cheap price and if works like a treat.
I'm glad it worked for you
Transcend is a very good brand

8GB Adata SDHC Card

I'm presently running Toflock WM6 and wanted to install the biggest possible SD card so I can put TT6 UK & Europe plus tons of other stuff without swapping cards.
I was advised in the Hima forum that there were SDHC patches which would enable SDHC. So based on this advice I just bought an Adata 8GB card.
I've tried several patches and nothing works, even the non-HC cards stop working and I have to re-install the Extrom prog to bring it back
So has anyone managed to get a class 6 SHDC card running yet ? If so with what rom etc.
Thanks
i am sorry to tell u this but SDHC is not possible on any Hima YET !!..i released 2 or maybe 3 Patches my self but none of them work...users cant even run 4GB and u bought 8GB..hope its refundable
Okay, I'll just have to keep an eye out for threads about SDHC updates.
In the meantime the Adata 8GB SDHC card will have to serve as a healthy sized flash drive to swap movies / mp3s with friends/family etc.
I've noticed 'non-SDHC' 4gb 50x speed cards on ebay. Has anyone got positive experience of slower speed 4GB cards like this??
ebod said:
I've noticed 'non-SDHC' 4gb 50x speed cards on ebay. Has anyone got positive experience of slower speed 4GB cards like this??
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Forget it.
Decent 4 GB SD cards from well known manufacturers cost approx. 20 €/$
There is no need for this cheap crap.
Sascha
I got one SD on 4 GB x150 speed and it works perfect on my himalaya
svenni said:
I got one SD on 4 GB x150 speed and it works perfect on my himalaya
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r u sure?
how? and what product?
billionton, adata or what??
Yes, i'm sure!
It's a Transcend card
I've got an A-Data 4-Gb, pink stiker (it says: myflash, 150x turbo SD 4gb Adata) and it's working well (sure not at 150x, maybe 1x ). To be fair, I have tryed several ones diferent sizes and the bigger they are slower they work, not only on the PDA but in the PC as well.
Have you testet read/write access to the whole 4gb? As far as I know, you can use these cards, but you have no access beyond 2gb.
4GB CARD
I am working with Transcend 4GB Card and the speed is great , No problem at all.
I also use a Transcend 4GB SD and it works great. You can access the full 4Gb. I watch many tv series in my himalaya with tcpmp.
As I said full access to the 4Gb card. I used to travel with my 100Gb 2,5 USB HD, some times I thinks it's a shame there is no app to get acess to it through a kind o USB cable, wuold you imagine?

Memory card advice wanted

Hi,
I've just received my TyTn II and am interested in getting a memory card for it.
It takes Micro SD but what is the max size that it/WM6 will work with?
Also, what is Micro SDHC? and can I use it?
I've seen a 2GB MicroSD card for £7.55 del. but I probably want a bigger card.
I intend using it for tomtom - photos - some games and apps and of course data file storage.
TIA
Bryan
I picked up a SanDisk 8GB via Amazon for under $70 USD (minus shipping).
http://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-Micro...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1204123335&sr=8-1
I have a San Disk 8gig in mine and it's great.
Cheers, Paul
Thanks for the quick replies,
As you are using 8GB cards they must be MicroSDHC? AFAIK MicroSD cards that hold 4GB or greater are all MicroSDHC.
Any chance you can pop your card and see?
The 8Gb SanDisk that I ordered is MicroSDHC (a.k.a. 2.0).
The HC stands for High Capacity and it is indeed for cards above 4 GB.
The device for the memory card has to be HC capable and lucky for us, our Kaiser is
Every micro sd card also has a class (2, 4 or 6 I believe). The higher the number, the better transfer rates (and response time), but also the bigger the cost.
I currently have a 6 GB (class 4) micro SD card. I'm going to wait a while to buy a new one until cards with about 16 GB or 32 GB (or something like that) of memory come around.
I'm also running the sandisk 8gb SDHC card. Its speedy and
works flawlessly. I got it on amazon for about 80 USD
The only thing i could recommend after having a card this big
is a good card exporting program on your phone so not
limited by activesync
Thanks for the help.
The 2GB MicroSD card at £7.55 seems very good value but I'll wait for an 8GB MicroSDHC deal to come along.
Hopefully a faster variant too..
Is it possible to connect the phone to a PC and have it recognised as a large memory stick? I know some phones do and then you can just explore them like a disc drive.
I will setup activesync at home for normal installation etc. but wondered if I could access the SD card whilst in phone from the PC/USB a la memory stick whilst at work.
yes, you can access the SD card like it's a memory stick by exploring. However, the transfer rate isn't as good as a USB connection with a stick. The 8GB SanDisk comes with a USB reader so that the card can actually be used in the reader just like a stick. Fastest transfer rate I've ever gotten with my phone
I'm using an 8Gb SanDisk MicroSDHC.
Works great!
I have a 8gb and it is fine.. but if you wait until next month you can pick up a 12gb and really have some storage space.
'im using a sandisk 6GB MicroSDHC for about 50canadian$
WebAgents said:
Thanks for the help.
The 2GB MicroSD card at £7.55 seems very good value but I'll wait for an 8GB MicroSDHC deal to come along.
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Talk about a deal i just purchased two 8gb for $70 because they were used and only came with one adapter.
I got my 8 gb sandisk sdhc card on ebay - another place to look for a great deal. Just be careful about the track record of the seller. I love the 8 gb card, but will be looking for a 16 gb card when they come out.
i saw the 16GB ones out anyone tried if it will work with the kaiser???
I run a Kingston 8GB SDHC in mine without problems (brought it over from my SDHC enabled Orbit), which I bought for £25 about 8 months ago from mobymemory. Never had any problems with it at all.

Which SD Card? Largest and Fastest?

I have searched the forum and there are many threads about cards that dont work or have problems. We should have a sticky where members of the forum can post cards that work well, the capacity and make.
For example I recently bought a PNY 2GB SD card which works fine and seems to have good data transfer speed but I read that some people have had success with cards up to 8GB? is this true.
arcnet said:
For example I recently bought a PNY 2GB SD card which works fine and seems to have good data transfer speed but I read that some people have had success with cards up to 8GB? is this true.
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*EDIT*
The BA can not read SHDC cards at this time (there isn't a driver available for the card reader, if it's even capable of doing so), so 4 gig is the limit.
jdc said:
Yes it's true.
If you have WM6 and the SHDC driver installed (just about any cooked WM6 and 6.1 ROM has it), the hermes can use an SDHC card without issues. The SDHC standard has a maximum size of 32 gig.
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At this point of time, there is no working solution for the 2s / BA to read SDHC
The largest in size and the fastest SD card to use is the Transcend 4GB 150x
mAzTT said:
At this point of time, there is no working solution for the 2s / BA to read SDHC
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For some reason, I was thinking of the hermes, not the BA when I originally posted this. It has been corrected.
mAzTT said:
The largest in size and the fastest SD card to use is the Transcend 4GB 150x
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TopRAM also make a 4 gig card that works. My only problems with the card are:
The case started to split after removing the card a few too many times. A bit of 'magic' tape took care of that.
Leaving it as one big file system made reading the card in the file explorer a bit on the slow side. I received better read/write speeds by partitioning the card into a pair of two gig 'cards'.

[Q] 32gb micro sd freezes phone once inserted

Its been a week since Ive been desperately searching with no luck!!!!!!!
I just baought a kingston 32gb class 6 micro sdhc but when ever i put it in my hd2 it just freezes up and as soon as I remove the card it works fine again.At first i though that it was a fake so I:
1)performed multiple tests,
2)reformated a 1000 times,
3)even putting 20gb of data just to make sure.
Turns out that it is authentic and it works perfectly on my girlfriend's htc BalckStone it also worked when I installed NAND (which i later removed due to insufficient memory).Ive been searching for weeks, I think its a windows mobile issue, any tips??
HD2 freezing with microsd
I have the exact same problem.
HD2 + 32Gb Kingston micro SD card (bought from ebay)
Freezes on card insertion. Unfreezes when card is removed.
Found any solution?
Do a google search for SD Formatter.
Try reformatting using that program.
Also, when you're reformatting, don't use the phone, use an external card reader or adapter.
andyffoo said:
I have the exact same problem.
HD2 + 32Gb Kingston micro SD card (bought from ebay)
Freezes on card insertion. Unfreezes when card is removed.
Found any solution?
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If you ahve bought a 32GB SD card from ebay there is a very high probability that you have bought a FAKE 32 gb card.
If it was cheap its 100% a fake card.
These fake card are actually 1/2/4/8/16GB card but have been modded to report 32GB, some of them you can use but data will get corrupted as soon as you get near the real capacity. Some will just not work from the offset.
Stick your card into your pc via reader/adapter and run it through a drive scanning software and see if its got any bad sectors you will soon know if its fake or not.
The same issue with my 16gb microsdhc. On my friends Samsung Galaxy S it works, on microsd carder it works. But not on my HD2.
I had scanned my microsd with few scanners all of them shown that my SD is in perfect condition.
What about formating? What program should I use? And what formating options should be(file system and etc.)
Wolf741 said:
I had scanned my microsd with few scanners all of them shown that my SD is in perfect condition.
What about formating? What program should I use? And what formating options should be(file system and etc.)
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Fat32, 32KB Cluster, Quick is fine usually but do a normal format to test your card
I red somewhere says that HD2 are compatible with 32GB SDHC class 2 only..
Same problem here…..
Is there any hot fix for the HTC HD2 to solve this problem?
The card is Kingston 32g class 4.
fransba said:
Same problem here…..
Is there any hot fix for the HTC HD2 to solve this problem?
The card is Kingston 32g class 4.
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My Kingston 32gb class 4 has been working great for the past 5 months....
Jamaloogy said:
I red somewhere says that HD2 are compatible with 32GB SDHC class 2 only..
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Not true at all.
fransba said:
Same problem here…..
Is there any hot fix for the HTC HD2 to solve this problem?
The card is Kingston 32g class 4.
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This is an issue that has yet to be solved, unfortunately I cant get any real answer even after searching for weeks. My only solution now is just to buy a 16gb and use the 32gb for some other occasion.
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Not true at all.
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Oh, yes it is. At least mostly true, if not even absolutely true.
I've been using a class 2 32 GB Sandisk micro SDHC card for a year now on my HD, and it will go into my Leo as soon as I get it. Absolutely no problem at all, of course.
It's also the one to use on the HD7 to get the maximum available storage memory.
It was quite expensive when I bought it, but it never bothered me, neither did the Sandisk Compact Flash cards I'm using with my goo old Canon EOS 350D camera.
Some Kingston memory card seem to have compatibility issues with some devices (I'm thinking about EeePCs, too, as it's a very frequently reported problem), but it may be essentially related to higher speeds, as those cards drain too much current. The symptoms are exactly the same : the device will sometimes boot when mains powered, but will crash as soon as you disconnect the mains plug, and won't boot at all from battery power.
The HD2 (and HD7, as it's exactly the same hardware) is known for not loving too much current consuming memory cards, so you'd be wise to stick to class 2 only, as it's supposed to be what HTC recommends.
If you still want to use class 4 or 6 cards... Then don't complain if it doesn't work.
And no, it is not "absolutely true". While the HD2 may not r/w any faster no matter the card, any class will work just fine.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
What did you do to get it working then?
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What did you do to get it working then?
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Easy. I always first format my cards using a card adapter and a windows machine.
I know for a fact that class 6 microsdhc 32GBs work. It's what I have in my phone now. I also use a 32gb class 2.
I'm using a Kingston card. I've formatted, the computer sees a mass storage device with 30.2 gb available. However it locks the phone up in the boot sequence. Any Ideas?
jeffro217 said:
I'm using a Kingston card. I've formatted, the computer sees a mass storage device with 30.2 gb available. However it locks the phone up in the boot sequence. Any Ideas?
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What program did you use to format it?
One recommended app, outside of the built-in windows app, is SD Formatter:
http://www.sdcard.org/consumers/formatter_3/
(Link leads to the SD Association, of which I have no affiliation.)
If you have a card adapter, format it there instead of while inside the phone. Good luck
You suggestion is right.
Correctly formatting the card first generally solves most of the problems.
However, most high class micro SDHC cards will probably drain too much current from the phone. You have to find a really serious brand, and a really good one.
I've tried the posted formatting tool. Is there a setting or something I'm missing? After an hour of formatting, nothing, same problem.
I put the card in a 3 year old blackberry curve I had before the HD2, and no problem. I then put an 8gb class 6 card I had in that same blackberry into my HD2 and it worked fine.
I'm trying not to have to return this card because I don't want to wait another week and a half for back shipping etc.. Please give me some hope

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