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9.2" touchscreen headrest monitor

Assuming the USB input for the touchscreen works with the Athena, this could be a nice in-car dash accessory. It would make GPS/map use really sweet, and phone dialing easier. $195.
Anyone want to test it?
http://www.digital4cheap.com/Shop/Control/Product/fp/SFV/31341/vpid/3917049/vpcsid/0/rid/124129

that would be pretty cool

I keep talking myself out of buying it. At $195 its almost cheap enough to get even if the touchscreen part didn't work with the Athena... but then I would talk myself into getting a mini-PC, and at that point I could have just bought a cheap laptop.

techntrek said:
Assuming the USB input for the touchscreen works with the Athena....
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as long as the usb output act's like a standard pc mouse it works. and thats where the problem starts the manual (see the grey box at right side at the bottom) says somthing from 'install the usb drivers first!' so i think there is no luck with these thing. elsewhise a cool idea as an addon in the car.
greet's mad

I figured it would come down to a driver issue for the touchscreen. Still an off-chance it might work out-of-the-box, or that the company offers a WM driver.

for me, i think that would be a bit expensive, i bought a car headrest monitor at Eonon.com, which just need $175USD!

Do you think will GTab have USB host?

You may not know how useful USB host is. You can use USB stick (up to 32GB), USB keyboard, USB mouse.
If it had USB host, I'd buy it for sure (wifi only).

Sadly NO...
On German Amazon its possible to pre order the device and the datasheed isnt saying something about USB Host
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/B1gfmv71YkS.pdf
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0041RSF6Y/
This one was my favorite (because of the Phone capability) until you asked this very good question
Maybe they got it rooted in future and then its possible? (depends also on hardware...)
Greetz Tokl

I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
I guess what gets hacked depends on what the hackers think is worth doing, and I can see that USB host would be an especailly awesome thing for the Tab so hopefully it will get some interest.
If its a game breaker, you may well be disappoited for a long while tho. This kind of hacking doesn't happen over night.

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I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
If its a game breaker, you may well be disappoited for a long while tho. This kind of hacking doesn't happen over night.
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This is SO true. I remember people trying for years to hack USB host mode in to Nokia's Linux Tablets: the N770 and such. I wonder: Did they ever manage to do it?

LostAlone said:
I'd guess that its not going to ever have the capability without hacking. I don't think any device has that at the moment.
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Please someone correct me if I'm wrong (as I don't have the device in question) but doesn't the Nokia N8/E7 support just that? I seem to remember a video demonstration of the N8 supporting an USB memory stick.
Also, the Tab will have a dock that has a keyboard, so it's not totally impossible for it to have USB host capabilities.

AnttiV said:
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong (as I don't have the device in question) but doesn't the Nokia N8/E7 support just that? I seem to remember a video demonstration of the N8 supporting an USB memory stick.
Also, the Tab will have a dock that has a keyboard, so it's not totally impossible for it to have USB host capabilities.
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I don't know about the N8, sadly I just don't have much interest in that part of the mobile space. However, some googling seems to indicate that it is possible (news articles say so) but I don't know if its naitive or needs hacking.
As for the keyboard and stuff, thats a good point. I can't see them using a non-usb standard for that, so it must just be the proprietary connector that makes the difference. In that case, all we should need is a Tab-USB connector, and a few drivers. That would really give the tab some muscle.
In general can mobile devices support the USB min-harddrives ? The ones that power from the port ? If thats possible then the tab will kick serious ass. 250 gigs in your pocket for cheaper than a microSD card.

I'm not really a fan of Nokia's products either, although they USED to make great products they haven't done so in awhile. And I *hate* Symbian. Anyways, at least the N8 DOES have some USB Host capabilities:
"Among the Nokia N8's neater tricks is its support for USB On-The-Go, which basically lets you connect USB peripherals (flash drives, for example) to the phone and have it act as a host..."
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/30/nokia-n8s-usb-on-the-go-support-demoed-lesser-phones-turned-in/
That was almost perfectly offtopic, sorry for that ^_^
Oh, or not, perhaps! Look what I JUST found:
"USB Standard port adapter
With this kit your Galaxy Tab becomes a standard USB port. With this USB port you can synchronize your digital camera or other devices."
http://www.oled-display.net/more-sa...s-bluetooth-pen-standard-usb-adapter-and-more

Well if they are going to officially make an adapter then maybe we are going to get USB Host... I can't see how you could transfer things off a digicam without the Tab hosting it as a drive.
Well... This looks pretty awesome then.

But they *CAN* cripple the functionality to just mass-storage devices or perhaps just cameras, like Apple did with their USB Camera connection kit, or whatever it was called.
Let's just hope that Samsung doesn't go that route.

Hopefully samsung aren't that stupid Although in theory we should be able to hack it back open anyway, and its a good start at least.

Sorry to resurrect this old thread, but I'm also wondering about usb host (or at least OTG) on the Tab (as I'm considering buying on to port Meego to).
Could someone who has the keyboard doc post the dmesg output once it's been plugged in please?
From some dmesg output I saw elsewhere (but not with the keyboard dock), it appears that the USB chipset is an OTG version, and seeing it act in host mode with the keyboard doc plugged in would be a nice confirmation.

I Would be interested to see the anser for this one.

Yes it is launched (mainly for photographers) i have seen it's price, very cool cheap at £10000 plus something!
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It's not the Fools Day yet, so keep your jokes at bay.

OK, I just ordered a keyboard dock and I'll have a look. I'll post a dmesg output and open it to see if the PCB is marked in any way.
According to the pinout (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9925838) there seems to be no other way for data to flow apart from USB.
So one of the following must (should) be true:
1. Samsung is reusing the pins for a proprietary protocol -probably reconfiguring the device by pulling up or down other pins.
2. The device is capable of host/OTG mode but it is probably unpowered and it probably needs a pin pull-up/pull-down to enable.
3. The keyboard is using unidentified pins, and the USB pins are used simply for the PC connection and power.
Does anyone know if the keyboard acts as a proper dock? i.e. when you connect it to the pc does it work at the same time as (say) KIES or drive mount?

Just a quick update, the keyboard was just shipped, and I should have it by Tuesday.
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Hi,
Just wondering whether you got any further with this?
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There was a problem with my order (the company didn't have any in stock) and the keyboard hasn't arrived yet. Still waiting!
I'll post the moment it arrives.
EDIT: Normally I would name and shame the company, but they are sending me a couple of freebies for their mistake so I'm happy

USB host
This is a good concept. I have an Archos 70 and a Galaxy tab. Archos has a micro usb port with which I connected my USB host adapter and the key board and mouse works . Flash drive and router dongle says more power required. So I am looking for a powered USB connector for this.
Unfortunately, Galaxy tab has different cable and I dont know if I can find a host cable for this. Any suggestion?

Worth a shot?
After reading this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9925838
I checked the G-Tab pinout :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDMI
and tried to ground pin 13 to put the tab in host mode last night... needless to say since I'm typing this on my computer... epic fail. However, I'm curious if anyone else has had any success with this.
I'm not too much of a fan of buying something to destroy... but if I have to disassemble a dock to get the pinout for monitor mode... suck!
Anyone have any advice as to what I jacked up here?

[Q] Possible to use Android phone's physical keyboard on an Android tablet via BT?

I would love to use my Samsung Intercept keyboard via bluetooth to connect to my tablet, rather than carrying around an extra device, i.e. mini bluetooth keyboard. Is this physically possible? Could a program be written to make something like that work?

Try BlueputDroid. It works for me to use my Backflip as a keyboard for my Nook color (though it is a little quirky for me).

acey_zero said:
Try BlueputDroid. It works for me to use my Backflip as a keyboard for my Nook color (though it is a little quirky for me).
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Unfortunately I never did find a way, sorry for the late response.
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[Q] Cat 5 connection? When no wifi

Probably a dumb question but can we connect the NC to a fixed line (Cat 5) internet connection. Sometimes no wifi but a wire connection is available.
Of course would need some type of USB to Cat 5 connector.
Does such a thing exist?

I don't know if you'll find what you're looking for, but i'm not ruling out the option.
Meantime, if you can access a cat5 line, and you're looking at buying hardware anyway, why not get a wireless access point?
(I am curious to see if you can do what you are asking, and I don't want this thread to die on the 'get an access point' cop out)

CAT5 Ethernet? Sure, wait until B&N redesign the NOOK and do expect another inch thicker, still want it?

I have a motorhome sitting beside my house and cannot get a wifi signal so I ran a cat5 cable out there to a cradelpoint wifi unit so I now have wifi through the coach.
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Assuming a driver is available in the kernel for the Ethernet chipset in question, you *might* be able to use something like the Wii USB-to-Ethernet adapter combined with a USB type converter. I've no idea at all what it will do to the normal network stack, but it's _theoretically_ possible.
Rodney

votinh said:
CAT5 Ethernet? Sure, wait until B&N redesign the NOOK and do expect another inch thicker, still want it?
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Actually not really, XJack.
But seriously though, ethernet on a tablet. Heh.

Defeats the purpose of a tablet. Becomes a slablet

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Defeats the purpose of a tablet. Becomes a slablet
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I just happened to see this. That is great!
FWIW, I've seen some no-name Android tablets that have a dongle which provides USB ports and an RJ45 jack for a wired ethernet connection.. Does kinda defeat the purpose of a tablet though..

scoob8000 said:
I just happened to see this. That is great!
FWIW, I've seen some no-name Android tablets that have a dongle which provides USB ports and an RJ45 jack for a wired ethernet connection.. Does kinda defeat the purpose of a tablet though..
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Not at all, it would be great to be able to use my Nook to configure Routers and program firmware, maybe even to use the Nook for some tethering. I would be able to finally get rid of my battery sucking, heat factory of a UMPC.
If anyone finds a way to get a usb Ethernet adapter working with the Nook please so share.

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Not at all, it would be great to be able to use my Nook to configure Routers and program firmware, maybe even to use the Nook for some tethering. I would be able to finally get rid of my battery sucking, heat factory of a UMPC.
If anyone finds a way to get a usb Ethernet adapter working with the Nook please so share.
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Didn't even think about it that way.
I know they got Ubuntu running on the NC (Not sure how well). Surely there is a wired usb nic that supports Ubuntu. I'm thinking that might be the best way.
I just bought my NC, should be here in a few days. I might just have to play with this..

What about Dalingrin's Nook Tweeks app? Using 'USB Settings > USB Host Mode' can we possibly attach a USB NIC?
I have not played with the USB Host Mode just yet, but I know I got excited when I saw it

Just wanted to link to [webcam support] USB Host support that YOU can try (now in nightlies)...some interesting discussion going on over there too....

Not too sure if I understood correctly your current setup, hopefully I won't recommend you something you have already done/thought about.
For the moment, a quick an easy way would be to plug a wireless router at the end of the network cable and then setup the wireless network. You could then connect to that wireless router with your nook.
Basically, it would look like this (inline text doesn't make a good illustration, but it's better than nothing)...
Router 1 ------(network cable)---------Router 2)))))))(wifi wave)))))))Nook
Sure you will need to setup the router correctly, but it's still very easy to do.

HP Touchpad Mouse and Keyboard Issue cant use both at same time

I decided to make this a separate thread apart from the general questions post mainly for anyone who has a similar issue, it will be much easier to follow and ask questions, as well as update it myself when I have more data.
So to begin, I wiped my Touchpad with TPtoolbox v.40, installed CM11 4.4.4 with standard gapps and philz recovery. Everything was working great and going smooth until I tried to use a USB Logitech G11 keyboard and a wireless G700 mouse with the dongle attached to the keyboard. The touchpad will recognize the first device installed to the OTG cable but nothing else I plug into it unless the first device is removed. Let me give some examples of things I have tried.
----OTG Y cable (1 male Micro USB, 1 Female Micro USB power input, 1 Female USB) powered by PC or AC Power supply----
-TP>OTG>Keyboard>Mouse dongle = Keyboard input only
-TP>OTG>Non powered USB hub>Keyboard + Mouse = input based on first device plugged in, if both are plugged in when I plug in the hub, they keyboard always loads first but the mouse does work when keyboard is removed.
-TP>OTG>Non powered USB hub> Keyboard + wireless mini keyboard/mouse combo (Rii i8) + USB flash drive = Everything works, I can type with both the USB keyboard and the mini keyboard with functional mini mouse pad as well as access USB storage. However, when I add any type of dedicated mouse, be it my G700 or wired usb G500, neither work unless I remove the other two input devices.
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Notes: The OTG cable itself works fine using several devices, whether it be flash drives, external hdd, keyboards including a Rii i8 wireless keyboard/mouse combo (touch pad feature works as a mouse with the keyboard, probably because its considered one device.) but I cannot get it to work with a dedicated mouse in conjunction with a keyboard. If I remove the keyboard, again the mouse works fine on its own. If I have the mouse plugged in first, the mouse will work fine but the keyboard will not.
Some of you might be asking, why use a dedicated mouse if I can get the mouse pad on my mini keyboard to work? Gaming
Why not use a Bluetooth keyboard? I do not wish to purchase one and I enjoy my current keyboard
Does anyone have any ideas or a solution? Its driving me insane and I really want it to work with what I have. I even tried making a DIY OTG cable, same results haha.
Update 1: I know this combination works on other devices including Galaxy S3/4/5, and a POS tablet (Envizien or some crap), it really is slow haha but perfect for web and youtube. I figured if this same setup works on all these devices, why not my Touchpad... and here I am lol. Both mouse and keyboard are HID devices so it shouldn't be a problem. I know it has something to do with the touchpad itself, be it a settings and software hack, or I simply need to try a few different roms. I know the touchpad is capable of it, I have seen videos of it being done with what I have. That is what leads me to believe it may be ROM/kernel related.
Update 2: while creating the thread: I wiped the TP again using TPtoolbox v.41 and installed Shumash's Pacman ROM 4.4.4 hoping it was ROM related. No luck. I have attached an image that the TP does indeed recognize the keyboard if I plug it in after the Mouse but I am unable to type anything. I have set the language and default layout to be sure it didn't need to be set, again with no change. I will try an older ROM next to see if it will help.
Thanks again, cheers!
Paul

Help please
Tried 6 ROMs total with no luck.
4.3.1: Evervolv
4.4.2: Evervolv
4.4.4: CM11, EOS AIO, and 2 Pac man builds
Same symptoms with each.
Is anyone here with an HP Touchpad currently able to simultaneously use a keyboard and Mouse, wired or wireless through OTG?
Quick update: while running EV 4.3.1, I tried to test it again while at work and when I plugged the Mouse dongle into the USB hub, the mouse showed up but then wouldn't let me move it. I ordered a different OTG and USB Y Cable to better replicate what someone else was using in a youtube video. I just cant see how it works on every other device but this one though.
I really have no idea what to try next so i'm at a standstill.

pahlbrandt said:
Tried 6 ROMs total with no luck.
4.3.1: Evervolv
4.4.2: Evervolv
4.4.4: CM11, EOS AIO, and 2 Pac man builds
Same symptoms with each.
Is anyone here with an HP Touchpad currently able to simultaneously use a keyboard and Mouse, wired or wireless through OTG?
I really have no idea what to try next so i'm at a standstill.
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Yep, just did it with my latest CM11 build. If it doesn't work for you, please provide kernel log (i.e. dmesg).

jcsullins said:
Yep, just did it with my latest CM11 build. If it doesn't work for you, please provide kernel log (i.e. dmesg).
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My work Pc allows me to do basically nothing but visit and post on XDA, is there a way to get the log file through the tp using terminal emulator or another means through the pc without ADB?
Thanks BTW.
Edit: was able to use Terminal Emulator and will email it to myself and upload soon. I hope its what you were looking for haha.

OK attached is the dmesg using last attempted ROM, ev_tenderloin 4.4.2
Kernel Version: 3.4.80-tenderlon+
[email protected] #1
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Yep, just did it with my latest CM11 build.
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I intend to go back to your CM11 build, as It seemed to be the smoothest and most reliable of those I tried so far. Im guessing when I do, the kernel will change so my attachment may be useless, i'm not sure. Can't do it here at work though, no Novacom for TPToolbox and the SD card partition is tiny if I were to try and do it using recovery.

New Log, no fix yet.
OK, I am back on cm-11-20141125-SNAPSHOT-jcsullins-tenderloin , attached is the kernel log.

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OK, I am back on cm-11-20141125-SNAPSHOT-jcsullins-tenderloin , attached is the kernel log.
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Did you plug in the keyboard and mouse before getting the log?
From that log, it doesn't look like you plugged in any OTG devices.

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Did you plug in the keyboard and mouse before getting the log?
From that log, it doesn't look like you plugged in any OTG devices.
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My apologies, I did not.
Added a second log:
dmesg = TP>OTG Ycable using PC usb power>Keyboard with mouse dongle plugged into the keyboard
dmesg2 = TP> OTG Y cable using AC power adapter> Unpowered USB hub> Keyboard and mouse dongle

Tried the new OTG and Y Cable seen in video that had it working. Didn't make a difference, I am guessing something is wrong with my Kernel like you mentioned. Find anything in my log that I can try and fix? @jcsullins
Thanks

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Tried the new OTG and Y Cable seen in video that had it working. Didn't make a difference, I am guessing something is wrong with my Kernel like you mentioned. Find anything in my log that I can try and fix? @jcsullins
Thanks
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I did not intend to suggest there was something wrong with the kernel.
I think the problem is you are trying to use an un-powered (or bus-powered) USB hub.
Use a (self)-powered USB hub instead.

jcsullins said:
I did not intend to suggest there was something wrong with the kernel.
I think the problem is you are trying to use an un-powered (or bus-powered) USB hub.
Use a (self)-powered USB hub instead.
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I misunderstood, my apologies. I will look around at buying a powered USB hub. Can't seem to find any less than $20 with decent reviews, that's in Bluetooth keyboard realm.. I will look at both options I suppose. Thanks again.
Edit: I was just thinking, I had the BUS powered USB hub working with several devices at once, including the wireless mini keyboard, usb keyboard, and a USB flash drive. Wouldn't that be an indication that an Externally powered USB hub is not required? I find it strange that I can get everything to work fine except when it comes to using both a mouse and keyboard at the same time.