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Many of other recent devices have been confirmed that 64GB SDXC card work on those devices if it's been formatted by the phone. If other phones can work with SDXC, I'm sure our Thrill will work too.
If you purchased a Sandisk 64GB MicroSDXC card, please confirm here that it works. Thanks
Part# SDSDQY-064G-A11A
http://shop.sandisk.com/store/sdisk...42400/CategoryID.57048000/productID.236010300
cproaudio said:
Many of other recent devices have been confirmed that 64GB SDXC card work on those devices if it's been formatted by the phone. If other phones can work with SDXC, I'm sure our Thrill will work too.
If you purchased a Sandisk 64GB MicroSDXC card, please confirm here that it works. Thanks
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If you can list these devices and point to where its said the 64GB is working I'll give it a go. I'll be getting a small sum to work on a idea I had and I might tack that sd on to the expenses.
review on SGSII
http://www.androidnz.net/2011/09/sandisk-64gb-micro-sdxc-cards-confirmed.html
64gb on SGSII
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038039
64GB on Sprint Epic 4G I think this guy used an adapter to get standard SD card into his phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290779
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16279672
Transformer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1278950
Sensation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1274789
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265745
Desire HD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1281585
Many of these users reported that the ExFat file system will not work with 64GB card. It has to be formatted to Fat32 by the phone. Once formatted, the card will work.
Also from Wikipedia
Other operating system kernels, such as Linux, make no distinction between SDHC and SDXC cards, as long as the card contains a compatible filesystem.
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Thats what I needed
I'll add that to my expenses and let you know in this thread once I get it. It may be a few weeks until I can get everything ordered though. Buts whats a few weeks if it saves ya $200?
The AndroidNZ review is mine (I was the third person to confirm they work, but the first to publicise it, always interested to hear which other devices they work in!).
Just a quick update: The SD will be on order next week.
oh wow, really 64GB? how much is enough? lol
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oh wow, really 64GB? how much is enough? lol
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Unlimited: Cpu, cores, channels, ram, etc. all with a thought sensitive keybord and UI projector crammed into the size of a cell battery. Then Ill be happy. It would also have to meet mil. specs. Of course if it didnt come in the most popular colours of the day and have 200000 apps I wont want it.
But until then Ill have to be happy running a laser keyboard/ pico
projector through this phone (custom rom) and connecting in the cloud to my fiances tribes supercomputer
That should make college fun.
Format it as exfat ut should allow over 4gb.
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Not sure if you read any of the posts I linked but in order for the SDXC to work with the Thrill, you have to format to FAT32 not ExFAT. ExFAT will not work. files over 4GB will not work.
ExFAT (tried with 8GB that is stock) is not compatible with the LG Thrill on 10K (European) Firmaware.
I tried the Windows selected default of 32kb and also "Default Allocation Size", both leave the OS complaining of damaged SD card.
(Can't wait for a Cyanagen Mod, I remember reading in the footnotes of the most recent release LG Thrill was on the list of upcoming; hopefully this will add EXT3 support.)
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ExFAT (tried with 8GB that is stock) is not compatible with the LG Thrill on 10K (European) Firmaware.
I tried the Windows selected default of 32kb and also "Default Allocation Size", both leave the OS complaining of damaged SD card.
(Can't wait for a Cyanagen Mod, I remember reading in the footnotes of the most recent release LG Thrill was on the list of upcoming; hopefully this will add EXT3 support.)
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This is true.
Confirmed working on stock (formatted it inning a backup and my friends thrill)
Does not work on v10k according my phone.
Sandisk tested.
Hated 2123: Im running v10k and have an 8gb and it formats just fine. It's formatted xfat
So you have a working 64GB Thrill?
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So you have a working 64GB Thrill?
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Sorry I posted that after being up for 24 hours.
Yes the sd works I tried it on 2 separate of thrills
What model number of card was tested?
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Yes, can we get that model number please?
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And is their Amway to not have to pay over 200 for it?
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http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=64+gb+micro+sd&gs_upl=1716l4414l0l4539l14l12l0l0l0l0l359l2153l0.2.6.1l9l0&um=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1280&bih=851&wrapid=tlif132399127966910&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=6000280246372562053&sa=X&ei=_IDqToT0NoqQiAKJpbSGBA&ved=0CHgQ8wIwAg#
Sorry EXTREMELY busy right now.
The phone doesn't have trouble recognizing the card seeing that it's twice the capacity to format from phone? could you format fat32 using windows?
Ive been checking my settings but could not find 16GB
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It's the amount of internal storage your device has, although some of it is allocated for the system partition and other things. It has roughly 10gb I believe for user data.
Let me check it again to verifie..
Could it be this: (see first post)
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16gb is partitioned as follows :
1gb - rom/system/data
2gb - user apps/data
11gb or so - usb mass storage
so there is your space
Have you you bought a hard drive? Sure I have a 3TB drive but after formating I'm lucky to have 2.7 TB left. The 16GB is just raw space once partitioned and formated you will never have 16GB. There are some loses in space depending upon what file system you use. All file systems have to have some space set aside for cacheing and system information.
Thanks I Understand now..
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I've one additional question.
What about system space ? It's a place where i can install apps ? Only 1.88 gb ?
Yes "only" 2GB for apps..
As far as I can tell, no phone ever had more than 2GB "except Galaxy Nexus" and most of them did not even reach that capacity..
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I've one additional question.
What about system space ? It's a place where i can install apps ? Only 1.88 gb ?
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2gb is the unformatted size, once formatted you will always lose some space
matius44 said:
Yes "only" 2GB for apps..
As far as I can tell, no phone ever had more than 2GB "except Galaxy Nexus" and most of them did not even reach that capacity..
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And besides, a lot of large apps like GPS navigation apps or games only store the main program in the apps partition and use another partition or even your external SD card to store data. With the majority of apps not even exceeding 10 or maybe 20MB you can install hundreds of apps.
LOL you are talking about a 16GB my brother got the LG P970 that phone says it has 2GB internal and he has about 1.1GB fir usage now that's a joke, nor being able to use music on the phone.
I do regret getting the 16GB maybe 32GB would have been better but who knows might get a 64GB MicroSD many say it works flawless might be worthy I think...
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REVERSiN said:
LOL you are talking about a 16GB my brother got the LG P970 that phone says it has 2GB internal and he has about 1.1GB fir usage now that's a joke, nor being able to use music on the phone.
I do regret getting the 16GB maybe 32GB would have been better but who knows might get a 64GB MicroSD many say it works flawless might be worthy I think...
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Well, you do need an operating system, don't you? When you buy a 64GB SSD and install Windows you're left with about 50GB or so as well.
bioweb said:
Well, you do need an operating system, don't you? When you buy a 64GB SSD and install Windows you're left with about 50GB or so as well.
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I dont complain its a great phone,the issue is that I made a nistake myself by picking the 16GB I should have waitted fir the buyer till he gets them he said a week but it took him about three to get the 16GB
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Hi, I am debating on which microSD card I should purchase for the Xperia Z1. These are the two products I am looking at currently:
Sandisk Extreme PLUS microSDXC UHS-I (SDSDQX-064G) (Red/Gold)
Capacity: 64GB
Read Speed: Up to 80MB/s
Write Speed: Up to 50MB/s
$70.54CAD (Regular: $199.99CAD)
SanDisk Ultra microSDXC UHS-I (SDSDQX-064G) (Red/Grey)
Capacity: 64GB
Read Speed: N/A
Write Speed: N/A
Transfer Speed: Up to 30MB/s
$59.99CAD (Regular: $69.99CAD)
I would prefer the higher performance card but I am not sure if the Xperia Z1 can benefit with that extra speed.
I am planning to use the microSD card for storing 1080p movies, flac and apps.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
Thank you very much
With the Sandisk I had bad experience, I use Samsung Ultra-Pro 64GB SDXC, Write Speed 20mb/s Read Speed 70mb/s and I got no problem at all, is damn fast. And chipper than Sandisk. I will recommended also A-Data, very good, but hard to find. Anyway in any case you will not see the difference.
eclyptos said:
With the Sandisk I had bad experience, I use Samsung Ultra-Pro 64GB SDXC, Write Speed 20mb/s Read Speed 70mb/s and I got no problem at all, is damn fast. And chipper than Sandisk. I will recommended also A-Data, very good, but hard to find. Anyway in any case you will not see the difference.
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Thanks for the quick reply, eclyptos
What kind of bad experience are you referring to?
See, in terms of write speed and read speed, I have heard that smartphones cannot benefit from anything above 30MB/s, I have not been able to find solid proof however. I will be playing a lot of large mkv videos, so I am hoping there wwill not be any stutter.
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What kind of bad experience are you referring to?
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Losing data or corrupted, and after few weeks the sd stopped working and I had to replace the sd. The second one was working good but the access to the card was laggy, so I sell the SD. Was a year ago and maybe, I said Maybe, the newest sandisk are better but I got 3 Samsung and they working like a sharm.
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See, in terms of write speed and read speed, I have heard that smartphones cannot benefit from anything above 30MB/s, I have not been able to find solid proof however. I will be playing a lot of large mkv videos, so I am hoping there will not be any stutter.
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All new smartphones are implemented to working with SDXC so faster the SD will be, it will just guarantee the best work. There is not any proof but the hardware are made to support all the new technology so probably they have higher bandwidth.
Ultra speeds are not that great, my class 8GB class 4 is almost as fast as the ultra in this phone. My old 16GB class 10 is faster than the ultra (was more expensive also when it was purcahsed) You get what you pay for I think.
I have a 8GB Sandisk card class 4, 16GB class 10 Sandisk card, then the 32GB ultra card (now sold) 64GB Extreme due to arrive.
I have a sandisk extreme that should arrive today or tomorrow, will post to advise.
The reason I purchased the extreme was that another user posted 40MB/s write using this card in the Sony Z1, I will confirm later.
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eclyptos said:
All new smartphones are implemented to working with SDXC so faster the SD will be, it will just guarantee the best work. There is not any proof but the hardware are made to support all the new technology so probably they have higher bandwidth.
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SDXC is not the issue, it is more that we need android to support UHS Speed Class 1 until then we will be constrained to get the full performance out of the memory cards
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SDXC is not the issue, it is more that we need android to support UHS Speed Class 1 until then we will be constrained to get the full performance out of the memory cards
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Who said the SDXC is the issue here, the cards was faulty. Also I was saying about hardware, software is good enough. You can buy best card ever and will be no difference on smartphone to see with your eyes. I did a bandwidth test with SCSI app and what I paid I get. Do you think we need write speed 40mb/s for smartphones, Where?
We need read speed, so any app or vid will not be stutter or laggy. You spending money for a card with highest writing speed just for nothing. This is my advice.
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Who said the SDXC is the issue here, the cards was faulty. Also I was saying about hardware, software is good enough. You can buy best card ever and will be no difference on smartphone to see with your eyes. I did a bandwidth test with SCSI app and what I paid I get. Do you think we need write speed 40mb/s for smartphones, Where?
We need read speed, so any app or vid will not be stutter or laggy. You spending money for a card with highest writing speed just for nothing. This is my advice.
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You said SDXC is faster, when it is not, read what I was quoting from you I was just highlighting the performance issues is if the hardware can support the new UHS-1 format to get full speed.
potentially 4k video, raw camera recording, and uploading large files to the phone, just a few from the top of my head.
danw_oz said:
You said SDXC is faster, when it is not, read what I was quoting from you
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Format SDXC in FAT32 and test the speeds, the SDXC is faster because of his exFAT system is more efficient. All new devices support now exFAT which is faster than FAT32. I had SDXC 64GB on my old device which was not supporting SDXC and with FAT32 was, sorry, is working fine, but slower. I did my tests.
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danw_oz said:
I was just highlighting the performance issues is if the hardware can support the new UHS-1 format to get full speed.
potentially 4k video, raw camera recording, and uploading large files to the phone, just a few from the top of my head.
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Look, I said this in another thread, the 4K is useless so high writing speed either. When we will see on the market 128Gb of microSD we will talk about this seriously. Now is just a wast of time. Z1 was never meant to record 4K even if it can with some tricks but he still support UHS-1 format.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540964
reventon_703 said:
Hi, I am debating on which microSD card I should purchase for the Xperia Z1. These are the two products I am looking at currently:
Sandisk Extreme PLUS microSDXC UHS-I (SDSDQX-064G) (Red/Gold)
Capacity: 64GB
Read Speed: Up to 80MB/s
Write Speed: Up to 50MB/s
$70.54CAD (Regular: $199.99CAD)
SanDisk Ultra microSDXC UHS-I (SDSDQX-064G) (Red/Grey)
Capacity: 64GB
Read Speed: N/A
Write Speed: N/A
Transfer Speed: Up to 30MB/s
$59.99CAD (Regular: $69.99CAD)
I would prefer the higher performance card but I am not sure if the Xperia Z1 can benefit with that extra speed.
I am planning to use the microSD card for storing 1080p movies, flac and apps.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
Thank you very much
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Don't touch the ultra if you are after performance and future proof yourself.
see attached, brand new 64GB Sandisk Extreme.
You can clearly see here the bottle neck with the phone, almost everything at least twice as fast with my USB3 UDMA card reader vs the phone interface from the computer
Sandisk Ultra in phone best 40MB/s average around 30MB/s read but around 10-12MB/s write.
eclyptos said:
With the Sandisk I had bad experience, I use Samsung Ultra-Pro 64GB SDXC, Write Speed 20mb/s Read Speed 70mb/s and I got no problem at all, is damn fast. And chipper than Sandisk. I will recommended also A-Data, very good, but hard to find. Anyway in any case you will not see the difference.
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I'm using the Samsung Pro 64gb SDXC UHS-1 as well. This card is very fast and good price as well. I bought it on Ebay for about 65 AUD. I've tested on the GS4 & my XZ1 as well the speed is awesome... But you should be aware of fake cards goin' on at Ebay. It is very important where the card is coming from. The other day I bought another card for my brother in law, on the package it said made in Korea, but on the card itself made in Taiwan was printed on and guess what... The speed ain't the same!!!
Before you buy the card, ask the seller specifically if; "made in Korea" is printed on the card itself.
I tested with a few sd tester here are the results:
Made in Korea W 18mb/ R 42mb
Made in Taiwan W 9mb/ R 16mb
I've uploaded 2 pictures the one on top is FAKE from Taiwan!!! So now I've to return it to the seller and ask for a refund...
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But you should be aware of fake cards goin' on at Ebay..
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I am aware of that very well don't worry. Fake SDs are newer made to have the full storage capacity. If you buy from eBay the first thing you have to do is test the card with "h2testw".
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danw_oz said:
Don't touch the ultra if you are after performance and future proof yourself.
see attached, brand new 64GB Sandisk Extreme.
You can clearly see here the bottle neck with the phone, almost everything at least twice as fast with my USB3 UDMA card reader vs the phone interface from the computer
Sandisk Ultra in phone best 40MB/s average around 30MB/s read but around 10-12MB/s write.
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I see, to get that scores with Extreme Sandisk and reach 90mb/s you have to have USB 3.0 on your computer and any device to test the card have to be implemented with USB 3.0 if not all your test will stack al 35mb/s in reading and writing.
Anyway that Sandisk Extreme is very impressive but I told you, the Android and the hardware on Z1 support that kind of card but they are not made to reach that speed. What for? You will still not have problems what so ever.
PS: which kind of Benchmark App did you use to test the card, I want try with mine and post some results.
I'm using Sandisk Ultra 64GB, no issues and works nice, I use it to store some music, video and save my pictures / recordings.
So we are stack on 42mb/s for external memory bandwidth. That's ok. If you see we have 70mb/s in internal memory. Wath we can do? Nothing, we have to keep Z1 like that. It was meant to be.
Same here corrupted sd card experience using sandisk...
Now Im using transcend for 6 months, very reliable, no problem at all.
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I am aware of that very well don't worry. Fake SDs are newer made to have the full storage capacity. If you buy from eBay the first thing you have to do is test the card with "h2testw".
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I see, to get that scores with Extreme Sandisk and reach 90mb/s you have to have USB 3.0 on your computer and any device to test the card have to be implemented with USB 3.0 if not all your test will stack al 35mb/s in reading and writing.
Anyway that Sandisk Extreme is very impressive but I told you, the Android and the hardware on Z1 support that kind of card but they are not made to reach that speed. What for? You will still not have problems what so ever.
PS: which kind of Benchmark App did you use to test the card, I want try with mine and post some results.
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I always knew that I would not get full speed out of the card due to the android interface, this has been my biggest annoyance for a long time, but three times the speed in phone to copy movies, mp3s, flac... will definately give me benefit, titanium backup now flies.
I labelled most of the files so if you look down the bottom you will see what picture is what.
Which bench mark?
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marc_ecko28 said:
Same here corrupted sd card experience using sandisk...
Now Im using transcend for 6 months, very reliable, no problem at all.
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Unlucky, I have been using Sandisk for a long time, never had any problems. All of mine were 100% genuine, that could also be part of the difference as there are so many knock offs out there.
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So we are stack on 42mb/s for external memory bandwidth. That's ok. If you see we have 70mb/s in internal memory. Wath we can do? Nothing, we have to keep Z1 like that. It was meant to be.
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What card do you have?
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CalvinLove said:
I'm using the Samsung Pro 64gb SDXC UHS-1 as well. This card is very fast and good price as well. I bought it on Ebay for about 65 AUD. I've tested on the GS4 & my XZ1 as well the speed is awesome... But you should be aware of fake cards goin' on at Ebay. It is very important where the card is coming from. The other day I bought another card for my brother in law, on the package it said made in Korea, but on the card itself made in Taiwan was printed on and guess what... The speed ain't the same!!!
Before you buy the card, ask the seller specifically if; "made in Korea" is printed on the card itself.
I tested with a few sd tester here are the results:
Made in Korea W 18mb/ R 42mb
Made in Taiwan W 9mb/ R 16mb
I've uploaded 2 pictures the one on top is FAKE from Taiwan!!! So now I've to return it to the seller and ask for a refund...
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Fake for sure, no doubt has all the signs
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Which bench mark?
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I was referring of which apps did you use to test the cards, but I figure out anyway, my attached pictures are from same apps as yours in the last post.
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Unlucky, I have been using Sandisk for a long time, never had any problems. All of mine were 100% genuine, that could also be part of the difference as there are so many knock offs out there.
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Not really, when was the first time of the release of Sandisk SDXC 64GB Ultra many had this problem, the cards was faulty. I remember well, was all over the internet.
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What card do you have?
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Samsung SDXC 64GB Ultra-Pro UHS-1. Speeds 70mb/s in reading, 20mb/s in writing
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I always knew that I would not get full speed out of the card due to the android interface..
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PS: Is not a problem of the OS, if you se Internal memory reach 70mb/s with Android, is the limit of Z1 Hardware for external Sd cards.
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Been using this one for quite some time and it's been superb, never had to reformat due to it being glitchy or corrupting anything.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-SDS...&qid=1386197288&sr=8-1&keywords=64gb+micro+sd
Had it since the S3 and was actually used as the internal memory as i switched the memories around, it was then used in the Asus Prime and then the Galaxy Camera and finally it's now in my Z1 and i'm using folder mount (which is excellent by the way) formatted into Fat32, 4096 byte allocation size i think.
It's been like a marine for me, but i have heard of people having problems, just not in my case.
PS: Saying all that it'll probably die on me now
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I was referring of which apps did you use to test the cards, but I figure out anyway, my attached pictures are from same apps as yours in the last post.
Not really, when was the first time of the release of Sandisk SDXC 64GB Ultra many had this problem, the cards was faulty. I remember well, was all over the internet.
Samsung SDXC 64GB Ultra-Pro UHS-1. Speeds 70mb/s in reading, 20mb/s in writing
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PS: Is not a problem of the OS, if you se Internal memory reach 70mb/s with Android, is the limit of Z1 Hardware for external Sd cards.
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It was a pc based tester atto benchmark.
The method in which the OS is accessing the micro sd cards, not compliant to UHS-1 as well as the bridge between the USB interface
Yeah I was also looking at the Samsung chips, they were looking quite good, the sandisk for me was on special and ended up a very similar price
That why I was telling to do not spend money for super pro ultra extreme ultimate Sd cards, is not needed. But if the price is low probably is worth to buy.
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That why I was telling to do not spend money for super pro ultra extreme ultimate Sd cards, is not needed. But if the price is low probably is worth to buy.
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I get twice the write speed as you, so if I am transferring 40GB of mp3's up you will be waiting quite a bit longer than me, I think my $30 extra cost out ways my waiting times
Do we know when the 128GB or if Samsung would grace the rest of the world; the 256GB option? Im surprised that no outlet has records for the 128GB or is it coming after launch since I only see 64GB versions available for preorder 'globally'.
I've been trying to find a 128gb version as well.... But no luck.
So right now im holding out ordering and waiting to see if the 128gb is releasing soon some where in the world.
North America never gets anything but the lower option - 64gb. Which is enough for now especially adding in the 256gb micro SD. That being said, I personally would love to have 128gb option and would pay $100 more for the extra storage. Just like I would also pay $100 for a BL unlocked (Dev version) of the Note 8. Don't think they have offered a Dev version of the Note since the Note 4, of which I bought the Dev version of that phone.
The versions with more storage, more ram, etc are usually very rare and only release in the asian markets. Not sure why they do that as there would be buyers elsewhere in the world. Head scratching.
Yeah Im in the USA however I couldnt care less where the device is coming from.. I preordered a 64x from clove.. but like you wanted the 128 at least (which is in my s6e...) so im taken aback how the internal storage options are still paltry. Yes the card.. but its not UFS2.1 speed so i dunno what gives.
sidenote, the note 8 has a ufs card reader which is up to 3x faster than usdxc.. slight mitigation.. if you can find cards.
I doubt a 128 much less a 256 version will appear—it's a classic Samsung tune, with every model since Note 2 they've been promising a “Luxury” of whatever version of the same model, always with double the storage.
I've waited for a couple of those before—they've never materialized…
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sidenote, the note 8 has a ufs card reader which is up to 3x faster than usdxc.. slight mitigation.. if you can find cards.
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I am sure if they exist they would be very expensive
not a peep about then since last summer either, so it's surprising to find that they've included the reader.. some expectation then of release. but.. bixby, so who really knows.
teegunn said:
North America never gets anything but the lower option - 64gb. Which is enough for now especially adding in the 256gb micro SD. That being said, I personally would love to have 128gb option and would pay $100 more for the extra storage. Just like I would also pay $100 for a BL unlocked (Dev version) of the Note 8. Don't think they have offered a Dev version of the Note since the Note 4, of which I bought the Dev version of that phone.
The versions with more storage, more ram, etc are usually very rare and only release in the asian markets. Not sure why they do that as there would be buyers elsewhere in the world. Head scratching.
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Just buy exynos if you want an unlocked bootloader .
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Only in korea.
Better buy SD Card a fast one that has fast reading speed sandiak 200 gb or samsung evo 128 gb.
With 200 gb sd card (180 gb actual space) + 64 gb storage (52 gb actual space) =
232 GB Of total storage.
Which is just as much as 256 gb samsung phone.
Cause 256 gb samsung phones have 235 storage due to software.
Cool Person said:
Only in North korea.
Better buy SD Card a fast one that has fast reading speed sandiak 200 gb or samsung evo 128 gb.
With 200 gb sd card + 64 gb storage =
232 GB Of total storage.
Which is just as much as 256 gb samsung phone.
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Lexar 1800x 128gb is the fastest ive ever seen by a country mile..
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force70 said:
Lexar 1800x 128gb is the fastest ive ever seen by a country mile..
sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6
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I heard bad things about lexar despite its read and write speed being really high. I heard it gets corrupted easily for some customers no thing solid thought...
But who knows..
I still have the evo 256gb that I got free with the note 7. Works like a champ. I also tried to find this ufs card but no luck.
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Cool Person said:
I heard bad things about lexar despite its read and write speed being really high. I heard it gets corrupted easily for some customers no thing solid thought...
But who knows..
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Ive had mine for a year and zero issues
You can get it here
http://www.ebayshopkorea.com/main/view?itemID=332346076771
$1370, that's a little steep, $440 more than standard version.
force70 said:
Ive had mine for a year and zero issues
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I am buying 256 gb one then hope it doesnot run out.
Its price is really low and its fast sd card.
Apparently a 128gb version is expected to be launched in India. But i haven't been able to confirm that....
Tho a lot of sites selling phones with india as target audience is listing the 128gb version
In mexico the major carrier telcel only offers the 128 gb option
As the title suggests, I'm wondering if real world performance will be impacted by the RAM difference. I don't need the storage (512gb... Wow!) because I have a huge micro SD card anyway. But is it worth the price to upgrade the ram RAM? I'm thinking probably not. What do you all think?
yes, i would like to know how they will performs too.
i am hesitating to paid almost 300 bucks for extra 2g of rams if the performances are not significant.
(but i know, i am gonna end up buying that anyway, god, my OCD).
sorry, if i may, i like to add a question since this is about the Rams thread.
if i pick the phone with native 512g. storage, that is the one guarantee to have 8g of rams?
ordering from the samsung USA.
because the site have no indication or information of what model has what ram, anyone can tell me does the USA version with 512g is the 8g ram?
OutCastedSheep said:
yes, i would like to know how they will performs too.
i am hesitating to paid almost 300 bucks for extra 2g of rams if the performances are not significant.
(but i know, i am gonna end up buying that anyway, god, my OCD).
sorry, if i may, i like to add a question since this is about the Rams thread.
if i pick the phone with native 512g. storage, that is the one guarantee to have 8g of rams?
ordering from the samsung USA.
because the site have no indication or information of what model has what ram, anyone can tell me does the USA version with 512g is the 8g ram?
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You're not just paying for 2GB of extra ram, you're also paying for 384GB of extra storage space. From what I've heard., the USA version doesn't even come with 8GB of RAM (yet), so you'll just be paying the extra for the higher capacity storage.
PsiPhiDan said:
As the title suggests, I'm wondering if real world performance will be impacted by the RAM difference. I don't need the storage (512gb... Wow!) because I have a huge micro SD card anyway. But is it worth the price to upgrade the ram RAM? I'm thinking probably not. What do you all think?
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OutCastedSheep said:
yes, i would like to know how they will performs too.
i am hesitating to paid almost 300 bucks for extra 2g of rams if the performances are not significant.
(but i know, i am gonna end up buying that anyway, god, my OCD).
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No, real world performance will not be impacted by the 2 GB extra RAM. 8 GB of RAM would come in handy only if you are running so many intensive applications with some game playing side by side which is unlikely. That Extra RAM is kinda future proofing but it's a "distant" one, I would say. That nand flash storage speed is significantly higher than an SD card, but if 128 gigs internal is enough for you, it's not worth making that extra big hole in your pockets imo.
OutCastedSheep said:
sorry, if i may, i like to add a question since this is about the Rams thread.
if i pick the phone with native 512g. storage, that is the one guarantee to have 8g of rams?
ordering from the samsung USA.
because the site have no indication or information of what model has what ram, anyone can tell me does the USA version with 512g is the 8g ram?
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Though it's shown with an asterisk, it's clearly mentioned in the "Performance" section of Note 9 that,
6 GB/128 GB only.
8 GB/512 GB only.
indicating if you are buying the 512 GB storage model then it has to be the 8 GB RAM variant.
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-note9/performance/
xdaman85 said:
You're not just paying for 2GB of extra ram, you're also paying for 384GB of extra storage space. From what I've heard., the USA version doesn't even come with 8GB of RAM (yet), so you'll just be paying the extra for the higher capacity storage.
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What are you talking about the US version doesn't come with the 8 gig of RAM? Did you watch the unpacking event which was US base?
US carriers already have the 8 gig of RAM version priced out
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They really should have done a 256gb/ 8g version.
I def dont need 512gb of storage but do want the extra ram so will have to pay the $1500 plus taxes (CAN) to get it.
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force70 said:
They really should have done a 256gb/ 8g version.
I def dont need 512gb of storage but do want the extra ram so will have to pay the $1500 plus taxes (CAN) to get it.
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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If there was a 256gb 8gb version I would have ordered that thing at midnight
Bigger SSD is faster than same manufacturer/model smaller SSD. Right?
Does it work the same way in phones?
force70 said:
They really should have done a 256gb/ 8g version.
I def dont need 512gb of storage but do want the extra ram so will have to pay the $1500 plus taxes (CAN) to get it.
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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Agreed man. The 512GB storage is way overkill. Wish I could get the 8GB RAM with the lesser storage. I just cant justify the extra 250$ for an extra 2GB of RAM. (Yeah, I know you get the extra storage too, but I have no need for that.) Sigh. Likely, I will only keep this for 1 year anyways, so I don't worry about "future-proofing".
My thought is on all the speed tests, the 8GB version will be faster, but in real world performance, it most likely will not matter at all. Maybe in Dex mode, if you are using it as a PC? But otherwise, I doubt anyone would notice much of a performance difference.
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bat0nas said:
Bigger SSD is faster than same manufacturer/model smaller SSD. Right?
Does it work the same way in phones?
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This depends on how much of the drive you are filling up. Not really overall drive size. At least not noticeably so.
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drmacrofish said:
This depends on how much of the drive you are filling up. Not really overall drive size. At least not noticeably so.
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People say that they won't be filling even 128GB of the internal memory.
So which phone will be faster: a 128GB phone with 70GB of data or 512GB phone with 70GB of data?
bat0nas said:
People say that they won't be filling even 128GB of the internal memory.
So which phone will be faster: a 128GB phone with 70GB of data or 512GB phone with 70GB of data?
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Most likely will be the same unless you are getting closer to filling the 128 GB drive.
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bat0nas said:
Bigger SSD is faster than same manufacturer/model smaller SSD. Right?
Does it work the same way in phones?
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Yes usually the way more storage is added is by adding more storage chips inside, and they are usually arranged in parallel. So this opens up more read/write channels for the system to use simultaneously. So there should be a real world performance gain there.
xdaman85 said:
You're not just paying for 2GB of extra ram, you're also paying for 384GB of extra storage space. From what I've heard., the USA version doesn't even come with 8GB of RAM (yet), so you'll just be paying the extra for the higher capacity storage.
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You don't have a clue what you are talking about. The US version does have 8gb on the 512gb model. It is all over every site you can order one from.
nizmoz said:
You don't have a clue what you are talking about. The US version does have 8gb on the 512gb model. It is all over every site you can order one from.
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You're right, thanks.
PsiPhiDan said:
As the title suggests, I'm wondering if real world performance will be impacted by the RAM difference. I don't need the storage (512gb... Wow!) because I have a huge micro SD card anyway. But is it worth the price to upgrade the ram RAM? I'm thinking probably not. What do you all think?
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If the improvements that 6gb had over 4gb are anything to go by, I'd say it's worth it.
I'm hoping Linux on Galaxy/Dex arrives soon, perhaps that is the reasoning behind it, especially for things like android studio.
My question is, will battery life be impacted? Meaning does more RAM result in more battery consumption? I doubt anyone really needs 8GB of RAM, but like me, I like to have the top of the line specs, but if this will impact battery performance I may I just go with the 6GB version.
djinn415 said:
My question is, will battery life be impacted? Meaning does more RAM result in more battery consumption? I doubt anyone really needs 8GB of RAM, but like me, I like to have the top of the line specs, but if this will impact battery performance I may I just go with the 6GB version.
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For the same type of RAM, more RAM consumes more power in comparison to less RAM of the same type.
But, more RAM variant of the phone takes overall less power than a lesser RAM variant of the same phone if the user is quite a multitasker as more RAM helps in multitasking by keeping more apps & tasks opened giving less stress to the CPU as it doesn't have to work on re-opening them.
So, if you are quite a heavy multitasker, go with 8 GB RAM variant (as the CPU would get less stressed by not being used for reopening apps/tasks in case of RAM being full and thus saving power), but if you are not, go with 6 GB RAM variant to save power.
Virgo_Guy said:
For the same type of RAM, more RAM consumes more power in comparison to less RAM of the same type.
But, more RAM variant of the phone takes overall less power than a lesser RAM variant of the same phone if the user is quite a multitasker as more RAM helps in multitasking by keeping more apps & tasks opened giving less stress to the CPU as it doesn't have to work on re-opening them.
So, if you are quite a heavy multitasker, go with 8 GB RAM variant (as the CPU would get less stressed by not being used for reopening apps/tasks in case of RAM being full and thus saving power), but if you are not, go with 6 GB RAM variant to save power.
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I'm not so sure that will matter when it comes to multitasking. Android has a default of the amount of things that can be stored in RAM at the same time. It's also time based, meaning that after x amount of time, that active data is not stored anymore. At least that's how it ran last time I app developed for myself.
Now if Samsung engineered their way around that with the Note 9, that would be fantastic. The other issue or obstacle is that apps would need to actually support that feature. Some of them currently don't support backgrounding over an extended period of time, but I do believe the usual memory and data hog suspects do. Facebook, Snapchat, etc.
Ya know, I just realized it's been almost two years since I developed on Android. Wow! Take what I said up there with a giant Grand Canyon grain of salt.
There will be a slight performance boost in Antutu or other benchmark apps, u can not feel it.
I have the 8gb 512 model. And if I go to ram settings it says I only have 4.8 ram left over. It's brand new. No new apps or games. So my guess is if you have the 6gb version. You will probably only have like 3 or less to work with. I'm confused on why this is. Can someone enlighten me please?