[Q] How do you sync hd7 to your outlook? - HD7 General

Hi all,
I just unplugged my sim from my X1 silver, and plugged it into my HD7. and then, after two hours...
1. how do you actually sync your phone contacts from ms outlook 2007 to it? I tried downloading zune, but nothing. The freakin' thing doesn't even have a manual.
2. I thought I won't encounter a problem since it's HTC and since it's WM7, and since my PC is win7 x64. But oh boy, this is getting in my nerves.
3. WM7 doesn't know how find a hidden (SSID) WIFI. I mean,.. Dang!
compared to any wm phones, just plug the hell into your pc, get wmdc, and then voila. 5 minutes tops.
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WP7 is indeed a different bird from WM. Hidden SSID is a known limitation, and hopefully gets addressed with the coming update.
I assume your outlook is not connected to exchange? If so, piece of cake, if not, you'll likely prefer (or not) to use a hotmail connector for outlook. This essentially creates a cloud-based sync.

Oh, and the manual is inside the box in a little pocket.

I managed to upload my msoutlook 2007 contacts to the cloud using OC32bit. almost a piece of cake. But, I'm having a hard time getting it to my phone.
When I try to add an account, it says windows live account is already added. but when I tap people. There nothing in the contacts list. None.
When I try to login to windows live via pc I can see all the contacts from there.
I... just hate it.
Talk about innovation, talk about the future. XD

Use Outlook connector and a hotmail account and everything works perfectly.

Hi,
Thanks! I manage to do it now. After spending a night my phone book has everything on it now(contacts wise). Too lazy to repeat it for calendar, lastly, I missed activesync so much that even your one note syncs to your wm.
I'm having thoughts on returning the phone and getting the android version (desire or X10) because of these:
1. hd7 only installs apps on what windows wants and not what YOU want.
2. it doesn't support pdf file for book reading, document reading.
3. I heard it doesn't open .doc .xls and any lower .doc files. (old docs still exist today unconverted)
4. I can't put files on the phone "ala USB flash disk style" I mean where's the plug drag and go, when you use the phone business wise. how do you intend to use the 16G space? (for movies or music; given the rumored battery life?)
Everything we do on our wm phones aren't easy to do on this wp7 anymore, I haven't reviewed at it before I grabbed my HD7 since I said to myself what do I have to worry about? I have grown from WM5, WM6 and WM6.1, what could go wrong?
I dunno I mean I hope I'm not babbling, I can't google if i don't open pocket ie and type google, I can't install opera, I can't browse flash sites I mean, youtube isn't the only streaming video out there. I can't install my garmin mobile xt, I can't install java app, I can't explore the contents of my phone. I mean this is freakin' alien windows i'm using. I don't even know if I can find my phone on over the local area (win7) network or homegroup.
With all the "I can'ts" I said. I thought I'd better off android!. XD

1. hd7 only installs apps on what windows wants and not what YOU want.
If you mean the app store is limited, yes it is. It's growing though.
2. it doesn't support pdf file for book reading, document reading.
Download the Adobe Reader from Marketplace. Free.
Haven't tried #3.
4. I can't put files on the phone "ala USB flash disk style" I mean where's the plug drag and go, when you use the phone business wise. how do you intend to use the 16G space? (for movies or music; given the rumored battery life?)
Zune. It's just a matter of figuring it out. It's different, to be sure. They also want you to utilize cloud based storage more. The offer free SkyDrive space included with your live account, and most of the MS apps can access that space. Other apps, like the eBook reader Freda, can connect to a DropBox account. Then there is Sharepoint.
I can't google if i don't open pocket ie and type google
Open up IE then press the capacitive Search button. Instantly takes you to Google.

I just found there's a google app in the markeplace too? and yes it grows every hour, its almost endless... pretty neat!
If you say it's just a matter of figuring it out, I hope I can figure it out with an option NOT to upload it on a cloud, since c'mon not all places in the world have super fast internet connection, I don't want uploading an entire folder up there then downloading it to my device.
And even if the chevron thing would work on my device, It would void my warranty so I wouldn't try.
After 2 days with my new phone, I feel much more comfortable with it now. I hope it would get even better.

Gotta follow this up since I don't want to start another similar thread.
I have another question:
The phone contacts (people) always have you on top named "Me"
question is, How do you actually link a contact to "Me"?
I just noticed it now that somebody asks for my bank account and of course, I'll look for it in my notes within my ms outlook contact under my name. I just found out that my name in my hd7 doesn't have a picture and doesn't have a facebook link(not that the FB link is too important), etc. and when I click the link icon in the bottom middle, I can link it to any other contact entry in my phone except "Me".
Technically speaking, the contact named after me in my phone is treated as another person. I tried signing on to windows live, check my contact there, found my name and the options I have is "add as a friend" which is really beginning to sound funny.
Long story short, I need to link my ms outlook 2007 contact(myname) to the owner of the HD7 phone which is me, so I wouldn't retype everything and delete the synced "myname" account since if i do so that would be deleted in my PC. I gotta have 'em both. but I wish I just could link it to my phone's "Me" account.

That's a toughie.
So the "Me" contact syncs up with both your Windows Live account and your Facebook account (which you add in services --> email and accounts, NOT the blue facebook app)
I don't see a way to sync the Me contact with another outlook contact.
You may want to take the notes in your Outlook contact and copy them to your Live stuff.

jimbonics said:
I can't google if i don't open pocket ie and type google
Open up IE then press the capacitive Search button. Instantly takes you to Google.
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that's dependant on carrier... I get yahoo, you could get the google search app from the market or pin google from IE to the start so you can launch straight to google.

jimbonics said:
That's a toughie.
So the "Me" contact syncs up with both your Windows Live account and your Facebook account (which you add in services --> email and accounts, NOT the blue facebook app)
I don't see a way to sync the Me contact with another outlook contact.
You may want to take the notes in your Outlook contact and copy them to your Live stuff.
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Yeah, not the blue facebook app. and I think I'll just have to deal with it having two seperate accounts the Me, and my outlook unlinked.
@frontieruk
Speaking about the search button, it is getting annoying when you actually hit the button accidentally. I hope someday a double-press (double-click) fix would make it possible.

I had a similar experience except that I got the "Me" where it's suppose to be the first time. Learning little by little, I guess Hotmail (windows live) is actually kinda cool.
Here's a good place to start. (in case yo haven't found it yet); Hotmail Tips
includes video tutorials inside

biernes_atrece said:
I had a similar experience except that I got the "Me" where it's suppose to be the first time. Learning little by little, I guess Hotmail (windows live) is actually kinda cool.
Here's a good place to start. (in case yo haven't found it yet); Hotmail Tips
includes video tutorials inside
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I'll check that one out. Thanks!

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how about fully-functioning gmail on kaiser?

I've tried opera mini and opera mobile with no help. I am looking to have full access to my calendar, gAIM, and all those neat little services I can get when I open gmail on my computer.
I've been try to patiently wait for opera mobile 9 but wtf!
and I don't want to involve outlook, IMAP or any other BS "sign up for this" service. I want to load my browser on my Kaiser and see my full calendar (which my wife and I are able to share/edit in real time which rocks), on the go from anywhere...
I don't get it. What services are you looking for exactly? If you wanted to see the GMAIL website exactly as you would on the computer albeit some small differences, logon and select FULL view instead of mobile view on the bottom. Other than that, can you be more specific as to what your looking for?
No, the "FULL" gmail experience in Opera or anything I try does NOT include the gchat list on the left, the gdocument access and absolutely does not load the gcalendar as it looks on my computer. It loaded some cruddy un-editable single page calendar.
I'm sure that this isn't what you are wanting, but thought that I'd throw it out there anyway...
Have you ever tried OggSync? It allows you to sync your calendar with Google Calendar directly. I use it all the time now so that I'm not tied to Outlook. Basically every calendar that I have in Google is sync'd to a category on my Tilt.
As for Google Docs, this page (http://www.google.com/google-d-s/whatsnew.html) claims that you can access them via docs.google.com/m but I haven't tried that yet.
yeah, thanks for the heads up on oggsync but I'm done with "syncing" I've done it in the past and it's a pain, never smooth and NOT real-time, i.e. changes made aren't immediately seen on my wife's calander. The way we keep it now if she adds something to her shared gcalendar I immediately see it on mine and vice versa. With mobile calendar you only get to add, no edit and can't view months at a time easily (or at all?).
Was hoping Opera 9 would fix this.
P.S. I realize these are processor intensive scripts to make g-stuff look so awesome but I think (read: hope) the kaiser should be able to handle it.

I want my contacts to be first name then last name. Possible?

As the title states, I cant figure out how to stop having my contact list put the last name first. I want it organized by first name.
Is this possible?
It is possible, and can be done by using the 'file as' drop down when editing contacts in Outlook on your PC, then re-syncing with your diamond.
Don't know of a way to do it stand alone though.
studz said:
It is possible, and can be done by using the 'file as' drop down when editing contacts in Outlook on your PC, then re-syncing with your diamond.
Don't know of a way to do it stand alone though.
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Im using entourage and its already set that way (first name, last name). Dont know why its not saving it that way on the phone.
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"I'm using entourage"
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That's probably why I would think; I use Outlook, and it works fine... can't speak for your app, sorry.
There's actually a tiny freeware program that does just that, bulk on all your contacts: Contact Utilities v1.0b.
I've used it exactly for this and it worked perfectly
I just save them without a space between first and second names, that guarantees it will be the same on any phone ( e.g. if you go skiing and temporary transfer sim card to another phone or change phone to completely different model)
When you people talk about Outlook, do you mean the old crapy Outlook or brand new kick a*s Windows Live Mail?
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When you people talk about Outlook, do you mean the old crapy Outlook or brand new kick a*s Windows Live Mail?
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they are two different lines of product, Outlook is not old, the latest version is 2007 .. I suppose this one
Actually, I'm willing to buy a Htc Touch diamond, but I've always hated outlook, and I'm kind of more fund on WL Mail... I've been using it quite a lot (About 20 mails a day) and I'm not willing to change my habits... So I wanted to know if
1) The mail tab on TouchFlo shows WL acounts
2) Will contacts on WL Mail be synchronised with the TD?
Thanks for replies.
try contact changer at www.shubaroo.com

[APP] Google Calendar on Raphael

I am one of those guys that uses Google services for almost everything. One of the most valuable services, for me, is the Calendar. However, keeping it in sync with my Touch Pro is not very easy and although there are some applications to handle the synchronization of calendars, I've not been very happy with them. Also, I have Linux on my laptop, which makes Outlook a little bit hard to use . I believe many people may have the same problems that I have. Having this in mind, I've started the development of a little application that shows the google calendar on the Touch Pro. I've included some screenshots of it.
What I would like to ask you is if this application would interest anyone or if I am already reinventing the wheel and there are better applications already done for the same purpose.
I've also attached the application. Remember that it is in the starting phase and right now only shows the events of the default calendar (except All-day events). If the response is favorable I will add the ability to view multiple calendars, to edit, add and remove events and to notify the user as the "reminder" settings of the events specify (right now I let Google send me a SMS, so it is not that important to me). I have not made an installer yet, so to try the application just unzip it to someplace in your raphael and run the executable (with File Explorer, for instance).
As it is, the application will not store or modify any data in your phone, except storing your username (and optionally your password) in the registry (key HKCU\Software\GooMobiCal).
So, what do you think? Should I continue to develop it? Do you have any other (better) option?
Marco
This looks great. Although I'd like to just see Google Calendar work with the calendar built into the phone. Like it did on my blackberry.
i'm with cladeus101. i would love for gCal to work with the existing calendar on the phone.
but then, i also think that the existing WinMo calendar looks ugly. i like the gCal look more. heh
This app is pretty awesome though! I would love to see the new features you mentioned.
cladeus101 said:
This looks great. Although I'd like to just see Google Calendar work with the calendar built into the phone. Like it did on my blackberry.
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You can use Google .net API to this this. There are some interessting opensource sync tools out there, but the developer stopped developing them Oh and there is no need for a PC to sync!
Yes I use google calendar but I've just been opening it in Opera. Which is fine but if there was something better...
Hi !
Nice application, that is promising.
Maybe that using Mobile Outlook with Google Calendar API will be also a great interesting alternative. (I am using a Mac). Online Google Calendar Synchronization with Mobile Outlook can be so great.
However, If it is too difficult, your application is in the good way. Please continue .
faeArai said:
You can use Google .net API to this this. There are some interessting opensource sync tools out there, but the developer stopped developing them Oh and there is no need for a PC to sync!
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I would like to have a tool like the org. "Google Calendar Sync"4Outook but then for the build in Calendar. I'm using Oggsync now and that works more-or-less. It's a paid programm and the licence you pay for, is only valid for one year. (So i use the freeware version)
In de freeware function, the tool does not sync automatically every X-minutes. (And it supports only one calendar, but thats not a big problem to me)
So what i would like for Christmas is a automatic-calendar-sync-tool that syncs all fields in the calendar (and, if possible, syncs more than one calendar. And² if possible syncs the contacts aswell) Djeez, thats a big question for Santa
I'm with the general consensus .. I would really like to see an app that allows me to sync Pocket Outlook calendar with Google calendar, on an automated scheduled occurrence. As already stated, OggSync kind of works, which means I wont pay to purchase it.
The Google calendar is already available on mobiles (http://www.google.com/calendar/m), which I use occasionally, so I'd see little use in this app for myself.
If there is a possability to add appointments and share the agenda I would like to try it.
Also, it would be nice if the password is stored encrypted.
Hope you will develop it, I'm willing to test if you're looking for testers.
I just found this service that might be everything you already want: http://www.goosync.com/
I found something that is free!
This site is in beta, www.nuevasync.com ...let me sync google Calendar AND contacts for free w/activesync on Windows mobile. It's free for now, but it says "beta" so hopefully it won't change.
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This site is in beta, www.nuevasync.com ...let me sync google Calendar AND contacts for free w/activesync on Windows mobile. It's free for now, but it says "beta" so hopefully it won't change.
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I'm impressed... That's exactly what my ActiveSync/Mobilitycentre does. I can even select more items to synchonize there, but wait, i won't!
If i am on the road, i cannot synchronize with my laptop So i would like to synchonize the phone just by using a tool (like the Google Calendar Sync) and my UMTS/HSDPA internetconnection.
Not sure what you mean Daneels. That site does let you sync with only your phone and 3G/data connection, no need for a laptop.
Basically you set up the active sync on your phone to sync with their server settings (that mimic an exchange server) and you can config active sync to do that at intervals of 5 min to 4 hours.
So contacts and calendar, from just the phone, using software already on the phone. Seems to work okay for me, though like I said the web page says "beta" so I'm a little nervous about how long it will last.
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...let me sync google Calendar AND contacts for free w/activesync on Windows mobile.
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...With activesync... Activesync runs on both the phone and computer. By this i mean, very local even without internet, over bluetooth/usb. So i tought someone has re-invented activesync (is also free for Windows-users). If it is syncing over internet, than it's something different . If it enables the use of activesync over internet, than it is extra interesting!
So perhaps we we're having some miscommunication
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say, it let me sync Google calendar/contacts over the internet with the phone...no PC/local connection involved! check it out I just hope it's free forever
These are both subscription services... I do not think that we need subscriptions, just a app that does the synchronization directly with Google. Without anybody in the middle.
I would be glad to start something like that... but I was amazed that there is no cheap way to develop for WinMo. Yes, the SDK is free, but you need Visual Studio, which is far far from free...
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These are both subscription services... I do not think that we need subscriptions, just a app that does the synchronization directly with Google. Without anybody in the middle.
I would be glad to start something like that... but I was amazed that there is no cheap way to develop for WinMo. Yes, the SDK is free, but you need Visual Studio, which is far far from free...
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I'd love to see a talented developer coming up with this as well!
please work on this. Taking winmo into a cloud arena is the right direction. Google currently has the best cloud suite out there. This is great. I can not wait to be able to add events. until then those who are interested should use www.jott.com to add events. there is a google calendar plugin.
Version 0.2
Thank you all for your replies. I already knew GooSync, but not the other services, like nuevosync. However, they are either not free or require a third-party to forward my calendar to my ppc. I see no reason to give a third-party access to my own calendar data (Google already knowing my private calendar is enough for me). I was looking for something more direct.
Having not found anything free, I continued to develop my little application and arrived to version 0.2, which now allows viewing multiple calendars simultaneously (including the Outlook calendar) and allows to add new events to those calendars. Synchronization between Google and Outlook is in my to do list, but I prefer to get more familiar with both Outlook and Google APIs before diving into it. Also, there are a lot of little things to do before, such as:
- Remove events;
- Support All-Day events (they are not displayed yet);
- Support Multi-Day events (they are incorrectly displayed so far);
- Allow "Quick Add" events (easy on google calendar, not so easy on Outlook);
- Store the preferences (such as selected calendars) of the application;
- Store locally the google calendar events to access them offline;
- Encrypt the password on the Registry;
- and probably a lot more features and bug corrections.
Anyway, for those who want to check out how it is going, here are some screenshots and the application. As before, you only need to unzip the file to a folder on your PPC and run the GooMobiCal.exe file.
If you try it, please give some feedback on how to improve it and which features you consider more urgent keeping in mind that synchronization will take a while. Also, I'm doing this on my free time, which really isn't much, so the development is not as fast as I'd wish.

Sync w/o Outlook

Hey folks,
Sorry to post such a 'simple' question, but I can't seem to google up the right words to find what I'm looking for -- and the links I did find didn't give me much personal opinions of different services.
I recently lost Sync options with my work (yay economy and licensing costs).. I loved using Outlook to sync my calender from MS Exchange to my phone... and I could use OWA to enter in my calender events from my computer. It also allowed my calender to survive flashes w/o backups.
I can't survive without my calender syncing, since the change i'm late to work constantly (I used to enter my shifts in OWA w/reminders 2 hours before to make sure I'm moving early enough to get ready & to work on time -- In case I'm watching a movie with the dog and don't notice the time)
I found 2 solutions, but both are around Google's calender, which I'm not super keen on, but could work:
1. Google Calender Mobile Website -- My understanding is it does reminders by SMS(?) and is mostly managed by google -- not the phone.
2. GooSync / OogSync -- Looks like it'll sync right into the phone's native calender -- But I didnt see verification of it syncing with the native calender, and/or if it supports making sure my reminders & other 'extra' information is sync'ed
I don't want to give Microsoft any money for outlook, so what do you all use :-/
Thanks guys, again, sorry for posting this issue without spending 3 hours researching first :-/ but getting a headache from trying to find a solution!
So, My needs:
1) Bi-directional Sync
2) Extra Information (e.g. Reminders) Sync
3) Easy entry/editing of calender info from a computer
Hopes:
4) Can work behind corporate firewalls blocking gmail, yahoo mail, etc.
5) Task Syncing
Thanks guys, love XDA
-Lee
Possible ways to sync
Unfortunately the easiest way would be to sync through outlook.
Though your company may have cut licensing cost ask the IT gurus if your company may have an agreement with MS. It's called Home Use Program (HUP) LINK.
If they do you can buy a full office pack for home use for ~ $20 which is definitely worth doing it. Afterwards simply maintain your contacts at your home PC and sync them through the PC. You may export them out of your office outlook either as PAB or CSV file and import at home. AFAIK this doesn't work with outlook express, you need a full blown office outlook.
You may also look at the link below if this would do it for you.
http://www.tipsfor.us/2008/04/15/sy...ontacts-and-calendar-using-funambol-for-free/
Perhaps you have a friendly IT group. Download the attached file, rename ZIP to PDF and take a look, it may work in your environment.
have you tried mail2web? its outlook (OWA), syncs with your phone (email, contacts, calender, etc..) and you can also manage it on your computer. Best of all, its free http://exchange.mail2web.com/
Hmmm.. with e-mail forwarding from my gmail to this that might actually work out well... save battery life on checking multiple e-mail accounts...
In case someone stumbles on this, link to account setup is: http://services.mail2web.com/Services/exchangesolutions.asp
Took a bit of searchign to find that page, most of their stuff advertises their paid services.... I'll give the free one a try, if I like it I'd be willing to pay (or at least donate) for it
instead of Mail2web try out seven, mail forwarding service. found here, i swear by it, it's been such a good service, you do have to sign up but it remembers you, so if you switch to another phone, ROM, etc your e-mail account(s) will be saved and you can add multiple accounts, and set times for mail forwarding. I'm not sure about contacts, but it asks every time i restart it if i want to import my contacts from g-mail. it's definitely worth a try.

Searching for people in HD7

I find that I can search in people for a person's first name or surname, but I cannot search, for example for a company. Does anyone have a way of doing this, or is this another shortcoming in Phone 7?
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I find that I can search in people for a person's first name or surname, but I cannot search, for example for a company. Does anyone have a way of doing this, or is this another shortcoming in Phone 7?
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There is alot of small things missing and ther should be an update to fix this, however what day....anyones bet !!
I'm pretty peed of that my sim card contacts and my MSN contacts list is a right freeking mess...I have 2-5 names with email address in my people hub...not happy !!
Simply rushed platform....just have to sit on it and bite my lip and wait for them to fix it.
but overall...lol, I'm happy.....better than 6.5 by far !
vardig said:
There is alot of small things missing and ther should be an update to fix this, however what day....anyones bet !!
I'm pretty peed of that my sim card contacts and my MSN contacts list is a right freeking mess...I have 2-5 names with email address in my people hub...not happy !!
Simply rushed platform....just have to sit on it and bite my lip and wait for them to fix it.
but overall...lol, I'm happy.....better than 6.5 by far !
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have you tried going into you contact and linking all the duplicates together. for instance if i have a contact in facebook AND my contacts, i have them linked together.
I've just gone through my contacts linking them and it sure as hell cleans them up.
I selected it so it only showed contacts from Facebook I have details for already on the phone too, then went and linked all of their accounts...
Have to say, very impressed with how it looks once you've done that. It will allow you to sync your LIVE contacts as well...
out of the box, it's messy but once it's configured it looks great.
What really annoys me is the fact it seems impossible to remove an email account with re-setting the phone, now that is a FAIL! - if anyone knows if it is possible, please do let me know!
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have you tried going into you contact and linking all the duplicates together. for instance if i have a contact in facebook AND my contacts, i have them linked together.
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hey xma1e
I've cleaned up the list, however, I still have people on the list I don't really want.
1 ) I have my sim card contacts which I have linked facebook and hotmail with (perfect)
2) I have contacts from my hotmail contacts list which I dont want to show
On point 2. how do I remove Hotmail contacts from the people hub....I just dont want people from my HOTMAIL contact list appear. If you owned a HD2 , you would have the option to sync or not sync hotmail contacts which was PERFECT ! , on the WP7 OS you have no option unless you know how to resolve it
vardig said:
2) I have contacts from my hotmail contacts list which I dont want to show
On point 2. how do I remove Hotmail contacts from the people hub....I just dont want people from my HOTMAIL contact list appear. If you owned a HD2 , you would have the option to sync or not sync hotmail contacts which was PERFECT ! , on the WP7 OS you have no option unless you know how to resolve it
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I cant find a way to do this either. You have the option to disable contact syncing for gmail, but when you go into the email and accounts settings for windows live, it only gives you the option to disable the syncing of email. I dont want my contact list full of s*** from windows live.
vardig said:
hey xma1e
On point 2. how do I remove Hotmail contacts from the people hub....I just dont want people from my HOTMAIL contact list appear. If you owned a HD2 , you would have the option to sync or not sync hotmail contacts which was PERFECT ! , on the WP7 OS you have no option unless you know how to resolve it
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As far as I know, you cannot do this. The way Windows Phone 7 handles contact management is different than Windows Mobile 6.x. Windows Mobile 6.x and Windows Live (Hotmail) are separate components, so you could choose to not sync certain information if you wanted to (or remove Windows Live completely even).
Because Windows Live (Hotmail) is so tightly integrated with Windows Phone 7, it assumes that whatever Windows Live account you chose to apply to your WP7 device is your main account for your information (e-mail, contacts, calendar, etc.). So of course, because it assumes this, it's only natural that you'd want to always see and sync your contact list from Hotmail.
The only way around this at the moment would be to delete your contacts entirely from your current Windows Live account, or to link your phone with a new, empty Windows Live account that doesn't have any contact information (this would allow you to maintain your other account separately).

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