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Hi. I just wonder about this.
Many times, when a new firmware comes out, after 2-3 days there are custom roms based on it, with tweaks (edited build.prop for example) and other speed mods.
Do they really improve speed? I mean seriously, if someone tests the 3-4 most known stable custom roms, based on same android version, and with the same kernel, also with the same apps on it, will be any noticeable difference in speed?
I see other devs releasing a rom after 3 days, and I can't explain what kind of tweaks could give more speed being stable at the same time.
Maybe custom roms are just modded/themed stock roms, and when there's a speed differenve it's because of the kernel inside.
Just being curious about that (also could make the choice of the rom itself easier...)
Any opinion? From your experience at least.
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A mixture of both .
jje
definately a mixture of both. They both make huge improvments over stock. in my opinion anyway
probaby karnel or speed
some costum rome improve your phone speed or karnel speed. especially visuality.
temyes said:
some costum rome improve your phone speed or karnel speed. especially visuality.
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I don't need to improve my phone's karnel speed, it gets enough girls as it is.
However in my experience speed improvement and the smoothness that comes with it are mainly the process of the kernel as that controls the interaction between android and the hardware, where most performance bottlenecks happen. The ROM itself adds functionality, appearence and most important of all...stability.
At least so it appears to me.
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rschenck said:
I don't need to improve my phone's karnel speed, it gets enough girls as it is.
However in my experience speed improvement and the smoothness that comes with it are mainly the process of the kernel as that controls the interaction between android and the hardware, where most performance bottlenecks happen. The ROM itself adds functionality, appearence and most important of all...stability.
At least so it appears to me.
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I partially agree. I mean, if we assume stock roms are stable, custom roms can;t be more stable.
So, they provide some speed, maybe because there are not so many system apps inside, and mostly they provide some nice mods (visual and functional).
I have a new T-Mobile Note 4 (that I'm using on AT&T) and the phone is quite fast, but I enjoy tweaking and am planning to root the phone for Xposed and a few other things, so I was also thinking about flashing a new ROM.
I also use GearVR so I need a compatible (TouchWiz?) ROM and was thinking about FireKat.
Does it really make that big of a difference?
I'm more concerned about performance than battery life, but of course battery life is important too.
Yes, it makes a huge difference.
To go into a bit more detail for ya, yes they do help. Most of the custom roms have been de-bloated and tweaked for "power users" for lack of a better term. They have been adjusted to allow better usability and eliminate some of the useless features. Some devs (not all, be sure to do your research and read the boards) but extra effort into making their roms perform better and allow customization. Be warned though, from my experience, with more customizations and tweaks to appearance you will take a hit to performance.
Thanks very much for the help.
It seems like a lot of ROMs are tweaked for battery life and I often wonder if the performance isn't that good as a result.
sofakng said:
Thanks very much for the help.
It seems like a lot of ROMs are tweaked for battery life and I often wonder if the performance isn't that good as a result.
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FireKat is tweaked for both performance and battery life. My phone is 10 times faster than stock with FireKat V9 and the good battery life is a nice side effect. Make sure your follow the instructions in the first and second posts for maximum performance/battery life.
Maybe everyone can submit performance benchmarks here.
how about this, I used Nova Launcher when im not rooted but when I am rooted (like now running firekat) im on TW all the way.
Don't go by benchmarks, go by feel. Like someone said above read through the different Dev posts and in most, people have done what your talking about and posted numbers. To the original poster, FireKat is awesome. Mega does an incredible job and its definitely worth trying his efforts if you don't mind flashing. The speed difference as well as battery performance is nothing short of incredible on this device. I've tried many different ROMs and always come back to this one.
Of course your experience may vary, but that's what's so awesome is the ability to try a different ROM. Like you, I have a TMobile Note 4 on AT&T. Fortunately for us there are many talented devs for this phone which gives us many options. Give them a try and see for yourself, and trust me, you won't be disappointed.
Just do yourself a favor and don't go by benchmark numbers, and go by what you feel is the fastest and smoothest. Numbers are artificial and change so often that it's much better in my opinion to feel for yourself.
Good luck and enjoy the device man, it's awesome.
I am a power user. I have a gear vr. None of the custom ROMs support vr. I have a backup nandroid of stock ROM, whenever I want to use vr, I nandrood back to it. Daily driver is cm12.
This is my benchmark score anyway.
http://imgur.com/aMxJEac
Touch above 50k using the latest cm12 build.
This is the smoothest running ROM I've used.
Most stable is firekat for sure.
Ugh. Gear VR doesn't work on FireKat?
I've been reading the thread and it says that it would work with a custom kernel. Has anybody tried that?
yes, it's my favorite ROM so far.
lamuertex said:
This is my benchmark score anyway.
http://imgur.com/aMxJEac
Touch above 50k using the latest cm12 build.
This is the smoothest running ROM I've used.
Most stable is firekat for sure.
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I checked ur screen shot, how are you getting lte? is there a fix on cm12?
michwolverines00 said:
I checked ur screen shot, how are you getting lte? is there a fix on cm12?
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I haven't had connectivity issues like some may be experiencing.
sofakng said:
I have a new T-Mobile Note 4 (that I'm using on AT&T) and the phone is quite fast, but I enjoy tweaking and am planning to root the phone for Xposed and a few other things, so I was also thinking about flashing a new ROM.
I also use GearVR so I need a compatible (TouchWiz?) ROM and was thinking about FireKat.
Does it really make that big of a difference?
I'm more concerned about performance than battery life, but of course battery life is important too.
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If you want to speed up the appearance of your phone...make it snappier....go into Developer settings and reduce all animations to 0.5 or turn them off completely. It makes a big difference.
Firekat + AEL kernal = ROM bliss with VR function.
Face_Plant said:
FireKat is tweaked for both performance and battery life. My phone is 10 times faster than stock with FireKat V9 and the good battery life is a nice side effect. Make sure your follow the instructions in the first and second posts for maximum performance/battery life.
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Really ten times? Not even close to twice as fast, maybe half as fast. While Firekat and Dynamic Rom are faster than stock touchwiz......Slim roms or Cyanogenmod are the only thing that REALLY speed up the phone. Touchwiz will always be touchwiz
It's more of a speed upgrade than that. Mega has been tweaking the speed for 9 versions. He's got skills.
Do any of the ROMs speed up gaming at all?
For example, I also have an iPhone 6 Plus and several games are silky smooth on it (Galaxy On Fire 2 HD, Terraria, Shadowgun), but on the Note 4 the performance is much lower. It's not horrible, but it's nowhere near as smooth as iOS. (note: this isn't meant to disrespect Android or the Note 4, but I'm honestly wondering about the difference because I have both phones and compare them side-by-side)
I think what you may really be looking for is a custom kernel. A lot of them are in original android development. I can link you to others.
I'm testing hyperdrive rom today on this phone, however and just downloaded those games. Very zippy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2919441
We'll pretend you didn't just admit you have an iPhone.
Hey XDA,
my Z3 broke and my insurance gave me 500€ to get a new phone so i got the Nexus 6 32GB Blue for 490 € at my workplace.
Before my Z3 i had many different Phones like the S5, LG G3, NEXUS 5, HTC ONE m7 and more
Well what mostly use me device for is communication, A LOT (LOT LOT³) OF Fn READING (Manga and Reddit Sync) and hearing my music on the way to school/work/whatever .
I am a experienced user with roms and flashing but with this new device i just want to flash something daily driver friendly but feature heavy rom and a good battery conserving kernel
So far ive looked around for some roms available here and already choosen the
CHROMA Rom because it seems to be popular here (Not sure why ?!) (What is "Layers" ?)
and the Vindicator Kernel because it looks very promising (Not sure if its the case tho) and it has a lot of features (for a kernel..)
So what do you guys use and show me some screens of your themes becuase i like the possibilty to use the cm theme engine
Thanks
RainbowSix
For stability.. Chroma/hellscore kernel
Or use the JDX based on latest android M which is pretty stable too but you may encounter few bugs
dex2grigg said:
For stability.. Chroma/hellscore kernel
Or use the JDX based on latest android M which is pretty stable too but you may encounter few bugs
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What bugs may i encounter ?
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are YOU running on your Nexus 6??? thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
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"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are YOU running on your Nexus 6??? thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
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Wow thats an awesome and big post with a lot of tought from you, thanks
I never asked for a best rom/kernel.. just your recommendation and im sorry that i didnt see the other thread you showed me
Do you have a tutorial for kernel settings ? because i didnt have a nexus for a long time now i never messed with kernel settings that much
And what is your opinion on my choosen rom/kernel ? what are you using and why ?
rainbowsixpro1 said:
Wow thats an awesome and big post with a lot of tought from you, thanks
I never asked for a best rom/kernel.. just your recommendation and im sorry that i didnt see the other thread you showed me
Do you have a tutorial for kernel settings ? because i didnt have a nexus for a long time now i never messed with kernel settings that much
And what is your opinion on my choosen rom/kernel ? what are you using and why ?
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No worries, but recommendations kind of fall under "best" in a way anyway and it is all subjective.
FWIW, I like to use Slim Alpha and ElementalX kernel.
As for tweaks, it all depends what you want. Performance Versus Battery. Easiest thing to tweak is the governor settings. Some governors will allow you to change the Up Threshold. The % of CPU load before it steps up to a higher frequency. Set the up threshold high, it will stay at a lower frequency for longer, of course that impacts performance.
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No worries, but recommendations kind of fall under "best" in a way anyway and it is all subjective.
FWIW, I like to use Slim Alpha and ElementalX kernel.
As for tweaks, it all depends what you want. Performance Versus Battery. Easiest thing to tweak is the governor settings. Some governors will allow you to change the Up Threshold. The % of CPU load before it steps up to a higher frequency. Set the up threshold high, it will stay at a lower frequency for longer, of course that impacts performance.
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Well i am thinking to go battery but not 100%. but more like 80%
Problem is i dont know what the apps need to work fluid (or not?)
With recommendation i meant something like this
"AWESOME DUDE, I HAVE A NEXUS 6 WITH ROM X AND KERNEL X AND USE IT FOR DD AND LOTS READING
ITS WORKING LIKE A CHARM NEVER hv HAPPIER BEFORE BECAUSE THIS DOES THAT AND THAT DOES THIS"
sounds stupid, i know but maybe someone else using the N6 is in the same scenario as i am.
Got some good news 3 hrs from now i will hold a fresh Nexus 6 in my handy and now someone is offering me a GS6 32GBlack for exchange xD
GOT IT GOT IT GOT IT earlier but happy about this new awesome toy to play with
Hi, I have a one plus 3t and I would like if someone knows a configuration to play, if it exists or something.
Thank you
As long as the Kernel does not underclock your CPU/GPU for Battery Life, any Kernel/ROM should be fine.
thes3usa said:
As long as the Kernel does not underclock your CPU/GPU for Battery Life, any Kernel/ROM should be fine.
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That's what I would think. The hardware on this phone is killer. Only bettered by Snapdragon 835 phones (or the upcoming phones for this year).
I wonder if the top poster is having a specific issue with games? Or just looking to tweak/overclock, despite no real issues?
redpoint73 said:
That's what I would think. The hardware on this phone is killer. Only bettered by Snapdragon 835 phones (or the upcoming phones for this year).
I wonder if the top poster is having a specific issue with games? Or just looking to tweak/overclock, despite no real issues?
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I'm guessing the latter. He's probably on Stock, and he just wants to know if there's any possibility on increasing Performance in Workloads/Games. Nothing much else.
If he does want some recommendations, Caesium Kernel or ElementalX paired with Stock or a highly AOSP based ROM like NOS should do well. Not that the other Kernels or ROMs will be much different, this is just my experience.
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I'm guessing the latter. He's probably on Stock, and he just wants to know if there's any possibility on increasing Performance in Workloads/Games. Nothing much else.
If he does want some recommendations, Caesium Kernel or ElementalX paired with Stock or a highly AOSP based ROM like NOS should do well. Not that the other Kernels or ROMs will be much different, this is just my experience.
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right now I am using the z-unleasht, it runs well the games but it was out of curiosity if there was some configuration of Kernel so that it does not drink so much battery and render better
You should try helix engine: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/themes/app-helix-engine-v1-0-beta-3-t3745746/
Then use "AKT balanced" (change in settings). You can choose for every App other profiles -> change it to performance for your games.
Then you have a fast smartphone with great battery life, and performance while gaming.
You need to be rooted
isaac.mesacorpas said:
right now I am using the z-unleasht, it runs well the games but it was out of curiosity if there was some configuration of Kernel so that it does not drink so much battery and render better
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It's not possible to go after battery economy while wanting to perform heavy duty tasks.
It's either one or the other.
Unleashed by my rooted OP3T on 8.0
thanks for the app i am researching to have ..
Hi guys, i have tried many custom kernel such as ElementalX, Flash kernel, Boeffla, Blu_spark, Wolfram..... etc and I still find that my OnePlus 3T can't handle big games..... unstable FPS even at low settings.... and It heats up pretty quick and render the CPU to lower its frequency, etc.....
Hi guys, if you guys are using custom roms please post your benchmark scores. Because asus6z scores higher than our model, i need to move to custom rom and the fastest one...
It's also help peoples who all are searching for performance roms.
Why not try maxing out your cpu and change the governor to performance?
Turbine1991 said:
Why not try maxing out your cpu and change the governor to performance?
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That will cost battery life too, compared to miui , there are lot of stock type roms provide better performance with battery life.
Custom rom evox 3.3 build 30th November
My Phone is 8gb/256gb Chinese varient with stock miui 11.0.4
leon s.kennady said:
Hi guys, if you guys are using custom roms please post your benchmark scores. Because asus6z scores higher than our model, i need to move to custom rom and the fastest one...
It's also help peoples who all are searching for performance roms.
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If I recall correctly, many reports say that MIUI-based roms significantly faster, even if lacking in some other aspects.
xiaomi.eu ROMs have a number of optimizations that should make it faster than others, though I'm not sure if only marginally or significantly.
AvgZing said:
If I recall correctly, many reports say that MIUI-based roms significantly faster, even if lacking in some other aspects.
xiaomi.eu ROMs have a number of optimizations that should make it faster than others, though I'm not sure if only marginally or significantly.
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Stock Roms always have better Benchmark results.
Abir the boss said:
My Phone is 8gb/256gb Chinese varient with stock miui 11.0.4
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Im using indian version with 11.0.1 i got 41**** ......
My point is, if you want to compare underlying efficiency, apples with apples, at least clock them at the same frequency.
I've tried 3 of the roms, benchmarks aside, they can be really sluggish at times and offer dismal battery life. I just don't think custom kernels/roms have really matured enough to focus on performance on our device.
MiUI 11+ latest v3 of Quax kernel v