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Hello World! What's your current ROM and kernel you're running on, and what do you normally get for screen on time? I'd like to get some suggestions.. Would like to get through a whole day comfortably
It doesn't really matter how much screen on time someone else gets, it doesn't mean you'll ever achieve that same amount. Screen uses a pretty constant amount of power per brightness setting, but the other things that use power will take away from that and not all those things are to do with CPU usage, which is the only thing a ROM/Kernel can affect.
On top of which:
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
rootSU said:
It doesn't really matter how much screen on time someone else gets, it doesn't mean you'll ever achieve that same amount. Screen uses a pretty constant amount of power per brightness setting, but the other things that use power will take away from that and not all those things are to do with CPU usage, which is the only thing a ROM/Kernel can affect.
On top of which:
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
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Yup that does help... No such thing as 'best'. I didn't make the best title lol.. Currently happy with SlimLP and Franco, just wondering what you guys were getting . What are you on, as of now in terms of ROM/Kernel?
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Yup that does help... No such thing as 'best'. I didn't make the best title lol.. Currently happy with SlimLP and Franco, just wondering what you guys were getting . What are you on, as of now in terms of ROM/Kernel?
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Slim + ElemantalX
samdroid24 said:
Hello World! What's your current ROM and kernel you're running on, and what do you normally get for screen on time? I'd like to get some suggestions.. Would like to get through a whole day comfortably
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I hate the "it all depends on your phone, each one is different" bullcrap. That may be true to an extent, but some combos are generally going to be better than others. Besides, most people who ask this question just want to know what people are using and what is working for these people. So now that my rant is over, I'm using BrokenOS with Sensei Kernel R52. I'm getting roughly 4-5 hour SOT with roughly 50-60% brightness and 18 hours off the charger. I'm using the blacked out gapps that are linked with BrokenOS and using the black Swiftkey keyboard theme. All of the black saves battery when the screen is on because those pixels are off when using amoled screens. Don't know if you know that or not, but hey, it's there. Also, I've set the kernel minimum frequency to 223mhz using intelliplug with fsync and mpdecision off using the trickstermod app. I've set the scheduler to fiops and changed the read ahead value to 1024. This has consistently given me these results which I consider to be great! Hope that helps!
ccoulterjg1 said:
I hate the "it all depends on your phone, each one is different" bullcrap. That may be true to an extent, but some combos are generally going to be better than others. Besides, most people who ask this question just want to know what people are using and what is working for these people. So now that my rant is over, I'm using BrokenOS with Sensei Kernel R52. I'm getting roughly 4-5 hour SOT with roughly 50-60% brightness and 18 hours off the charger. I'm using the blacked out gapps that are linked with BrokenOS and using the black Swiftkey keyboard theme. All of the black saves battery when the screen is on because those pixels are off when using amoled screens. Don't know if you know that or not, but hey, it's there. Also, I've set the kernel minimum frequency to 223mhz using intelliplug with fsync and mpdecision off using the trickstermod app. I've set the scheduler to fiops and changed the read ahead value to 1024. This has consistently given me these results which I consider to be great! Hope that helps!
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That helps greatly! Yes, this question was more of a 'Which ROM/Kernel is the best for you' type of question. And yup, I do know that AMOLEDs give you those pitch black blacks, which is good for battery, since those pixels aren't being used. I myself, am a big flashaholic, tried at least 5-6 Roms and a bunch of kernels.. Best battery life so far for me seems to be Slim + Franco.. Never tried BrokenOS, will flash tonight Thx a lot for your detailed response :good:
ccoulterjg1 said:
I hate the "it all depends on your phone, each one is different" bullcrap. That may be true to an extent, but some combos are generally going to be better than others. Besides, most people who ask this question just want to know what people are using and what is working for these people. So now that my rant is over, I'm using BrokenOS with Sensei Kernel R52. I'm getting roughly 4-5 hour SOT with roughly 50-60% brightness and 18 hours off the charger. I'm using the blacked out gapps that are linked with BrokenOS and using the black Swiftkey keyboard theme. All of the black saves battery when the screen is on because those pixels are off when using amoled screens. Don't know if you know that or not, but hey, it's there. Also, I've set the kernel minimum frequency to 223mhz using intelliplug with fsync and mpdecision off using the trickstermod app. I've set the scheduler to fiops and changed the read ahead value to 1024. This has consistently given me these results which I consider to be great! Hope that helps!
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Each phone is different but that really has nothing to do with battery life, except that maybe some CPU's can undervolt more. I'm not sure anyone has given this "bullcrap" answer you eluded to.
samdroid24 said:
That helps greatly! Yes, this question was more of a 'Which ROM/Kernel is the best for you' type of question. And yup, I do know that AMOLEDs give you those pitch black blacks, which is good for battery, since those pixels aren't being used. I myself, am a big flashaholic, tried at least 5-6 Roms and a bunch of kernels.. Best battery life so far for me seems to be Slim + Franco.. Never tried BrokenOS, will flash tonight Thx a lot for your detailed response :good:
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Check out my rom chroma. Franco kernel is preloaded. Huge update coming very soon.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
I've tried most of the roms and kernels and have always gone back to BlissPop and either Lean or Francos. BlissPop for the features and Lean/Franco for the battery life. I would consider myself a moderate to heavy user and get between 4 - 5 hours of sot, but more important to me, I start my day at 5am and shutdown around 10:30 - 11:00 pm and I generally have 35% - 40% or so left. Of course your milage may vary, I also greenify what I can, but I refuse to lose any features i use, why have a fantastic phone and cripple it. I generally don't change any of the kernels, except maybe set it to conservative, I've had issues in the past undervolting, but thats just me. For the slight battery savings I don't find it does that much. Again, my opinion.
Just take a nandroid of where you are and try some combinations. Give it a few days to settle in. Repeat until your happy with the combination.
zephiK said:
Check out my rom chroma. Franco kernel is preloaded. Huge update coming very soon.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
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Will most definitely flash Chroma... Looks like one of the best designed ROMs.. Will flash it either tonight or tomorrow morning... And your name seems familiar from the numerous pages I've went through on Franco's Kernel lol. Thx :laugh:
how many hour is stay on the stock ROM ?
Chroma with FK and vomer are poetry in motion. Use it and prosper.
using the rom that i use, and kernel, and the way i set up my cpu, i see between 5.5 and 7 hours sot. which rom and kernel? try them all out, find your best rom/kernel.
dan04103 said:
Chroma with FK and vomer are poetry in motion. Use it and prosper.
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Glad you're enjoying the combination
zephiK said:
Glad you're enjoying the combination
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Does Chroma have omniswitch? Cause that's a deal breaker
Just flashed Chroma... This ROM is buttery smooth
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I am on Terminus currently with Franco Kernel undervolted all frequencies @-50 which is 100% stable in my case. -75 crashes on games and/or benchmarks. My Snapdragon has a PVS 5 binning.
samdroid24 said:
Just flashed Chroma... This ROM is buttery smooth
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I'm glad you enjoy it. A new build was pushed out if you didn't get it, 01/24.
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Does Chroma have omniswitch? Cause that's a deal breaker
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Nope, I personally don't find the feature useful.
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Right now I'm on validus ROM with Franco kernel. I only changed the max clock in Franco kernel down to 2.2ghz. Right now I'm at almost 36 hours on time and 4 hours and 40 minutes sot
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I'm glad you enjoy it. A new build was pushed out if you didn't get it, 01/24.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
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Yup, flashed the 1/24 build last night
I have a new T-Mobile Note 4 (that I'm using on AT&T) and the phone is quite fast, but I enjoy tweaking and am planning to root the phone for Xposed and a few other things, so I was also thinking about flashing a new ROM.
I also use GearVR so I need a compatible (TouchWiz?) ROM and was thinking about FireKat.
Does it really make that big of a difference?
I'm more concerned about performance than battery life, but of course battery life is important too.
Yes, it makes a huge difference.
To go into a bit more detail for ya, yes they do help. Most of the custom roms have been de-bloated and tweaked for "power users" for lack of a better term. They have been adjusted to allow better usability and eliminate some of the useless features. Some devs (not all, be sure to do your research and read the boards) but extra effort into making their roms perform better and allow customization. Be warned though, from my experience, with more customizations and tweaks to appearance you will take a hit to performance.
Thanks very much for the help.
It seems like a lot of ROMs are tweaked for battery life and I often wonder if the performance isn't that good as a result.
sofakng said:
Thanks very much for the help.
It seems like a lot of ROMs are tweaked for battery life and I often wonder if the performance isn't that good as a result.
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FireKat is tweaked for both performance and battery life. My phone is 10 times faster than stock with FireKat V9 and the good battery life is a nice side effect. Make sure your follow the instructions in the first and second posts for maximum performance/battery life.
Maybe everyone can submit performance benchmarks here.
how about this, I used Nova Launcher when im not rooted but when I am rooted (like now running firekat) im on TW all the way.
Don't go by benchmarks, go by feel. Like someone said above read through the different Dev posts and in most, people have done what your talking about and posted numbers. To the original poster, FireKat is awesome. Mega does an incredible job and its definitely worth trying his efforts if you don't mind flashing. The speed difference as well as battery performance is nothing short of incredible on this device. I've tried many different ROMs and always come back to this one.
Of course your experience may vary, but that's what's so awesome is the ability to try a different ROM. Like you, I have a TMobile Note 4 on AT&T. Fortunately for us there are many talented devs for this phone which gives us many options. Give them a try and see for yourself, and trust me, you won't be disappointed.
Just do yourself a favor and don't go by benchmark numbers, and go by what you feel is the fastest and smoothest. Numbers are artificial and change so often that it's much better in my opinion to feel for yourself.
Good luck and enjoy the device man, it's awesome.
I am a power user. I have a gear vr. None of the custom ROMs support vr. I have a backup nandroid of stock ROM, whenever I want to use vr, I nandrood back to it. Daily driver is cm12.
This is my benchmark score anyway.
http://imgur.com/aMxJEac
Touch above 50k using the latest cm12 build.
This is the smoothest running ROM I've used.
Most stable is firekat for sure.
Ugh. Gear VR doesn't work on FireKat?
I've been reading the thread and it says that it would work with a custom kernel. Has anybody tried that?
yes, it's my favorite ROM so far.
lamuertex said:
This is my benchmark score anyway.
http://imgur.com/aMxJEac
Touch above 50k using the latest cm12 build.
This is the smoothest running ROM I've used.
Most stable is firekat for sure.
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I checked ur screen shot, how are you getting lte? is there a fix on cm12?
michwolverines00 said:
I checked ur screen shot, how are you getting lte? is there a fix on cm12?
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I haven't had connectivity issues like some may be experiencing.
sofakng said:
I have a new T-Mobile Note 4 (that I'm using on AT&T) and the phone is quite fast, but I enjoy tweaking and am planning to root the phone for Xposed and a few other things, so I was also thinking about flashing a new ROM.
I also use GearVR so I need a compatible (TouchWiz?) ROM and was thinking about FireKat.
Does it really make that big of a difference?
I'm more concerned about performance than battery life, but of course battery life is important too.
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If you want to speed up the appearance of your phone...make it snappier....go into Developer settings and reduce all animations to 0.5 or turn them off completely. It makes a big difference.
Firekat + AEL kernal = ROM bliss with VR function.
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FireKat is tweaked for both performance and battery life. My phone is 10 times faster than stock with FireKat V9 and the good battery life is a nice side effect. Make sure your follow the instructions in the first and second posts for maximum performance/battery life.
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Really ten times? Not even close to twice as fast, maybe half as fast. While Firekat and Dynamic Rom are faster than stock touchwiz......Slim roms or Cyanogenmod are the only thing that REALLY speed up the phone. Touchwiz will always be touchwiz
It's more of a speed upgrade than that. Mega has been tweaking the speed for 9 versions. He's got skills.
Do any of the ROMs speed up gaming at all?
For example, I also have an iPhone 6 Plus and several games are silky smooth on it (Galaxy On Fire 2 HD, Terraria, Shadowgun), but on the Note 4 the performance is much lower. It's not horrible, but it's nowhere near as smooth as iOS. (note: this isn't meant to disrespect Android or the Note 4, but I'm honestly wondering about the difference because I have both phones and compare them side-by-side)
I think what you may really be looking for is a custom kernel. A lot of them are in original android development. I can link you to others.
I'm testing hyperdrive rom today on this phone, however and just downloaded those games. Very zippy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2919441
We'll pretend you didn't just admit you have an iPhone.
Hey XDA,
my Z3 broke and my insurance gave me 500€ to get a new phone so i got the Nexus 6 32GB Blue for 490 € at my workplace.
Before my Z3 i had many different Phones like the S5, LG G3, NEXUS 5, HTC ONE m7 and more
Well what mostly use me device for is communication, A LOT (LOT LOT³) OF Fn READING (Manga and Reddit Sync) and hearing my music on the way to school/work/whatever .
I am a experienced user with roms and flashing but with this new device i just want to flash something daily driver friendly but feature heavy rom and a good battery conserving kernel
So far ive looked around for some roms available here and already choosen the
CHROMA Rom because it seems to be popular here (Not sure why ?!) (What is "Layers" ?)
and the Vindicator Kernel because it looks very promising (Not sure if its the case tho) and it has a lot of features (for a kernel..)
So what do you guys use and show me some screens of your themes becuase i like the possibilty to use the cm theme engine
Thanks
RainbowSix
For stability.. Chroma/hellscore kernel
Or use the JDX based on latest android M which is pretty stable too but you may encounter few bugs
dex2grigg said:
For stability.. Chroma/hellscore kernel
Or use the JDX based on latest android M which is pretty stable too but you may encounter few bugs
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What bugs may i encounter ?
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are YOU running on your Nexus 6??? thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
danarama said:
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are YOU running on your Nexus 6??? thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
There is no such thing as the "Best" kernel. What we all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
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Wow thats an awesome and big post with a lot of tought from you, thanks
I never asked for a best rom/kernel.. just your recommendation and im sorry that i didnt see the other thread you showed me
Do you have a tutorial for kernel settings ? because i didnt have a nexus for a long time now i never messed with kernel settings that much
And what is your opinion on my choosen rom/kernel ? what are you using and why ?
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Wow thats an awesome and big post with a lot of tought from you, thanks
I never asked for a best rom/kernel.. just your recommendation and im sorry that i didnt see the other thread you showed me
Do you have a tutorial for kernel settings ? because i didnt have a nexus for a long time now i never messed with kernel settings that much
And what is your opinion on my choosen rom/kernel ? what are you using and why ?
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No worries, but recommendations kind of fall under "best" in a way anyway and it is all subjective.
FWIW, I like to use Slim Alpha and ElementalX kernel.
As for tweaks, it all depends what you want. Performance Versus Battery. Easiest thing to tweak is the governor settings. Some governors will allow you to change the Up Threshold. The % of CPU load before it steps up to a higher frequency. Set the up threshold high, it will stay at a lower frequency for longer, of course that impacts performance.
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No worries, but recommendations kind of fall under "best" in a way anyway and it is all subjective.
FWIW, I like to use Slim Alpha and ElementalX kernel.
As for tweaks, it all depends what you want. Performance Versus Battery. Easiest thing to tweak is the governor settings. Some governors will allow you to change the Up Threshold. The % of CPU load before it steps up to a higher frequency. Set the up threshold high, it will stay at a lower frequency for longer, of course that impacts performance.
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Well i am thinking to go battery but not 100%. but more like 80%
Problem is i dont know what the apps need to work fluid (or not?)
With recommendation i meant something like this
"AWESOME DUDE, I HAVE A NEXUS 6 WITH ROM X AND KERNEL X AND USE IT FOR DD AND LOTS READING
ITS WORKING LIKE A CHARM NEVER hv HAPPIER BEFORE BECAUSE THIS DOES THAT AND THAT DOES THIS"
sounds stupid, i know but maybe someone else using the N6 is in the same scenario as i am.
Got some good news 3 hrs from now i will hold a fresh Nexus 6 in my handy and now someone is offering me a GS6 32GBlack for exchange xD
GOT IT GOT IT GOT IT earlier but happy about this new awesome toy to play with
How to increase the battery life and make it last longer? I shifted for Xperia Z2 to Note 5 and the difference in SOT is waaay too much. Are there any battery efficient roms or kernels or any tweaks to make it last longer?
The best I've seen was with MM, using SkyHigh kernel - disable the big cores, underclock the gpu, increase sensor intervals. But unfortunately that kernel is not at all stable. It likes to crash and freeze up a lot.
Our device isn't well supported compared to non-exynos devices.
Turbine1991 said:
The best I've seen was with MM, using SkyHigh kernel - disable the big cores, underclock the gpu, increase sensor intervals. But unfortunately that kernel is not at all stable. It likes to crash and freeze up a lot.
Our device isn't well supported compared to non-exynos devices.
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How much SOT do you get?
Turbine1991 said:
The best I've seen was with MM, using SkyHigh kernel - disable the big cores, underclock the gpu, increase sensor intervals. But unfortunately that kernel is not at all stable. It likes to crash and freeze up a lot.
Our device isn't well supported compared to non-exynos devices.
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Although you can't disable all the big cores(min 1 core stays online afaik), messing with kernel stuffs -which you may not doing it correctly- makes it unstable. Otherwise it was stable as rock. On behalf of an official tester, even experimental versions were doing great. You just have be aware of what you're messing with, it was for advanced users. Otherwise you can just flash it and use, there is even no need to install synapse. Sigh.. Good old times.
Hey guys. I usually wouldnt have made a thread like this, but honestly, i am getting tired trying rom after rom to find the one that works. I am the sort of guy who switches phones pretty often because i like what Devs at XDA are able to do to customize them. So i have recently started using higher end phones, and coming from mid-rangers i expected awesome performance and lag free experience. My last device was a one plus 2. After switching to mi5(which has a better processor), i have been experiencing lag spikes with rom. None of them work perfectly smooth, I would go to the depth of saying that my old Nexus 5 provides much smoother experience compared to this. Surprisingly, this is not the case with miui. The stock Miui rom aswell as my current rom(cpMIUI) are both super smooth(as is expected out of a sd820). I am stock android guy though, also google camera port doesnt work on miui. I just wanted to confirm if it was just my unit or is everyone facing similar issues. Buying a sd820, i dont expect something as simple as pulling down the notification bar to be laggy. Also. this issue is more prominent with Lineage OS and Lineage OS based roms. I found AOSP rooms to be generally smoother, but still, laggy enough to notice. This really wasnt the case with OP2, and i honestly wouldnt have switched if it wasnt for the amazing camera of Mi5(only with GcamMod ). Any help would be much appreciated. PS: I have tried custom kernels, even those which overclock this sd820 to normal frequencies. But no luck . I really dont have the budget to switch phones rn, and i would like to stick to mi5. Hope someone can help.
aditya1999 said:
Hey guys. I usually wouldnt have made a thread like this, but honestly, i am getting tired trying rom after rom to find the one that works. I am the sort of guy who switches phones pretty often because i like what Devs at XDA are able to do to customize them. So i have recently started using higher end phones, and coming from mid-rangers i expected awesome performance and lag free experience. My last device was a one plus 2. After switching to mi5(which has a better processor), i have been experiencing lag spikes with rom. None of them work perfectly smooth, I would go to the depth of saying that my old Nexus 5 provides much smoother experience compared to this. Surprisingly, this is not the case with miui. The stock Miui rom aswell as my current rom(cpMIUI) are both super smooth(as is expected out of a sd820). I am stock android guy though, also google camera port doesnt work on miui. I just wanted to confirm if it was just my unit or is everyone facing similar issues. Buying a sd820, i dont expect something as simple as pulling down the notification bar to be laggy. Also. this issue is more prominent with Lineage OS and Lineage OS based roms. I found AOSP rooms to be generally smoother, but still, laggy enough to notice. This really wasnt the case with OP2, and i honestly wouldnt have switched if it wasnt for the amazing camera of Mi5(only with GcamMod ). Any help would be much appreciated. PS: I have tried custom kernels, even those which overclock this sd820 to normal frequencies. But no luck . I really dont have the budget to switch phones rn, and i would like to stick to mi5. Hope someone can help.
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Mi devices works better with MIUI... That's just the way it is. Custom rom experience on Mi can't compare with the likes of Oneplus, Nexus, or maybe Pixel...
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u can install Gcam in miui just use magisk to root and add camera fix module
Gcam will work in miui9
am using los15.1 and most of the apps freezed now its smooth and giving good battery life
All lags, freezes and scroll stutters caused by kernel. All oreo kernels based on HMP scheduling with perf daemon. And don't know why, but it cant provide smooth FPS while ui drawing (maybe some bug with frequency drops). So, 90% roms based on Oreo will lag while drawing UI all time (you can check it in dev settings > Profile GPU Rendering). Some roms trying to avoid this bug, like LOS, AEXMod with some tweaks in governor. This 2 roms much smoother than other. Or you can change default governor from Interactive to Conservative (root required). It brings massive boost on ui drawing smoothness. Or try something based on EAS kernels (Purefusion, JDC AOSP). But these roms based on 8.0 Oreo.
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All lags, freezes and scroll stutters caused by kernel. All oreo kernels based on HMP scheduling with perf daemon. And don't know why, but it cant provide smooth FPS while ui drawing (maybe some bug with frequency drops). So, 90% roms based on Oreo will lag while drawing UI all time (you can check it in dev settings > Profile GPU Rendering). Some roms trying to avoid this bug, like LOS, AEXMod with some tweaks in governor. This 2 roms much smoother than other. Or you can change default governor from Interactive to Conservative (root required). It brings massive boost on ui drawing smoothness. r try something based on EAS kernels (Purefusion, JDC AOSP). But these roms based on 8.0 Oreo.
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Thanks for a constructive reply. I am not using LOS because of the fingerprint delay bug, also i found LOS to be the laggiest of them all. But i recently installed Cosmic os 8.1, and this one seems to be rendering fine. It is using the priima kernel i suppose, with interactive governors and cfq for io scheduling. Also, i just checked, it has oc'ed the sd820 to normal frequencies (2.15 and .16)
Also, i have tried Floppy kernel, based on all 3, Google, linaro and ubertc. Also, i tried switching the governor to zen(the one i am aware of thats made to make your ui smoother). This issue is not only persistent with oreo roms, but also the nougat roms. But i have been happy and impressed by cosmic, but i will keep on switching roms and hopefully would be able to provide some feedback to the XDA community.
vaisakmct said:
u can install Gcam in miui just use magisk to root and add camera fix module
Gcam will work in miui9
am using los15.1 and most of the apps freezed now its smooth and giving good battery life
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I will try that one. Can you link me to the module thread?
aditya1999 said:
Hey guys. I usually wouldnt have made a thread like this, but honestly, i am getting tired trying rom after rom to find the one that works. I am the sort of guy who switches phones pretty often because i like what Devs at XDA are able to do to customize them. So i have recently started using higher end phones, and coming from mid-rangers i expected awesome performance and lag free experience. My last device was a one plus 2. After switching to mi5(which has a better processor), i have been experiencing lag spikes with rom. None of them work perfectly smooth, I would go to the depth of saying that my old Nexus 5 provides much smoother experience compared to this. Surprisingly, this is not the case with miui. The stock Miui rom aswell as my current rom(cpMIUI) are both super smooth(as is expected out of a sd820). I am stock android guy though, also google camera port doesnt work on miui. I just wanted to confirm if it was just my unit or is everyone facing similar issues. Buying a sd820, i dont expect something as simple as pulling down the notification bar to be laggy. Also. this issue is more prominent with Lineage OS and Lineage OS based roms. I found AOSP rooms to be generally smoother, but still, laggy enough to notice. This really wasnt the case with OP2, and i honestly wouldnt have switched if it wasnt for the amazing camera of Mi5(only with GcamMod ). Any help would be much appreciated. PS: I have tried custom kernels, even those which overclock this sd820 to normal frequencies. But no luck . I really dont have the budget to switch phones rn, and i would like to stick to mi5. Hope someone can help.
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Absolutely yes! People were blaming me also for using antutu, because I had this doubt, then discovered that the kernel uses a strange sort of cpu scheduler which causes a performance drop of 20/25%, (still can't fix switching performance profile) results were different switching to a custom kernel. I think that people when create new roms they just steal LOS kernel, so that's why this issue occurs in more than one rom.
Anyway I also prefer the stock android camera, and I like to use the "classic" way instead of magisk thing (never liked that), just download GCam, then remove in the framework folder the camera_experimental.jar (or something called like that) and you should be fine, there are some little bugs too but is is usable.
lukypuie said:
Absolutely yes! People were blaming me also for using antutu, because I had this doubt, then discovered that the kernel uses a strange sort of cpu scheduler which causes a performance drop of 20/25%, (still can't fix switching performance profile) results were different switching to a custom kernel. I think that people when create new roms they just steal LOS kernel, so that's why this issue occurs in more than one rom.
Anyway I also prefer the stock android camera, and I like to use the "classic" way instead of magisk thing (never liked that), just download GCam, then remove in the framework folder the camera_experimental.jar (or something called like that) and you should be fine, there are some little bugs too but is is usable.
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So which kernel are you using rn? Cosmic OS comes with the priima kernel, it is the best experience i have had by far. Glad to know i am not the only one suffering stutters, but also kinda disappointed to see this happen.
aditya1999 said:
So which kernel are you using rn? Cosmic OS comes with the priima kernel, it is the best experience i have had by far. Glad to know i am not the only one suffering stutters, but also kinda disappointed to see this happen.
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Yea, me too, and there were people who treated me like crazy lmao, imo is a kernel scheduler issue, btw Idk why that happens , anyway there are plenty of custom kernels, in particular I used Floppy which fixes the problem.(Still need to tweak some kernel governor settings)
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Yea, me too, and there were people who treated me like crazy lmao, imo is a kernel scheduler issue, btw Idk why that happens , anyway there are plenty of custom kernels, in particular I used Floppy which fixes the problem.(Still need to tweak some kernel governor settings)
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Aye i tried floppy. Didnt quite work for me. Regardless, priima is working fine. I am thinking of switching to other roms. Will try the floppy again, thanks for the advice.
aditya1999 said:
Aye i tried floppy. Didnt quite work for me. Regardless, priima is working fine. I am thinking of switching to other roms. Will try the floppy again, thanks for the advice.
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When i said it needs some tweaks, that is because it works in a strange way, the performance profile in the "Battery" section of LOS needs to be set to something higher, that controls the CPU, meanwhile there I also used an app called "Spectrum" that lets you control the GPU performance profile (Even though it should be control CPU), you need to set all of those to "Balanced"
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When i said it needs some tweaks, that is because it works in a strange way, the performance profile in the "Battery" section of LOS needs to be set to something higher, that controls the CPU, meanwhile there I also used an app called "Spectrum" that lets you control the GPU performance profile (Even though it should be control CPU), you need to set all of those to "Balanced"
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Interesting. I am busy this weekend, but i will surely test this one after i come back.
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aditya1999 said:
Hey guys. I usually wouldnt have made a thread like this, but honestly, i am getting tired trying rom after rom to find the one that works. I am the sort of guy who switches phones pretty often because i like what Devs at XDA are able to do to customize them. So i have recently started using higher end phones, and coming from mid-rangers i expected awesome performance and lag free experience. My last device was a one plus 2. After switching to mi5(which has a better processor), i have been experiencing lag spikes with rom. None of them work perfectly smooth, I would go to the depth of saying that my old Nexus 5 provides much smoother experience compared to this. Surprisingly, this is not the case with miui. The stock Miui rom aswell as my current rom(cpMIUI) are both super smooth(as is expected out of a sd820). I am stock android guy though, also google camera port doesnt work on miui. I just wanted to confirm if it was just my unit or is everyone facing similar issues. Buying a sd820, i dont expect something as simple as pulling down the notification bar to be laggy. Also. this issue is more prominent with Lineage OS and Lineage OS based roms. I found AOSP rooms to be generally smoother, but still, laggy enough to notice. This really wasnt the case with OP2, and i honestly wouldnt have switched if it wasnt for the amazing camera of Mi5(only with GcamMod ). Any help would be much appreciated. PS: I have tried custom kernels, even those which overclock this sd820 to normal frequencies. But no luck . I really dont have the budget to switch phones rn, and i would like to stick to mi5. Hope someone can help.
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Hello, I have the same problem. My MI 5 only works on miui. Any other newer rom with android Oreo brings me problems, slow looks like snapdragon 4xx. Game performance gets horrible. But they are only in the most recent roms, because in the stable JDC Team 7.1.2 rom it behaves absurdly fluid and fast, in Lineage 14.1 as well. I do not know what causes this but I can not use any more Oreo roms. I prefer Pure Android but can not use the new roms at the moment, I should settle for the nougat or miui roms. Well, I'm not saying that the new roms are bad, the work of the developers is wonderful, congratulations to everyone, but something in the new roms does not behave well.
Colkiese171 said:
Hello, I have the same problem. My MI 5 only works on miui. Any other newer rom with android Oreo brings me problems, slow looks like snapdragon 4xx. Game performance gets horrible. But they are only in the most recent roms, because in the stable JDC Team 7.1.2 rom it behaves absurdly fluid and fast, in Lineage 14.1 as well. I do not know what causes this but I can not use any more Oreo roms. I prefer Pure Android but can not use the new roms at the moment, I should settle for the nougat or miui roms. Well, I'm not saying that the new roms are bad, the work of the developers is wonderful, congratulations to everyone, but something in the new roms does not behave well.
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Try the cosmic os. It seems to be working amazingly well. Also Los never worked for me, full of stutters and the ofc the fingerprint delay on lockscreen issue. Also yeah, jdc aosp should work, in my experiments, all AOSP based roms are working fine, there is some issue with Los kernel, and hence with all roms based off of it.