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Backup Question

I have a couple of questions I am hoping to get help with. First if I have a custom ROM on my phone like MoDaCo and I wipe back to factory will it also add back the apps I removed like Nascar, footprints, ect. I am asking because after I wiped it through the recovery screen it did not add these back. The second question is when trying to do a Nandroid restore from when I first rooted the phone after I updated it, I get an error telling me it has to be done from the shell. Can I do this and if so how? Thanks

can anyone help with this?

Are you using RA-1.2.3??
My Nandroid backups have never asked me to restore through terminal.
Your back up maybe corrupt?? If so, I am not sure if people have had success loading a Nandroid from another phone, but you are welcome to one of my factory backups if it works. Can someone confirm a Nandroid from another phone will restore? I will Send if it does.
Also, the factory reset in RA1.2.3 should put back all apps. It is a "Factory reset" though I have never done one without immediately loading a rom. Who knows how its actually supposed to work.

Kcarpenter said:
Are you using RA-1.2.3??
My Nandroid backups have never asked me to restore through terminal.
Your back up maybe corrupt?? If so, I am not sure if people have had success loading a Nandroid from another phone, but you are welcome to one of my factory backups if it works. Can someone confirm a Nandroid from another phone will restore? I will Send if it does.
Also, the factory reset in RA1.2.3 should put back all apps. It is a "Factory reset" though I have never done one without immediately loading a rom. Who knows how its actually supposed to work.
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I am using RA-1.2.3. I guess it is possible the backup got corrupt when I moved it to my PC and then back to the phone. What is strange is none of the backups I had saved would take. I was able to do a backup and then right after that restore it so I know it works. I did about three factory resets and it would not add back the system apps I removed, but I think before the Sprint update when I first rooted the phone it did add back all the apps when I reset the phone. I could be wrong or it may be they came back when I put MoDaCo 1.1 on the phone since his ROM has everything with it. Thanks for responding.

last MoDaCo Rom I loaded (1.2c) all the stock apps came back, but I also loaded the Optimzation.zip so i wasn't sure who put them back.
Good to know it was the MoDaCo. It seems that even loading Rom's most things are fairly persistent and don't get wiped or over writen which is nice.
WinMoBo phones usually wipe everything out when you do this stuff.

redram38 said:
I have a couple of questions I am hoping to get help with. First if I have a custom ROM on my phone like MoDaCo and I wipe back to factory will it also add back the apps I removed like Nascar, footprints, ect. I am asking because after I wiped it through the recovery screen it did not add these back. The second question is when trying to do a Nandroid restore from when I first rooted the phone after I updated it, I get an error telling me it has to be done from the shell. Can I do this and if so how? Thanks
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doing a "factory reset" will not replace stock programs you deleted, it will just delete all your settings and apps you installed.
It's a misnomer in fact.... but when HTC made the option, they assumed that you hadn't rooted your phone. That's why all they really delete is the stuff in /data. Nothing in /system is added or modified.
If you really want to do a true factory reset, get the RUU from HTC and run it to reset your phone to exactly what it was when you got it.
As far as Nandroid not working, I've never had that problem either, but if your backup is corrupt then RUU will be your only option.

[Q]

Ok, so I promise I've tried to search for a solution, but I really don't even know where to start. Please let me apologize if this has been discussed at exhaustion, but the guys I've asked so far have not seen this issue. Perhaps some of you have.
I'm going to list EVERYTHING I can think of that I've done. Please tell me what I've done wrong.
1. After picking up my NC last night, I tried running the Non-Root SDcard method of running Froyo to try it out. I tried running Rom Manager but wasn't able to do much. I tried Flashing CWM and feel that might have been a mistake. Hopefully, someone can reassure me that was not a problem.
2. I was unable to get GApps (Market most importantly) to show.
2a. After Flashing CWM and removing the SD card, I found that if I tried to force the 1.1.0 update, it would error out and put me into Recovery. That was something I assumed would not be possible, since I was of the understanding that the Non-root SDcard method was restricted solely to the SD card and didn't actually touch the Onboard memory.
3. Assuming the SDcard method might be limited to not having Market access and was more of a pre-root preview. I moved on to actually Root my NC. I did the whole, SD-image method and let my NC auto-reboot. The method I followed didn't mention anything about skipping the Google Account step. So, I tried that with some difficulty and had to back out. I never tried the whole Youtube account sync. I accessed the Market, but none of my downloads will actually go through. Tried multiple reboots, but no luck.
4. I tried to root again to see if something went awry. This time, I didn't have to go through the Android Setup steps??? But, I went ahead and logged into YouTube. Then, I went to Gmail Accounts>Account Setting, but each time it just causes my NC to reboot. Market still doesn't actually download anything.
I know it probably seems like I'm trying to many things, but I'm trying to discover the source of the problem, but behind each corner is another problem. I can't think of anything I'm doing wrong. I'm becoming very agitated. This was supposed to be a simple process, but it is not at all right now.
5. Now, as a last ditch effort, I tried to UnRoot my phone with the 8-Boot-Interruptions method. Problem is, instead of restoring the device to stock, it puts me back into CWM recovery.
Is it possible that Flashing CWM has irreversibly imprinted itself on my NC and I can not get past it to actually move forward with the Market and such? Is there any way to reverse the Flashing of CWM?
Thanks a ton in advance.

My guess is CWM writes to the system folder no matter if it has booted from SDCard or not...
Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931720
I believe that is the correct set of instructions, if not, my apologies.
migrax

For reference, I'm running B&N 1.0.1 and used auto-nooter-2.12.25.

It sounds like you might want to navigate overt to the development forum and do a bit of reading. I'm unsure why you flashed CWM onto your nook, but everything is easily fixable. It really depends on what state you want your nook to be in when it's all said and done. There's a thread in the development forum about restoring back to stock, doing so will remove cwm and let you start over. This is probably the best way to go as the current state of yur nook is questionable. Once you have stock working your best bet for the most functionality is rooting, and the easiest way to do that is autonooter. Definitely read the threads more than once before attempting any of this so you will know what to expect before it happens.

migrax said:
My guess is CWM writes to the system folder no matter if it has booted from SDCard or not...
Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931720
I believe that is the correct set of instructions, if not, my apologies.
migrax
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Just read through that link. Looks very promising. Dont think I'll have a chance to do it tonight, but I will report back ASAP. I'm hoping to get back to stock and then go straight through the root process as intended. I really feel that my unintentional CWM Flashing experience is the root of my frustration.
I'm hopeful that this will be the end of it.
Thanks again.

Thanks a BUNCH!!! It all worked out. Getting the .img out of the .tar.gz was the most difficult, but once I figured out how to use 7-zip, all was well.
I'm now rooted and have full Market/Gmail access. I'm a very happy boy

Help Very Much Needed!

OK, I need some serious help here. I've had my nc since sept., I followed the guide to put cm7 on an sd card and have been using it since then. I wanted to update to the newest .4 version but it wouldn't let me, apparently the sd card installs CMR on the nook?? I didn't think it made any permenant changes but I was clearly wrong.
OK, so no update, I follow the directions here:
http://theunlockr.com/2011/02/14/how-to-restore-the-nook-color-to-stock/
to try to get it back to factory stock, but when I rebooted and took the sd card out it started this flashing thing. It turns on but after the nook boot screen it starts flashing, normal screen/black/normal screen/black. I tried to factory reset and delete cache and that didn't do anything. I tried the directions in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050520
and still the same problem.
Can you help me or did I really screw things up? I guess last resort is to go to the BN store and say the update screwed things up?
EDIT: Well, I tried to factory reset the nook after following the "Restore your nook" thread and it still doesn't work. Now it doesn't flash but it also doesn't allow me to download anything at all. I'm going to try one more time to factory reset things and see what it looks like after that. My computer won't allow me to transfer files to the nc when it's connected anymore either.

[Q] HELPPP Accidental internal storage wipe

ok, so i was trying to root my sprint htc one, and everything was going, ok. i unlocked the bootloader simple enough. then i wanted to back up the data, before i tried putting roms on it. well twrp kept saying i only had about 34 mb of space which made no sense since i had formatted it, and only brought back things like contacts and texts. when i checked my phone it said that i had 24gbs. so i couldnt find an answer to this anywhere so while looking through twrp i saw the wipe function. not having seen anything about it, i said, maybe if i reformat it again, itl clear up. so i hit wipe all. well after it was done it only said i had 1.2 gbs, so still confused i went to load my normal os, well i cant. because wiping everything meant the system data the os is on. i spend hours trying to find a fix, as im only able to go between the bootloader and twrp, and i see a sideload option, and after following the steps, i attempt to sideload. everything is going well. Viper looks like its about to install, until at the last second it says install fail. but now i cant even access the recovery menu. literally stuck in the boot loader option. all my contacts and pictures and stuff are backed up, so i have no problem formatting my phone to scratch if it means fixing this, but can anyone point me in the right direction???? i cant find anything on this, ive been searching through this site, and some people with similar issues solve it by sheer luck, but i have no rom back up(since i was trying to do that when i got into this problem) please please help!!!
**edit** i was able to get into twrp by using the recovery steps, though im just back to square 1. is there a guarenteed reliable sideloader that can work?

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Try the latest RUU first if it does not work follow the guide from the beginning it will get you fixed up.

raynefr said:
ok, so i was trying to root my sprint htc one, and everything was going, ok. i unlocked the bootloader simple enough. then i wanted to back up the data, before i tried putting roms on it. well twrp kept saying i only had about 34 mb of space which made no sense since i had formatted it, and only brought back things like contacts and texts. when i checked my phone it said that i had 24gbs. so i couldnt find an answer to this anywhere so while looking through twrp i saw the wipe function. not having seen anything about it, i said, maybe if i reformat it again, itl clear up. so i hit wipe all. well after it was done it only said i had 1.2 gbs, so still confused i went to load my normal os, well i cant. because wiping everything meant the system data the os is on. i spend hours trying to find a fix, as im only able to go between the bootloader and twrp, and i see a sideload option, and after following the steps, i attempt to sideload. everything is going well. Viper looks like its about to install, until at the last second it says install fail. but now i cant even access the recovery menu. literally stuck in the boot loader option. all my contacts and pictures and stuff are backed up, so i have no problem formatting my phone to scratch if it means fixing this, but can anyone point me in the right direction???? i cant find anything on this, ive been searching through this site, and some people with similar issues solve it by sheer luck, but i have no rom back up(since i was trying to do that when i got into this problem) please please help!!!
**edit** i was able to get into twrp by using the recovery steps, though im just back to square 1. is there a guarenteed reliable sideloader that can work?
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Do you still have the memory issue? If so, try running a RUU, and see if that fixes your problem.
If not, just use adb sideload to sideload a ROM. Then wipe everything except internal storage and install the ROM normally.
EDIT: Looks like @BD619 ninja'd me XD

BTW sideload very rarely works when you wipe your sdcard.

BD619 said:
Look HERE
Try the latest RUU first if it does not work follow the guide from the beginning it will get you fixed up.
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hey thanks for the reply. i followed the guide and after some effort, everything seemed good, but when i was trying to load 5.03 sense 6 rom, i got to the htc start up, then it defaulted back to the bootloader..i went with the deodex version of the download, should i try the odex? or a different version all together?

and now it doesnt want to boot into recovery mode either! going to try redoing the steps, but i just cant figure out what the problem is
**edit* i cant fix twrp. the title loads, but thats it. endless loop

ok i got it to seemingly work. restoring content now. sat in fron of my pc for 15 hours...not even sure where imat or if i got any closer to rooting..smh..thank you everyone who helped. if anyone comes across this
to get out of the endless cycle of recover/loading screen.. delete your twrp, or whatevs your using. even if you have the latest, just redownload it. worked for me. i guess there is a huge difference between the odex and the deodex.i had figured deodex was a more refined version, but maybe it had more complicated software. in any case, if you are at a point where you dont have a base os, and you make it this far, go with odex, it worked for me. htc is big on back up, so i was more worried about having to scrap my phone then i was regaining data, especially with most of my stuff backed up to google drive. hopefully you guys are careful.
now...about this backup issue i had in the first place. how can i fix the storage issue? i have a 32 gb phone minus partition leaves me with over 24gb..why is it going based off the separate phonememory slot? why cant i change it?

HELP! Nexus 6 Encryption Unsuccessful - Can't grab TWRP backup or any other data

Hoping I'm not totally screwed here, but here goes. I'm swapping from one Nexus 6 to another. On stock 5.0.1 (still), rooted, and unencrypted. I made my Titanium Backups (always as a precaution) then booted to TWRP and made a nandroid backup. I was too tired to command line myself so I decided to use the Skipsoft Toolkit to pull my data. I got curious about a full backup option on there so I tried it out. First thing it did was boot an unsecured boot.img. Phone then boots back up and begins the encryption process. I knew I didn't want encryption, so I powered off mid-process. (Kicking myself for that now...) Now when I boot back up, I get the "Encryption Unsuccessful" message telling me that my data is unusable and that I must do a phone reset.
I can still get to the bootloader and boot into TWRP, but it can't see any of the data on the device--including the TWRP backup I made earlier today. Seeing as I didn't get any of my backups off before this happened, I need that TWRP or I will lose everything since my last backup on 11/6. Is there ANY way to still pull data from a partial but failed encryption? Please help!

wizard5007 said:
Hoping I'm not totally screwed here, but here goes. I'm swapping from one Nexus 6 to another. On stock 5.0.1 (still), rooted, and unencrypted. I made my Titanium Backups (always as a precaution) then booted to TWRP and made a nandroid backup. I was too tired to command line myself so I decided to use the Skipsoft Toolkit to pull my data. I got curious about a full backup option on there so I tried it out. First thing it did was boot an unsecured boot.img. Phone then boots back up and begins the encryption process. I knew I didn't want encryption, so I powered off mid-process. (Kicking myself for that now...) Now when I boot back up, I get the "Encryption Unsuccessful" message telling me that my data is unusable and that I must do a phone reset.
I can still get to the bootloader and boot into TWRP, but it can't see any of the data on the device--including the TWRP backup I made earlier today. Seeing as I didn't get any of my backups off before this happened, I need that TWRP or I will lose everything since my last backup on 11/6. Is there ANY way to still pull data from a partial but failed encryption? Please help!
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You most likely corrupted all the data on the device.
Not sure why you thought powering off during encryption would stop it and not cause corruption.
Also dont even think about restoring a nandroid on a new device.

zelendel said:
You most likely corrupted all the data on the device.
Not sure why you thought powering off during encryption would stop it and not cause corruption.
Also dont even think about restoring a nandroid on a new device.
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Because I wasn't thinking... I know--stupid. Is there no shot at recovering anything?
I'm switching from one Nexus 6 to another. Can I not restore a nandroid to an identical device?

wizard5007 said:
Because I wasn't thinking... I know--stupid. Is there no shot at recovering anything?
I'm switching from one Nexus 6 to another. Can I not restore a nandroid to an identical device?
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No, no you can not. A nandroid has device spicific files in it like GPS and IMEI info. Restoring it is just asking for trouble. Only restore USER apps and data everything else is off limits.

How did you fix the issue?

zelendel said:
No, no you can not. A nandroid has device spicific files in it like GPS and IMEI info. Restoring it is just asking for trouble. Only restore USER apps and data everything else is off limits.
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So what specifically is in /system or /data that would be so dangerous?
Have you ever actually done this, or are you just saying stuff you have read but don't fully understand?
If you backed up every single partition its a bad idea to restore to another phone... But simple backups are fine to restore cross device if you aren't including efs

scryan said:
So what specifically is in /system or /data that would be so dangerous?
Have you ever actually done this, or are you just saying stuff you have read but don't fully understand?
If you backed up every single partition its a bad idea to restore to another phone... But simple backups are fine to restore cross device if you aren't including efs
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You do know who your talking to right? I don't read things. I do them. Been doing this for over 10 years now. So just maybe you might want to know who you are talking to first.

zelendel said:
You do know who your talking to right? I don't read things. I do them. Been doing this for over 10 years now. So just maybe you might want to know who you are talking to first.
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Nope, no idea who you are.
All I know is how many times I have seen twrp backups restored on a phone it wasn't taken on with out issue?
Maybe you should actual read things and you wouldn't have an issue with it either?
Or... Care to actually explain the danger rather then just puffing your chest out because you have played with android smart phones for ten years (apparently since before it was released?)

lol!
ok, both @zelendel and @scryan are right..
its highly not recommended to restore a nandroid onto a different phone if it contains system apps. that said, theres also a chance that it would be fine as well. its just that the system apps could not be supported(or could be) by the 2nd device. but even if they arent supported, it wont really harm your device, as you can fix whatever issues by just switching out the apps that are causing issues(then reboot).

scryan said:
Nope, no idea who you are.
All I know is how many times I have seen twrp backups restored on a phone it wasn't taken on with out issue?
Maybe you should actual read things and you wouldn't have an issue with it either?
Or... Care to actually explain the danger rather then just puffing your chest out because you have played with android smart phones for ten years (apparently since before it was released?)
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Well let's start out with the fact that when system apps are loaded the data loaded to is set to one device. By restoring that to another device messes it up and causes all types of issues with the app and system.
Also as stated above not all apps are compatible across devices. Could lead you to an endless bootloop.
See you have me twisted. I don't have to read about it as I do it everyday. As each device is different there is no telling that one thing will work for one but not the other.
As for doing this before android was released? Yes. Who do you think got leaks to run on wm devices before the first nexus was released? Xda and the legendary HD2.
I was modding devices before the first smartphone was even released. Then I became a moderator here. Which is requires a whole lot of learning. Like reading the source and knowing what does what.
Now you are more then welcome to flash someone else's backup, that is up to you but I will tell you that no one that knows what they are doing will do that.

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As for doing this before android was released? Yes. Who do you think got leaks to run on wm devices before the first nexus was released? Xda and the legendary HD2.
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the Dream(G1) was Googles android developer phone before the Nexus. while a lot of people did use and mod the HD2, the G1/Dream was getting most of the developer support.

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the Dream(G1) was Googles android developer phone before the Nexus. while a lot of people did use and mod the HD2, the G1/Dream was getting most of the developer support.
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I wouldn't say most. But it was close indeed. I had them both but focused on the hd2 mostly. God I miss truly open bootloader lol.

zelendel said:
....focused on the hd2 mostly.
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I remember the HD2 as one of the best phone ever made.

zelendel said:
Well let's start out with the fact that when system apps are loaded the data loaded to is set to one device. By restoring that to another device messes it up and causes all types of issues with the app and system.
Also as stated above not all apps are compatible across devices. Could lead you to an endless bootloop.
See you have me twisted. I don't have to read about it as I do it everyday. As each device is different there is no telling that one thing will work for one but not the other.
As for doing this before android was released? Yes. Who do you think got leaks to run on wm devices before the first nexus was released? Xda and the legendary HD2.
I was modding devices before the first smartphone was even released. Then I became a moderator here. Which is requires a whole lot of learning. Like reading the source and knowing what does what.
Now you are more then welcome to flash someone else's backup, that is up to you but I will tell you that no one that knows what they are doing will do that.
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Just wanted to chime in here and say, I agree 1000% that I would never restore a backup from one phone to another, unless I knew for a fact I could "rescue" the phone if it locked up/got fried/ruined from the restore..
And, I have been playing with cell phones since November 1983, the first day cell service became widely available in Chicagoland, and I have been modding/tweaking/hacking them pretty much since then, so I too have "extensive" experience about what may or may not work when doing something like this..
To each his own, but I would never do this..