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Are there any apps that load full maps onto my gtab so I don't need to have a data connection to use my bt gps for navigation? As it is now, I believe Google navigation requires either wifi or tethering to work...
Co-pilot in market.
or you can find a version of motonav (basically igo 8.x) and maps from mobilism.org -- best 3d nav software out there that only requires gps, no data. map sets are ~1-2gb and you can get every single state and pretty much any country in the world now (teleatlas/navteq, mixed or whatever).
sort of tough for newbies to get really into customization, but i was huge into this on my past 2 mio devices, so if you need a hand drop me a line on here, no prob.
Thanks. I just dl'd co-pilot, but it says my trial is over, even though I entered my market order id.
I'll try motonav on my other machine and compare.
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Are there any apps that load full maps onto my gtab so I don't need to have a data connection to use my bt gps for navigation? As it is now, I believe Google navigation requires either wifi or tethering to work...
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I use Co-Pilot. It is in the market, and if you want it for here in the good old USA it only costs $4.99..
Not as refined as a Garmin but it works. There is also NDrive. More expensive, more refined, I have never used it though..
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Thanks. I just dl'd co-pilot, but it says my trial is over, even though I entered my market order id.
I'll try motonav on my other machine and compare.
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I went round and round with Co-Pilot about that. I had it on my phone and had de-activated it but it would not activate on my G tablet. They sent me a link to download directly from them. It worked with my registration info after that.
How hard would it be to get Google navigation setup with an external GPS unit? I'll probably be picking up a GTablet soon, and am wondering how hard it would be to setup it as a navigator. Could it be done (if so, how easily) by hooking it up with a GPS unit? (Yea, it already does what I want the tablet to do, but its 3+ years old and slooooow to run haha). That or I could use the GPS on my phone once I get it running (HTC Vogue).
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How hard would it be to get Google navigation setup with an external GPS unit? I'll probably be picking up a GTablet soon, and am wondering how hard it would be to setup it as a navigator. Could it be done (if so, how easily) by hooking it up with a GPS unit? (Yea, it already does what I want the tablet to do, but its 3+ years old and slooooow to run haha). That or I could use the GPS on my phone once I get it running (HTC Vogue).
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It is not hard to make GPS work with an external unit. Using Google Navigation though requires an internet connection since Google does not store the maps on your device. So you can use an external GPS receiver, and tether your phone for data. Or, there are ways to use the GPS in your phone and tether too. I have not tried it but hear it can be done.
BTW, I still have an ancient HTC Vogue that I run Android on too...
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It is not hard to make GPS work with an external unit. Using Google Navigation though requires an internet connection since Google does not store the maps on your device. So you can use an external GPS receiver, and tether your phone for data. Or, there are ways to use the GPS in your phone and tether too. I have not tried it but hear it can be done.
BTW, I still have an ancient HTC Vogue that I run Android on too...
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Yeah, my vogue has a slow data connection so I haven't bothered with any data-intense apps obviously like Google Nav. Guess I would need to get a different program on the Tab to hook up with the GPS unit itself. Any suggestions (preferable free ones haha?)
And w00t for another VogueDroider on here haha!
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Yeah, my vogue has a slow data connection so I haven't bothered with any data-intense apps obviously like Google Nav. Guess I would need to get a different program on the Tab to hook up with the GPS unit itself. Any suggestions (preferable free ones haha?)
And w00t for another VogueDroider on here haha!
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I would prefer to use Google nav because it works really well. The Vogue does not have wifi though and I have not found a way to tether it using bluetooth. So I use a program called Co-Pilot. It is only $4.99 in the market for the US version but it can be a pain to get activated on the G tablet. ALK who makes the program sent me a link to a non market version that did install with my registration info. It works ok, but not as well as Google nav. Seems to be missing plenty of addresses that are not new and should be there. They do have a way to let them know what is missing but I don't know how often they update.
CoPilot
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Are there any apps that load full maps onto my gtab so I don't need to have a data connection to use my bt gps for navigation? As it is now, I believe Google navigation requires either wifi or tethering to work...
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Yes. I use CoPilot USA,$4.99 from the Market. You can download any or all US State maps for offline use. I use my DroidX as my BT receiver and it works like a charm. . . . I, too had trouble with activation. Had to send an email & call support Toni get it resolved.
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I would prefer to use Google nav because it works really well. The Vogue does not have wifi though and I have not found a way to tether it using bluetooth. So I use a program called Co-Pilot. It is only $4.99 in the market for the US version but it can be a pain to get activated on the G tablet. ALK who makes the program sent me a link to a non market version that did install with my registration info. It works ok, but not as well as Google nav. Seems to be missing plenty of addresses that are not new and should be there. They do have a way to let them know what is missing but I don't know how often they update.
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Do you still have the link by any chance? I've tried 3 times on 2 gtabs, and each time it gives me error 703, my trial is over (even though I never took a trial).
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Do you still have the link by any chance? I've tried 3 times on 2 gtabs, and each time it gives me error 703, my trial is over (even though I never took a trial).
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Sprdtyf350, I am having the same problem could you please share the link with me too.
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Sprdtyf350, I am having the same problem could you please share the link with me too.
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PM sent.
I don't know if it is supposed to be a link for everyone or not or I would just post it.
No Joy with CoPilot
I purchased CoPilot through the Google Market place ($4.99 for USA) but no joy in installing it. Same 703 errors. Finally got through to someone in tech support (emails went unanswered) but their advice (basically wipe program and start again while downloading the maps separately onto my PC and then into the g-tablet) still resulted in errors. Since the holiday is coming up, this will probably not get solved in time for next weeks vacation/test run.
Oh well. For five bucks I wasn't expecting a lot and my MIO unit is still operational. Just hoping for some text to speech voice turns from my g-tablet. I will poke again after the holidays. Seems like a combination of the date not resetting or hard coded in the downloaded apk or authentification not getting out (since it is a wifi only machine; the program is expecting the telephone).
Unless anyone has any other suggestions?
success install after rom uprade
I installed latest ROM upgrade (3.1.1) and was able to get co-pilot installed and working. Combination of wiping user data and alk receiving gapps sales information.
No luck with John or Lisa. Anyone with hints for getting the voice portion working.
how do i uninstall maps v5.1 on vegan-tab? the option to uninstall is greyed out. i have maps 5.0 from one of the threads thats supposed to fix 'location detection'. thx
You could use root explorer and delete /system/app/Maps.apk and then install 5.0 but I reckon you could probably just install 5.0 over 5.1 without removing the APK, though I may be wrong.
thx for reply, on your advice i was able to overwrite it to 5.0, but im still getting location temporarily unavailable. ugh. ill keep trying to find a solution if anyone knows it plz post, thx guys.
Where is it supposed to be getting the location from? GPS??
Wifi, just like my iPod
I think Maps needs GPS or 3G for location.
GPS wont work unless its paired via BT with one of the methods posted on this forum.
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GPS on this device by itself won't work because it's not built onto the hardware.
not interested in gps addons, and i know the device doesnt have gps built in, from some of the other threads ive read there was a workaround or fix for the location problem. at this point im not willing to try them because its beyond my scope. but thx, if i wanted gps info i would have used that to search. entirely useless post, useless useless useless. go ahead and close the thread, as i said ive found some fixes. but as for my first post about uninstalling maps, poster 2 fixed that. problem solved. thx.
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GPS wont work unless its paired via BT with one of the methods posted on this forum.
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GPS on this device by itself won't work because it's not built onto the hardware.
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not even what i was asking about. i just want location, not gps. the ability for some apps to know what city the device lives in. its wifi only not gps. works on the ipod just fine. get it? dont post unless you have something useful to say.
I'm getting sick of ignorant people saying stuff like "oh yeah your GPS works as long as you have a data or wifi signal."
NO. THAT IS NOT GPS. That is the cheap triangulation signal method via cell towers that just about ANY phone can do. If you don't know the difference between GPS and cell tower triangulation then do not bother contributing to this discussion.
Real GPS uses satellites. You know, the ones in space. Nothing else.
Tomtoms don't use a cellular signal, they use GPS.
If you have real GPS, you can pinpoint almost perfectly where you are in realtime, and even accurately track your velocity, so long as there is a clear line of sight to the satellites. If your location is "bouncing back and forth", then you do not have GPS enabled. Period.
I would like to know, once and for all, was HTC lying on their phone specifications in saying that the HD7 has GPS or not?
My old HTC Touch HD had it. Why on earth does this HD7 not seem to have it?
Has anyone here ever actually managed to verify that a true GPS receiver even exists in this phone?
There is a GPS reciever in the phone or it wont be able to pinpoint your exact location in Bing Maps.
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There is a GPS reciever in the phone or it wont be able to pinpoint your exact location in Bing Maps.
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I have never had bing maps pinpoint my "exact" location though, only maybe to the nearest 20 metres. And the pointer doesn't seem to move as I move, which suggests to me it isn't using satellites at all...
You seem to be confused. To clear up your misunderstanding, read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS
FWIW, I use the GPS radio on my daily 6km runs. My old Holux devices (CF-Card, USB external), used to take 30-60 seconds to grab a 3D fix. My HD7 does it in just 15-seconds. If a data connection is available, AGPS will acquire a 'quick fix' first, then based on that position determine which satellites it should look for, elminating the old trial and error method. Hence, a 'true' gps connection is acheived immediately after the AGPS system does it's job.
Bing Maps is just simply a built-in GPS client for the hardware radio and firmware.
To those concerned about data roaming charges, a data connection is not required to use the GPS radio, but is necessary to use downloaded maps, etc. As the newly released Navigon system stores maps on your device (1.6-2.5gb!) it will run independent of a data connection.
Cheers
I understand perfectly what A-GPS is. However I have yet to see my HTC HD7 actually acquire a satellite signal.
Is there anything in the phone that actually indicates when it has acquired a signal from GPS satellites?
What I believe to be the case is that this phone never actually uses GPS signals, at any stage. I believe it simply uses the cellular towers to triangulate your position, and you never get anything more accurate than that.
I would happily be proven wrong. Or if you could show me somewhere on the phone which says "now receiving from (6) satellites" like my old HTC used to do, I will happily stand corrected.
Bing maps has never ever been "GPS accurate" in my experience, and I have had the phone for just under a year now.
What about the Navigon select app that some German carriers implement on their HD7s, isn't that satellite GPS signal ?
i'm using navigon navigator,that show me speed,exat position,and many other info:hd7 HAS A GPS RICEVITOR!!!
I used Bing maps navigation the other day to find a junk yard about 2 hours from where I live and it was pretty accurate. Even merging onto another highway showed the cursor right where I was. After the initial routing pretty sure I was out of signal since I had no service way out in the sticks yet Bing maps never lost the route. I wa pretty satisfied.
But your right real gps shouldn't need a data signal at all like navigon select. Maps are stored locally.
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I understand perfectly what A-GPS is. However I have yet to see my HTC HD7 actually acquire a satellite signal.
Is there anything in the phone that actually indicates when it has acquired a signal from GPS satellites?
What I believe to be the case is that this phone never actually uses GPS signals, at any stage. I believe it simply uses the cellular towers to triangulate your position, and you never get anything more accurate than that.
I would happily be proven wrong. Or if you could show me somewhere on the phone which says "now receiving from (6) satellites" like my old HTC used to do, I will happily stand corrected.
Bing maps has never ever been "GPS accurate" in my experience, and I have had the phone for just under a year now.
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I'm going to back this post up 100% on my end. I stand outside of my building and have NEVER had my bing map... and it shows me 3 or 4 blocks away from my actual location. I've actually had this question sitting on my end for quite some time now.
I, personally, don't believe that the HTC can be used as a true GPS. It just uses the cell towers like mentioned above.
If somebody could actually prove this, other than saying... IT HAS GPS BECAUSE IT SHOWED ME DIRECTIONS AND ACCURATE DIRECTIONS TOO.... Turn by turn directions though Bing is fine.. but it's still not a true GPS location being used.
Would downloading a GPS program like the 35$ garmin one actually give me a different reading on my map? Would it actually work if I have no cellular signal like a true GPS, and work off of a GPS signal?
@NachoNut and @Heofz: Do the apps in the marketplace that provide system information tell you if the phone is using triangulation or actual GPS? You could also try tweeting @windowsphone, @winphonesupport, @attcustomercare, or @htc asking about it. They're generally pretty responsive
I can't verify the exact GPS hardware, but the "system view" app from the WP7 marketplace shows "GPS location" on my HD7 and reads out to the 100th's place in latitude and longitude and ALTITUDE. You would not be able to read altitude via cell tower triangulation.
I think the issue gets confused because many of the location aware programs will use the triangulation method first while waiting for the GPS to get a reading. For instance, in Bing maps, your location is shown in a wide circle but as GPS locks in the circle shrinks down to a much more accurate location.
Even AGPS cannot get down to +/- a few meters without other outside assistance or references though.
download tools for wp7 app from the marketplace. This has a gps reciever app. Put your phone in airplane mode, and then check if you get a location... I'd do it, but my phone is currently updating to mango.
Not entirely sure what this rant is about to be honest. Just because bing maps is sh!t (which surprise surprise we all know...) doesn't mean that the inbuilt GPS receiver in the phone is useless?! Have you tried Gmaps yet?
As an alternative, why not download WinPhone Info for Mango and it will give you your exact location.
I use the GPS functionality quite often for work, because I have to see lots of different customers in London, on foot. Anyone who knows London, knows how narrow the streets are and how tall the buildings are. Worst case scenario for GPS, yet it works every time and it's very quick to find my location. Even though I think the rest of the phone is underwhelming, this is actually one of the features that works fine. If only Bing was up to Google Maps standards!
I'd like to know the best positioning for the handset it's set for 'line of sight view'.
I go cycling round the park often and I must admit it does not seem as accurate as it did with my old HD2. Could it just be down to construction.
It's the rom. I switch to Telstra rom and my gps is working fine now. The gps on tmobile rom never be able to track my location
Mine used GPS as it came from T-Mobile... in Airplane mode it received the location etc,. but maps can't update because they need a data signal to load their data. It does indeed have a TRUE GPS satellite receiver in it.
Shortly after the mango update, using the free GPSInfo app I managed to get it to tell me it had acquired a satellite signal rather than data only. It gave me altitude readings etc as well as accurate speed info.
Hurrah!
Now all I need is software equivalent/better than tomtom and I'll be a very happy bunny
I was using Navigon Select 2.0 / 3.0 on my HD7 on my holiday to Spain during the summer; for a whole two weeks I had the data connection disabled, and there was no phone reception in some of the mountaineous areas, yet the GPS functioned absolutely perfectly, getting the position quickly and accurately. So yeah there is definitely a proper GPS in the HD7.
My own recommendation for navigation on the HD7 (whether you have access to data or not) is Navigon Europe / USA (ie version 4 of Navigon Select). It's a bit pricey but is price-matched with proper navigation apps on iOS and Android. It does all the usual offline navigation that you would expect with proper POIs, rerouting, etc, but if you let it at your data connection it will also retrieve traffic data, Google Local business results, etc. You can also pin destinations to your Start screen (Home, for example). Absolutely brilliant.
pin point location works fine for me on bing... shows my house on arial view... and while on the move bingel and gmaps both work...
i dont understand why ppl are complaning..
Me too
This has a GPS, but it doesn't lock on very well (or sometimes ever) for me. I am using the T-Mobile version so that may be the problem. If you use the GPSInfo app, it will tell you if you are using AGPS or if you have actually acquired satellites. I have been able to acquire satellites a couple of times, but mostly it just sits there on AGPS mode. I was starting to really like this phone, but the GPS thing might just be a deal breaker for me.
The ifixit teardown indicated the possibility of a GPS capable chip in the 7" model.
Anyone load a GPS app and see if you get any results?
Thanks!
Google Maps location doesn't work, and I have been unsuccessful sideloading any of the GPS apps I have available. All fail on install.
What about one of the free GPS apps on the Amazon app store, like:
http://www.amazon.com/EclipSim-GPS-...ps&ie=UTF8&qid=1348158531&sr=1-1&keywords=gps
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What about one of the free GPS apps on the Amazon app store, like:
http://www.amazon.com/EclipSim-GPS-...ps&ie=UTF8&qid=1348158531&sr=1-1&keywords=gps
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Hmm well interestingly enough that one installed. It took a while, but it gave me a coordinate read out as well (see screenshot, I blanked out my location but you can see what I mean). I'm not familiar with that app, so I don't know if it uses Wifi at all for determining location. It does have an option for "do not launch if GPS is not enabled" though and that is set by default. Yet, it works. You have my wondering now, I'll keep playing with some of the other apps I'm a bit more familiar with and see if I can get them to install.
The OS build might not have adequate drivers to run the GPS. This might get fixed once we get a different ROM....someday.
I have google maps up and running, though I believe it is functioning off wifi location, the location is off a little. I installed GPS satellite app and it launches, gives me data but does not show that it is picking up any satellites.
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I have google maps up and running, though I believe it is functioning off wifi location, the location is off a little. I installed GPS satellite app and it launches, gives me data but does not show that it is picking up any satellites.
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I got GPS Test Plus installed and see the same. It doesn't find any satellites, but it is indeed finding my location based on Wifi. Acurracy of only about 200 feet. Think we are SOL for now.
UPDATE: I am playing with it more (it has a handy green light when it has GPS signal) that is yellow with WIFI off, and Green with it on. Seems to indicate it only uses Wifi for location.
even if gps is on the chip, maybe there's no antenna ?
So far no joy on getting any sort of GPS working. I bought a TomTom BlueTooth GPS module and it will not pair with the Fire HD. I get a message saying that the BlueTooth device is not compatible. None of the apps to make it work will even install.
Amazon apparently went all out in preventing people from using GPS. From what I understand the Nook will allow you to use a BlueTooth GPS.
FWIW, I tried using Google Maps on the way to and from work the last few days, and it is starting to get pretty good at finding my location via WiFi. Most of the time it was showing me within a block of my actual location, and sometimes it was actually tracking me accurately, even showing me driving up to an intersection and stopping right at the intersection. It seems to get better every time I take the same route.
I did discover that the Fire HD has a magnetic compass and accelerometer. But the compass is not very reliable.
I have a sneaky suspicion that there were some lawyers involved in these decisions...
Amazon took it really out of their way to lock down their tablets. They don't want people to use anything that doesn't rely on their services. Such as maps, either it be google, Bing, tomtom, anything not made by them. Amazon never activated voice search, the potential is there (apk in system files) but until they make it used through their ecosystem, KFHD will probably never see it. They even make it annoying to change the keyboard. Supposedly according too their website, BT only works with headphones. That is a complete limitation and annoyance.
As for GPS, I can see it somewhat irrelevant on a device that is wifi only and was omitted, though I do enjoy it on my N7. Something, I believe it was hootsuite would constantly annoy me about location services when I had it turned off, as they claimed it was turned off via twitter and had no options and I had it off in my twitter. Location services on the KFHD killed my battery for some unknown reason.
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As for GPS, I can see it somewhat irrelevant on a device that is wifi only and was omitted, though I do enjoy it on my N7.
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How so? With Maps you can download your entire city to use offline. If you start Navigation while online, and give it a couple of minutes to cache the info, it will take you all the way to your destination offline. I tested this on a 5 hour trip, and the audible turn-by-turn took me all the way to the destination, even though in some places the map itself was blank, and it didn't know the name of the street or exit. "Take the exit on the right" instead of "Take exit 6" It was even able to do some limited rerouting offline (which is something fairly new)
Besides, now I have a MiFi and a phone with a portable HotSpot. .On long trips, however, I turn off the MiFi while underway unless I need a major reroute, or need to find something. On a long trip a few weeks ago, my wife called from our tax accountant's office and needed some info from an old bank statement. I was out in the middle of nowhere in Alabama, and I though I was going to have to drive to Birmingham to find a Wells Fargo. So I fired up the MiFi, and asked my N7 "Google...where is the nearest Wells Fargo?" and it found one in a small town less than 10 minutes away and led me straight there.
Driving in Atlanta drives me insane. Now with the MiFi and Google Maps, I can see where the stop-and-go traffic jams are and get around them.
Irrelevant??? Not hardly!
I REALLY wanted the GPS to work on the Fire HD because the pitiful speakers on the N7 aren't loud enough to hear turn-by-turn directions in heavy traffic or heavy rain, or while the radio is playing. And the washed out screen on the N7 makes it hard to make out the streets (white and yellow on off-white) They stand out much better on the Fire HD's screen.
Not everyone tethers data through their phone or device. Most cell phone plans still require additional payment services. I refuse to pay another $35-$40 a month just to tether data. If I want to use GPS, then I use my phone or my Garmin Nuvi, though I prefer google maps since they are mostly up to date.
Caching maps, ok, but you need to know exactly where you want to go. Without data, the GPS is useless unless you are using a strict GPS app to determine location only. Amazon took it out to reduce costs. While it's nice to have, it's irrelevant to their entertainment device, they don't want you to use maps anyways.
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Would it be possible to make a hack to enable spp bluetooth profile on KFHD. Because the tomtom bluetooth gps receiver uses that profile.
I have to completely agree with drhanley i wish i could have at least bluetooth gps on the kindle fire hd.
Drhanley have you seen in the android market bluetooth spp app make an app from the market could enable the spp profile needed for tomtom gps receiver ????????
Using verygreen's emmc install 6/24 I paired with my SirfIII Bluetooth.
Did not work initially until I installed this;
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImRlLm1vYmlsZWouYnRncHMiXQ..
A blue tooth provider. There's others (one on source forge) but this works for me.
Hope this helps.
As of the last update of this app, it works on stock too. I had it working with my BT-359, but I lost that on my vacation ( just this weekend )! I just purchased a replacement off of eBay. Sigh....
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As of the last update of this app, it works on stock too. I had it working with my BT-359, but I lost that on my vacation ( just this weekend )! I just purchased a replacement off of eBay. Sigh....
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I have a GPSlim236. On stock. It pairs but it seems there's absolutely no BT activity. I have checked Use Mock Locations. Nothing seems to happen. Any hints?
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I have a GPSlim236. On stock. It pairs but it seems there's absolutely no BT activity. I have checked Use Mock Locations. Nothing seems to happen. Any hints?
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Just to be clear I need to know the exact steps you are taking when trying to enable GPS. They should be:
1) Have Bluetooth GPS Provider loaded.
2) Have Allow Mock Locations and GPS Satellites enabled.
3) Pair the bluetooth GPS.
4) In Bluetooth GPS Provider choose your GPS, and in its settings make sure the GPS type is set to SiRF III ( or whatever your actual GPS type is ).
5) Start Bluetooth GPS Provider ( I also enable Bluetooth switching in the app, but that is my preference since I am currently using no other bluetooth devices ).
6) Use GPS applications.
Hopefully I haven't left anything out...
But as they say, it works for me.
I think step 2 is where the problem lies. I enable mock locations under the developer options. Where is enable GPS satellites? It is usually under Location but I only have Wi-Fi and Use Google...
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Just to be clear I need to know the exact steps you are taking when trying to enable GPS. They should be:
1) Have Bluetooth GPS Provider loaded.
2) Have Allow Mock Locations and GPS Satellites enabled.
3) Pair the bluetooth GPS.
4) In Bluetooth GPS Provider choose your GPS, and in its settings make sure the GPS type is set to SiRF III ( or whatever your actual GPS type is ).
5) Start Bluetooth GPS Provider ( I also enable Bluetooth switching in the app, but that is my preference since I am currently using no other bluetooth devices ).
6) Use GPS applications.
Hopefully I haven't left anything out...
But as they say, it works for me.
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m509272 said:
I think step 2 is where the problem lies. I enable mock locations under the developer options. Where is enable GPS satellites? It is usually under Location but I only have Wi-Fi and Use Google...
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I am so sorry, I had brainfreeze. On stock you need to do the:
Extras - includes enabling Unknown Sources - (rev3 - 5/6/2013)
From the | [CWM/ROOT/EXTRAS] HD/HDplus Stock Root and other Mods - via CWM flashable zips | thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613
to enable GPS permissions, and as a bonus sideloading of apks and userinit. I did this mod on my stock with no adverse effects. Of course, mileage may vary, so don't forget to do a backup if you do this as well.
This is where the problem lies. I have tried flashing that twice. looks like it flashes ok on CWM but GPS Satellite option never appears. Do I need to root first?
That thread seems to indicate you do not need to root but perhaps in this case it is incorrect
"All of the zips below can be installed and work without the Universal Root if you don't want to be rooted. Just copy any additional zips to the SD while it is inserted in the PC, remove from the PC, insert into the Nook again and boot to the CWM and install per the previous paragraph".
Thanks for your help so far!
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I am so sorry, I had brainfreeze. On stock you need to do the:
Extras - includes enabling Unknown Sources - (rev3 - 5/6/2013)
From the | [CWM/ROOT/EXTRAS] HD/HDplus Stock Root and other Mods - via CWM flashable zips | thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613
to enable GPS permissions, and as a bonus sideloading of apks and userinit. I did this mod on my stock with no adverse effects. Of course, mileage may vary, so don't forget to do a backup if you do this as well.
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This is where the problem lies. I have tried flashing that twice. looks like it flashes ok on CWM but GPS Satellite option never appears. Do I need to root first?
That thread seems to indicate you do not need to root but perhaps in this case it is incorrect
"All of the zips below can be installed and work without the Universal Root if you don't want to be rooted. Just copy any additional zips to the SD while it is inserted in the PC, remove from the PC, insert into the Nook again and boot to the CWM and install per the previous paragraph".
Thanks for your help so far!
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Thanks for putting up with my brainfreeze.
Okay, revised steps, since you already loaded the 'Extras' and enabled 'Mock Locations'.
1) Pair Bluetooth GPS.
2) In Bluetooth GPS Provider choose your GPS receiver, and then press 'START'.
3) In Bluetooth GPS Provider 'Preferences' set GPS Type to SiRF ( if that is your type ).
4) Use GPS apps.
Everything else is just and illusion...
RageAgain said:
As of the last update of this app, it works on stock too. I had it working with my BT-359, but I lost that on my vacation ( just this weekend )! I just purchased a replacement off of eBay. Sigh....
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I'm looking at acquiring the BT359 and have a few questions if anyone is still following this...
Is there any reason to chose Bluetooth GPS Provider over the Globalsat's GPSInfo app?
Am I assuming correctly that this can be pointed at G-Maps?
Have you heard of or used any navigational apps that work?
TIA!
Navigator
catseyenu said:
I'm looking at acquiring the BT359 and have a few questions if anyone is still following this...
Is there any reason to chose Bluetooth GPS Provider over the Globalsat's GPSInfo app?
Am I assuming correctly that this can be pointed at G-Maps?
Have you heard of or used any navigational apps that work?
TIA!
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I haven't tried GPSInfo yet, I need to look into that.
I use Bluetooth GPS Provider with MapFactor: GPS Navigation, which is my new favorite.
It works on an unrooted tablet ( my new one - a Hannspree SN14T71, I know, huge ) with no built in GPS support, as well as my Nook HD+, which is rooted and on CM11.
RageAgain said:
I haven't tried GPSInfo yet, I need to look into that.
I use Bluetooth GPS Provider with MapFactor: GPS Navigation, which is my new favorite.
It works on an unrooted tablet ( my new one - a Hannspree SN14T71, I know, huge ) with no built in GPS support, as well as my Nook HD+, which is rooted and on CM11.
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Much appreciated RageAgain.
After reading up a little more on these 2 apps I noticed Bluetooth GPS Provider has more downloads, better reviews, recent updates and is noted to work with Google maps.
The manufacturer's app, GPSInfo hasn't been updated since 2011...
May I ask how sensitive the BT359 is in regard to placement of the device in an auto?
Would I be able to hide in in the console or glove box & still acquire position?
Also, I see I can use this on my phone as well... how is the trade off on battery between using the Bluetooth radio and built in GPS on a phone?
Thanks again!
catseyenu said:
Much appreciated RageAgain.
After reading up a little more on these 2 apps I noticed Bluetooth GPS Provider has more downloads, better reviews, recent updates and is noted to work with Google maps.
The manufacturer's app, GPSInfo hasn't been updated since 2011...
May I ask how sensitive the BT359 is in regard to placement of the device in an auto?
Would I be able to hide in in the console or glove box & still acquire position?
Also, I see I can use this on my phone as well... how is the trade off on battery between using the Bluetooth radio and built in GPS on a phone?
Thanks again!
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As to sensitivity, I would say it is pretty good. You need line of sight, so you can't have metal in the way. I would say try it, as different vehicles have different specs as to metals and metallicized plastics.
Aside from running your own tests for power utilization per device, or looking up the chip specs, I would look for reviews for the particular device in question. I know this, I have Galaxy Players and the built in GPS is crap, so power consumption doesn't even come into the equation for those devices. On the other hand, I have an LG smartphone that I got cheap and even though I don't have phone service for it it works well as a stand alone device where GPS is concerned.
I mainly got my BT359s ( yes, I bought another to replace the one I couldn't find, and then my mom found it so I have two ) to use with tablets with no built in GPS.