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Google Maps - Not Finding My Location

Searched the forum and couldn't find an answer.
I'm on a Sprint Vogue having trouble using Google Maps with any of the ROMs I've tried (Myn's Donut & Eclaire and Incubus's Eclaire).
Usually I just get: "Your Current Location Is Temporarily Unavailable."
I have temporary luck about every 15th reboot and then it stops working again after a few minutes.
Using the GPS Status app, I'm able to get Lat/Lon info so I know my GPS is working.
Any suggestions for something I need to be doing or enabling?
Thanks,
Jason

Are you installed on NAND or SD? If SD, does it work in WinMo? I personally have no trouble with it installed on SD with Incubus' latest Froyo (or any build I've used).
Also, where are you using it? Big cities with tall building can make it tough to get a signal (in case you weren't already aware).

strange, i could never get the my location right when i used to be on winmo, but no probs with android these days. i use myn's warm donut on sprint vogue.
some often, easily ignored things you might want to check: have you set your location in your google account? maybe your data connection halts when gps is launched? installaion problems - both android and/or gps? if installed on sd, bad sectors? perhaps you need to update google maps? idk.. just speculating

Assuming, your GPS is not broken and it worked under WM, move to a different location.
I get that message, when I'm in a specific location in my building.

Everybody, his gps works, he can see his lat and long...
Your best bet IMO is this response
probean said:
some often, easily ignored things you might want to check: have you set your location in your google account? maybe your data connection halts when gps is launched? installaion problems - both android and/or gps? if installed on sd, bad sectors? perhaps you need to update google maps? idk.. just speculating
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Just to clarify for some of the questions:
Yeah, GPS is definitely reporting correct Lat/Long - confirmed by plugging the data into Google Maps on a desktop in various locations (work/home).
GPS worked just fine in WinMo.
Oh, and this is NAND.
Google Maps not finding my location seems to have no bearing on my whereabouts - in my car, at home, at work, standing in a parking lot... it's the same wherever I am.
I'll re-try those suggestions when I get a chance - thanks. Maybe I did miss something.
-Jason

Just an update on this issue:
No matter what I tried I was unable to convince any Android build to make Google Maps find my location.
So I re-flashed to back to Win Mobile (yuck). Downloaded Google Maps. Found my location. Re-flashed to Android (FroYo). And now Google Maps in Android finds my location just fine.
Not sure what could have caused it to stop working in the first place. And definitely not looking forward to the next time it stops finding my location.
-editcandy

Editcandy said:
Just an update on this issue:
No matter what I tried I was unable to convince any Android build to make Google Maps find my location.
So I re-flashed to back to Win Mobile (yuck). Downloaded Google Maps. Found my location. Re-flashed to Android (FroYo). And now Google Maps in Android finds my location just fine.
Not sure what could have caused it to stop working in the first place. And definitely not looking forward to the next time it stops finding my location.
-editcandy
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that is odd. Did you update your radio at all to a newer version that might have helped?

Yeah, weird.
No. I'm running the standard Sprint radio which I think is x.x.30.

Navigation without data?

Are there any apps that load full maps onto my gtab so I don't need to have a data connection to use my bt gps for navigation? As it is now, I believe Google navigation requires either wifi or tethering to work...

Co-pilot in market.

or you can find a version of motonav (basically igo 8.x) and maps from mobilism.org -- best 3d nav software out there that only requires gps, no data. map sets are ~1-2gb and you can get every single state and pretty much any country in the world now (teleatlas/navteq, mixed or whatever).
sort of tough for newbies to get really into customization, but i was huge into this on my past 2 mio devices, so if you need a hand drop me a line on here, no prob.

Thanks. I just dl'd co-pilot, but it says my trial is over, even though I entered my market order id.
I'll try motonav on my other machine and compare.

nonissan said:
Are there any apps that load full maps onto my gtab so I don't need to have a data connection to use my bt gps for navigation? As it is now, I believe Google navigation requires either wifi or tethering to work...
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I use Co-Pilot. It is in the market, and if you want it for here in the good old USA it only costs $4.99..
Not as refined as a Garmin but it works. There is also NDrive. More expensive, more refined, I have never used it though..

nonissan said:
Thanks. I just dl'd co-pilot, but it says my trial is over, even though I entered my market order id.
I'll try motonav on my other machine and compare.
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I went round and round with Co-Pilot about that. I had it on my phone and had de-activated it but it would not activate on my G tablet. They sent me a link to download directly from them. It worked with my registration info after that.

How hard would it be to get Google navigation setup with an external GPS unit? I'll probably be picking up a GTablet soon, and am wondering how hard it would be to setup it as a navigator. Could it be done (if so, how easily) by hooking it up with a GPS unit? (Yea, it already does what I want the tablet to do, but its 3+ years old and slooooow to run haha). That or I could use the GPS on my phone once I get it running (HTC Vogue).

M 5hizzle said:
How hard would it be to get Google navigation setup with an external GPS unit? I'll probably be picking up a GTablet soon, and am wondering how hard it would be to setup it as a navigator. Could it be done (if so, how easily) by hooking it up with a GPS unit? (Yea, it already does what I want the tablet to do, but its 3+ years old and slooooow to run haha). That or I could use the GPS on my phone once I get it running (HTC Vogue).
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It is not hard to make GPS work with an external unit. Using Google Navigation though requires an internet connection since Google does not store the maps on your device. So you can use an external GPS receiver, and tether your phone for data. Or, there are ways to use the GPS in your phone and tether too. I have not tried it but hear it can be done.
BTW, I still have an ancient HTC Vogue that I run Android on too...

Sprdtyf350 said:
It is not hard to make GPS work with an external unit. Using Google Navigation though requires an internet connection since Google does not store the maps on your device. So you can use an external GPS receiver, and tether your phone for data. Or, there are ways to use the GPS in your phone and tether too. I have not tried it but hear it can be done.
BTW, I still have an ancient HTC Vogue that I run Android on too...
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Yeah, my vogue has a slow data connection so I haven't bothered with any data-intense apps obviously like Google Nav. Guess I would need to get a different program on the Tab to hook up with the GPS unit itself. Any suggestions (preferable free ones haha?)
And w00t for another VogueDroider on here haha!

M 5hizzle said:
Yeah, my vogue has a slow data connection so I haven't bothered with any data-intense apps obviously like Google Nav. Guess I would need to get a different program on the Tab to hook up with the GPS unit itself. Any suggestions (preferable free ones haha?)
And w00t for another VogueDroider on here haha!
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I would prefer to use Google nav because it works really well. The Vogue does not have wifi though and I have not found a way to tether it using bluetooth. So I use a program called Co-Pilot. It is only $4.99 in the market for the US version but it can be a pain to get activated on the G tablet. ALK who makes the program sent me a link to a non market version that did install with my registration info. It works ok, but not as well as Google nav. Seems to be missing plenty of addresses that are not new and should be there. They do have a way to let them know what is missing but I don't know how often they update.

CoPilot
nonissan said:
Are there any apps that load full maps onto my gtab so I don't need to have a data connection to use my bt gps for navigation? As it is now, I believe Google navigation requires either wifi or tethering to work...
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Yes. I use CoPilot USA,$4.99 from the Market. You can download any or all US State maps for offline use. I use my DroidX as my BT receiver and it works like a charm. . . . I, too had trouble with activation. Had to send an email & call support Toni get it resolved.

Sprdtyf350 said:
I would prefer to use Google nav because it works really well. The Vogue does not have wifi though and I have not found a way to tether it using bluetooth. So I use a program called Co-Pilot. It is only $4.99 in the market for the US version but it can be a pain to get activated on the G tablet. ALK who makes the program sent me a link to a non market version that did install with my registration info. It works ok, but not as well as Google nav. Seems to be missing plenty of addresses that are not new and should be there. They do have a way to let them know what is missing but I don't know how often they update.
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Do you still have the link by any chance? I've tried 3 times on 2 gtabs, and each time it gives me error 703, my trial is over (even though I never took a trial).

nonissan said:
Do you still have the link by any chance? I've tried 3 times on 2 gtabs, and each time it gives me error 703, my trial is over (even though I never took a trial).
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Sent you a PM

Sprdtyf350, I am having the same problem could you please share the link with me too.

Mod57 said:
Sprdtyf350, I am having the same problem could you please share the link with me too.
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PM sent.
I don't know if it is supposed to be a link for everyone or not or I would just post it.

No Joy with CoPilot
I purchased CoPilot through the Google Market place ($4.99 for USA) but no joy in installing it. Same 703 errors. Finally got through to someone in tech support (emails went unanswered) but their advice (basically wipe program and start again while downloading the maps separately onto my PC and then into the g-tablet) still resulted in errors. Since the holiday is coming up, this will probably not get solved in time for next weeks vacation/test run.
Oh well. For five bucks I wasn't expecting a lot and my MIO unit is still operational. Just hoping for some text to speech voice turns from my g-tablet. I will poke again after the holidays. Seems like a combination of the date not resetting or hard coded in the downloaded apk or authentification not getting out (since it is a wifi only machine; the program is expecting the telephone).
Unless anyone has any other suggestions?

success install after rom uprade
I installed latest ROM upgrade (3.1.1) and was able to get co-pilot installed and working. Combination of wiping user data and alk receiving gapps sales information.
No luck with John or Lisa. Anyone with hints for getting the voice portion working.

GTab navigation - Setup??

Ok, I understand the need GPS, etc... however, what seems to be overlooked is how is someone who is attempting to do this while in their car where the isn't wireless is going to make this work.
It seems to me that you need 4 things to make this work.
GTablet (duh)
GPS Receiver - BlueTooth for now (maybe USB someday)
Navigation App - Google Maps?? Maybe something else? Suggestions?
3G/4G card - how else could you get updates while moving?
It seems to me that without a 3G/4G card, you're GTab would have to all the entire map data loaded on the device - like a real GPS.
I'm not doing this now but someday I may. Did I get this right or did I miss something? Maybe someone is really doing this would chime in.

There are several threads about using your GTablet as a GPS Unit but I think you've pretty much outlined the requirements. I am using the TomTom Bluetooth GPS transponder, several pieces of software (some purchased and some free) and a paid app called Co-Pilot that has the maps and downloads them to my sdcard (since I don't have a 3G/4G option). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847936&highlight=GPS

I have reviewed quite a few threads. It just seemed that no thread acutally said you need all of this. Lots of thread on GPS, a few on apps, a few about 3G/4G cards. I was just trying to have a HowTo do it and keep it in one thread.

This thread seems to be a pretty explicit "how to do it"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=852847&highlight=gps

Bluegps help please

I'm trying to connect to my magellan maestro gps unit. In settings, the bluetooth says paired but not connected. This is where bluegps comes in, right? In bluegps, I chose the magellan unit and then right below it I pressed it to try to connect. But everytime I try to connect, it disconnects saying "Cannot start: Too many connection problems".
Yes, the maestro unit has pairing and connection on. It recognizes the gtab as vegan 5.1.1.
What settings in the bluegps I need to do?

I was having similar issues with the application, so based on another thread, I tried out Googoo Android's Bluetooth GPS. It's available on the Market, but you'll have to sideload it from another device or find the APK (posted on another thread here). That application worked much better for me.

I use 'Bluetooth GPS Provider'
https://market.android.com/details?id=de.mobilej.btgps&feature=search_result
Has been the most stable for me.
If you can't load from market, here is a copy in my DropBox.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9669866/BluetoothGPSprovider.apk

Figured out what's wrong. After reading around the net, figured out that the gps unit I have only allows bluetooth connection to transfer data files. GPS signal won't share.

Thanks Zaphod-Beeblebrox
Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
I use 'Bluetooth GPS Provider'
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Has been the most stable for me.
If you can't load from market, here is a copy in my DropBox.
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You're awesome. I've been searching around for a couple of days now trying to get my bluetooth G-Sat gps to pair with my new gtab. After grabbing 'Bluetooth GPS Provider' from your dropbox and installing via adb, I'm now able to use the gps puck, thanks.

Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
I use 'Bluetooth GPS Provider'
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I've actually had that app cause my tablet to freeze twice now and I had to force a reboot (tap the hell out of the power button). TnT Lite 4.4.0. I'm wondering if it's an isolated issue or no because before the thing froze, it was working rather well.

i got my bt gps unit working in google maps.. but that is no good driving around. and cannot get sygic aura or mobile maps to work.

lgkahn said:
i got my bt gps unit working in google maps.. but that is no good driving around. and cannot get sygic aura or mobile maps to work.
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Here are a lot of threads about Bluetooth GPS and need of data connection when using Google maps.
Therefore you need GPS software with pre-loaded maps, like CoPilot.
It's on the market around $5.00 for USA.
I use it and love it!! LOL

Papa Midnight said:
I've actually had that app cause my tablet to freeze twice now and I had to force a reboot (tap the hell out of the power button). TnT Lite 4.4.0. I'm wondering if it's an isolated issue or no because before the thing froze, it was working rather well.
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I use BlueGPS with TNTL 4.2.5. Works with no hiccups....
Possibly different kernel??

Bluetooth GPS working

Using verygreen's emmc install 6/24 I paired with my SirfIII Bluetooth.
Did not work initially until I installed this;
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImRlLm1vYmlsZWouYnRncHMiXQ..
A blue tooth provider. There's others (one on source forge) but this works for me.
Hope this helps.

As of the last update of this app, it works on stock too. I had it working with my BT-359, but I lost that on my vacation ( just this weekend )! I just purchased a replacement off of eBay. Sigh....

RageAgain said:
As of the last update of this app, it works on stock too. I had it working with my BT-359, but I lost that on my vacation ( just this weekend )! I just purchased a replacement off of eBay. Sigh....
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I have a GPSlim236. On stock. It pairs but it seems there's absolutely no BT activity. I have checked Use Mock Locations. Nothing seems to happen. Any hints?

m509272 said:
I have a GPSlim236. On stock. It pairs but it seems there's absolutely no BT activity. I have checked Use Mock Locations. Nothing seems to happen. Any hints?
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Just to be clear I need to know the exact steps you are taking when trying to enable GPS. They should be:
1) Have Bluetooth GPS Provider loaded.
2) Have Allow Mock Locations and GPS Satellites enabled.
3) Pair the bluetooth GPS.
4) In Bluetooth GPS Provider choose your GPS, and in its settings make sure the GPS type is set to SiRF III ( or whatever your actual GPS type is ).
5) Start Bluetooth GPS Provider ( I also enable Bluetooth switching in the app, but that is my preference since I am currently using no other bluetooth devices ).
6) Use GPS applications.
Hopefully I haven't left anything out...
But as they say, it works for me.

I think step 2 is where the problem lies. I enable mock locations under the developer options. Where is enable GPS satellites? It is usually under Location but I only have Wi-Fi and Use Google...
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Just to be clear I need to know the exact steps you are taking when trying to enable GPS. They should be:
1) Have Bluetooth GPS Provider loaded.
2) Have Allow Mock Locations and GPS Satellites enabled.
3) Pair the bluetooth GPS.
4) In Bluetooth GPS Provider choose your GPS, and in its settings make sure the GPS type is set to SiRF III ( or whatever your actual GPS type is ).
5) Start Bluetooth GPS Provider ( I also enable Bluetooth switching in the app, but that is my preference since I am currently using no other bluetooth devices ).
6) Use GPS applications.
Hopefully I haven't left anything out...
But as they say, it works for me.
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GPS on stock
m509272 said:
I think step 2 is where the problem lies. I enable mock locations under the developer options. Where is enable GPS satellites? It is usually under Location but I only have Wi-Fi and Use Google...
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I am so sorry, I had brainfreeze. On stock you need to do the:
Extras - includes enabling Unknown Sources - (rev3 - 5/6/2013)
From the | [CWM/ROOT/EXTRAS] HD/HDplus Stock Root and other Mods - via CWM flashable zips | thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613
to enable GPS permissions, and as a bonus sideloading of apks and userinit. I did this mod on my stock with no adverse effects. Of course, mileage may vary, so don't forget to do a backup if you do this as well.

This is where the problem lies. I have tried flashing that twice. looks like it flashes ok on CWM but GPS Satellite option never appears. Do I need to root first?
That thread seems to indicate you do not need to root but perhaps in this case it is incorrect
"All of the zips below can be installed and work without the Universal Root if you don't want to be rooted. Just copy any additional zips to the SD while it is inserted in the PC, remove from the PC, insert into the Nook again and boot to the CWM and install per the previous paragraph".
Thanks for your help so far!
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I am so sorry, I had brainfreeze. On stock you need to do the:
Extras - includes enabling Unknown Sources - (rev3 - 5/6/2013)
From the | [CWM/ROOT/EXTRAS] HD/HDplus Stock Root and other Mods - via CWM flashable zips | thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613
to enable GPS permissions, and as a bonus sideloading of apks and userinit. I did this mod on my stock with no adverse effects. Of course, mileage may vary, so don't forget to do a backup if you do this as well.
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m509272 said:
This is where the problem lies. I have tried flashing that twice. looks like it flashes ok on CWM but GPS Satellite option never appears. Do I need to root first?
That thread seems to indicate you do not need to root but perhaps in this case it is incorrect
"All of the zips below can be installed and work without the Universal Root if you don't want to be rooted. Just copy any additional zips to the SD while it is inserted in the PC, remove from the PC, insert into the Nook again and boot to the CWM and install per the previous paragraph".
Thanks for your help so far!
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Thanks for putting up with my brainfreeze.
Okay, revised steps, since you already loaded the 'Extras' and enabled 'Mock Locations'.
1) Pair Bluetooth GPS.
2) In Bluetooth GPS Provider choose your GPS receiver, and then press 'START'.
3) In Bluetooth GPS Provider 'Preferences' set GPS Type to SiRF ( if that is your type ).
4) Use GPS apps.
Everything else is just and illusion...

RageAgain said:
As of the last update of this app, it works on stock too. I had it working with my BT-359, but I lost that on my vacation ( just this weekend )! I just purchased a replacement off of eBay. Sigh....
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I'm looking at acquiring the BT359 and have a few questions if anyone is still following this...
Is there any reason to chose Bluetooth GPS Provider over the Globalsat's GPSInfo app?
Am I assuming correctly that this can be pointed at G-Maps?
Have you heard of or used any navigational apps that work?
TIA!

Navigator
catseyenu said:
I'm looking at acquiring the BT359 and have a few questions if anyone is still following this...
Is there any reason to chose Bluetooth GPS Provider over the Globalsat's GPSInfo app?
Am I assuming correctly that this can be pointed at G-Maps?
Have you heard of or used any navigational apps that work?
TIA!
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I haven't tried GPSInfo yet, I need to look into that.
I use Bluetooth GPS Provider with MapFactor: GPS Navigation, which is my new favorite.
It works on an unrooted tablet ( my new one - a Hannspree SN14T71, I know, huge ) with no built in GPS support, as well as my Nook HD+, which is rooted and on CM11.

RageAgain said:
I haven't tried GPSInfo yet, I need to look into that.
I use Bluetooth GPS Provider with MapFactor: GPS Navigation, which is my new favorite.
It works on an unrooted tablet ( my new one - a Hannspree SN14T71, I know, huge ) with no built in GPS support, as well as my Nook HD+, which is rooted and on CM11.
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Much appreciated RageAgain.
After reading up a little more on these 2 apps I noticed Bluetooth GPS Provider has more downloads, better reviews, recent updates and is noted to work with Google maps.
The manufacturer's app, GPSInfo hasn't been updated since 2011...
May I ask how sensitive the BT359 is in regard to placement of the device in an auto?
Would I be able to hide in in the console or glove box & still acquire position?
Also, I see I can use this on my phone as well... how is the trade off on battery between using the Bluetooth radio and built in GPS on a phone?
Thanks again!

catseyenu said:
Much appreciated RageAgain.
After reading up a little more on these 2 apps I noticed Bluetooth GPS Provider has more downloads, better reviews, recent updates and is noted to work with Google maps.
The manufacturer's app, GPSInfo hasn't been updated since 2011...
May I ask how sensitive the BT359 is in regard to placement of the device in an auto?
Would I be able to hide in in the console or glove box & still acquire position?
Also, I see I can use this on my phone as well... how is the trade off on battery between using the Bluetooth radio and built in GPS on a phone?
Thanks again!
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As to sensitivity, I would say it is pretty good. You need line of sight, so you can't have metal in the way. I would say try it, as different vehicles have different specs as to metals and metallicized plastics.
Aside from running your own tests for power utilization per device, or looking up the chip specs, I would look for reviews for the particular device in question. I know this, I have Galaxy Players and the built in GPS is crap, so power consumption doesn't even come into the equation for those devices. On the other hand, I have an LG smartphone that I got cheap and even though I don't have phone service for it it works well as a stand alone device where GPS is concerned.
I mainly got my BT359s ( yes, I bought another to replace the one I couldn't find, and then my mom found it so I have two ) to use with tablets with no built in GPS.