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Request: Basic Android with just root and no other mods

Copied here, cos it was posted wrongly elsewhere.
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Hello all, sorry if this is a basic question, but wasnt able to find any results.
Over the past few days, I have been staying up late almost every single night and trying out different ROMs in this forum.
1. The Dude's ROM
This rom looks nice, but almost all applications crashed like nuts. Then I realised the developer has gone on a vacation, so cant really use this.
2. Cyan's ROM
Fast, but still uses SD for theapps. I have a class 2 sdhc, and that isnt fast enough and hence the apps are a bit slow to respond. Crashes are much much lesser than #1.
3. Hero's ROMs
Very well made, fantastic ROM, absolutely stunning UI but again dependency on the SDCARD is immense and is thus a limitation to me. Also I saw the actual HTC Hero has much higher ROM space (512mb compared to 288 of Dream/G1 and more ram 256 vs 198 of G1) and hence is much better suited to run the HTC's Rosie.
So now I think my needs would want me a basic android cupcake ROM without much fancy stuff. The bare minimum. Do we have such a ROM?
If we do, please let me know.
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Update : I am looking for a base android system with root. If possible maybe start building on something. I have experience tweaking kernels on a desktop , but has _never_ tried anything mobile.
I was suggested to use Haykuro's 6.0r1 , but it does use apps2sd and so does cyan's rom.
Well my idea is to find/create a ROM which would be light and fast and we could do some work optimizing the kernel for faster loads and quick runs.
Any suggestions, guides, materials on how to start would be greatly helpful.
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Goal : A quick to boot, fast ROM with low battery consumption.

The search button is your friend.
Visit JF's blog

Search for JF 1.51 =]
Here to save you some time:
http://andblogs.net/2009/05/jfv151-images-are-out/
JF tends to work on the stock roms, and just roots it, with very minor modifications. But super stable, fast, and works excellent.

Haykuro's ion rom
Use Haykuro's IOn Rom its fast stable and just your basic android goodness

avallark said:
I was suggested to use Haykuro's 6.0r1 , but it does use apps2sd and so does cyan's rom.
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Actually, most ROMs that make use of some form of A2SD (apps on SD cards) do so conditionally. Both Haykuro and cyanogen have ROMs that put the /system/app directory on the SD card only if the SD card has a prepared ext2/3 partition present at boot. What this means is that if you are using a regular SD card, or if you repartition your card as FAT32, then the ROM will not implement A2SD.
However, I am in agreement with you for the gist of the request. I would also like to see an optimized ROM based on AOSP (like cyanogen or TheDude), but one that implements fewer customizations. Personally, I am currently using cyanogen's 3.9, which has great performance, and the fastest boot times I have had from any other ROM. It seems to run through the battery a little faster than others, but it is the best so far.

jf or cyanogen
even though u have an class 2 apps2sd would work good. i had a lame stock 1gig tmo gives with the fone and i had no problem with it. or jf as close to stock as possible

You do know that Apps2SD is not a requirement for CyanogenMod, right? If you have a single Fat32 partition on your card, Apps2SD is disabled and all apps will go to the phone's internal memory. Of course in this case you are limiting yourself to the amount of apps you can have installed at any given time due to the relatively small space left on the intmem after the OS is installed. Also, if you install too many apps your phone will start slowing down considerably because the apps basically eat up the available RAM.
Personally, half the reason for rooting my phone in the first place was running apps on SD card. My co-worker has yet to root his G1 and he constantly has to juggle apps and games so that he can have at least 10MB internal memory free, otherwise his phone starts slowing down to a crawl.

I'm working on an HTC ADP version of what you seek!
I've had two other people ask for this from me!
I create a "US specific" version for T-Mobile Users.
See thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456).
Would you be interested in a HTC ADP plain rooted (no features) version? I'm trying to gauge the need here ?

I'm tryin to finish a lite version of ion. I don't think I can strip anything else out without it breaking. The whole purpose behind the lite version will be to put what customizations you want on it. It a lot slimmer than a standard jf release.

soulife's ion - probably another good bet
Soulife's ION build (lite), (as it sounds), would also be a another good build for you likely!
He makes/ports good/stable ROM's.

pistol4413 said:
i had a lame stock 1gig tmo gives with the fone and i had no problem with it.
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Lol I still use this P.O.S. It's actually not too bad since I haven't experienced the greateness of a class 6 card. I'm happy with my G1 performance.

did you try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456
and I just rooted someone's phone with a stock 1gb no class card and it runs Cy3681 great. Compcache is the best.

where can i get the default g1 wallpapers? i realize how dumb that sounds but ive googled them, looked for them in the themes section, and searched through the files of the 25 or so builds i have downloaded from here...i am not smart.

I also wanted a stock rom with just root and without the piles of shi.... code that are being piled on top of the custom builds. I found two easy ways to it;
1. JF's roms. All he does is root it and release it. Unfortunately, for the cupcake builds, he got the awful idea of talking with crazy narcissist haykuro and actually implemented a2sd on 1.51 and 1.51r2. Getting rid of it is nastily simple, though. Just delete a2sd from /system/bin and you're done.
2. Get a dump of an official OTA rom, put the modified su binary in /system/bin, superuser.apk on /system/app, and pack it with a rooted boot.img, or if you can modify kernel (i don't know that much linux) root your own boot.img. Look through somebody else's update-scripts so you can make your own (I've found cyanogen's and JF's to be amongst the cleanest, easiest to read and figure out).
soulife, I'd love to see what you come up with. I have among my stash of experimental stuff a slimmed down ION r2 that only kept a few apps (Phone, contacts, browser, mms, cameras, and settings), but quickly felt that there really was no reason to slim it down so bare. With ION, there's still a lot of space left in system, even with a stock spl, and after an install it's never used again, so I felt I should be adding instead of removing apps than let that empty space go to waste, specially since there's really no replacement or improved app for the ones that were removed

I suggest you go out and buy a new micro sd card, preferably a class 4 or 6 micro sd card. Then you can really begin enjoying the capabilities of root.
4gb class 4 by adata for 12 bucks i believe on newegg.
8gb transcend class 6 for $19, also on newegg.

i just switched back to JF 1.51 with the hero theme 1.4.5. I think it might still have the a2sd script in it but it's optional, but boot time is MUCH faster than cyanogens current builds.
The stock ION and Rogers ROMs are good as well, but I do enjoy the hero theme on JF , although the Rogers dialer is a great thing to have.

jubeh said:
I also wanted a stock rom with just root and without the piles of shi.... code that are being piled on top of the custom builds.
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Wow...**** code. Who'd a thunk that people would be modifying stock ROMs on a developers forum. If you are going to debase a developers work, at least specify which developer. The way your statement reads, nothing but crap comes out of this forum.

Dwang's 1.7 rom

hey guys, i tried to post this in dwangs rom but it gets lost in the tread and not answered.
My phone has been running a bit slow lately, i want to switch to this "fast" rom.
I am currently on cyanogen's rom
My spl is 1.33.2005
My radio is 3.22.20.17
my phone is 32B, the important part is that my phone is EBI1
would I be able to flash his rom to my phone and would i need to wipe? does that mean that i need to reinstall all apps and songs and stuff?

I think you will need to load all apps again.
I am a bigtime noob, but I think I asked that question and I was told whenever you put a new rom on you have to load all the stuff again. I imagine if you have songs and apps on your sd card it is easier to install again. I want to know if having a larger or faster sd card helps it process faster? I mean, can the phone use the card as ram to help it process more,it is it more like a hard drive so just gives faster access to the programs loaded on the card?

yes it is possible to do that ram hack, search button it. Alot of ppl dont do it for a number of reasons including the 3d graphics arent as good after it. But does anyone know about the compatibility of my phone with the rom?

jeffrimerman said:
I am a bigtime noob, but I think I asked that question and I was told whenever you put a new rom on you have to load all the stuff again. I imagine if you have songs and apps on your sd card it is easier to install again. I want to know if having a larger or faster sd card helps it process faster? I mean, can the phone use the card as ram to help it process more,it is it more like a hard drive so just gives faster access to the programs loaded on the card?
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A Class 6 Card will make a small difference on your phone since you're running APPS2SD it'll be able to access information from your EXT partition faster than a Class 2/4 card.
There is Swapper (search in market)... Almost like a Page file for windows. You can also set the Swap file to be on your EXT partition so when you mount your sdcard it won't get corrupted, etc.

Has anyone done this.

Making the switch...

Im looking for some advice/input. Im going to start running android on my HTC touch (Bell). What is the best Android rom to use? Are there many issues?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712310
You will be happy you did...

Thanks for the response. Im actually looking at this now. I cant see any install instructions and not sure exactly what files to grab. Will it work with these steps:
Easiest Step-By-Step Android Tutorial for the Vogue (NAND Method/Internal Memory) thread?
Does it matter if I run it off the miniSD vs fully flashing my phone?

ChocBoyWonder said:
Thanks for the response. Im actually looking at this now. I cant see any install instructions and not sure exactly what files to grab. Will it work with these steps:
Easiest Step-By-Step Android Tutorial for the Vogue (NAND Method/Internal Memory) thread?
Does it matter if I run it off the miniSD vs fully flashing my phone?
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That is a great thread to start at, it's where I first learned.
I've found that Android runs smoother while being run from the phone, not the sd card.

Those instructions should work. I have not really used them since Myn's Donut (older ROM). I dont see why not the process should be the same. I ran off SD for a while during donut days, things were slower. Running off NAND now and its a really nice experience.

It must just be me, but I haven't been able to get camera working on any Android builds. I am thinking my Sd card gets unmounted or something. Camera app starts, I can see display, then Force Closes.
I am running off sd card, I even tried partitioning cards, seems as though one of the ext2 partitions goes bad or something. If I place card in computer, one of the partitions is always corrupt?
I have re-formatted and re-partitioned 3 different cards using Gparted, always same error after installing Android system to Sd and Data to SD in install menu.
I apologize if this isn't clear, trying to explain it as best I can

WoW!
I just finished the install. Now working with Google sync to get my contacts over. I love it already and havent even done much! I may eventually install on the phone. Are the steps any different? Is there a thread to get setup?
Thanks for all the responses.

Go with Incubus26Jc's Super Froyo build on NAND I've been using for a month now and its been awesome hardly any problems

[Q] Nook Color honeycomb

Does anyone know how to test if a bootable sdcard with nookie honeycomb actually works before you test it out on the nook color? thnx
btw i used the process that was on this site http://theunlockr.com/2011/02/07/how-to-load-honeycomb-android-3-0-on-the-nook-color-usd-method/

Not sure why you need to test it before putting it in the nook. If you're worried about doing any harm to the nook it's really not possible. Just put the card in and try to boot. If it doesn't boot take the card out and boot up normally, no harm no foul.

ryspy8492 said:
Not sure why you need to test it before putting it in the nook. If you're worried about doing any harm to the nook it's really not possible. Just put the card in and try to boot. If it doesn't boot take the card out and boot up normally, no harm no foul.
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I second this. By default, all the Main Roms for Nookie Froyo and Nookie Honeycomb have no features enabled that will touch your Nook Color. The only thing it touches on the NC is the Cache Partition in order to prevent too many writes to the SD and to also speed things up. Anything done there won't screw up your NC in a Million years and Switching back to Stock and doing a few things will wipe any evidence. Or if really paranoid you can Flash back to Factory to ensure all is wiped.
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thnx u guys, But i have another problem. i succesfully installed the honeycomb and got it to work on the nook color. But when I go to my computer with the sd card plugged in, it says that i only have 115 mb of data on the card. I have an 8 gb card. It's not left on the card, it says 115 mb out of 115 mb of data, even after i deleted everything. Anybody know how to restore it back to the 8 gb data amount thnxx

NookColor Format and partition your SD card back to a usable state

Opinion
Since the OP seems to have been answered, I'd like to piggy back a bit
Been doing some reading on the forums and I have started to vision myself getting in to the nook color honeycomb idea.
But a few questions first...
How well has it worked for anyone who has tried, is it a daily driver yet or too many issues? I have a SGS captivate so I am not too worried about having to mess with it before it works and I can use my phone to access email and all that.
But is it quick and snappy or will I feel like i'm using an underpowered device after using my phone.
And battery life, is it good, acceptable, or what?
Sorry if these have been answered somewhere else i tried to find the answers, but it's getting late and I have work yet to do tonight.

I installed it to emmc..over clocked it's still sluggish. Kinda cool but not a keeper to me.my droid x blows it away on performance. I will be back on phiremod beta 2 soon. Honeycomb is fun to tinker but not primetime. Remember it is not from aosp..missing features. It is amazing how good it isconsidering.

Well...its very promising for being in the early stages of development
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Will i still have honeycomb on my NC if i format it?
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jlt220 said:
Since the OP seems to have been answered, I'd like to piggy back a bit
Been doing some reading on the forums and I have started to vision myself getting in to the nook color honeycomb idea.
But a few questions first...
How well has it worked for anyone who has tried, is it a daily driver yet or too many issues? I have a SGS captivate so I am not too worried about having to mess with it before it works and I can use my phone to access email and all that.
But is it quick and snappy or will I feel like i'm using an underpowered device after using my phone.
And battery life, is it good, acceptable, or what?
Sorry if these have been answered somewhere else i tried to find the answers, but it's getting late and I have work yet to do tonight.
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i use honeycomb as a daily driver and if you install V2 on the emmc from samuallhaff(not 100% sure of his username off the top of my head) it runs smooth and it is really clean
i get the stock all day battery life(mainly it just sits in my bag when im in class but i have wifi always on so i dont disconnect from my schools wifi) and web browsing is amazing(it doesnt have flash though not a deal breaker though imo)
just dont use live wall papers and set CPU because they drain battery life faster and they diminish performance big time
bratliff said:
I installed it to emmc..over clocked it's still sluggish. Kinda cool but not a keeper to me.my droid x blows it away on performance. I will be back on phiremod beta 2 soon. Honeycomb is fun to tinker but not primetime. Remember it is not from aosp..missing features. It is amazing how good it isconsidering.
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if you have setCPU or a live wallpaper installed on honeycomb it diminishes performance by 100%
i noticed this performance boost after i uninstalled setCPU and removed my live wallpaper from my honeycomb install and so far it has been great

luigi90210 said:
i use honeycomb as a daily driver and if you install V2 on the emmc from samuallhaff(not 100% sure of his username off the top of my head) it runs smooth and it is really clean
i get the stock all day battery life(mainly it just sits in my bag when im in class but i have wifi always on so i dont disconnect from my schools wifi) and web browsing is amazing(it doesnt have flash though not a deal breaker though imo)
just dont use live wall papers and set CPU because they drain battery life faster and they diminish performance big time
if you have setCPU or a live wallpaper installed on honeycomb it diminishes performance by 100%
i noticed this performance boost after i uninstalled setCPU and removed my live wallpaper from my honeycomb install and so far it has been great
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I will remove set cpu and report back. I thought it was needed for oc.

tylrdoan said:
Will i still have honeycomb on my NC if i format it?
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I just realized that you are running HC from your SD card.
No, if you format that SD card, you lose HC. It actually mentions that in the procedure you linked in your original post.
The reason you only see 115MB on the card when you mount it on your Windows computer is because Windows can only see the first partition, the boot partition, that was written to that SD card as part of the procedure you followed. The rest of the space is taken up by partitions Windows can't see without help.
So if you want to continue to run HC off the SD card you have to dedicate that SD card just for running HC.

SD Card Partitions
while installing the image 3 patitions will be written on your sd-card.
1) root partition
2) honeycomb
3) fat32-partition
to use the full size of the sd-card use a partition manager to extend the fat32-partition.
installed apps can than transferred to the fat32-partition

fugitoid said:
I just realized that you are running HC from your SD card.
No, if you format that SD card, you lose HC. It actually mentions that in the procedure you linked in your original post.
The reason you only see 115MB on the card when you mount it on your Windows computer is because Windows can only see the first partition, the boot partition, that was written to that SD card as part of the procedure you followed. The rest of the space is taken up by partitions Windows can't see without help.
So if you want to continue to run HC off the SD card you have to dedicate that SD card just for running HC.
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i was wondering if i put honeycomb on my nook color, not on the sdcard, how would i do it. The instructions on that site only says how to make a bootable sd card. And i was using HC on a level 4 sd card and it said that u need a level 6. But i was still able to get it to run. The honeycomb on the sd card level 4 was pretty slow. i was wondering if i got it on my NC, would it be faster. If it would, can someone show me how?

Just follow the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=947071

bratliff said:
I will remove set cpu and report back. I thought it was needed for oc.
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Nope lots of lag still. Its ok not complaining. Lots of fc in dolphin too. Back to phiremod 2.2 for awhile.

You have to remember that the Honeycomb that was Ported is the Preview Release, think Demo version. It wasn't ported from (pretty much)scratch like Froyo was. It is more of a Rom hack. For a better performing version we have to wait for Honeycomb's Official Full release. In perspective, it's amazing how much deeper-blue got done with just the Preview image.
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GonzoTheNose said:
while installing the image 3 patitions will be written on your sd-card.
1) root partition
2) honeycomb
3) fat32-partition
to use the full size of the sd-card use a partition manager to extend the fat32-partition.
installed apps can than transferred to the fat32-partition
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Not picking on you but it's actually 4 partitions.
1=Boot (Basically redirects to the Android on the SD)
2=System (Holds the main OS files of Honeycomb)
3=Data (Where all you're settings and other data are)
4=SDcard (This partition is used as a stand in for a Physical External SDcard)
Also the easiest/simplest way to access the 2, 3, and 4 partitions is to use linux. Burn a LiveCD if you don't want to Install, although Ubuntu can be Installed without Partitioning or other such normal 2nd OS needs. Just get the Windows installer from http://ubuntu.com
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SD Card and Honeycomb 3.0 v4 image
I've been looking for an answer throughout the forums on this question but can't seem to find anything. The problem: I used the Honeycomb v4 image with WinImage. The SD card was originally 8 GB. The image file is 4 GB with approximately 600 MB or so of free space. Missing: 4 GB that was on the card.
1. Can I use a utility under Windows to get the free space allocated on the SD card that remains? If so, how?
2. Is there an option with WinImage to allocate the additional space on the SD card as free space and include it as part of the image that is being written to the SD card?
3. If I need to restore my SD card back to 8 GB, can that be done in Windows Explorer (not sure that Windows will pick up the full 8 GB as I haven't tried that yet).
Thanks.

Ohh, you have that problem. Don't know where you've been looking but that has been asked and answered many times. The problem is that when you install Froyo or Honey to the SD it makes 4 partitions like I listed above, but Windows can only see the First Partition and only Formats the First partition. The easiest way to fix is to put it in UnRooted Stock and Format it from Settings. If you don't have that you can Burn a Linux or GParted Live CD and Format it from their.
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[Q]Please help, G1 gets slow after installing some apps.

Hello there, I had a problem about my G1, I rooted it just last few weeks, after that I flashed a CM 6.1.0 but after I install some apps using Link2SD the phone is getting slow even after reboot. By rooting my G1 I really achieve what I want it is saving more internal storage by using Link2SD but another problem came, it is very slow that it is not usable, please help what should I do?. Or is there any other rom that is more stable and faster than CM 6.1.0?

From what I have heard, cm6 runs slow no matter what on the g1, from the fact that the g1 has a very modest chipset. i have been running cm4 on my g1 for some time, and have encountered almost no problems woth any slowdown.

I started using cm5, it is very slick, many times even faster than rc29! There is a detailed discussion that me and demkantor had that you can find here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2435085 that contains instructions on how to flash it. Hope this helps!

Yeah, Same here. I would definitely advise the CM5 for the Dream. I'm running the latest CM5.0.8 as of yesterday on my old Dream and it's just beautiful. Way faster than the Cupcake and Donut Roms. The apps2ext on it works beautifully and saves a lot of stress over the space for apps. The great thing is on the CM5 ROM you don't need any application to facilitate the saving of apps to the SD. It's inside the Rom already and works just perfectly. Just don't forget to partition the SD card first and best is to use ext4 partition, instead ext2. I've been talking to Demkantor as well and followed many advice from the same thread the Dreamwave here suggested. Mostly everything you'll need is there and if anything's unclear, feel free to write any of us.

Something that I personally found is that apps2ext doesn't always work out-of-the-box, what I did to counter that, and what I found works even better, is using something like link2sd, which allows someone to dynamically move their apps, so that launchers and other sensitive apps don't force close on boot because you accidentally removed the sd card/ sd card isn't reading properly.